I have the original little bobcat 1 in my collection... I love it.. I watched Paul messners video on the new bobcat. I can understand why they have made these new ultralight tents. I love my bobcat because it is robust, tenacious , warm , highly waterproof and doesn't need seam sealing... I have taken that tent up mountains in storms , thick forest, soggy moors . It deals with the worst treatment... it cost me £47..... so no I won't be getting the new ultralight because it doesn't do any of that... Take care out there.
@@Rando-user-zm1fxI don't hike. I may spend a few days wandering round a mountain range . A few days max.. any more than that and I would see the need to be as light as possible.. I do have some lightweight tents if needed. I use a fjallraven abisco light 1 for winter and a lanshan 2 for summer... Though I use different tents for different camping requirements. I may one day by an ultra light tent , there are some very similar to the lanshan 2...
Can't think of any positives apart from the weight and outer pitch. For weather resistance and warmth, I'd pick the original over the weight saving every time. Put that on the Moor with a light inside and you'd light up like a see through blue beacon.
Great video Dan. Not for me, I know some folks pride themselves on how light their gear is but i’m not prepared to comprimise a bit of weight on a wafer thin tent especially with the weather we get here in the U.K (which is the only place you can buy them). The colour is awful and and so is the price. I have a feeling these will be a big flop.
After watching Paul Messner's review of the UL Bobcat, and now your review of the Phoxx, I think OEX are aiming them at a very specific market. Great in summer for the hardcore gram counters, but not really suitable for heavy use. I think I have to agree with you, there are good, lightweight tents out there that would out perform these OEX offerings, and for a better price too. (My CloudUp2 isn't much heavier and offers more space and stability, and the original Bobcat has always been a tank of a tent) Many thanks for sharing 👍
Paul Messner will always give a biassed opinion. He is a Hilleberg fanboy and does not like to admit that any other tent can cope with extreme conditions. His review of OEX tents is childish. ALL these youtubers are biased to who ever supplies their freebies, all claim to do big distance hikes yet their physique indicates otherwise. Other gimmicks include exaggerated accents, fake supernatural experiences, and the worst of all selling their own brand of stove, claiming all the profits goes to charity then suddenly reviewing high end gear, when they previously only reviewed budget gear....
Can you please tell us which lightweight tent options, cheaper than this, and will out perform it? Interested to see your suggestions, cos I really can think of any?
@@Chris66ableThat bloke pays for nothing! He absolutely swears by the TN Laser 2 compact, I personally think it has quite a few flaws, especially given its price, too 🤦🏻♂️!
As mentioned in the FB group, the design isn't great. I see this as a downgrade to their brilliant previous models. All they had to do was remake the phoxx 2 so that it was a outer and inner set up together so it was perfect in poor weather. Another great video though fella!
I bought a phocomelia 2 from millets about 3 months ago and the inner and outer are together now and it’s dead easy to pitch I love . I like the design of this new phocomelia 1 but not the flimsy looking material and it’s way over priced
Enjoyed the honest in-depth review Dan, like the original Phoxx 1, no room for kit, can’t sit up in it, can’t really cook in it, which to me means it’s basically a hooped Bivi ! The price range is in the lanshan 2 pro range which is lighter and like a palace inside and all though bigger it’s probably more stealthy when it comes to the colour……. Not sure about this one. I 100% agree with you that they should of gone the Phoxx two route 👍
Dan, thanks for this review, which is comprehensive, and down to earth as usual. Most of us like OEX as a brand because they provide well-made gear at an affordable price, plus the tents always work, stay dry, and are durable. The new lightweight range will maybe cater for an extra fanbase, where weight saving is more important - be that for hiking long distances in your waterproof walking boots, or for bike packing on off-road wheels. In this case, the Phoxx 1 has always been basic, and just one size up from a Bivvy bag, and it's not a tent to spend much time inside. So this lightweight version is the same, but made lighter, and sold at a premium price for those that can afford that. If you are hiking and camping in a more sociable way, then the Phoxx2 or Bobcat or Racoon - or even the Jackal II - give you way more head height and living space, and they are all way better for cold weather camping. Could they be lighter? Well maybe. As ever, the purchase decision will be about what you can afford, and about how much you care about your backpack carrying weight. If I was doing the South Downs Way or the Penine Way over three or five days, and on foot, then this Phoxx 1 in the lightweight version would, at just 850grams, be a very good choice. We're being offered the same decision as we already get when buying either a down sleeping bags, or the cheaper hollow fibre synthetic ones. The weight saving comes at a premium price. I tend to buy the heavier stuff, but then I'm not hiking for 20 miles in one day. If walking 5 or 10 miles, I'd rather carry more weight, so as to have more space and comfort overnight. Plus I'd never spend £300 on a one-man tent.
I agree, the footprint should be with the kit! After seeing this set up and you explaining it,I'd rather stick to the original phoxx 1. Great job showing this in detail.
