hello agian world, I'm Goem, the lesbian girl in this video. add the behind situation of the crew. :9 I was totally obsessed with the converstaion, so I was forgot camera was there. ( also the production team let us keep chatting freely ㅋㅋㅋ. ) most of the topic of converstaion was what we really want to asked to each other. at that time, I learned again that I can also be friends with a completely another person. that experience was not usual thing in korea. after filming, we really went to cafe for coffee.🤭 anyway, I touched by the comments that you guys send to me. It means a alot, and make me feel supported. thanks all!
You're awesome! I loved to hear you grown out of your own preconceived ideas and became more open with time, it's very important to show to people there's always time to evolve and be more open! I wish you happiness, stay safe!
Hello friends! I'm a transgender Yena in the video. This shoot was very interesting and fun. Sharing the experiences of individuals living as queers always gives me courage. Being aware that I'm not alone makes me stronger. Your presence that watched our conversation is also giving me a lot of strength. Thank you. I'll live a better life.
Hi world! I'm HEVIN ;) I don't want you to think and classify differently because you have a certain identity and a certain orientation. The world is created because everyone is different! Not only do you have "what kind of person do you hate" but you also have "not hate someone." Let's live with positive emotions rather than negative ones! thank you for watching!💙
thank you for your words, I've always admired the way you look at the world and I've felt very proud of you ever since you came out, I'm so excited for your new music and everything that will follow in your career!
that's the ones you notice are gay. most homosexual men who mostly associate with other men aren't so open about it because they fear the judgement of the other men
I'd heard that in South Korea there are dance clubs for gay men and ones for lesbians, so I had an idea that queer people over there are more divided than where I live, but this video made me understand it even more. It's crazy to see that LGBT people there don't really have an overall community, it's more like several smaller communities that end up excluding a lot of people. It seems that bi and trans people don't really belong anywhere that way! In my experience, queer people in general tend to flock together, and lots of queer guys become besties with queer girls. In my city, the bars and organizations that are for LGBT people are for all of us. I often go to an LGBT bar that is frequented by a really diverse crowd: all sorts of genders and orientations. It's so sad to hear Yena say trans people don't really have a sense of community in Korea... here lots of trans people are in LGBT spaces. I hope this sort of mentality, of solidarity and inclusion, becomes more spread out and common everywhere. We are stronger together.
When I was in Itaewon, I was looking for a trans-friendly bar but all I could see were MANY "Transgender Bars" in the one street but they were actually more like expensive host clubs. I went to a drag bar called "Trance" and had allot of fun and right next to it is a gay club (gay men) but yes it does seem to be really divided
you can see in the United States this is the focus politically right now, theres alot of effort from homophobes to try and split the overall LGBTQ+ community apart right now, lots of propoganda etc, theres so many gay men online ive interacted with who hate trans women and its extremely scary how misogynist they can still be sometimes
It's not like we hate each other, it's just like dance clubs are where people gather to flirt a lot. There are spaces, pubs and clubs where both can get along so well, but gays and lesbians don't share the exactly same taste for music and conversations to be together all the time.
I hope this too. To me it was shocking too, because in my friend groups and communitys every queer person can enter and stay. I think it is sad if the communitys gatekeep places from each other. We should all be together as queer humans
Listening to what Yena said about when people might regret gender-affirming surgery was really interesting. The data in the US and Europe suggest that only a really tiny percentage of people regret transitioning, and for most of them it's not because they think "I was wrong about my gender", but that they think "society was kinder to me when I was in the closet, and hiding my true self hurt less than the bad treatment I'm now getting". It would be interesting to know more about the situation I'm Korea. If Yena is right, I wonder whether more rigid, binary gender roles might lead more people to mistaking their gender identity, like she spoke about? It's super interesting, and I'm so glad she knows herself and doesn't regret anything 😊
Until just this month there were court guidelines in Korea that prevented people from changing their gender in legal documents unless they underwent sex reassignment surgery (and some other messed up criteria). So there may have been a lot of transgender people who had surgeries they did not want so that they can be the correct gender under law.
really sweet! and great for breaking down stereotypes even within the community!! as a bisexual i really loved the topic of the whole bis vs gays/lesbians i also would agree with some ppl in the comments to change the title to "Do we hate bisexuals?" instead of "reason why we hate bisexuals" - i know its really good for engagement it just sends the exact opposite message of the video
Ive met straights and lesbians that didnt want to date me and it was offensive mainly because they painted me hypersexual. 😂 im 30 and only slept with 5 people. INCLUDING my husband. I am fiercely loyal and i pride myself on it because not too many people are GENUINELY loyal. Its a rare characteristic trait
I love Changyu, I'm glad to see him on another episode! Also these are things I've also discussed with my friends and people in the community. Thanks for sharing your stories, you're all lovely!!🌟
I really appreciate this discussion from a bi perspective. Like, the world already discriminates so much against the queer community, and then when you're bi you're discriminated against again. It can be so frustrating to feel like you belong nowhere
pleaasee, post the longer version of these videos, I really enjoy them but they are always so short😭😭I'm sure they talked about a lot of interesting things
I hope we can have more videos in the future with diverse orientations, as someone in the a-spec (asexual +aromantic) and nonbinary communities, I'm very interested in the situation of not very known labels in other countries, and how other queer people react to this.
