It was amusing having this playing on my side monitor while doing my own run at the same time, and having some pretty bad luck with spell drops basically shoehorn me into running a janky Volley + Arcane Nova + Fuse + Snake mess of a build, that seemed insistent on trying to crash my game but got the job done (minus Producer, think he got to around 25% with an invincibility potion). Found out during that run that a single Mimicry Cube can clone Arcane Nova and lead to every single cast to fire like hundreds of smaller spells, which is pretty awesome for Poison. Thought it would be way too expensive, but between Volley, a single Energy Saving Mode and a wand reducing cost a little more, I was actually able to fire it non-stop at a decent rate for how many spells were flying, but had to actually swap things around because I was firing too many spells for the game to handle and couldn't dodge anything or aim with Track properly. Also saw the Savage Proliferation "curse" for the first time that run, which uh, giving me more enemies to kill is literally a buff when they all die instantly, so I specifically avoided removing that.
Don't know where the month of membership came from but thanks unknown entity. Just recently got into this game. Don't have a computer anymore to play but it's still pretty interesting to see the crazy things you can do
congrats on the gifted membership! I hope you enjoyed the video, it's a lot of fun to really get into a run and mess around with the minor min/maxing stuff
could have picked Treant Circle, 15 temp shield (combined with the permanent shield pr. room) is very good at ensuring you getting the secret rooms on bosses. Also one of the strongest aspects of the Reaper is that spells in your inventory get "crafted" (combined if you have 3 of a kind) automatically on enetring a room, this means you could have skipped the craft room at 16:45 (and have combined them at the start of the room you entered just before) thus giving you a coin room instead.. how much that would change though who knows.. also also, early in the run you skip a capacity stone, when you are doing a poison build the damage nerf for more room is likely worth it. @36:00 you could have put the capacity stone into the autocast portion to get more slots and fit the poison, also neither of the forced cooldowns do anything for autocast. That would have allowed you to build essencially the same wand as the one you where running but as an autocast.
dude I am embarrassed at how long it took me to remember reaper's second ability (the auto spell crafting), I think I am so used to disregarding capacity stone on my "main" wand that it just didnt cross my mind in the moment. even though poison disregards damage debuffs.
So, I think you are MAJORLY undervaluing the magic bullet+ and ++. The text reads that the enemy takes 50%/100% more damage. This is a multiplicative bonus since it calculates all your damage, then the enemy takes 50/100% more on top. That means if you'd upgraded your bullet to ++, you would have done SIGNIFICANTLY more damage. In fact, I try to have a + or ++ bullet as a support item in literally every build I make. It's that strong. And it doesn't need any supports other than maybe a speedup/time extension to help the range. Also, the buff lasts for 4 seconds so you don't need to be fast or accurate for it to work well as a support. Easy way to literally double the damage of any build with one socket and a common spell.
I think that is a very good point, might try that run again off recording and see what ++ would have done (assuming around 2 mil if the high point of that build says anything)
Honestly as long as you're playing with Track or a strong enough Automatic Navigate, you typically don't notice the +Scatter all that much. Though they really should change Over Scatter so that increasing its rank does NOT increase the +Scatter. And generally most things that increase Scatter should have lower values as they ruin a lot of things that could otherwise be useful. Or there should be another spell beyond Precise Shot that reduces Scatter. There's actually almost too much need right now for Track and/or Precise Shot in most builds.
ive noticed you always block Bings Arrow. Unless you are playing as Bing you dont need to as its exclusive to him. I've never seen it with anyone else even when running ban lists.
21:26 Don't understand why you have double energy saving when you could be using double slot magic vine, giving you enough mana regen to sustain AND keep your damage.
I guess when I'm usually doing a theorycraft build I am used to having very high mana costs, in hindsight the extra percentage decrease of cost with the second battery could have been better spent on the regen & mana, but I think there's merit in the like 30% decrease in cost PLUS the increase in mana regen from just one vine slot
From what i understand about poison, every application of it resets the timer, so you could get 1M dps with any build that has 1 poison and infinite cast. When i parse my dps for poison builds i use a timer to compare the changes i make. Please correct me if i'm wrong, i haven't been playing for 100 hours yet.
I am not entirely sure, my understanding is that the timer extends but it seems like it has an upward ceiling. that's just from all of the poison builds I've done in the past where it resets while I'm still applying
Penetration is actually not, it's a flat + bonus every time you add more.. I think? Looking back I for sure had the space to do that in the end, I guess I'm used to having less space
@@bwhatsonn It would not take up more space on the main wand with the radio spell putting it their. Well it depends on what you mean by multiplicative, I guess it is in between. The formula (using spell+ specifically) is (1+(5*split))(1+2*multi)(1+2*pen) You want to balance these three terms to maximize the number of hits, so while you may want a little more split than anything else, pen is as good as multi and does not affect mana. It is also worth mentioning that during testing it became clear that projectiles need to leave and reenter a target to hit it again, so you need to be aware of that when using a targeting spell and a lot of pen.
