The Remarkable Life of the Colorful Female Aviator Pancho Barnes

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    It could be argued that flying was in Pancho’s blood. Born into a wealthy family in 1901, Florence Leontine Lowe, as she was originally known, grew up in a large mansion in California. Her family’s wealth was built on aviation. Pancho’s grandfather was Thaddeus S.C. Lowe, the man responsible for establishing the United States’ first military air unit during the Civil War. The Union Army Baloon Corps might have been made up of hot air balloons rather than airplanes, but it was fairly revolutionary in its time. It was also Grandpa Lowe who took Pancho to her first air show when she was ten years old, cementing her love of flight at a young age.
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  • @TodayIFoundOut
    @TodayIFoundOut  6 років тому +2

    Now that you've learned all about Pancho Barnes check out this video and find out about That Time Annie Oakley Offered to Put Together an All Female Sniper Team:
    ua-cam.com/video/9q9PE7sbNdA/v-deo.html

    • @katelynsalazar2491
      @katelynsalazar2491 4 роки тому +1

      Today I Found Out, Thaddeus Lowe used Gas Balloons. Not hot air balloons. Hot air balloons were initially invented by the Montgolfier Brothers in 1782, but quickly fell out of favor after Jacques Charles invented the Gas Balloon. Gas balloons could fly longer and were less dangerous. It wouldn’t be until the 1950’s when the U.S. Navy contacted Ed Yost to build the Modern Hot Air Balloon.

  • @IroncladIndustrial
    @IroncladIndustrial 6 років тому +18

    When I was a kid my dad was a good friend of Pancho's son Bill and use to fly with him all the time. Bill was killed when his plane crashed due to mechanical failure, fortunately my dad wasn't with him. Growing up in the Antelope Valley, Poncho was well known. Thanks for sharing!

    • @mikepowers171
      @mikepowers171 4 роки тому +3

      I wish I could have met her. I live in Palmdale and have been to the ruins of the Happy Bottom Riding Club and absolutely love the aviation history of the Antelope Valley. I work at Van Nuys Airport for Clay Lacy and used to work for R.A. Bob Hoover

    • @aprillowe2890
      @aprillowe2890 2 роки тому +3

      Any stories would awesome ❤ just found my ancestors and to find her a part of it is amazing. Thank you

    • @aprillowe2890
      @aprillowe2890 Рік тому

      @@mikepowers171 anything Plz just a story

  • @GeorgeSemel
    @GeorgeSemel 6 років тому +20

    Charles E. "Chuck" Yeager knew Pancho very well and if you read his autobiography he talks about her a lot. The First Mrs. Yeager would say Pancho was a mess. I suspect that there are very few card-carrying members of the Happy Bottom Riding Club still around, General Yeager is one, heck he got to be going on 97 years of age now. As a side note, There are Golden Trout in all the ponds and alpine lakes in the Calfornia Mountains around Lake Tahoe area, that is because Chuck Yeager put them there, with a few unauthorized helicopter flights. He liked to fish among other things.

    • @YoungBrave2006
      @YoungBrave2006 6 років тому +1

      He broke his arm riding horses at her place the day before he broke the sound barrier in the X-1. That's why he had to use a broomstick to close the canopy on the thing. Also, Chuck Yeager's biography should be required reading in all schools.

    • @Warren_Oates_Ghost
      @Warren_Oates_Ghost 6 років тому

      Chuck Yeager just turned 95, he post on Twitter and he does answer people sometimes.......Not sure if he does it himself or with help.

