Cracks in Canadian military's Cyclone helicopters raises concerns about future use
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- There are questions about the Canadian military's fleet of Navy helicopters, called the Cyclones, after a crack discovered in one led to inspections that detected cracks in 18 others.
The cracks are the latest in a growing list of issues with the Cyclones, including a software problem that caused one of the helicopters to crash off the coast of Greece last year, killing all six service members on board.
Ross Lord reports on what the latest discovery could mean for the future of the choppers.
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Once again our military procurement shows its incompetence. Everything from simple clothing to the most advanced equipment is botched.
@Flippers 2 If that excuse was reasonable there would be no weak country only "in process" ones😂
hope we kept the receipt's
Just like the Brits selling us defective subs, these duds prove the absolute incompetence of our procurement department in government. The wise person would bring experts to "test drive" the equipment before purchase and verify its bona fide status by looking at accident, observation and repair records. There is a reason why the countries that sold these duds to us and there must be a paper trail to support that. IF a country fails to produce ALL relevant documentation on given purchase, then that purchase should be looked upon as suspect and maybe a bad idea to procure. We are, of course, sinking billions of dollars into these purchases so absolute diligence is mandatory. To do otherwise is foolish.
No, the Canadian government bought the subs under a "buyer beware" policy. They didn't have to.
Should have bought the EH-101. But no, the politicians have to play games.
EH-101 / or CH-149 Cormorant has its own shares of problems...including rotor shaft cracks due to metal fatigue.
What is about Canadian purchasing agents that when it comes to military equipment, subs burned and helicopters not up to the job. Federal government has to get better at purchasing equipment instead of killing our troops by bad purchases.
Why did they need a special helicopter just for the RCN?? Why not a Seahawk or Merlin that would have been off the shelf ready to go and parts available??????
It doesn't matter what helicopter we bought, it would have been Canadianized. We have different systems. We were originally going to buy the EH-101. But a new government came in, cancelled the project. Then we bought the Sikorsky. Less aircraft for more money and a 10 year delay...
Weird purchasing process ,
Every item is or be customized ,
Or it's just NOT- CANADIANized if it's off the shelf .
Same with food ,
we have canadian bacon , not just bacon .
Hold on , I know it's just NOT the same, , , but bacon should be the same , bacon.. .
Good thing , KFC stand for Kentucky Fried chicken ,
Not KAPUSKASING Fried Chicken.
The whole procurement system needs to be overhauled. The current system is being "gamed" by contractors to extract as much money as possible from the taxpayers for the least expenditure from their part. The military should also have more of a say over what gets selected other than just giving a list of requirement. That's how we end up almost always buying overpriced cheap junk that is half-assedly adapted to technically meet those requirements but was never actually intended to be used in the way our military uses it and ends up never working properly in real life.
Politicians should also not be allowed to interfere in the procurement process. They seem to can't help but blatantly waste huge amounts of taxpayer dollars and cause significant unnecessary delays by cancelling procurement programs that were adopted by the previous government whenever there's a change of government for nothing but petty political reasons.
Afganistan has some helicopters for sale.
People will be killed in those things, mark my words.
Already happened
If crack (metal fatigue) develops in the bearing shaft (on rotary), it will lead to eventual separation of rotor from the main fuselage of aircraft - you can see the example of this in the crash of CHC Helikopter Service EC225 Super Puma helicopter on April 29, 2016. Cracks on tail is different than rotary metal fatigue in this case - it could be more or less a structural integrity being compromised due to many various reason...I am sure experts and Sikorsky will be deeply involved in resolving this issue.
While this is unfortunate it isn't uncommon for aircraft and especially helicopters to develop structural cracks.
The helicopters are brand new, and already they are cracking? What were they made out of; toilet paper?
This cracking is an on going issue even in the previous Navel helicopters. There maybe an metallurgy issue here in not having the properties to withstand the constant vibration. Can the metal formula be changed to increase the durability of such extreme vibration. Otherwise the "PATCH WORK" will also fail in time.
Korea is going up and up whereas Canada is going down and down every year, eventually out of the world's best top 10.. What a shameless constitutional monarchy system's incompetence this is! Go Republic, and make the Canada great! 💓
Just weld them and keep going.
Should have built your own took a seaking and all the experience we had and modernized it built in canada by Canada with a few parts from allies. Stop dumping money in for profit arms companies we habe the tech and the know how in canada. Its time to male canadas military industry Canadian
Absolutely
No we should purchase off the shelf helicopters that all our allies (namely America) uses. The majority of the cyclones problems come from trying to go it alone.
