WW2 PANTHERS VS MODERN GERMANY TANK - How Well Can Modern Germany Do Against its Past? - WAR THUNDER

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  • @nathanthorjusen5485
    @nathanthorjusen5485 2 роки тому +535

    man I was hoping the german tanks would win

  • @lurtzy_
    @lurtzy_ 2 роки тому +240

    5 Leopard’s was way overkill, 2 or 3 would’ve been acceptable!

    • @ThunderWithMuffin
      @ThunderWithMuffin  2 роки тому +56

      Yeah, I agree. Hindsight I should have done 2-3 for round 2.

    • @kaffeetasse1238
      @kaffeetasse1238 2 роки тому +5

      I actually think the map played a huge role for the leopards win

    • @marblestudiosinc
      @marblestudiosinc 2 роки тому +1

      @@kaffeetasse1238 I actually agree, they should have used a flatter map

    • @skyeye4175
      @skyeye4175 2 роки тому +1

      @@kaffeetasse1238 You right, that terrain was too much accidentated

  • @ryan-rz1wi
    @ryan-rz1wi 2 роки тому +34

    In the city is way more interesting then the snipe battles

  • @jasonli2474
    @jasonli2474 2 роки тому +14

    Challenger (1980s) vs Challenger (1943) would be nifty to see next

    • @Green-ader
      @Green-ader 2 роки тому +2

      Or a challenger 1970

  • @VunderGuy
    @VunderGuy 2 роки тому +20

    Now this the kind of quality content I subscribed to the channel for. Good work and keep it up!

  • @NotTheBomb
    @NotTheBomb 2 роки тому +13

    By far one of your best modern vs WW2 era fights. Much better then those snipefests! I would almost recommend re-vamping the old ones and have them ‘retried’ as this!

  • @xela6349
    @xela6349 2 роки тому +5

    Spookston in a Leopard 2A6 vs. 20 Panthers would be a match I'd pay to see, lol.

  • @ericmarsha2103
    @ericmarsha2103 2 роки тому +33

    To many variables in the city, you can be flank in any direction.. idk if it's the best way for the final round, still loved though!! Great effort guys

    • @conscientiam_sui7385
      @conscientiam_sui7385 2 роки тому +3

      I kept fucking telling em not to go into the town. The only reason we settled on Sweden was because there were more Leopards and could feasibly push the Panthers back with proper coordination.

    • @xAlexTobiasxB
      @xAlexTobiasxB Рік тому

      That's why the city is the best map for for this scenario. Anything else would just be a sniper fest overkill for Leo's

    • @ericmarsha2103
      @ericmarsha2103 Рік тому

      @@xAlexTobiasxB fair enough, I didn't really think of that.

  • @za5814
    @za5814 2 роки тому +18

    Great video still waiting on T90 /T80 bvm vs T34s 😉

    • @ThunderWithMuffin
      @ThunderWithMuffin  2 роки тому +8

      Just did an event with T-90 vs 1945 Germany coming soon and T80 to come against T-34’s:)

    • @za5814
      @za5814 2 роки тому +2

      @@ThunderWithMuffin 🙌🏻

    • @Notjoker123
      @Notjoker123 2 роки тому +2

      @@ThunderWithMuffin T-80's vs T-80's if you know what i mean

  • @mist979
    @mist979 2 роки тому +6

    Amazing video and I am waiting for King tiger vs IS 7

    • @R0gueM
      @R0gueM 2 роки тому

      If that happens, there will be a small amount of 7s. Things cost a fortune to get at this point if you don't have it.

  • @GWMsharpshot21
    @GWMsharpshot21 2 роки тому +12

    I would of loved this if i joined would a panther 2 be able to join 😂

  • @su-30flanker6
    @su-30flanker6 2 роки тому +3

    Love how there’s just a puma in round 2

  • @thomasvanderkooy6782
    @thomasvanderkooy6782 2 роки тому +6

    I’d love to see more vids like the Tiger H1 vs Panther D but bonus round is 30vs30, or at least a lot more than 5vs5. I think it would be fun to see vehicles similar in performance battling it out in larger numbers

    • @ThunderWithMuffin
      @ThunderWithMuffin  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah it’s been a while since I’ve done one of those, might have to put one on the upcoming to do list:)

    • @megoaat
      @megoaat 2 роки тому

      panthers will defo win

  • @marcelthevirginian1656
    @marcelthevirginian1656 Рік тому +2

    Round 2 was rough for the Panthers. That Jagdpanther was a hero for at least getting one kill in.