  • @jeraflare4355
    @jeraflare4355 6 років тому +14

    Those ending quotes were enough on its own for me to like her

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 6 років тому

      Yeah, when I run RPG's there's a kind of "recycling NPC" who seems to fairly consistently become a "Mama Bear" figure with "noob parties"... Krin is kind of a weird mix of Yogi Berra and Pancho Barnes, and quotes like those get to be called "Krin-isms" around the table. ;o)
      {apologies if my name-spellings are terrible}

    • @aprillowe2890
      @aprillowe2890 7 місяців тому

      💯♥️😂

  • @Rolletti21
    @Rolletti21 6 років тому +26

    Wow, no fair that I've never heard of her. That's why I LOVE TIFO Thanks Simon 😳🌸

    • @sparkplug1018
      @sparkplug1018 6 років тому +3

      They had a, from what I can gather about Pancho's life, pretty good depiction of the club in the movie The Right Stuff.
      Pancho befriended a lot of those early test pilots, including Yeager (who was the first to win her offer of a free steak dinner to the first man to break the sound barrier) and Aldrin, among others.

    • @sensitivepetalflower
      @sensitivepetalflower 6 років тому

      I haven't seen that movie since I was a kid. I'll have to check it out again!

    • @JamesSchipper
      @JamesSchipper 6 років тому +1

      I think The Right Stuff was the first place I heard of her. The officer's mess at Edwards AFB is called the Pancho Barnes Room.

  • @SupercarAdventurer
    @SupercarAdventurer 6 років тому +2

    Enlightening info about Pancho. I visited the ruins of the Happy Bottom Riding Club in October. So much aviation history in one place.

  • @lisarakic9285
    @lisarakic9285 6 років тому +6

    I remember hearing about her first marriage differently. She didn't want to get married. She agreed to marry for her mother's sake. Her mother wanted to make sure her daughter was taken care of. Pancho eventually asked her husband for a divorce, but he refused. It took a while before he would agree to one. She told a friend she had to ride into her husband's church nude on horseback before he finally agreed to a divorce. Her friend asked if that was true and Pancho replied that it makes for a good story, doesn't it.

  • @spacecatandthekittens1954
    @spacecatandthekittens1954 6 років тому +3

    Pancho Barnes sounds like someone I'd like to hang out with. What a character.

  • @UpcycleElectronics
    @UpcycleElectronics 6 років тому +22

    Daven,
    How about covering the rise and fall of Cracked? Hardly anyone seems to have mentioned their demise since they disappeared from YT. I had to do some digging just to find out the story for myself a few weeks ago. (They were bought out by a company that, basically, ran it into the ground until the Brian dude that founded it got fed up and left. After that it was a fairly quick crash and burn ;)
    They had several million subs. I bet they are recent enough to pull a large YT audience that is just realizing they are gone. Could be interesting :)
    We all (should) miss the unfiltered truth commercials with Roger.
    -Jake

    • @YoungBrave2006
      @YoungBrave2006 6 років тому +3

      Check out Michael Swaim's channel, Small Beans, that is where the spirit of Cracked is migrating now.

    • @UpcycleElectronics
      @UpcycleElectronics 6 років тому +1

      Black Lives DO Matter!!!
      Lol. I just found it. Thanks for the reference. Small beans is like 24 hours old. You associated with it? Hopefully they "grow their beans" quickly ;)

    • @YoungBrave2006
      @YoungBrave2006 6 років тому +2

      I literally found out about Small Beans the day after Cracked fired everybody because of a fan posting about it on the last video on that channel. Apparently Swaim had left around October of last year because of his alcohol issues; but now that is where DOB, Soren Bowie, Cody, and the Katies are likely to be seen. Katy Stoltz is actually doing a new acting reel to try to drum up more work possibly right as I write this. Also, you can follow them individually on twitter, which is another thing I started doing that I hadn't done before.

  • @peterzotti6430
    @peterzotti6430 6 років тому +2

    Best story yet.... the legend of Pancho Barnes... I can't wait to show this to a girl I know who is like a mini Pancho.... lol

    • @sparkplug1018
      @sparkplug1018 6 років тому

      Pancho from all accounts was a very interesting person, and for sure one of the guys.

  • @MichaelSteeves
    @MichaelSteeves 6 років тому +5

    Wait, I just hear about her on the "Plane Tales" section of the Airline Pilot Guy podcast. Before that I only recalled a brief mention of Chuck Yeager falling off one of her horses the day before he broke the sound barrier.