I was really excited about this video, because a gay friend of mine once said being Bisexual isn’t real, you just can't decide, he talked badly about a bisexual acquaintance (his close friend) ... i havn't outed myself to him that i was bisexual... hearing that was crazy ... i havent told him or any of my friends how i think and feel after that... because if he, someone who is part of the community saying that... the others would probably also think like that
Exactly you are sol right when we share about this they don't consider us in their community they think of us differently coz they think we are just confused!! I feel you 😢😢😢
Dear I suggest you stop talking to him and get new friends both within and outside the community 😇 many of us support bi people and you guys are a big and important part of the community .
People know the LG part but look down on the BTQIA part. (B)isexual, (T)ransgender, (Q)ueer, (I)ntersex, (A)sexual. We're all the same community and should support each other
In my opinion, infighting in the lgbt+ community never leads to anything good. We really should all be listening to each other more! As one community we are stronger and diversity is beautiful
i agree with the yellow shirt girls statement about trans who regret transitioning. im a gay boy and during high school i started to dress as a girl but now im in college and realized that i feel more comfortable in my identity as a guy, and turns out im just a guy who likes to wear makeup :D
바이의 편견은 바람필거같아서 싫어한다기보단 어짜피 바이의 끝은 이성애자의 삶인 것을 알기때문에 꺼려하는거지 않을까 싶네요.. 연애는 남녀구분없이 만나다가 결혼이 거의 엔딩이여셔 근데 그런 이유로 싫어하는건 그냥 게이와 레즈의 열등감과 부러움의 표출 아닐까 싶기도 합니다 사실 되게 연애를 가볍게 생각할거 같다고 생각하는 사람도 많을거구요
I related hard to Hevin as a fellow bisexual. People see the "bi" as you are always liking multiple people at once, and it's really frustrating having to explain that it's not really the case for most people. They wouldn't say the same about straight, gay, or lesbians, so why assume bi are any different? There are polyamorous people, but they can be of any gender and orientation.
There are definitely similarities with the way the community works in the US, but also some differences I think. Since the US is so large, it really depends on where you are. For example where I live, most queer people stick together because it's such a conservative area and there aren't many of us. In larger cities it can be more cliquey. But some of the stereotypes are everywhere (like lesbians only dating "gold star" lesbians).
전 아직까지 제 성적지향성에 대해서 확신하진 못하지만 동성애자, 양성애자, 무성애자 중에 하나라고 생각하는데 되게 다양한 성적지향을 가진 사람들이 한 테이블에서 서로 얘기하는걸 보니까 신기하고 좋네요. 제가 그쪽 커뮤를 해본건아닌데 저도 바이는 동성애자들 사이에서 좀 꺼려하는? 분위기가 있다고 지인에게 듣긴했어요.
8:26 중요한 얘기네요. 최근 페미니스트와 트랜스젠더 사이에 갈등이 심해지고 있는데, 결국 여성혐오의 피해자라는 것에 있어서 우리는 같은 편이라고 생각해요. 멜투펨의 경우에 여자로서 인정받고 싶은 욕구는 더 강한 여성혐오를 불러오기도 하니까요. (여기서 여성 혐오라 함은 여자를 미워한다는 게 아니라 사회적으로 용인된 여성성을 더 강화 시키는 데 일조하는 행위들을 말하는 거예요.) 서로서로 보듬었으면 좋겠어요.
Yes, it's sad that in this world the standards for what is feminine and what is a woman is decided by the patriarchy. What women believe about ourselves isn't even considered. Women who dress in a more masculine way, particularly lesbians, are also victims of intense misogyny for this reason; for not conforming to men's ideal of a woman. Sorry this is in English, I hope to learn Korean in the future.
Of course bisexual women often date men, there are far more straight and bisexual men than there are queer women. I always get depressed on dating apps because for every 100 guys who like my profile there's only 5-10 women who do. It makes it really difficult and frustrating because honestly, I would rather date women but men are so much easier to find.
I loved to hear from the same community, as a lesbian I enjoyed hearing everyone’s opinions about different things, things I’ve been also curious about.
Yena's talk around 8:30 is so important because even though it seems like she's only actually talking about veeeery specific transmen and transwomen (i don't know if the statistic for people regretting for that reason is particularly high), the issue she's addressing actually affects EVERYONE in society -- straight, gay, bi, asexual, transgender, whoever! These strong and strict gender roles push us to be insecure about our interests and force us to lie and say we like things we don't, just to be accepted by our community. But the truth is, men and women can be SO MUCH MORE than their stereotypes, and all the trans men and women and the nonbinary/genderless people out there are doing so much work to help us reclaim the ability to be who we are.