  • @theholyromanemperor6275
    @theholyromanemperor6275 2 роки тому +3

    what would be cool is how many WW2 tanks (like all of them) would do against the all-mighty, Stalin-blessed, Moon Rover, the Object 279, some say that it's impervious to all types of APCBC shell

  • @ryuhanja3415
    @ryuhanja3415 Рік тому +1

    I mean the best way to do this would have the panthers holding corners with their engines off holding a cross fire to catch the leo as he peaks one dies the other takes him out. Or they do an engine peak where one drives out with his engine first taking a shot which doesn’t instantly wipe him then the other drives out as he reloads and goes foe the barrel

  • @alluringming
    @alluringming Рік тому +1

    Love to see a video featuring leopard 1' and leopard 2 going up against panthers, king tiger, tiger 1, panzer 3s & 4s

  • @bahadirmukan
    @bahadirmukan 9 місяців тому +1

    10.5 KwK King tigers vs Leopard tanks pls!

  • @wolfmelon5056
    @wolfmelon5056 2 роки тому +3

    Oh? This is the kind of cat fight that I wanna to see!

  • @ISrWolfI
    @ISrWolfI 2 роки тому +2

    2:11 poor dude tried side scraping against DM53

  • @FrenchRaiding101
    @FrenchRaiding101 2 роки тому +1

    I felt like I heard Trepang 2 music in the intro
    Edit: Rewatched the intro and can confirm it is Trepang 2 ost

  • @Longshot-nm2mx
    @Longshot-nm2mx 2 роки тому +3

    I love these vids keeps them coming

  • @stijndekocker4029
    @stijndekocker4029 Рік тому +1

    very good job keep gewoing

  • @nineonine9082
    @nineonine9082 2 роки тому +1

    Modern guns are so scary, normally if I am fighting big guns I use my engine to act a unstoppable wall, but they just go right through it, mobility and firepower is the key to beating them, a good reason why we don't have heavy tanks these days, nothing is gonna be enough.

  • @julianescalona1491
    @julianescalona1491 2 роки тому +2

    Wow man I remember watching your WOTB Videos and I remember I helped with one of the movies! Glad to see the channel has grown and it’s cool to see you changed over to warthunder, who knows maybe I’ll join one of your events on warthunder just as I did on WOTB happy for you! Keep up the content

    • @julianescalona1491
      @julianescalona1491 2 роки тому

      Haha I found my comment it was on your full length movies on WOTB it was part 2 and then a 20 minute snippet, but I’m pretty sure there are a few other comments 🎉

    • @julianescalona1491
      @julianescalona1491 2 роки тому

      Just watched the video where you said goodbye to WOTB, sorry about the iPad lol

    • @ThunderWithMuffin
      @ThunderWithMuffin  2 роки тому

      Good to hear from you again and hope you can join more:)

  • @merafirewing6591
    @merafirewing6591 Рік тому +1

    Here's one idea, L3 versus R3.

  • @nylanx5737
    @nylanx5737 2 роки тому +4

    The leopards would win every time if they didn't keep attacking side on...

  • @greatcanadianmoose3965
    @greatcanadianmoose3965 2 роки тому +1

    L3/33s vs R3s the battle of italian meme material!

  • @adamtruong1759
    @adamtruong1759 2 роки тому +1

    I would like to see the modern Leos in another video against WW2 tanks of any description.

  • @Old_dedylua
    @Old_dedylua 6 місяців тому

    music at the beginning of the Juggernaut & Company video from Trepang 2

  • @timistheman
    @timistheman 2 роки тому +2

    Just what I asked for

  • @splitzon_1144
    @splitzon_1144 2 роки тому +1

    Man I love these kinds of videos❤

  • @tsuaririndoku
    @tsuaririndoku 2 роки тому +1

    If Panther Kf51 into the game “Which might not even happen” We can do Panther vs Panthers

  • @novis_cz1gaming200
    @novis_cz1gaming200 2 роки тому +1

    the puma there just chilling....XD

    • @ThunderWithMuffin
      @ThunderWithMuffin  2 роки тому +2

      Lol playing their typical sneaky role

    • @novis_cz1gaming200
      @novis_cz1gaming200 2 роки тому +2

      @@ThunderWithMuffin and finally it isnt mbts camping and shooting with thermals
      i think you should do rematch with some challenges

    • @novis_cz1gaming200
      @novis_cz1gaming200 2 роки тому +3

      allways ready to kill some abramses with tiger :)

  • @Optimistic-
    @Optimistic- 2 роки тому +8

    one day i will be able to play with you guys

  • @dyerwulf5459
    @dyerwulf5459 2 роки тому +1

    Fine, take my like and subscribe. Better keep up this quality of content...