To make that formula clear. If you had 1 split+ and one multi+ and one pen+ that is (1+2*1) = 3 initial shots, that split into (5*1)(3)=15 shots (1+15 = 18 hits total). The pen then makes that (1+(5))(1+2)(1+2) = (1+5)(3)(3) = 54. So 3 shots * 6 splits * 3 pen = 54 hits
not taking the reroll key when the first flor took you 7 minutes (and you where clearly underpowered) was indeed a choice, (the cloack was bait, the crown was better, still being a little bit greedy with rerolls is not really that bad, you where really just unlucky, that is not the case when you dont use all the rerolls in shops, that is just missplay, idem when you dont reroll the spells you dont plan to take, ej the second middle boss, you did take the 2 rares, but didt reroll a normal+ and that was indeed a misplay) i dont want to just coment about misplays, but you keep ignoring volleys, when you deal damage with poison acumualtion, you just need to spam as many projectiles as posible. in the last act the epic magic upgrade may had ben better bettween the multicasts and you could easily had x3 your damage with 2 magic bullets and 1 volley Talking about reaper, me being the summon obsesed comenter, i think books may be a good choice for that class, as the books multiply your mana regen, 3 books multiply you mana regen to 1.5, and when you do book inception, (support book+support book) the last 9 books suppose a 4.5X mana regen multiplier, and that is ignoring indomability, with a good wand plus indomability and a support spell book+ you can easily multiply your fire speed like ten times, with ease. (as comparation the effect you get with books is comparable to the effect you did get with the wand that charged mp when standing still) the funniest part of the reaper is that the ceiling for damage is tied to what number of projectiles your pc can handle lol, other interesting thing is that you may keep an eye for the reaper (bleach) mask, it works really good with the 61487168million projectiles per second gameplay nice run!
yeah I spent a long time trying to find a viable way to make magic bullet damage alone work without using like duet or something, so poison was kind of my only chance
It was amusing having this playing on my side monitor while doing my own run at the same time, and having some pretty bad luck with spell drops basically shoehorn me into running a janky Volley + Arcane Nova + Fuse + Snake mess of a build, that seemed insistent on trying to crash my game but got the job done (minus Producer, think he got to around 25% with an invincibility potion).
Found out during that run that a single Mimicry Cube can clone Arcane Nova and lead to every single cast to fire like hundreds of smaller spells, which is pretty awesome for Poison. Thought it would be way too expensive, but between Volley, a single Energy Saving Mode and a wand reducing cost a little more, I was actually able to fire it non-stop at a decent rate for how many spells were flying, but had to actually swap things around because I was firing too many spells for the game to handle and couldn't dodge anything or aim with Track properly.
Also saw the Savage Proliferation "curse" for the first time that run, which uh, giving me more enemies to kill is literally a buff when they all die instantly, so I specifically avoided removing that.
Fun fact you can not poison the spider egg boss
that makes total sense but it still pissed me off lol, if they end up doing a boss update where we get more variety i’d love to see more immunities
@@bwhatsonn currently I'm not even sure if the frost crystal even works on most bosses nor the slime
i know for sure frost doesn't, i've never bothered trying slime on them
@@bwhatsonn I'm excited to see if they update the game more with anything or if we will just need to wait to have 2
Don't know where the month of membership came from but thanks unknown entity.
Just recently got into this game. Don't have a computer anymore to play but it's still pretty interesting to see the crazy things you can do
congrats on the gifted membership! I hope you enjoyed the video, it's a lot of fun to really get into a run and mess around with the minor min/maxing stuff
could have picked Treant Circle, 15 temp shield (combined with the permanent shield pr. room) is very good at ensuring you getting the secret rooms on bosses.
Also one of the strongest aspects of the Reaper is that spells in your inventory get "crafted" (combined if you have 3 of a kind) automatically on enetring a room, this means you could have skipped the craft room at 16:45 (and have combined them at the start of the room you entered just before) thus giving you a coin room instead.. how much that would change though who knows..
also also, early in the run you skip a capacity stone, when you are doing a poison build the damage nerf for more room is likely worth it.
@36:00 you could have put the capacity stone into the autocast portion to get more slots and fit the poison, also neither of the forced cooldowns do anything for autocast. That would have allowed you to build essencially the same wand as the one you where running but as an autocast.
dude I am embarrassed at how long it took me to remember reaper's second ability (the auto spell crafting), I think I am so used to disregarding capacity stone on my "main" wand that it just didnt cross my mind in the moment. even though poison disregards damage debuffs.
So, I think you are MAJORLY undervaluing the magic bullet+ and ++. The text reads that the enemy takes 50%/100% more damage. This is a multiplicative bonus since it calculates all your damage, then the enemy takes 50/100% more on top. That means if you'd upgraded your bullet to ++, you would have done SIGNIFICANTLY more damage.
In fact, I try to have a + or ++ bullet as a support item in literally every build I make. It's that strong. And it doesn't need any supports other than maybe a speedup/time extension to help the range. Also, the buff lasts for 4 seconds so you don't need to be fast or accurate for it to work well as a support. Easy way to literally double the damage of any build with one socket and a common spell.