I begun the video thinking I’ll be disappointed by the homophobia they face, but instead left even more disappointed. I didn’t expect to see that the LGBTQ community itself is divided and they are still dealing with things like “do gays hate lesbians” and vice versa. Everything they described happens in western countries too, I don’t want to act like we are perfect or to minimize the suffering of ppl who experienced it, but over here, even in Greece, which for those who don’t know, isn’t the most liberal in Europe, if someone’s from the lgbt community tells you “yeah I hate that entire part of the lgbt community”, it’s pretty well accepted that that person is wrong and most ppl would call them out, or personally disassociate themselves from them. I feel like what the guy said abt a lot of his gay friends saying “they just don’t like women” is completely mysogonistic and stems from internalized misogyny. Don’t forget, gay ppl can be too. It’s really sad to see. And for the transgender lady, to see there’s no community to support her. To hear that some ppl get confused that they are trans bcz they just like things typically associated with the opposite gender is crazy to me, I haven’t heard anything similar over here. In general the conservative nature of Korea showed itself here, even inside the LGBTQ community. I guess it makes sense since they just started to form and gain voice in the public sphere and are still fighting for acceptance. I hope this gets better with the coming years 🤍
I'm glad they did this video, because LGBT+ people exist in every part of the world, but in some places sadly they're not acceptable in society so they hide or just don't say they're part of the community mostly for the prejudice. Good video.
so bisexuals all around the world go through the same experiences 😭, i see bi discourse all the time from other queer people saying we only like men or we play around with women but i hate cheaters and as a woman i have only dated a woman... it's sad but ig we have a terrible reputation
it's so silly when you actually think about it. people think a bi person is x2 sexually charged, but really they're just one regular person. a lesbian or a straight man can have 1 girlfriend and not cheat on every single pretty girl they meet, or a gay man or a straight woman can have 1 boyfriend and not cheat on every single handsome guy they meet, then a bi person can do the same thing. the undeserved jealousy and mistrust that bi people have to deal with despite doing nothing wrong is soooo stupid.
I really enjoyed this and felt really supported. It's great to see all those people share their experiences, as a queer person i feel very supported, belonged and happy in general! Thank you! And all of you, love yourselves no matter what! Again thank you and have a nice lives!
Being a bisexual i can say that most of us want to date Girls bcz we want to fut in norm society, but our heart and desires are mostly strong towards same sex ❤
I think that really varies from person to person. I'm bi and people usually think I'm a woman (I'm actually nonbinary), and at 31 years old I've only been with women and nonbinary people, never with a man. I'm attracted to some men, but can't imagine myself having a relationship with one (it could happen tho! just more unlikely than with women and nonbinary people)
GIGGLE please invite Fromis9 as guest next to interview Them and plus I wanna see Hevin and fromis9 together again it’s been awhile since I saw them together
Hello everyone. I'm a Gay as same as the man in this video, too. Well, I want to share to guys my emotions when I am a Gay bottom . You know, Gay really so difficult to find a true love, me too. The emotions the man had shared in this video honestly be my emotions now. Gay community have lots of people but find a true love and a husband in this community so difficult and you'll be FA forever. Send to everyone from Vietnam. 🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
The privilege they have that they absolutely refuse to acknowledge, how some of the worst homophobic hate crimes were committed by them (like the Pulse night club sh00ting for example), how they've greatly contributed to the modern day misogyny women face today (for instance, the incel movement created by a bisexual), how so many bisexuals just use lesbians for s3x or as an experiment then go back to their boyfriends, how no one can ever say anything critical about them without being labeled as "biphobic", how they're the reason gold star lesbians are hated, how they're the cause of the massive level lesbophobia that is SO normalised and so much more Bisexuals are far from "cool"
We are all under the same umbrella ☂️ For each one, gay, lesbian, bisexual the discussion is on a person sexual orientation whereas for trans people it’s gender dysphoria. Because trans people can still identify as heterosexual/homosexual or bisexual. ❤❤❤ so I feel as though sometime trans people find themselves as an outcast from the community because they identify as a heterosexual.
I think it is really interesting for me as a Germany to see how the community is in Korea. For me it was "shocking" how separate the communitys are, because for me and in the groups I am we are all different queer people together. Really interesting.
It seems that the stigma that bi = cheater is in many cultures. Sorry, we can't help who we are attracted to. Give us a chance... I really related to this.
imo, it is a difference if i say : i hate gays (as a lesbian) - - OR - - if i say - "i dislike men in general as a lesbian" (big big difference how i build a sentence and even if i say it loud, how it sounds) isnt it? so maybe it is sometimes a "tiny missunderstanding" build up there - between the ppl - when it comes to gays+lesbians(??) its just a thought, i had after hearing them talking... (bcos - even if no one must say it loud, and everyone should understand - that a gay person wont go for a girl in general + a lesbian person wont go for a man in general.) bcos that is somehow and anyway clear - isnt it? :) PS: love to see chankyu sweetie here involved again.. :)
Yo no soy de la comunidad LGBT pero si conozco a gente de dentro y leo a personas en rrss que también lo pertenecen ahí. Por lo menos lo que es la comunidad de habla hispana yo he visto que hay bastante bifobia. Primero porque parece que tienen que estar constantemente probando que realmente les gustan las personas de su mismo sexo saliendo con alguien y que no son heterosexuales. Es decir, que si eres una mujer bi tienes que haber salido con alguna mujer para tomar tu orientación sexual en serio. Aunque no lo he visto por parte de gays, por parte de lesbianas si que he leido mucho comentarios de tipo despectivo hacia mujeres bi. Como que las mujeres bi no son una buena opción para tener una relación porque siempre se van a acabar yendo con un hombre, o que están demasiado traumadas con hombres con los que han salido antes y van a ser tóxicas. O incluso que las mujeres bi solo usan a las lesbianas para experimentar y van a acabar sufriendo.