  • @Geniusinventor
    @Geniusinventor 2 роки тому +2

    Man, can I be in these videos? I am playing war thunder for 5 years. I think I am skilled sufficiently to help you.

    • @R0gueM
      @R0gueM 2 роки тому +2

      Gotta join the discord first. Link should be in the description.

    • @ThunderWithMuffin
      @ThunderWithMuffin  2 роки тому +4

      Of course!

    • @Geniusinventor
      @Geniusinventor 2 роки тому +2

      @@ThunderWithMuffin I have joined the discord 😁

  • @mizumiiz
    @mizumiiz 2 роки тому +2

    I want to play like JuliusMC, he is my idol

  • @johnnychavezz8566
    @johnnychavezz8566 Рік тому

    I’ve killed a Leo 2a6 with a ZIS-30 and it’s on my channel it was an insane shot through bushes but was pretty wild with those meme shots

  • @megabuilder3981
    @megabuilder3981 2 роки тому +1

    I like these type of vids :)

  • @mr.infernal1380
    @mr.infernal1380 2 роки тому

    You could call "round chaos" "all out" instead.
    Just a subtle suggestion yknow.

  • @thealpaca8hay
    @thealpaca8hay 2 роки тому +4

    Is it possible to do a situation inspired by the gulf war, maybe using tanks such as the type 69, Challeger 2’s and abrams?

  • @IronBridge1781
    @IronBridge1781 2 роки тому +1

    I’m not sure if I’m supposed to shout “Germany suffers” or “Germany is overpowered”?

  • @alistairevans8204
    @alistairevans8204 2 роки тому

    This channel is like the monster trucks of tanks. I love it!!! (Can't stand monster trucks though).

  • @frightrider07
    @frightrider07 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting idea could be modern t 80 vs ww2 t 80

  • @thatoneguy880
    @thatoneguy880 2 роки тому +1

    Challenger 2 vs ww2 British tanks

  • @blakedriver8623
    @blakedriver8623 Рік тому

    Best thing the Panthers should’ve done was wait in ambush somewhere 2 or 3 to a group

  • @mrumandas
    @mrumandas 2 роки тому

    The counter at the top is very nice 😂

  • @DarthCluster
    @DarthCluster 2 роки тому +2

    Round 3 was easily winnable by the leopards, they just played bad

  • @huaquansphere5512
    @huaquansphere5512 2 роки тому +1

    Nice, try with every nation i would like this but with swedish tanks bc im a sweden main. But overall very nice

  • @tsgp2747
    @tsgp2747 Рік тому

    your voice reminds me of that history channel

  • @cone17_
    @cone17_ 2 роки тому

    That one Witmans rampage be like

  • @theboysgaming3685
    @theboysgaming3685 2 роки тому +4

    hey thanks for making the idea a reality love it keep up the good work.
    from lazy ugly turtle

  • @Opa_Joke
    @Opa_Joke 2 роки тому

    best solution is to disable the gun and then tracks. Then move and look for weakspots. It may only take 2 tanks if one can sacrifice

  • @johnwanderin3872
    @johnwanderin3872 2 роки тому

    The Leopard players have never heard of mutual protection I guess. Don’t spread out, use each other to cover blind spots.

  • @kieranfitzgerald2030
    @kieranfitzgerald2030 13 днів тому

    There should have been a rule where the modern tanks can't use thermal/infrared optics.

  • @crad5476
    @crad5476 2 роки тому +2

    Tiger 1s VS shermans?

  • @villager8648
    @villager8648 Рік тому

    Custom battles against a friend, I one shot his Leopard using a PZ IV H because I hit the ammo rack

  • @tenta5573
    @tenta5573 2 роки тому +2

    do black night vs w2 tanks please

  • @insomniacbritgaming1632
    @insomniacbritgaming1632 2 роки тому +4

    the problem the Panthers had in round 2, they just went free for all, vs working as a team, I'm also sensing some level of aim assist because these leopards are spot on every shot, even after "spotting" an enemy as soon as they come out of a corner.