    • @sparkplug1018
      @sparkplug1018 6 років тому

      The club was from what I can gather pretty accurately portrayed in The Right Stuff. Yeager did break a few ribs after drinking there on October 13th, but made the flight anyway. Pancho was a colorful figure who was good friends with many of the test pilots at Edwards. The club burned down under mysterious circumstances while she was fighting the Air Force in court.

  • @hunniemaxandtheirhumantoo3351
    @hunniemaxandtheirhumantoo3351 6 років тому +4

    Could you do an episode on Brian Blessed, one of the UK's most colourful and interesting men who was the king of the Hawkmen in Flash Gordon to climbing mount Everest. Definitely a deserving of a mention :)

  • @SciencewithKatie
    @SciencewithKatie 6 років тому +14

    She has the best name!

  • @Chuck59ish
    @Chuck59ish 6 років тому +16

    Wasn't that her ranch the Chuck Yeager and the test pilots from Edward's used to hang out at in the movie The Right Stuff?

    • @ShadowACE1998
      @ShadowACE1998 6 років тому +8

      Charles Damery Yep it was. In the book The Right Stuff Tom Wolfe goes into great detail on how test pilots from Edwards would hang out at Panchos, get drunk, and go on "proficiency runs". I.E. racing their cars in the desert.

    • @Backroad_Junkie
      @Backroad_Junkie 6 років тому +3

      Yep. Look for her documentary. Yeager is in it. Explains how he broke his ribs the night before the flight. :)

    • @jeremyheminger6882
      @jeremyheminger6882 6 років тому +5

      I thought the same thing...It's unusual for Simon to graze over a fact as interesting as this. "Bad Simon"...no treat.

    • @sparkplug1018
      @sparkplug1018 6 років тому +4

      I was really disappointed that Simon didn't mention that. She had a pretty good friendship with many of those early test pilots.
      He also missed the rumor the Air Force started about it being a whore house and the mysterious nature of the fire the destroyed it.

    • @ehrldawg
      @ehrldawg 6 років тому +1

      One of my favorite films *of all time* !!

  • @timothymclean
    @timothymclean 6 років тому +16

    I'm slightly disappointed that Pamela didn't teach the students at her boarding school to run, spit, curse, and fight. Don't flee the system, change the system!
    ...It might not have been effective at a school, but I feel it's still a good principle.

  • @russellboston
    @russellboston Рік тому

    When I first moved to Laguna Beach I often delivered pizzas to her former house-property-airstrip, where movie stars used to fly in from Hollywood in the 1920s and 30s. It was an incredible time capsule ranch tucked in old growth pines with a wrap-around ocean view. Every time I drove in there it felt like I was back in time. It’s now an exclusive gated community called Smith Cliffs and has been replaced by 22 mansions.

  • @hvonwolfenstein2638
    @hvonwolfenstein2638 6 років тому +2

    I'm pretty sure she led the coolest life ever!

  • @Backroad_Junkie
    @Backroad_Junkie 6 років тому +5

    If you found this video interesting, look up the documentary, "The Legend of Pancho Barnes and the Happy Bottom Riding Club".
    It's an extraordinary look at this remarkable aviator's life...
    (Disclaimer, I have nothing to do with the video, but have seen it, and Pancho really was one of the guys. Her bar is where the guys who broke the speed of sound went to celebrate...)

    • @sparkplug1018
      @sparkplug1018 6 років тому

      Yeager took her up on that offer of a free steak dinner to whoever was the first, October 14th 1947. 6 years latter Scott Crossfield would take her up on the same offer.

  • @BikesDrones
    @BikesDrones 6 років тому +7

    Thanks not adding a stupidly long ad to your video. Respect for listening to your viewers.