I'm straight and I already have a hard time understanding why people can't understand someone with a different sexual orientation, but hearing that it happens betwin those different communities is wild to me. The exemple of bisexual being cheaters, I don't get it, that doesn't mean they fall in love with every people they meet, no more than a straight, gay or anyone else. People need to see this kind of videos.
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hello agian world, I'm Goem, the lesbian girl in this video. add the behind situation of the crew. :9 I was totally obsessed with the converstaion, so I was forgot camera was there. ( also the production team let us keep chatting freely ㅋㅋㅋ. ) most of the topic of converstaion was what we really want to asked to each other. at that time, I learned again that I can also be friends with a completely another person. that experience was not usual thing in korea. after filming, we really went to cafe for coffee.🤭 anyway, I touched by the comments that you guys send to me. It means a alot, and make me feel supported. thanks all!
I just hope you stay happy no matter what you guys all the love to you ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
At the end of the day we are all just people. Some nice and some not regardless of ethnicity, gender or preferences.
❤❤❤❤🇧🇷
You're awesome! I loved to hear you grown out of your own preconceived ideas and became more open with time, it's very important to show to people there's always time to evolve and be more open! I wish you happiness, stay safe!
The lesbian is always the prettiest
Hello friends!
I'm a transgender Yena in the video.
This shoot was very interesting and fun.
Sharing the experiences of individuals living as queers always gives me courage.
Being aware that I'm not alone makes me stronger.
Your presence that watched our conversation is also giving me a lot of strength.
Thank you.
I'll live a better life.
Yena! Thank you so muuch for sharing your story! such an inspiring person you are. Much love🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
You're so cute and pretty ilysm!!! I hope you only have good times ahead of you
Aint no way youre 40 girl you look way younger😭
Girl u look amazing🥰
You seem really wise ^^
Hi world! I'm HEVIN ;)
I don't want you to think and classify differently because you have a certain identity and a certain orientation. The world is created because everyone is different!
Not only do you have "what kind of person do you hate" but you also have "not hate someone."
Let's live with positive emotions rather than negative ones! thank you for watching!💙
@ville__ sure brie
@ville__ only a gay person to know that, so... You just came out as gay.
@@princessm6832 you ate, I love you
@ville__did you consciously choose to be straight?
thank you for your words, I've always admired the way you look at the world and I've felt very proud of you ever since you came out, I'm so excited for your new music and everything that will follow in your career!
Yena is 40yrs old! She looks at least 10yrs younger 😯
If I look that good when I'm 40 I'll have to tip my endocrinologist 😆
@@za_wavbit If you do can you tip me his number too 😄
Asian don't raisin
@@za_wavbitlol right
I agree!
everytime Yena mentions her age, im so shocked. She looks atleast 10 years younger.
I thought she would've been in her mid 20s at MOST!!
@ville__ no?
@ville__ only a gay person to know that, so... You just came out as gay.
@ville__ only a gay person to know that, so... You just came out as gay.
@ville__ you are disgusting
Yena and Hevin were so cute in this!! They literally felt like a mother and her daughter, it was so sweet to watch!
it's crazyyyy because here in america most gay guy's best friends are women so it's very interesting to see the korean lgbt community think like this
Also the same here in Germany! All gays or lesbians have most of their friends of the opposite gender
that's the ones you notice are gay. most homosexual men who mostly associate with other men aren't so open about it because they fear the judgement of the other men
I'd heard that in South Korea there are dance clubs for gay men and ones for lesbians, so I had an idea that queer people over there are more divided than where I live, but this video made me understand it even more. It's crazy to see that LGBT people there don't really have an overall community, it's more like several smaller communities that end up excluding a lot of people. It seems that bi and trans people don't really belong anywhere that way! In my experience, queer people in general tend to flock together, and lots of queer guys become besties with queer girls. In my city, the bars and organizations that are for LGBT people are for all of us. I often go to an LGBT bar that is frequented by a really diverse crowd: all sorts of genders and orientations. It's so sad to hear Yena say trans people don't really have a sense of community in Korea... here lots of trans people are in LGBT spaces. I hope this sort of mentality, of solidarity and inclusion, becomes more spread out and common everywhere. We are stronger together.
When I was in Itaewon, I was looking for a trans-friendly bar but all I could see were MANY "Transgender Bars" in the one street but they were actually more like expensive host clubs. I went to a drag bar called "Trance" and had allot of fun and right next to it is a gay club (gay men) but yes it does seem to be really divided
you can see in the United States this is the focus politically right now, theres alot of effort from homophobes to try and split the overall LGBTQ+ community apart right now, lots of propoganda etc, theres so many gay men online ive interacted with who hate trans women and its extremely scary how misogynist they can still be sometimes
It's not like we hate each other, it's just like dance clubs are where people gather to flirt a lot. There are spaces, pubs and clubs where both can get along so well, but gays and lesbians don't share the exactly same taste for music and conversations to be together all the time.