    • @thek.g.b301
      @thek.g.b301 2 роки тому

      The only aim assist thats actually implemented is when using a controller, but I dont think any of the leopards used one. Other than that idk

  • @rudatkatzn9171
    @rudatkatzn9171 2 роки тому

    From m private Match experience I can Tell you: Even really good Players cant Take a 7,5cm Shell into their Side well

  • @allenliu8820
    @allenliu8820 2 роки тому +1

    Not gonna lie I would had chose a map like Maginot line so I could use the full advantages of the leopard 2

  • @kayotik4408
    @kayotik4408 2 роки тому

    It's not panthers, it's panzer, and also this is pretty cool.

  • @РусланЗайцев-ж6х
    @РусланЗайцев-ж6х 2 роки тому +1

    We are waiting T-90 Vs T-34!

  • @samreinhardt9728
    @samreinhardt9728 Рік тому

    Looks like panther players have little experience in urban fight. Non coordinated attacks. I destroyed several Abrams’s and T80 U’s with my Pz 2 H. Usually after one kill i get destroyed but sometimes i kill few of them in one battle. All depends on how experienced players are

  • @danielaramburo7648
    @danielaramburo7648 2 роки тому

    Plot twist: the leopard joins the Reich and helps Hitler.

  • @kielfinnegan143
    @kielfinnegan143 2 роки тому +1

    I hate this games visibility. I literally can barely see anything. In real life it wouldn’t be hard to see a massive tank but this game is full of surprises, like not being able to see a tank right in front of you

    • @RRAAZZAA
      @RRAAZZAA 2 роки тому

      It wouldn’t be hard to see a tank that large in real life? Yeah if you were outside the vehicle but tankers when operating with the hatches closed have little to no situational awareness

    • @kielfinnegan143
      @kielfinnegan143 2 роки тому

      @@RRAAZZAA right in front of them it would be easy. And yea it would be easy from far away too because how do you think they used to hit shots from 4000 meters and more in the world war? Being able to see through periscopes and the assistance of the commander

    • @RRAAZZAA
      @RRAAZZAA 2 роки тому

      @@kielfinnegan143 in there world wars there is no hard evidence that tankers were getting kills from 4000 meters, the longest tank kill was in the middle of a FLAT desert, in urban combat tankers can barley see what they’re doing, the periscopes don’t give them a large field of view and most of the time they already have information about enemy positions so they’re already looking in the direction of the enemy, the gunner and commander sights are also only good at identifying targets not actively searching for them by the sounds of it you know next to nothing about tank combat

    • @kielfinnegan143
      @kielfinnegan143 2 роки тому

      @@RRAAZZAA maybe no large amounts of evidence from 4000 meters but there has been recordings of plenty of long range shots being fired. The games visibility just isn’t realistic

    • @RRAAZZAA
      @RRAAZZAA 2 роки тому +2

      @@kielfinnegan143 just because something has the capability to shoot at long distances doesn’t mean it can get a kill, and of course the games visibly isn’t realistic because you don’t operate a tank from the third person

  • @metodijetrajanovski2852
    @metodijetrajanovski2852 2 роки тому +1

    the best thing in a man's life
    hi step bro

  • @fabio6170
    @fabio6170 2 роки тому

    I would not move and engage panthers with heatfs.
    The strategy would create a tank trap so with apfsds u can shoot trought dead panther kill the one alive without to sustain counter fire.

  • @LaCreatura23
    @LaCreatura23 2 роки тому

    *panthers vs modern tanks, who will win?*
    me when slightly angled tiger bounces apfsds

  • @efethecaptain6
    @efethecaptain6 2 роки тому

    Except the second match 5 vs 15 (1v3) it was all good, last one I expected Leos to win but, still great match.
    Imagine this on Ash River, I bet 2 can hold against 10-15 easily.

  • @peterlacey5187
    @peterlacey5187 2 роки тому

    you should do a type 10 video

  • @johnloewinbagano4796
    @johnloewinbagano4796 2 роки тому

    Challenge
    2s3M vs Type 75

  • @alexeylesnichi5618
    @alexeylesnichi5618 2 роки тому

    Seems unrealistic. I thought the German Leopard 2 tanks would one shot every Panther tank. And I didn't expect the Leopard 2's side armor to be so vulnerable.

  • @NguyenLyubyuStrana
    @NguyenLyubyuStrana 2 роки тому +1

    M22 still the scariest tank evar

  • @UnknownPerson-dr4jn
    @UnknownPerson-dr4jn 2 роки тому

    Well....... numbers speak more often no matter how old a tank is and when u use them properly. One vs ten is overkill as 4 is min to kill a tank no matter how advance it is and provided all ten do not drive like lemings. If all ten drive like lemings then uh oh...... if they take on all sides, it is winnable.