I am not good with change, having only just got the phoxx 2 and tarp set up. But actually, I do like this, a follow-on with the tarp would be good, look forward to seeing a new phoxx 2 review with the tarp. As for the footprint I have a thick groundsheet I bought in Aldi for under a tenner. Another great review Dan. 😊
Fantastic page really genuine and honest reviews and the hotel videos have shocked me but the detail you put into each upload is a wonder to watch. Thank you.
Thank you for bringing this new tent to us . I have to say im impressed .oex seem to really trying to go as light as possible while still providing a useable tent . The fact its possible to sit up in it and .still have a porch area is great .love the door vent (i really wish more tents had this simple feature ). Shame the colour isnt brown but as blue tents go that looks the best ive seen . And at £190 thats a hell of a specification for that money . Most tents built like this cost £400 plus.
I've bought the Bobcat ultralight and have yet to take it out. Although I know it isn't as robust as any of my other tents, as a 69 year old, 5ft 2ins female who doesn't drive and hauls everything on buses. trains and ferries, I'm grudgingly having to admit that I can't carry what I could ten years ago and I need to lighten my load.
Hi Dan just on the subject of stealth camping have you looked at the ridgemonkey head torch it's got white and green light with different intensity settings usb charging also look at the ridgemonkey bivvy light mint kit
Yeah so I like that they've made it pitch outer first, I like the weight, not sure about the see through material. Also I very much would like to see a video with the different revisions of this tent.
I own the Phoxx1 V2 and that’s a great little tent. I wouldn’t get another Phoxx1 simply for the size. I’m 6’1 so it’s not the most roomy. Like you said if they made the Phoxx2 like this I could be interested. That might be my next tent purchase anyway. Thanks for the review as always, looking forward to watching you use it in another video.
It's good to see OEX trying to go lightweight and bring out some new designs. Those people just wanting a lighter PHOXX 1, try searching for a PHOXX 1 EV.
Oex phoxx 1 V1 was my first backpacking tent and honestly this looks like an improvement. I mainly do long distance hikes so I quite like it. For the weight and the price it's actually not that bad and if I don't want to use trekking poles this would be a good option for a tent. Most of all though it's nice to see a company trying something new. Also I wouldn't be surprised if in the future there will be updates to their cheaper tents that will carry over some design choices from these ultralight ones (outer pitch first and things like that).
Thanks for the review mate. Looking at this one for my coast to coast this summer. Loving how light this is. They've really shaved a lot of features off, but I think it might be worth it given the weight they shaved off too.
It is like the very first Jack Wolfskin Gossamer, which had a great bucket groundsheet, but not as good. I make a footprint for my Gossamer using a British Army Protection Kit - the green sheet in it.
Thank you for the review good video I love the tent myself I was looking at buying it because i want to start camping just recovering after a car accident
Great, comprehensive overview Dan. I was initially excited when I saw your post on the OEX group but having seen the review I think I’ll be keeping my v2. It’s compact, robust, highly resistant to weather wind and abuse and I can pitch it with my eyes closed. A UL version on that design would have been amazing but this looks a faff to pitch and keep taught. Also I may be in the minority but I love how snug and bivvy-like my v2 is. Also the colour of mine is perfect for blending in.
Blue is the colour 🎶 oex is the name 🎶 did oex get a nock down roll of blue, though it looks a nice blue shade . Serbia used to have a blue camouflage uniform 💙
Thanks for the vid. Not sure i can see these selling well. A shame as i like oex stuff, love my phoxx 2.I don't think ultralight works in the uk with our weather.
If I want light weight use a tarp and know how to configure the price of that tent is way to high totally taking advantage of how popular the original is, would rather carry extra weight and save money but cheers for the review always enjoy watching your v channi honest reviews no bull like some other you tubers
I do like that OEX have made it outer pitch first and those clips for the inner are much better than the ring and toggles many tents use. I can see the weight appealing to a lot of people but I’d still pick an Alpkit Soloist or Phoxx I V2 over it for the price.
Great video as always brother! .. it looks honestly like a big bivy shelter! …. Not knocking that as I love bivy camping but it seems a lot of money for a higher level bivy?? Very best wishes mate 👍🏻👍🏻😎
Hi Dan not for me mate I bought a fishing bivvy from go outdoors over a year ago 2 man with 10000 hydrostatic head plus groundsheet for 100 quid and to be honest wouldn’t change it for any of these to be honest I love it as it’s bulletproof against the weather and warm all be it a lot heavier ,but it’s all about the individual what suits them best I think it is for me anyway not knocking oex I have a few of their products and they work very well but for now I’ll stick to my bivvy but thanks for the video mate just too pricey for what it is I think take care and all the best ❤️👌👍🔥🔥⛺️⛺️
Great review, Dan. I'm not too impressed with the tent. It's almost see-through, but maybe I need to see it in real life. Would love to see how it performs in windy conditions.