I hope this too. To me it was shocking too, because in my friend groups and communitys every queer person can enter and stay. I think it is sad if the communitys gatekeep places from each other. We should all be together as queer humans
Listening to what Yena said about when people might regret gender-affirming surgery was really interesting. The data in the US and Europe suggest that only a really tiny percentage of people regret transitioning, and for most of them it's not because they think "I was wrong about my gender", but that they think "society was kinder to me when I was in the closet, and hiding my true self hurt less than the bad treatment I'm now getting".
It would be interesting to know more about the situation I'm Korea. If Yena is right, I wonder whether more rigid, binary gender roles might lead more people to mistaking their gender identity, like she spoke about? It's super interesting, and I'm so glad she knows herself and doesn't regret anything 😊
Until just this month there were court guidelines in Korea that prevented people from changing their gender in legal documents unless they underwent sex reassignment surgery (and some other messed up criteria). So there may have been a lot of transgender people who had surgeries they did not want so that they can be the correct gender under law.
As a bisexual myself this conversation was very relatable
You still have straight privilege so just stop complaining
@ville__ wow we got lots of options with us isn't that what you meant to say.? 🤡
@@bekcha4170 we be stucked in the middle of nowhere 😂
@ville__ only a gay person to know that, so... You just came out as gay.
@ville__ only a gay person to know that, so... You just came out as gay.
As a FTM transgender, hearing Chan Gyu saying he has respect for trans people because of their courage made me happy
really sweet! and great for breaking down stereotypes even within the community!!
as a bisexual i really loved the topic of the whole bis vs gays/lesbians
i also would agree with some ppl in the comments to change the title to "Do we hate bisexuals?" instead of "reason why we hate bisexuals" - i know its really good for engagement it just sends the exact opposite message of the video
Ive met straights and lesbians that didnt want to date me and it was offensive mainly because they painted me hypersexual. 😂 im 30 and only slept with 5 people. INCLUDING my husband. I am fiercely loyal and i pride myself on it because not too many people are GENUINELY loyal. Its a rare characteristic trait
@ville__ only a gay person to know that, so... You just came out as gay.
@ville__ only a gay person to know that, so... You just came out as gay.
@ville__ only a gay person to know that, so... You just came out as gay.
@ville__ you are disgusting
I love Changyu, I'm glad to see him on another episode! Also these are things I've also discussed with my friends and people in the community. Thanks for sharing your stories, you're all lovely!!🌟
I love him too💜✨
@@cuteengene5176 Me too 💙
I really appreciate this discussion from a bi perspective. Like, the world already discriminates so much against the queer community, and then when you're bi you're discriminated against again. It can be so frustrating to feel like you belong nowhere
Don't feel like that, you can be whatever and whoever you want! 🥰
Just IMO, at the end of the day we are all just people. Some are nice and some are not regardless of ethnicity, gender or preferences.
pleaasee, post the longer version of these videos, I really enjoy them but they are always so short😭😭I'm sure they talked about a lot of interesting things
Frr I was rlly into their conversations and want to hear more😭
I hope we can have more videos in the future with diverse orientations, as someone in the a-spec (asexual +aromantic) and nonbinary communities, I'm very interested in the situation of not very known labels in other countries, and how other queer people react to this.
Thank you! I'm acespec and nonbinary too and I'd love to see what it's like for people like us in Korea
would love it if they could fine people that are aroace, aroallo, and alloace!
@@strawberrysolar9086 Do you mean "find" instead of "fine"? Your comment scared me until I realized it's very likely to be a typo 😅
@@aroacecreature omg yeah sorry i do mean 'find' 😭
@@strawberrysolar9086 it's okay! 😁
I was really excited about this video, because a gay friend of mine once said being Bisexual isn’t real, you just can't decide, he talked badly about a bisexual acquaintance (his close friend) ... i havn't outed myself to him that i was bisexual... hearing that was crazy ... i havent told him or any of my friends how i think and feel after that... because if he, someone who is part of the community saying that... the others would probably also think like that
Exactly you are sol right when we share about this they don't consider us in their community they think of us differently coz they think we are just confused!! I feel you 😢😢😢
Dear I suggest you stop talking to him and get new friends both within and outside the community 😇 many of us support bi people and you guys are a big and important part of the community .
Being bi is super normal, you don't have to feel pressed to choose, don't let people say what you have to do or should be! 🥰
People know the LG part but look down on the BTQIA part. (B)isexual, (T)ransgender, (Q)ueer, (I)ntersex, (A)sexual. We're all the same community and should support each other
In my opinion, infighting in the lgbt+ community never leads to anything good. We really should all be listening to each other more! As one community we are stronger and diversity is beautiful
I don’t understand why intersex is even included in the acronym, it doesn’t have anything to do with sexuality or gender identity
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@@fart63 yea, i dont get it
This is such a lovely video ❤ I'm so glad these four lovely people were able to meet eachother this way 😊
The ending made me feel all warm and fuzzy!! thank you!
i agree with the yellow shirt girls statement about trans who regret transitioning. im a gay boy and during high school i started to dress as a girl but now im in college and realized that i feel more comfortable in my identity as a guy, and turns out im just a guy who likes to wear makeup :D
go for it, dude. be cute af!!