    • @Biscuit0516
      @Biscuit0516 6 років тому +2

      Or...and I know this is crazy...maybe just appreciate the fact that the ads are there to make money for the free content you are getting and just suffer the awful indignation of watching a 30 second or 1 minute ad.

  • @luciamaldonado-medina1406
    @luciamaldonado-medina1406 6 років тому

    As the daughter of an Episcopalian preacher, I thoroughly enjoyed this video

  • @1natehill
    @1natehill 5 років тому

    Bill was my first flight instructor in 1968 at Fox Field.

  • @djinnifer
    @djinnifer 6 років тому

    I love these biographies on TIFO. I especially enjoyed this one. Thanks for posting!

  • @user-ev5gj8xe2b
    @user-ev5gj8xe2b 6 років тому

    she's my hero. thanks for sharing this.

  • @theofficialdiamondlou2418
    @theofficialdiamondlou2418 Рік тому

    So including the things others already mentioned. You also forgot to add that she was a founder of the Movie Aviators Guild. Much to the chagrin of Howard Hughes .. and during WWII she was hired by Edwards AFB to train new pilots in basic flight , and combat training. She was that good a pilot. She even once as a movie stunt pilot , did a stunt for HH that no other pilot would even attempt as it was to dangerous . She forced HH to pay her double or more. And did the stunt in one take. (She purposely crashed into a barn at full speed.) this is what prompted her to start a guild. As she felt all the pilots were being underpaid for such a dangerous job.

  • @mazecentric4124
    @mazecentric4124 6 років тому +1

    You have never covered the greatest mystery of all: Belly-button lint. Why is it always a different color than the shirt you're wearing ?! Unnatural.

  • @billylozito5790
    @billylozito5790 6 років тому

    She used to have the test pilots such a chuck Yeager , at her place , they ate and drank there, her character is in the right stuff movie, her ranch had pics of all the record breaking pilots on her wall at her inn.

  • @chrstfer2452
    @chrstfer2452 6 років тому +2

    Thanks Simon and everyone else on the TIFO team

  • @donsample1002
    @donsample1002 6 років тому

    Another important fact: Pancho looked nothing like Valerie Bertinelli (who played her in a very fictionalized made for tv biopic)

  • @luvsilly60
    @luvsilly60 9 місяців тому

    A bright light a bright life.

  • @3p1cand3rs0n
    @3p1cand3rs0n 6 років тому

    Wow, Simon moves his hands a lot. It's like, they have their own bodies.

  • @catherinehermansen4376
    @catherinehermansen4376 5 років тому

    Thank you. She's my heroine.

  • @sparkplug1018
    @sparkplug1018 6 років тому +2

    Why didn't you mention the mysterious fire that destroyed the Happy Bottom Riding Club during the court proceedings, or that the Air Force started a rumor that she may have been running a house of ill repute to declare it off limits?

  • @spanksthx
    @spanksthx 6 років тому

    I loved this one

  • @SaturnCanuck
    @SaturnCanuck 6 років тому

    You forgot to mention about the fire that "mysteriously" destroyed the Happy Bottom Flying Club.

  • @andriandrason1318
    @andriandrason1318 6 років тому

    Please do one on Leicester Clarence Hemingway, brother of writer Ernest Hemingway. About how he founded his micronation of New Atlantis on an 8 foot by 30 foot barge, under the Guano islands act.

  • @jaspr1999
    @jaspr1999 6 років тому +9

    Can you do a video on Susan Oliver?

  • @jonnda
    @jonnda 6 років тому

    "Happy Bottom Riding Club" sounds like a sexual innuendo.

  • @owenfitzgerald3219
    @owenfitzgerald3219 6 років тому

    This was a good story. Thanks for that.

  • @burntwafflese6388
    @burntwafflese6388 6 років тому +50

    If she was so colorful why is the thumbnail black and white

    • @N3therWolf
      @N3therWolf 6 років тому

      BurntWaffleGames aids. Thats why

    • @Saint_nobody
      @Saint_nobody 6 років тому +1

      *THAZ RACIST!*

  • @Dsdcain
    @Dsdcain 6 років тому

    Great videos about someone unknown to many people. *:D*

  • @jasonkeen9401
    @jasonkeen9401 6 років тому

    Her Ranch was seen in the movie The Right Stuff.