This reminds of a modernised Exped Vela 1, though this is clearly lighter. I would personally avoid a one person tent these days and go for extra space and height, but if camping in tighter spaces, you need to be careful of the footprint.
In the backpack of someone who's top priorities arw ultralite......maybe an ok value, but for most this one will not make the grade. The 3 tent side by side will be very intersting. Cheers 👍👍
So if you seam seal this tent it will be a 900+ gram tent! So nice of OEX to not bother sealing it but then try to charge almost £400 rrp, that is dedication to keeping the price down for us customers...
When I first heard they were doing a ultralite series I thought they were going to try get into the lighter high end like MSR or terra nova, not quite same quality but cheaper on price but still robust. Think they’ve completely missed the mark with these tents especially with a 1500 HH and have to seam seal it yourself is shocking.
Agreed, this thing looks so flimsy, looks like it wouldn't withstand anything more than a stiff breeze. And 1500 HH for that kind of money is just crazy. I've seen better stuff in the middle aisle in Aldi.
I think its important to point out, this isn't a replacement for the phoxx tents. Its not the phoxx 1 v3. Its a new model targeted at those people who do long distances and care about weight. As with any tent you need to think about what you want to use it for, if your going up a mountain in winter, you wouldnt pick this. If your doing a long distance multi day hike in summer, you probably would. P.s. i agree an extra door is always nice. Great video as always, look forward to seeing all the phoxx 1 generations
Not for me. Looking forward to seeing the new brand in a summer down pour and storm to see how it stands up. The new Bobcat looks like a beach shelter and very flimsy. Waiting for the new Rakoon review. Thanks for the video Dan. 👏👏
190 quid aint bad for it imo. The rrp is a bit grim, though. I've gone proper off double wall tents when on my own, though. Pain in the arse getting rid of condensation on a more-than-1-night hike. Can just wipe it off on a single wall. I do like they've not fully solided the inner, which is imo poinless and just a moisture trap on a backpacking tent. Unless its rainy, foggy or blowing a gale, I sleep with one/both fly doors open. Biggest air vent you can get.
Some interesting bits on it but i just think for nearly £200 it’s going up against some seriously popular light weight hiking tents with more features and are a bit more tried and tested. Great video as always dan.👍🏻
Honestly I can't really think of many tents, without using trekking poles, for that price and weight. Yeah there are lighter tents but for more than twice the price. There are also cheaper but heavier tents. Obviously trekking pole tents will often be lighter but also more expensive. For £200 and less than 900g it's pretty damn good.
Oex have always been a good budget range and that’s where they do great, start going £200+ and their getting into another level of tents and there’s a lot more companies to contend with than budget range of tents
@@bobbyball6671 Well personally I would go with oex over 3f ul or asta gear. The only lighter tents with those companies are trekking pole tents, and if you include those then yeah the lanshan is a strong competitor.
£310 pounds retail £190 with membership card! no ground sheet and you have to seal the seams yourself! OEX! you can keep it! Heck even if it was under £40 pounds you could keep it, I would class that as a beach tent summer use only! so thinner Material cheaper pegs, charging Premium price for a cheap tent, I wouldn't spend my cash on this tent. A good review and we understand how reasonable and Diplomatic you had to be as OEX sent you this product Dan, we know your extensive range of OEX products you have and know your true feelings on them, most have been more than positive, but i can't understand how OEX had the Gall to send this product for you to review. Thankfully you are true to your viewers and value them, perhaps OEX might learn something from you, like respect and value your customers and not to try to rip them off just because of the name.
I like the blue color, and for the UL hikers that doesn't mind small spaces it might be pretty interesting I reckon. But, honestly it feels like OEX overdesigned this tent. They could've somply made a Phoxx 1/2 version with an outer first pitch, and then they could've done it in both UL and normal material. The inner first pitch is really the only downside to the Phoxx, the Phoxx 2 is already a pretty light tent in the "1-person-plus-big-rucksack" size range with its 2 kg.
The only advantage is the weight, i think ill stick with my phoxx II v2 and bare the weight while walking, ill be glad i did once the wind and rain kicks up when im pitched
To pricy and I'm a Englishman in Canada that would be nearly 600 dollars canadian. And does oex ship to Canada is my other question. But I subscribe and like your shows Dan 👍
@@englishwoodsman I mean, doesn't it make sense to have them in camo colours? Greens, browns... Especially since the Phoxx is a backpacking tent which is most probably used for wild camping 🤷🏻♀️. Thanks for the review though🙏🏼
Dan ive got the fox2 cost 59 quid ,this is just my opinion but its a much better tent and i didnt have to seam seal it whats all that about!? This tent is so much more to buy!,and i get that its a lot lighter but is it really worth it?