Finally they talked about this!! I hope ppl would stop giving the stereotypes towards bisexuals bcz i always feel bad for them 🥲
Literally lesbians will be like "bisexuals always choose men" and also refuse to date bisexuals... what do you expect?????
바이의 편견은 바람필거같아서 싫어한다기보단 어짜피 바이의 끝은 이성애자의 삶인 것을 알기때문에 꺼려하는거지 않을까 싶네요.. 연애는 남녀구분없이 만나다가 결혼이 거의 엔딩이여셔 근데 그런 이유로 싫어하는건 그냥 게이와 레즈의 열등감과 부러움의 표출 아닐까 싶기도 합니다 사실 되게 연애를 가볍게 생각할거 같다고 생각하는 사람도 많을거구요
I related hard to Hevin as a fellow bisexual. People see the "bi" as you are always liking multiple people at once, and it's really frustrating having to explain that it's not really the case for most people. They wouldn't say the same about straight, gay, or lesbians, so why assume bi are any different? There are polyamorous people, but they can be of any gender and orientation.
I heavily respect the LGBT in Korea especially since it's a VERY judgy place.
I feel like Yena and Hevin are becoming closer over the course of these videos and it's really cute.
I wish I had a cool friend like Yena.
There are definitely similarities with the way the community works in the US, but also some differences I think. Since the US is so large, it really depends on where you are. For example where I live, most queer people stick together because it's such a conservative area and there aren't many of us. In larger cities it can be more cliquey. But some of the stereotypes are everywhere (like lesbians only dating "gold star" lesbians).
good video. lgbtq+ content & queer plp getting platforms is very important!
전 아직까지 제 성적지향성에 대해서 확신하진 못하지만 동성애자, 양성애자, 무성애자 중에 하나라고 생각하는데 되게 다양한 성적지향을 가진 사람들이 한 테이블에서 서로 얘기하는걸 보니까 신기하고 좋네요.
제가 그쪽 커뮤를 해본건아닌데 저도 바이는 동성애자들 사이에서 좀 꺼려하는? 분위기가 있다고 지인에게 듣긴했어요.
8:26 중요한 얘기네요. 최근 페미니스트와 트랜스젠더 사이에 갈등이 심해지고 있는데, 결국 여성혐오의 피해자라는 것에 있어서 우리는 같은 편이라고 생각해요. 멜투펨의 경우에 여자로서 인정받고 싶은 욕구는 더 강한 여성혐오를 불러오기도 하니까요. (여기서 여성 혐오라 함은 여자를 미워한다는 게 아니라 사회적으로 용인된 여성성을 더 강화 시키는 데 일조하는 행위들을 말하는 거예요.) 서로서로 보듬었으면 좋겠어요.
Yes, it's sad that in this world the standards for what is feminine and what is a woman is decided by the patriarchy. What women believe about ourselves isn't even considered. Women who dress in a more masculine way, particularly lesbians, are also victims of intense misogyny for this reason; for not conforming to men's ideal of a woman. Sorry this is in English, I hope to learn Korean in the future.
Oh this is both my second liker and my second Oh I'm both the second liker and the second reviewer, this MARVELOUS✨💖💗
This was very beautiful and meaningful 🥰😇.
@ville__ only a gay person to know that, so... You just came out as gay.
@ville__ only a gay person to know that, so... You just came out as gay.
@ville__ only a gay person to know that, so... You just came out as gay.
@ville__you are disgusting
Of course bisexual women often date men, there are far more straight and bisexual men than there are queer women. I always get depressed on dating apps because for every 100 guys who like my profile there's only 5-10 women who do. It makes it really difficult and frustrating because honestly, I would rather date women but men are so much easier to find.
When you do find a queer woman a lot wont date bisexuals anyway lol
what a gorgeous group of people!
Yo goem the lesbian representative is so fine 😂❤
I loved to hear from the same community, as a lesbian I enjoyed hearing everyone’s opinions about different things, things I’ve been also curious about.
Love and support from gay man from Paris France🇨🇵❤ it is hard for lgbtq in SKorea. You are all inspiring !!
Yena's talk around 8:30 is so important because even though it seems like she's only actually talking about veeeery specific transmen and transwomen (i don't know if the statistic for people regretting for that reason is particularly high), the issue she's addressing actually affects EVERYONE in society -- straight, gay, bi, asexual, transgender, whoever!
These strong and strict gender roles push us to be insecure about our interests and force us to lie and say we like things we don't, just to be accepted by our community. But the truth is, men and women can be SO MUCH MORE than their stereotypes, and all the trans men and women and the nonbinary/genderless people out there are doing so much work to help us reclaim the ability to be who we are.
I begun the video thinking I’ll be disappointed by the homophobia they face, but instead left even more disappointed. I didn’t expect to see that the LGBTQ community itself is divided and they are still dealing with things like “do gays hate lesbians” and vice versa.