I think that is a very good point, might try that run again off recording and see what ++ would have done (assuming around 2 mil if the high point of that build says anything)
When you put the over scatter all the way on the right of staff you only get the minus CD applied. Nice little cheese to get the CD to zero
that is such a dope tip, thank you! i’m surprised they don’t have more wand only effect items
😮 I'm never skipping overscatter again.
Honestly as long as you're playing with Track or a strong enough Automatic Navigate, you typically don't notice the +Scatter all that much. Though they really should change Over Scatter so that increasing its rank does NOT increase the +Scatter. And generally most things that increase Scatter should have lower values as they ruin a lot of things that could otherwise be useful. Or there should be another spell beyond Precise Shot that reduces Scatter. There's actually almost too much need right now for Track and/or Precise Shot in most builds.
I always take colorful cloak. It adds the extra that you dont have. Its a win always
ive noticed you always block Bings Arrow. Unless you are playing as Bing you dont need to as its exclusive to him. I've never seen it with anyone else even when running ban lists.
I appreciate the tip, thank you!
21:26 Don't understand why you have double energy saving when you could be using double slot magic vine, giving you enough mana regen to sustain AND keep your damage.
I guess when I'm usually doing a theorycraft build I am used to having very high mana costs, in hindsight the extra percentage decrease of cost with the second battery could have been better spent on the regen & mana, but I think there's merit in the like 30% decrease in cost PLUS the increase in mana regen from just one vine slot
From what i understand about poison, every application of it resets the timer, so you could get 1M dps with any build that has 1 poison and infinite cast. When i parse my dps for poison builds i use a timer to compare the changes i make. Please correct me if i'm wrong, i haven't been playing for 100 hours yet.
I am not entirely sure, my understanding is that the timer extends but it seems like it has an upward ceiling. that's just from all of the poison builds I've done in the past where it resets while I'm still applying
Penetration is multiplicative tho, right?.
You probably wanted to use the mimic cube on the magma cores to maximize damage
Penetration is actually not, it's a flat + bonus every time you add more.. I think? Looking back I for sure had the space to do that in the end, I guess I'm used to having less space
@@bwhatsonn It would not take up more space on the main wand with the radio spell putting it their.
Well it depends on what you mean by multiplicative, I guess it is in between.
The formula (using spell+ specifically) is (1+(5*split))(1+2*multi)(1+2*pen)
You want to balance these three terms to maximize the number of hits, so while you may want a little more split than anything else, pen is as good as multi and does not affect mana.
It is also worth mentioning that during testing it became clear that projectiles need to leave and reenter a target to hit it again, so you need to be aware of that when using a targeting spell and a lot of pen.
To make that formula clear. If you had 1 split+ and one multi+ and one pen+ that is (1+2*1) = 3 initial shots, that split into (5*1)(3)=15 shots (1+15 = 18 hits total). The pen then makes that (1+(5))(1+2)(1+2) = (1+5)(3)(3) = 54. So 3 shots * 6 splits * 3 pen = 54 hits
I'd love to see you do a similar video for High Pressure Stream. Not that I want you to suffer, but it seems like a terrible spell.
i was thinking of trying it with fall and some multi shots, some sort of evil pee ray
not taking the reroll key when the first flor took you 7 minutes (and you where clearly underpowered) was indeed a choice, (the cloack was bait, the crown was better, still being a little bit greedy with rerolls is not really that bad, you where really just unlucky, that is not the case when you dont use all the rerolls in shops, that is just missplay, idem when you dont reroll the spells you dont plan to take, ej the second middle boss, you did take the 2 rares, but didt reroll a normal+ and that was indeed a misplay) i dont want to just coment about misplays, but you keep ignoring volleys, when you deal damage with poison acumualtion, you just need to spam as many projectiles as posible.
in the last act the epic magic upgrade may had ben better bettween the multicasts and you could easily had x3 your damage with 2 magic bullets and 1 volley
Talking about reaper, me being the summon obsesed comenter, i think books may be a good choice for that class, as the books multiply your mana regen, 3 books multiply you mana regen to 1.5, and when you do book inception, (support book+support book) the last 9 books suppose a 4.5X mana regen multiplier, and that is ignoring indomability, with a good wand plus indomability and a support spell book+ you can easily multiply your fire speed like ten times, with ease. (as comparation the effect you get with books is comparable to the effect you did get with the wand that charged mp when standing still)
the funniest part of the reaper is that the ceiling for damage is tied to what number of projectiles your pc can handle lol, other interesting thing is that you may keep an eye for the reaper (bleach) mask, it works really good with the 61487168million projectiles per second gameplay
nice run!
I wanna play more with reaper, from what I can see on the reddit etc reaper is basically the best dps if you do it right
I don't think it was bait, it nerfing your poison is bait enough for me
yeah I spent a long time trying to find a viable way to make magic bullet damage alone work without using like duet or something, so poison was kind of my only chance