I've found that nylon tents don't perform so well in very wet and windy conditions, typical of UK. Nylon is stronger weight for weight compared to polyester but it sags when wet, flaps, takes longer to dry out, and goes 'sticky' and balloons when trying to roll and pack. It's like the nylon inners on waterproof jackets, literally sticks to your arms when wet with rain or perspiration. Yes, nylon for summer. However for winter, polyester tents, like the Vango Banshees, stand their ground and perform well in wet and cold. Yes, heavier, but if you're a serious winter backpacker, the extra bit of weight is tolerable.
Dan i think its claustrophobic looking as i hate mummy bags it has the same look a bit like bivvy bag sleeping even before i went to tarp and hammock i would only buy 3 man tents and double sleeping bags as i dont care about the weight i pack i have a 100L pack ???
Hate, I'm way too fat for it 😂, maybe a 2 person version would be good but there's so many other tents to look at that will be around the same price or less. Check out the Naturehike Cloud UP 1 or better still the 2p ultralight at 1.1kg. Great video though.
only people who should consider this is those bike packing as every gram really does make a difference! otherwise, much better alternatives out there for the price.
I've been waiting for some of these bigger, budget brands to get into the UL or trekking pole tent market. Unfortunately, it just doesn't seem worth it with what OEX have done here.☹️
Can you image car companies doing something like this…..yes we’ll sell you a car but you’ll have to paint it yourself, don’t worry though, we’ll give you the paint and brush 😂
It might just be me but im really not a fan of seam sealing myself, i think its a cop out on the manufacturer's part. When i do buy a new tent i will make sure its not something i have to do. If it leaks the manufacturer will just blame your seam sealing. Great review though.
Seems much larger pack size considering not much difference in weight from 800g to 1.1kg for the original ones that I currently have and not worth it for that price.
What in the 1996 argos catalogue is going on here
I have the original little bobcat 1 in my collection... I love it.. I watched Paul messners video on the new bobcat. I can understand why they have made these new ultralight tents. I love my bobcat because it is robust, tenacious , warm , highly waterproof and doesn't need seam sealing... I have taken that tent up mountains in storms , thick forest, soggy moors . It deals with the worst treatment... it cost me £47..... so no I won't be getting the new ultralight because it doesn't do any of that... Take care out there.
Thank you for watching
Agreed. It's seems like it's American ultralight larping. UL doesn't fit well with UK conditions.
@@Rando-user-zm1fxI don't hike. I may spend a few days wandering round a mountain range . A few days max.. any more than that and I would see the need to be as light as possible.. I do have some lightweight tents if needed. I use a fjallraven abisco light 1 for winter and a lanshan 2 for summer... Though I use different tents for different camping requirements. I may one day by an ultra light tent , there are some very similar to the lanshan 2...
Can't think of any positives apart from the weight and outer pitch. For weather resistance and warmth, I'd pick the original over the weight saving every time. Put that on the Moor with a light inside and you'd light up like a see through blue beacon.
Spot on!
The standard Phoxx 1 is superior imo! ✌️
Great video Dan.
Not for me, I know some folks pride themselves on how light their gear is but i’m not prepared to comprimise a bit of weight on a wafer thin tent especially with the weather we get here in the U.K (which is the only place you can buy them).
The colour is awful and and so is the price. I have a feeling these will be a big flop.
and not much to offer that you couldn`t get from a bivvi
At that price they can keep it. Still use my phoxx 2. Great review.
Good choice!
I'll keep my banshee
Great review Dan but I think there's much better tents to be had for that kind of money
Thank you for your comment
After watching Paul Messner's review of the UL Bobcat, and now your review of the Phoxx, I think OEX are aiming them at a very specific market.
Great in summer for the hardcore gram counters, but not really suitable for heavy use.
I think I have to agree with you, there are good, lightweight tents out there that would out perform these OEX offerings, and for a better price too.
(My CloudUp2 isn't much heavier and offers more space and stability, and the original Bobcat has always been a tank of a tent)
Many thanks for sharing
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Paul Messner will always give a biassed opinion. He is a Hilleberg fanboy and does not like to admit that any other tent can cope with extreme conditions. His review of OEX tents is childish. ALL these youtubers are biased to who ever supplies their freebies, all claim to do big distance hikes yet their physique indicates otherwise. Other gimmicks include exaggerated accents, fake supernatural experiences, and the worst of all selling their own brand of stove, claiming all the profits goes to charity then suddenly reviewing high end gear, when they previously only reviewed budget gear....
Can you please tell us which lightweight tent options, cheaper than this, and will out perform it? Interested to see your suggestions, cos I really can think of any?
@@Chris66ableThat bloke pays for nothing! He absolutely swears by the TN Laser 2 compact, I personally think it has quite a few flaws, especially given its price, too 🤦🏻♂️!
£190, no ground sheet and seal the seams yourself? Crazy.
OEX are definitely smoking crack
There will be a ground sheet I talked about it in the video
I thought it seamed OK. Seam sealing isn't such a big issue. Cheers Dan
Welcome to the world of "ultralight."
😂
Dosent look like it will stand up.to much either tbh. 😳
As mentioned in the FB group, the design isn't great. I see this as a downgrade to their brilliant previous models.