Everything they described happens in western countries too, I don’t want to act like we are perfect or to minimize the suffering of ppl who experienced it, but over here, even in Greece, which for those who don’t know, isn’t the most liberal in Europe, if someone’s from the lgbt community tells you “yeah I hate that entire part of the lgbt community”, it’s pretty well accepted that that person is wrong and most ppl would call them out, or personally disassociate themselves from them. I feel like what the guy said abt a lot of his gay friends saying “they just don’t like women” is completely mysogonistic and stems from internalized misogyny. Don’t forget, gay ppl can be too. It’s really sad to see. And for the transgender lady, to see there’s no community to support her. To hear that some ppl get confused that they are trans bcz they just like things typically associated with the opposite gender is crazy to me, I haven’t heard anything similar over here.
In general the conservative nature of Korea showed itself here, even inside the LGBTQ community. I guess it makes sense since they just started to form and gain voice in the public sphere and are still fighting for acceptance. I hope this gets better with the coming years 🤍
I love videos whit Changyu he is so cute ❤❤❤🇧🇷
the random gifs are killing me 😭😭😭
Ooo god changyu personality the way he talks 😊😊😊❤❤
Omg not that one person spamming bible verses lol
As a Straight person this conversation touched my heart I love my LGBTQ brothers and sisters GOD bless you all🙏❤
I'm glad they did this video, because LGBT+ people exist in every part of the world, but in some places sadly they're not acceptable in society so they hide or just don't say they're part of the community mostly for the prejudice. Good video.
so bisexuals all around the world go through the same experiences 😭, i see bi discourse all the time from other queer people saying we only like men or we play around with women but i hate cheaters and as a woman i have only dated a woman... it's sad but ig we have a terrible reputation
it's so silly when you actually think about it. people think a bi person is x2 sexually charged, but really they're just one regular person.
a lesbian or a straight man can have 1 girlfriend and not cheat on every single pretty girl they meet, or a gay man or a straight woman can have 1 boyfriend and not cheat on every single handsome guy they meet, then a bi person can do the same thing.
the undeserved jealousy and mistrust that bi people have to deal with despite doing nothing wrong is soooo stupid.
I thought Yena was in her early 30s the latest!
I really enjoyed this and felt really supported. It's great to see all those people share their experiences, as a queer person i feel very supported, belonged and happy in general! Thank you! And all of you, love yourselves no matter what! Again thank you and have a nice lives!
Chan gyu is so adorable, I am in love with him 😍
Being a bisexual i can say that most of us want to date Girls bcz we want to fut in norm society, but our heart and desires are mostly strong towards same sex ❤
I think that really varies from person to person. I'm bi and people usually think I'm a woman (I'm actually nonbinary), and at 31 years old I've only been with women and nonbinary people, never with a man. I'm attracted to some men, but can't imagine myself having a relationship with one (it could happen tho! just more unlikely than with women and nonbinary people)
Yes, pets all just ignore the fact that bisexuals constantly cheat and use lesbians for s3x and then run back to their boyfriends
You may want to look up "compulsory heterosexuality."
No???? That's not how it works.
that’s more of an individual thing
@GIGGLE we need a part 2!! This was so cute and wonderful to see these amazing people in the community! 🏳🌈💛🧡❤💙💚💜
영상 너무 잘봤습니다!
다들 수고하셨어요 ㅎㅎ
GIGGLE please invite Fromis9 as guest next to interview Them and plus I wanna see Hevin and fromis9 together again it’s been awhile since I saw them together
This is so important and needed thanks for being brave for the lgbt community ❤ let’s normalize this
Hello everyone. I'm a Gay as same as the man in this video, too. Well, I want to share to guys my emotions when I am a Gay bottom . You know, Gay really so difficult to find a true love, me too. The emotions the man had shared in this video honestly be my emotions now. Gay community have lots of people but find a true love and a husband in this community so difficult and you'll be FA forever. Send to everyone from Vietnam. 🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
fix the title '; D
istg 💀
Wish granted.
@@kittysdelusionwhat did it say😂😂😂
what did the title say?
@ville__ with such jackasses to chose from the straight pool I’m not surprised so many ppl chose to be gay :)
Bisexual men catching strays from everyone is common. What it be.
8:30 이런 경우는 너무 슬프고 안타깝네요… 이래서 아주 어렸을 때부터 성교육이 필요한 이유입니다
I just hope you stay happy no matter what you guys all the love to you ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
a mi las personas bisexuales siempre me parecieron geniales, y no porque yo sea una de ellas🫣
The privilege they have that they absolutely refuse to acknowledge,
how some of the worst homophobic hate crimes were committed by them (like the Pulse night club sh00ting for example),
how they've greatly contributed to the modern day misogyny women face today (for instance, the incel movement created by a bisexual),
how so many bisexuals just use lesbians for s3x or as an experiment then go back to their boyfriends,
how no one can ever say anything critical about them without being labeled as "biphobic",
how they're the reason gold star lesbians are hated,
how they're the cause of the massive level lesbophobia that is SO normalised
and so much more
Bisexuals are far from "cool"
OMG This guy is so cute❤
We are all under the same umbrella ☂️ For each one, gay, lesbian, bisexual the discussion is on a person sexual orientation whereas for trans people it’s gender dysphoria. Because trans people can still identify as heterosexual/homosexual or bisexual. ❤❤❤ so I feel as though sometime trans people find themselves as an outcast from the community because they identify as a heterosexual.