  • @ridleymain9234
    @ridleymain9234 2 роки тому

    You should do the a7 Corsair II vs the f4u Corsair

  • @farmersboy5609
    @farmersboy5609 2 роки тому

    Do Sherman's vs T-28 doom turtle and the T-95

  • @gombik_sk1185
    @gombik_sk1185 2 роки тому +2

    Can u do IS 2 vs Tiger 2

  • @didrik3631
    @didrik3631 2 роки тому +1

    how tf do i always miss the recordings man D:

  • @MsGoodguy123
    @MsGoodguy123 2 роки тому

    Pretty sure this might've already been suggested, but, modern russian mbts vs ww2 tanks
    edit: T-80BVM, cos trolly ERA package.

  • @CalebChoi-b1x
    @CalebChoi-b1x 4 місяці тому

    This is unfair to the Leos as in the vids you made with the Abrams tanks, you gave them a large open map where they could snipe the WW2 tanks trying to move closer.

  • @ytvladnoob24
    @ytvladnoob24 2 роки тому

    Honestly I don't think on a real battle the panters would have a chance

  • @asinner7418
    @asinner7418 2 роки тому +1

    Lmao, how about noobs in leopards vs pros in post ww1 / ww2 tanks

  • @matthewsayers5451
    @matthewsayers5451 2 роки тому

    You know tigers are also cats.

  • @ruffleswinner2212
    @ruffleswinner2212 Рік тому

    4:06 Hey it's Mickey Mouse!

  • @alaska6120
    @alaska6120 2 роки тому

    It will just take another 3 years I’ll get the 2A6 eventually

  • @lunafragment7202
    @lunafragment7202 2 роки тому

    M3 Bradley vs M3 Stuart
    Or
    Hummer vs Sherman

  • @shrekgameplay4516
    @shrekgameplay4516 Рік тому

    3:48 one more of Finnish players :D Suomi

  • @monke6915
    @monke6915 2 роки тому

    just askin buy u should try out the LAV-2 vs. BMP-2M

  • @allenliu8820
    @allenliu8820 2 роки тому

    Wished I could had joined but i got class

  • @maxmachac9756
    @maxmachac9756 2 роки тому

    What do you mean comeback on the 2nd fight? That was completely onesided from the start

    • @ThunderWithMuffin
      @ThunderWithMuffin  2 роки тому +2

      They won but hindsight I should have done maybe 3 or 4 leopards. With the sides being so weak I didn’t know what to expect but 5 was too many for the second round which is why we decreased the amount to 4 in round 3 and increased the Panther team to 18

  • @Nahuel_Luna
    @Nahuel_Luna 2 роки тому

    I don't understand how the panthers couldn't destroy cold war tanks from the side but from the 21st century

    • @Kwisss
      @Kwisss 2 роки тому +1

      Armor wise, the shave weight for not armoring sides as much.

    • @Nahuel_Luna
      @Nahuel_Luna 2 роки тому

      @@Kwisss So the concentration of the armor is in the front?

    • @thek.g.b301
      @thek.g.b301 2 роки тому +2

      @@Nahuel_Luna Yes, modern MBTs focus all the armor in the front where near impenetrable. Although some countries occasionally stick some reactive armor blocks on the sides for extra safety because why not

  • @LycoRiko-f9b
    @LycoRiko-f9b Рік тому

    Full ammo load 👀

  • @4Ward__
    @4Ward__ 2 роки тому

    Isnt it a bit unfair in the last round? like the leopards arent even the same type, and is that a Leopard 2k. isnt a Leopard 2K just a leopard 1 with spaced armor

  • @DarkDodger
    @DarkDodger 2 роки тому +1

    At 9:20 is that a Leopard with an Autocannon on top?

    • @7Heist7
      @7Heist7 2 роки тому

      Yes its called the Leopard 2k

  • @Snowlep337
    @Snowlep337 2 роки тому

    Leopard 2 vs panther 2

  • @BW022
    @BW022 Рік тому

    Any reason the Leopards don't deploy smoke and just kill the Panthers using thermal sights?

  • @warboy-ne8bf
    @warboy-ne8bf 2 роки тому

    Hello can someone tell me what thunder with muffin discord channel is named.

  • @eemelimattila7187
    @eemelimattila7187 2 роки тому

    Damn I thought the Panthers would do better