All they had to do was remake the phoxx 2 so that it was a outer and inner set up together so it was perfect in poor weather.
Another great video though fella!
FULLY AGREE 👍
It would be too impractical for me. That foot end is way too small. My sleep bag or quilt would be touching permanently.
I bought a phocomelia 2 from millets about 3 months ago and the inner and outer are together now and it’s dead easy to pitch I love . I like the design of this new phocomelia 1 but not the flimsy looking material and it’s way over priced
Enjoyed the honest in-depth review Dan, like the original Phoxx 1, no room for kit, can’t sit up in it, can’t really cook in it, which to me means it’s basically a hooped Bivi ! The price range is in the lanshan 2 pro range which is lighter and like a palace inside and all though bigger it’s probably more stealthy when it comes to the colour……. Not sure about this one. I 100% agree with you that they should of gone the Phoxx two route 👍
Dan, thanks for this review, which is comprehensive, and down to earth as usual.
Most of us like OEX as a brand because they provide well-made gear at an affordable price, plus the tents always work, stay dry, and are durable.
The new lightweight range will maybe cater for an extra fanbase, where weight saving is more important - be that for hiking long distances in your waterproof walking boots, or for bike packing on off-road wheels.
In this case, the Phoxx 1 has always been basic, and just one size up from a Bivvy bag, and it's not a tent to spend much time inside. So this lightweight version is the same, but made lighter, and sold at a premium price for those that can afford that.
If you are hiking and camping in a more sociable way, then the Phoxx2 or Bobcat or Racoon - or even the Jackal II - give you way more head height and living space, and they are all way better for cold weather camping. Could they be lighter? Well maybe.
As ever, the purchase decision will be about what you can afford, and about how much you care about your backpack carrying weight.
If I was doing the South Downs Way or the Penine Way over three or five days, and on foot, then this Phoxx 1 in the lightweight version would, at just 850grams, be a very good choice. We're being offered the same decision as we already get when buying either a down sleeping bags, or the cheaper hollow fibre synthetic ones. The weight saving comes at a premium price.
I tend to buy the heavier stuff, but then I'm not hiking for 20 miles in one day. If walking 5 or 10 miles, I'd rather carry more weight, so as to have more space and comfort overnight. Plus I'd never spend £300 on a one-man tent.
Wow thank you for your comment
267 miles The Pennine Way mate.
I agree, the footprint should be with the kit! After seeing this set up and you explaining it,I'd rather stick to the original phoxx 1. Great job showing this in detail.
For phoxx sake
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Bunch of Phoxxwits, honestly
No for my sake for everyone's sake
The original phoxx 1 or the v2 are better but try getting replacement poles cheaper bye a new tent
Hey Dan,good to see you bud.Anytime I get a new tent,I always go over ALL the seams with shoe wax(dubbin).
I like to fabsil them
Stick with my phoxx 1v2 and 2v2 can get em both and Heiro stove and still have change left 👍
Oex phoxx 2 v2 is the best
@@englishwoodsman defo mate 👍
@@davt8615 🤣🤣🤣 everyone as the phoxx 2
@@englishwoodsman good reliable tent mate spot on for bike camping 👍. Be looking forward to you been back out mate 👌
Great review as always .I bought the rakoon 2 soon after discovering you channel.honest and very informative
£190 seems expensive especially with the additional footprint. . Thanks for being honest as ever Dan 👍🙏
I am not good with change, having only just got the phoxx 2 and tarp set up. But actually, I do like this, a follow-on with the tarp would be good, look forward to seeing a new phoxx 2 review with the tarp. As for the footprint I have a thick groundsheet I bought in Aldi for under a tenner. Another great review Dan. 😊
Fantastic page really genuine and honest reviews and the hotel videos have shocked me but the detail you put into each upload is a wonder to watch. Thank you.
Thank you for bringing this new tent to us .
I have to say im impressed .oex seem to really trying to go as light as possible while still providing a useable tent . The fact its possible to sit up in it and .still have a porch area is great .love the door vent (i really wish more tents had this simple feature ). Shame the colour isnt brown but as blue tents go that looks the best ive seen . And at £190 thats a hell of a specification for that money . Most tents built like this cost £400 plus.
I've bought the Bobcat ultralight and have yet to take it out. Although I know it isn't as robust as any of my other tents, as a 69 year old, 5ft 2ins female who doesn't drive and hauls everything on buses. trains and ferries, I'm grudgingly having to admit that I can't carry what I could ten years ago and I need to lighten my load.
Hi Dan just on the subject of stealth camping have you looked at the ridgemonkey head torch it's got white and green light with different intensity settings usb charging also look at the ridgemonkey bivvy light mint kit
Yeah so I like that they've made it pitch outer first, I like the weight, not sure about the see through material. Also I very much would like to see a video with the different revisions of this tent.