  • @lesslisilverman
    @lesslisilverman 6 років тому

    You're very good at this.

  • @mrsgbee8246
    @mrsgbee8246 6 років тому

    Oh I loved that one!

  • @alexlandherr
    @alexlandherr 6 років тому

    Interesting portrayal in “The Right Stuff”.

  • @YoungBrave2006
    @YoungBrave2006 6 років тому

    Her joint is where Chuck Yeager broke his arm the day before he broke the speed of sound in the X-1.

  • @strangethoughts6524
    @strangethoughts6524 6 років тому

    Hey Simon loving the videos 💯 I have a suggestion for you Do a video about Thomas Cochrane, Tenth Earl of Dundonald, honestly once you do the research guarantee you’ll find his life so interesting, he was a successful Captain in the Royal Navy during the Napoleonic War and politician and mercenary lol peace out bro

  • @JeffinBville
    @JeffinBville 6 років тому

    That was great.

  • @luvsilly60
    @luvsilly60 9 місяців тому

    One of the Wright brothers signed her pilot license.

  • @GuppyCzar
    @GuppyCzar 6 років тому +4

    Pahn-cho. Otherwise top notch!

    • @gpcoins539
      @gpcoins539 6 років тому +1

      Game Czar Pancho is not a male... Pancho is pronounced properly...

  • @CreatorCade
    @CreatorCade 6 років тому

    What a wild woman.

  • @marcusvachon845
    @marcusvachon845 6 років тому

    Hollywood could turn her life story into a movie or miniseries. Great story.

  • @aliceinmadseason2319
    @aliceinmadseason2319 6 років тому +2

    You think the vibration of those old airplanes vibrating her seat sort of....wet her whistle..?

    • @sparkplug1018
      @sparkplug1018 6 років тому

      Pancho probably would have told you to take her for a flight and find out.

  • @Dick_thickems
    @Dick_thickems 6 років тому

    Antelope valley legend.

  • @Strafer66
    @Strafer66 6 років тому

    I have an idea for a video. Do one on where the news reporter voice came from/started. You know, that same tone of voice that all reporters speak in. Admittedly, and I don't mean this is a bad way, you use it a bit too. I've always wondered who was the first to speak like that and why.

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena 6 років тому +2

    She beat Emilia's record and I didn't know about it?!

  • @itrthho
    @itrthho 5 років тому

    Bonus Fact: Pancho's pilots license was signed by Orville Wright.

  • @sarahkuhr420
    @sarahkuhr420 6 років тому

    This was good!

  • @aynrand7030
    @aynrand7030 6 років тому

    She is now my favorite aviator. Move over Earhart and Lindbergh.

  • @markwelsh5005
    @markwelsh5005 2 роки тому

    Crystal sparks and the breathing of trees in the silence of warm moments in the great universal night, where the black shine of jewelled stars erupts behind eyelids and brings the twisted road into spirals that spin like Catherine Wheels, igniting momentary despair in the souls of those abandoned to the vaulting abyss of eternity and coincidence, the smell of hanging raindrops on the air currents that blow over quiet towns, through main streets, over churches and meeting halls where cluster the men and women who live as newsprint ghosts, turning in the vortices of possibility and striking out across the great continent as the hammer comes down and the soil buries us all.

  • @seasong7655
    @seasong7655 6 років тому +2

    0:25 Wait isn't that Nietzsche?

    • @peterzotti6430
      @peterzotti6430 6 років тому

      seasong .... lol... Nah the stash is too small...

  • @mcsabas1042
    @mcsabas1042 6 років тому +1

    Do a video on the yidispolitica scandal

  • @laloesquivel9000
    @laloesquivel9000 6 років тому

    Do you have a video about the Dassler brothers?