We're NOT under the same umbrella. We're COMPLETELY DIFFERENT! Unlike bisexuals, the rest of us aren't selfish and homophobic
@@moowood9818 imagine saying some bs like "we're all queer" and thinking you're not the stupid one🤣
@@Victori.A1 you are being homophobic with your comments, you need a therapist.
@@Victori.A1 your entire personality is being biphobic, I feel so bad for you.
@@Victori.A1 please seek help. You REALLY need a therapist.
I think it is really interesting for me as a Germany to see how the community is in Korea. For me it was "shocking" how separate the communitys are, because for me and in the groups I am we are all different queer people together. Really interesting.
I’m happy you’re happy! Best sentiment ever ❤
They are so adorable!!
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Gosh, Yena is so attractive
It seems that the stigma that bi = cheater is in many cultures. Sorry, we can't help who we are attracted to. Give us a chance... I really related to this.
Im a bi from Brazil🇧🇷❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🇧🇷
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@@Victori.A1 you are disgusting.
@@Victori.A1 i feel so bad for you, being such a f4therl3ss kid.
@@Victori.A1 I feel so sorry for you not having a father figure.
Yay, fellow bi person
They all seem so sweet🫶💕
imo, it is a difference if i say :
i hate gays (as a lesbian)
- - OR - -
if i say - "i dislike men in general as a lesbian"
(big big difference how i build a sentence and even if i say it loud, how it sounds) isnt it?
so maybe it is sometimes a "tiny missunderstanding" build up there - between the ppl - when it comes to gays+lesbians(??)
its just a thought, i had after hearing them talking... (bcos - even if no one must say it loud, and everyone should understand - that a gay person wont go for a girl in general + a lesbian person wont go for a man in general.)
bcos that is somehow and anyway clear - isnt it? :)
PS: love to see chankyu sweetie here involved again.. :)
Yena: i’m 40 years old
me: you’re 20
Yo no soy de la comunidad LGBT pero si conozco a gente de dentro y leo a personas en rrss que también lo pertenecen ahí. Por lo menos lo que es la comunidad de habla hispana yo he visto que hay bastante bifobia.
Primero porque parece que tienen que estar constantemente probando que realmente les gustan las personas de su mismo sexo saliendo con alguien y que no son heterosexuales. Es decir, que si eres una mujer bi tienes que haber salido con alguna mujer para tomar tu orientación sexual en serio.
Aunque no lo he visto por parte de gays, por parte de lesbianas si que he leido mucho comentarios de tipo despectivo hacia mujeres bi. Como que las mujeres bi no son una buena opción para tener una relación porque siempre se van a acabar yendo con un hombre, o que están demasiado traumadas con hombres con los que han salido antes y van a ser tóxicas. O incluso que las mujeres bi solo usan a las lesbianas para experimentar y van a acabar sufriendo.
성소수자도 일반인인데,, 이성애자가 듣기엔 충격적인이라는 제목이 더 맞을 거 같은데요,,🥹
왜 한국인 댓글은 없지?
I secretly ship the lesbian and the bi girl lol
Same 😂
I LOVE CHANGYU SO FRICKIN MUCH!
LGBTQ+ people the best in the world 🌺✨🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🌈🌈💖🙌
Me being a trans bisexual guy 🫦
Gross
@@Victori.A1rude!
@@Victori.A1 must be difficult not having a father, you REALLY need father's love.
@@Victori.A1lifeless
@@Cninnamon_rollthey're a troll who's been going around and spreading biphobia and transphobia in the comments
I think there is a problem with translations sometimes. Male and female are sexes. Men and women are genders.
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Really enjoyed the video love from Pakistan ❤
The bi girl looks like momo(twice) whenever she speaks I can see momo in her
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yena is 40?? woww...
omg it’s been sooo long since i didn’t see hevin omgomg i recommend you all to listen to her song « same here »😊😊
Love this ❤❤❤ but next time please include asexual people too please 🙏 ❤️ 😊
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I forgot her name but the transgender is so pretty
The title is kinda strange
What was it?
@ville__ no it’s not 💀and what does that have to do with anything weird azz
@@Fatbootycheeks69 it was ,,why we all h ate bisexuals“
@@Thatblizzyyy WHATT😭
@ville__ only a gay person to know that, so... You just came out as gay.
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That guy is SO cute
I'm straight and I already have a hard time understanding why people can't understand someone with a different sexual orientation, but hearing that it happens betwin those different communities is wild to me. The exemple of bisexual being cheaters, I don't get it, that doesn't mean they fall in love with every people they meet, no more than a straight, gay or anyone else. People need to see this kind of videos.
Make the automatic caption available, so that countries that do not speak English can translate…
트젠분 이지영강사닮음
쌀이 개동언이네❤
게이 존잘인데
i think you should change the title it’s misleading
What was the title before??