I own the Phoxx1 V2 and that’s a great little tent. I wouldn’t get another Phoxx1 simply for the size. I’m 6’1 so it’s not the most roomy. Like you said if they made the Phoxx2 like this I could be interested. That might be my next tent purchase anyway.
Thanks for the review as always, looking forward to watching you use it in another video.
Wasn’t fussed on the bobcat when Paul shown it. I quite like this one. Does seem a bit bigger too.
It's good to see OEX trying to go lightweight and bring out some new designs. Those people just wanting a lighter PHOXX 1, try searching for a PHOXX 1 EV.
Oex phoxx 1 V1 was my first backpacking tent and honestly this looks like an improvement. I mainly do long distance hikes so I quite like it. For the weight and the price it's actually not that bad and if I don't want to use trekking poles this would be a good option for a tent.
Most of all though it's nice to see a company trying something new. Also I wouldn't be surprised if in the future there will be updates to their cheaper tents that will carry over some design choices from these ultralight ones (outer pitch first and things like that).
Thanks for the review mate. Looking at this one for my coast to coast this summer. Loving how light this is. They've really shaved a lot of features off, but I think it might be worth it given the weight they shaved off too.
It is like the very first Jack Wolfskin Gossamer, which had a great bucket groundsheet, but not as good. I make a footprint for my Gossamer using a British Army Protection Kit - the green sheet in it.
I’ll stick to my trusted Terra Nova Pioneer compact 2 , I did like the OEX Bobcat that they brought out .
Thank you for the review good video I love the tent myself I was looking at buying it because i want to start camping just recovering after a car accident
That's fantastic to hear your getting outdoor mate
@@englishwoodsman i'm going to start e bike camping
@tomyoung8449 ebike camping is great but try to save some battery for the morning
@@englishwoodsman was your battery die on your e-bike video bet it was a hard ride home
@@tomyoung8449 I had about 3% left
Great, comprehensive overview Dan. I was initially excited when I saw your post on the OEX group but having seen the review I think I’ll be keeping my v2. It’s compact, robust, highly resistant to weather wind and abuse and I can pitch it with my eyes closed. A UL version on that design would have been amazing but this looks a faff to pitch and keep taught. Also I may be in the minority but I love how snug and bivvy-like my v2 is. Also the colour of mine is perfect for blending in.
Blue is the colour 🎶 oex is the name 🎶 did oex get a nock down roll of blue, though it looks a nice blue shade . Serbia used to have a blue camouflage uniform 💙
Thanks for the vid. Not sure i can see these selling well. A shame as i like oex stuff, love my phoxx 2.I don't think ultralight works in the uk with our weather.
Definitely see the vango theme in the flysheet set up..
I think the lantern hook is to one side to stop you banging your head on the lantern.
You can release 1 of the inner clips to make a larger virtual portch!
The price of the tent I think the company should seam seal it
Alot of people are saying the same
If I want light weight use a tarp and know how to configure the price of that tent is way to high totally taking advantage of how popular the original is, would rather carry extra weight and save money but cheers for the review always enjoy watching your v channi honest reviews no bull like some other you tubers
All be honest mate
I do like that OEX have made it outer pitch first and those clips for the inner are much better than the ring and toggles many tents use. I can see the weight appealing to a lot of people but I’d still pick an Alpkit Soloist or Phoxx I V2 over it for the price.
Great video as always brother! .. it looks honestly like a big bivy shelter! …. Not knocking that as I love bivy camping but it seems a lot of money for a higher level bivy?? Very best wishes mate 👍🏻👍🏻😎
Hi mate thank you for watching
Hi Dan not for me mate I bought a fishing bivvy from go outdoors over a year ago 2 man with 10000 hydrostatic head plus groundsheet for 100 quid and to be honest wouldn’t change it for any of these to be honest I love it as it’s bulletproof against the weather and warm all be it a lot heavier ,but it’s all about the individual what suits them best I think it is for me anyway not knocking oex I have a few of their products and they work very well but for now I’ll stick to my bivvy but thanks for the video mate just too pricey for what it is I think take care and all the best ❤️👌👍🔥🔥⛺️⛺️
Great review, Dan. I'm not too impressed with the tent. It's almost see-through, but maybe I need to see it in real life. Would love to see how it performs in windy conditions.
This reminds of a modernised Exped Vela 1, though this is clearly lighter.
I would personally avoid a one person tent these days and go for extra space and height, but if camping in tighter spaces, you need to be careful of the footprint.
great review
but it is going to be a condensation nightmare
not enough venting
needs the back vent, and perhaps the extra side door
Maybe good for some super light weight multi day trail walks in the warmer/calmer weather. An upgrade from a bivvy in terms of space, maybe (?)
I love OEX stuff but I really think they have missed the mark with these Ultralight tents
In the backpack of someone who's top priorities arw ultralite......maybe an ok value, but for most this one will not make the grade.