  • @deadfreightwest5956
    @deadfreightwest5956 6 років тому

    She had the Right Stuff.

  • @gabrielreed1096
    @gabrielreed1096 6 років тому +1

    Can you do a video on the Iran-Contra Deal?

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean 6 років тому +1

      Maybe if they dig up some interesting trivia about it.

    • @sparkplug1018
      @sparkplug1018 6 років тому +1

      Could probably do a 3 hour documentary on that and not cover even half of it.

    • @gabrielreed1096
      @gabrielreed1096 6 років тому

      sparkplug1018
      I'd just love for Simon do talk about it. I'm sure he could summarize it accurately, but still in a short video

  • @darkglass1
    @darkglass1 6 років тому

    Bad Simon, you didn't mention her being portrayed in the movie, The Right Stuff, nor how her business burned down, nor her friendship with Chuck Yeager.

  • @voodoochild1975az
    @voodoochild1975az 3 роки тому

    As great a movie as The Right Stuff is, generally, I do consider their portrayal of Poncho a bit of a disservice... they reduce her to a salty bartender... which she could be at times at her club. I mean, they do acknowledge her as the owner.... but they never mention why pilots hang out there and respect her... or why SHE IS ON BASE FOR YEAGER'S FAMOUS FLIGHT (I don't think she was in reality, but it wouldn't shock me if she really was). They never mention she was a pilot, or how badass she was that all these balls of iron test pilots have utmost respect for her... as a elder peer.

  • @ceciliaspears161
    @ceciliaspears161 6 років тому

    15 gallons of jello...

  • @beaujangus3619
    @beaujangus3619 6 років тому

    THAT IS ONE KICK ASS LADY

  • @KEANUR94
    @KEANUR94 6 років тому

    Can you do a video on Lale Sokolov?

  • @MojaveNarrows
    @MojaveNarrows 2 роки тому

    It would have been much better without the chintzy public domain picture backgrounds throughout the video.

  • @shmander
    @shmander 6 років тому

    where the hell is the movie for this woman!?!?

  • @jameswoodard8414
    @jameswoodard8414 6 років тому

    Where us this kind of Women Today . wow ya gotta live her

  • @discordlexia2429
    @discordlexia2429 6 років тому

    Damn I love tomboys. There's something about 'em that's so entertaining. Guess it's that it's nice to be around women, but you don't need to tiptoe around a tomboy because if you offend them they'll just say something far more offensive and laugh.

  • @KyleSSamuelson
    @KyleSSamuelson 6 років тому +3

    Aviatrix is a female aviator. That’s like saying female actor or female waiter, instead of just saying actress or waitress.

    • @lisarakic9285
      @lisarakic9285 6 років тому +3

      Aviatrix is not commonly used and the term, "aviator", like 'pilot' is genderless. The definition of aviator is pilot, not male pilot. In contrast, the definition of waiter is a man who serves customers at their tables in a restaurant. The title of the video could have just used 'aviator', but it's not clear the name Pancho Barnes is that of a woman. In this case, 'female aviator', is a good choice.

  • @6thwilbury2331
    @6thwilbury2331 6 років тому

    Watching this video like some lonesome goddamn mouseshit sheepherder.

  • @londonderrry
    @londonderrry 6 років тому +1

    What a very, very sad life...

    • @shon5960
      @shon5960 6 років тому

      Right up there with yours for sure.

    • @londonderrry
      @londonderrry 6 років тому +4

      We'll talk after you move out of your mom's basement...

    • @purplereign5889
      @purplereign5889 6 років тому +1

      london derrry, lmao what a lovely comeback 😂😂

    • @danaphanous
      @danaphanous 6 років тому +1

      Are you referring to all the divorces and affairs? I found that part to be pretty sad too, but it is just one part of her life. The woman is quoted as saying she felt very fulfilled and happy a the end of her life, and no person would know better then her.