The 3 tent side by side will be very intersting. Cheers
👍👍
So if you seam seal this tent it will be a 900+ gram tent! So nice of OEX to not bother sealing it but then try to charge almost £400 rrp, that is dedication to keeping the price down for us customers...
When I first heard they were doing a ultralite series I thought they were going to try get into the lighter high end like MSR or terra nova, not quite same quality but cheaper on price but still robust. Think they’ve completely missed the mark with these tents especially with a 1500 HH and have to seam seal it yourself is shocking.
Agreed, this thing looks so flimsy, looks like it wouldn't withstand anything more than a stiff breeze. And 1500 HH for that kind of money is just crazy. I've seen better stuff in the middle aisle in Aldi.
I think its important to point out, this isn't a replacement for the phoxx tents. Its not the phoxx 1 v3. Its a new model targeted at those people who do long distances and care about weight.
As with any tent you need to think about what you want to use it for, if your going up a mountain in winter, you wouldnt pick this. If your doing a long distance multi day hike in summer, you probably would.
P.s. i agree an extra door is always nice.
Great video as always, look forward to seeing all the phoxx 1 generations
Wouldn't be surprised if there will be a phoxx 1 v3 with some features from this, like outer first pitch as an example.
Not for me. Looking forward to seeing the new brand in a summer down pour and storm to see how it stands up. The new Bobcat looks like a beach shelter and very flimsy. Waiting for the new Rakoon review. Thanks for the video Dan. 👏👏
Also Dan have you ever reviewed the Highlander blackthorn 1 XL on the channel
No mate but I will look for one
@@englishwoodsmanno worries ta
hiya Dan.good vid lots of information. If it's quite light it be good for a bike camp. All the best mate. ✌😎.Si.
I think I'll stick with the green
But I do like outer pitch first
190 quid aint bad for it imo. The rrp is a bit grim, though. I've gone proper off double wall tents when on my own, though. Pain in the arse getting rid of condensation on a more-than-1-night hike. Can just wipe it off on a single wall.
I do like they've not fully solided the inner, which is imo poinless and just a moisture trap on a backpacking tent.
Unless its rainy, foggy or blowing a gale, I sleep with one/both fly doors open. Biggest air vent you can get.
Some interesting bits on it but i just think for nearly £200 it’s going up against some seriously popular light weight hiking tents with more features and are a bit more tried and tested. Great video as always dan.👍🏻
Honestly I can't really think of many tents, without using trekking poles, for that price and weight. Yeah there are lighter tents but for more than twice the price. There are also cheaper but heavier tents. Obviously trekking pole tents will often be lighter but also more expensive. For £200 and less than 900g it's pretty damn good.
@@easternmenace you have the full lanshan range, astra gear tents. These are all tried and tested. Time will tell
Oex have always been a good budget range and that’s where they do great, start going £200+ and their getting into another level of tents and there’s a lot more companies to contend with than budget range of tents
@@bobbyball6671 Well personally I would go with oex over 3f ul or asta gear. The only lighter tents with those companies are trekking pole tents, and if you include those then yeah the lanshan is a strong competitor.
All we wanted is new designs new shapes and the coyote brown😂not sure if it’s worth the money ill stick to older versions 👍
Do you have a phoxx 2 v2?
@@englishwoodsman yeah mate
OEX!!! Great stuff. Great content; and a pox on the links!!!
£310 pounds retail £190 with membership card! no ground sheet and you have to seal the seams yourself! OEX! you can keep it! Heck even if it was under £40 pounds you could keep it, I would class that as a beach tent summer use only! so thinner Material cheaper pegs, charging Premium price for a cheap tent, I wouldn't spend my cash on this tent.
A good review and we understand how reasonable and Diplomatic you had to be as OEX sent you this product Dan, we know your extensive range of OEX products you have and know your true feelings on them, most have been more than positive, but i can't understand how OEX had the Gall to send this product for you to review.
Thankfully you are true to your viewers and value them, perhaps OEX might learn something from you, like respect and value your customers and not to try to rip them off just because of the name.
Oex will have these on sale for 12 pound soon be all over download festival soon 😂
Good video pal, just started watching your vids again
I like the blue color, and for the UL hikers that doesn't mind small spaces it might be pretty interesting I reckon. But, honestly it feels like OEX overdesigned this tent. They could've somply made a Phoxx 1/2 version with an outer first pitch, and then they could've done it in both UL and normal material. The inner first pitch is really the only downside to the Phoxx, the Phoxx 2 is already a pretty light tent in the "1-person-plus-big-rucksack" size range with its 2 kg.
I said in my video oex should of just made the oex phoxx 2 like this
@@englishwoodsman I agree whole heartedly!
Like all oex stuff if they dont sell the price will come down, looking forward to the new racoon UL
Nice honest review 👌 👍 👏 I'm not keen I don't like this particular style of tent if solo camping id rather have a large 2 man tent
Still not putting groundsheets with the oex range 😢
I talked about this mate in the video
@@englishwoodsman 👍
The only advantage is the weight, i think ill stick with my phoxx II v2 and bare the weight while walking, ill be glad i did once the wind and rain kicks up when im pitched
Like the phoxx 1 where do you put your bag / kit
Good honest review.
Get it seam sealed and out in some horrendous weather lol would like to see how it does
That's a plan mate
I like oex kit but you can buy a gortex Dutch army hooped bivey for that money nice Sumer tent though
To pricy and I'm a Englishman in Canada that would be nearly 600 dollars canadian.
And does oex ship to Canada is my other question.
But I subscribe and like your shows Dan 👍
Fjern Gokotta, 1.1kg and half the price.
I saw Paul Messner do a review of another UL Oex tent and I thought "Blue??". And this one's blue as well. WHY??
All the new oex ultralite tents are this colour mate. If would of been good for oex to asks what colour we would like
@@englishwoodsman I mean, doesn't it make sense to have them in camo colours? Greens, browns... Especially since the Phoxx is a backpacking tent which is most probably used for wild camping 🤷🏻♀️. Thanks for the review though🙏🏼
Not the best colour for a country where wild camping is illegal pretty much everywhere!
@@ProcyonAlpha I honestly do t know what Oex were thinking with this colour. If the price doesn't put people off, the colour will.
Is it a finish product if you have to make it waterproof from new.
Why in bloody blue?! Unless they are releasing them in green of course.
All the new tents are blue
@@englishwoodsman Oh that's handy for stealth and wild camping.
At that price id expect the tent to be factory seam sealed. Does look a nice tent though
Dan ive got the fox2 cost 59 quid ,this is just my opinion but its a much better tent and i didnt have to seam seal it whats all that about!? This tent is so much more to buy!,and i get that its a lot lighter but is it really worth it?
I’m a jackel 2 tent I think it weighs more but worth it
Should already be seam sealed not impressed that should already be done.i love the oex phoxx 2 v2 it's my go to tent.
I will alway pick my phoxx 2 v2
i wish it were available in australia
I've found that nylon tents don't perform so well in very wet and windy conditions, typical of UK. Nylon is stronger weight for weight compared to polyester but it sags when wet, flaps, takes longer to dry out, and goes 'sticky' and balloons when trying to roll and pack. It's like the nylon inners on waterproof jackets, literally sticks to your arms when wet with rain or perspiration. Yes, nylon for summer. However for winter, polyester tents, like the Vango Banshees, stand their ground and perform well in wet and cold. Yes, heavier, but if you're a serious winter backpacker, the extra bit of weight is tolerable.
Would love to see how this handles the weather at the top of the hill in peak storm conditions 😂
I reckon it would fold like a crisp packet.
Dan i think its claustrophobic looking as i hate mummy bags it has the same look a bit like bivvy bag sleeping even before i went to tarp and hammock i would only buy 3 man tents and double sleeping bags as i dont care about the weight i pack i have a 100L pack ???
So light its virtually see through!
Thank you for watching
1st what is it made of is it similar to the osmo fabric on the nemo tents and are they dac poles
The poles are endura
@@englishwoodsman why does no British you tubers review nemo tents ?
Hate, I'm way too fat for it 😂, maybe a 2 person version would be good but there's so many other tents to look at that will be around the same price or less. Check out the Naturehike Cloud UP 1 or better still the 2p ultralight at 1.1kg. Great video though.
only people who should consider this is those bike packing as every gram really does make a difference! otherwise, much better alternatives out there for the price.
First! Saw it in the Facebook group. Reminds me of a minion 😂
Thanks for the video keep them coming :)😊
Will do!
I've been waiting for some of these bigger, budget brands to get into the UL or trekking pole tent market.
Unfortunately, it just doesn't seem worth it with what OEX have done here.☹️
Can you image car companies doing something like this…..yes we’ll sell you a car but you’ll have to paint it yourself, don’t worry though, we’ll give you the paint and brush 😂
It might just be me but im really not a fan of seam sealing myself, i think its a cop out on the manufacturer's part. When i do buy a new tent i will make sure its not something i have to do. If it leaks the manufacturer will just blame your seam sealing. Great review though.
Maybe the low hydro head is because of the crazy thin nylon? Not sure as I haven't a lot of silnylon gear myself but that seems crazy low.
I've got a sil nylon tarp and its HH is 5000.
@@scotbotvideos but is it 10d, 15d or 20d?
@@turtlewolfpack6061 40d
I'm a big fan of ultra lightweight gear, but a 1500 hydrostatic head isn't enough for the uk.
Excellent review. 👍
It's a bivvy tent that leaks?
Wow it's not like they couldn't put another zip on the other side especially for the money they're asking.
The + indicates there is not just room for you but also an extra sock lol
Only one sock 🤣🤣
Looks good Dan
Seems much larger pack size considering not much difference in weight from 800g to 1.1kg for the original ones that I currently have and not worth it for that price.
Go outdoors also give forces discount 👍🏻