    • @sparkplug1018
      @sparkplug1018 6 років тому

      I don't really take it that way, while there were a few things in her life that she didn't find fulfillment in, there were many others that she did. She lived by most accounts a good life, had a good time and checked out. Cant ask for to much more then that.

  • @quincee3376
    @quincee3376 2 роки тому

    Simon Whistler > Whistler, B.C.

  • @patriotHannibal
    @patriotHannibal 6 років тому

    Why are toilets made of porcelain?

  • @vltjr1
    @vltjr1 6 років тому

    Love your show. However you sure talk FAST

  • @KuLaydMahn
    @KuLaydMahn 5 років тому

    Certainly a flawed individual. All the best people are, though!

  • @mikedudez
    @mikedudez 6 років тому +1

    now that's a WOMAN

    • @vgloveforlife
      @vgloveforlife 6 років тому

      I bet she was a feminist too! All the authentic women are.

    • @mikedudez
      @mikedudez 6 років тому

      for that day it was needed more so than today, today if i open a door for a woman i get a snarky look from them with TODAYS feminist. we only need a little bit of feminism and more EQUALITY.

    • @vgloveforlife
      @vgloveforlife 6 років тому

      Saying we only need "a little bit of feminism" is like saying "let's just care about women a little bit, and "let's just a little bit of progress." Feminism is still needed..do you know what the number one killer of pregnant women is in the US? murder. Pads and tampons are taxed as a luxury item but toilet paper is not. Isn't that unbelievable when you really think about it. Only 20% of lawmakers are women (wow!). 3 million women undergo female genital mutilation a year. Out of all the millions of people trafficked a year 80% are female. Then there are other issues such as pregnancy, medical care specific to female issues, breastfeeding rights, representation in all areas including movies where women make up less than a 1/3 of speaking roles, language which male is the default, maternity leave, domestic abuse, rape, birth control, abortion, bodily rights etc. Feminism cares about issues specific to women and girls. What is wrong with that? Are you anti-women or something? Have you seen this study that shows that non-feminists are more hostile to men that feminists: that www.psychologytoday.com/files/attachments/5173/pwq2009.pdf It's the way in which men hold the door that matters. Are you holding the door as a decent human being with manners, or because you just want to be chivalrous? Are you holding the door so she can go first, even though you were at the door first and could instead go through first and then hold the door for her? Is it really progressive to bend over backward to hold the door just because someone is a woman? Good manners are important, but most people, men and women, want chivalry to die because it hurts both genders.

    • @mikedudez
      @mikedudez 6 років тому

      where i could show you facts that dispute all the examples you put out there, question is would you use that to decide using your FEELINGS and just call me a male pig just because i have a different point of view or will you actually compare and quote me more facts and examples that main stream media tells you? woman have a lot of hang ups so do us men (parental custody and false claims of sexual harassment ) woman can fight for their rights but dont try to claim victory because a man decided hes going to be a woman because hes tired of being a man (even though he still is a man) so all your statistics about woman still shows they are not oppressed like they were back in the day. by the way i hate the word Feminism it sounds a lot like COMMUNISM.

  • @calichef1962
    @calichef1962 6 років тому

    I would have liked Pancho, but I would have pronounced her name right. >sigh< I really wish the Spanish pronunciations were better. I've asked, I've explained and I've even volunteered, but no improvement. >sigh

  • @DasAntiNaziBroetchen
    @DasAntiNaziBroetchen 5 років тому

    What's up with women in the past passing as men just like that?? How the hell did they pull that off? That also makes them sound borderline trans.

  • @overlordbrandon
    @overlordbrandon 6 років тому +1

    18th comment!

    • @beaujangus3619
      @beaujangus3619 6 років тому

      wooow good for you buddy, im sure you'll remember this for years to come

  • @jerryread2843
    @jerryread2843 6 років тому

    25th

  • @mcsabas1042
    @mcsabas1042 6 років тому +1

    First