Just curious,
Will Google if nobody could give answer ,
How many cyclones helicopters are in service around the world ?
I just hope there's more than 230 in service , otherwise, they are customized like a Bugatti.
This comment isn't even coherent
@@enzoh7763 Canada owns all 23 of them we are planning on purchasing 28 total.
We can work on all weak points. Plus. We can make it better than prior/previous.😊
Thanks for your carings and also sharings.
Your friend and admirer,
Phon Pheir 😊
I think let's better for Canada to stop buying crap from the US in start making Are on helicopters We do have the technical skills to do that. And also or aircraft
Bombardier could not even fulfill the subway contract for Toronto.
So we put a Sikorsky employee ie CEO on each flight .......
Omg i thought crack as if drugs bruh
Crapy Canadian military equipment. Ya don’t ya. Par for the course
Software problems and cracks already....yeah....they'll last 40 years. 🚁 🤣
Reminds me of our submarines purchase. The helicopters are supposed to have a 25 year service life and are falling apart after only 3 years.
@@bcanuck
That's kind of good news ,
We've more aircraft mechanics and technician on full employment.
@@bcanuck The Sea Kings were supposed to have a 25 year life....and were almost 60 when replaced....and the West Edmonton Mall has has a more serviceable submarine.
Canada should give me one of those helicopters
You and I could not afford to run it for 2 hours. People driving their Honda Civic or Corvette C8 have no understanding of what it takes to buy one of these, maintain it, and fuel it. While folks may be critical of the government & CF they have no idea of the training involved before you can enter this aircraft. Even with intense training accidents happen. Military aircraft, even old ones, are so far beyond the everyday experience of Canadians driving their cars or pleasure boats.
Replace the defense minister. It's stupid how Canadian army is sooooo weak.
The minister should be Canadian not Indian.
Wake up Canada.
Gee an EPM (Equipment Procurement Management) that can't find it's &ss from its face... what a *New* thing for Canada!!! Hey..what province are the senior leadership from??? oh I mean.. what "Nation..within a nation"??? ..better send those contracts to QC!!!! who knows what would happen if you didn't!!!
When a "Cracked Government" buys for the army... I wouldn't expect anything otherwise lol
Your references to government are from your political bias. If this is in fact a metallurgy issue a Conservative government will have the same problem. It may be an all aircraft issue. Somehow we need to address the issue at hand without blaming right, middle or left wing.
Send them back replace with a different company
CNN New.
BBC news.
Euro New.
RT New.
Dubai Media Incorporated.
Should of bought the Merlin?🇬🇧💕🇨🇦
too many highly paid officers running the "good idea ponzi scheme squad" to promote each other... mean while we are lacking lesser paid technicians that actually do the work that officers take credit for.
need less chiefs and more Indians..
It's easy to speak of procurement from the armchair. We will not know for years if this is a one off or if other problems will arise within the Cyclone as it ages. I'm reminded of what the media shared concerning the F-111 during the Vietnam War. Later on the F-111 was touted as a great aircraft by the Americans and Australians. I can only conclude they got the bugs out and otherwise it was a great aircraft. It's hard to buy a sure thing and these things are complex, the Cormorant was supposed to be more perfected and CF have lost at least 2 on the East Coast. I do not know about the West Coast. I suspect, that like everything else, procurement people deal with limitations and with inside information we will never know.
Give them to the Talibans . They don't have those yet . With the 10 billions from the US they can repair them
Old helicopters equipment
The cyclone is just over 10 years old lol
Wait are you serious? No way! I honestly dont believe this, canada has a military??
Well when the Canadian Government and Military companies are to busy giving armoured vehicles and weapons to Saudi Arabia to cause massacres and terror in Yemen, this is what happens. Those involved are responsible for the starvation and misery in that country.
Hire Better R&D team
Or Buy From USA
The helicopter is American
This would not be happening if they did not leave all the other choppers or other military weapon in foren land.
Wink Wink
Like a metaphor for Kanada
lol i was looking for canada helis for ravenfiled
Swell. Canadian forces
Junk
Oh Canadaaa....
Ohhhh nooooo a small crackkk... noooooo...only if there was something that could fix it omg noooo wow ... a small crack that i can weld with my eyes closed omg nooo lets put it on the news...
Ah yes because more cracks totally won’t appear let’s just treat the symptoms not the underlying problem
Why do you Canadians even care you're going to be just like Australia one big prison.
Lol what
Give up Canada you couldn't even beat 6 year old boy scouts with your arm forces
Maybe beat me. But Canada has JTF2, which is like the British SAS.
Steve Wallis and crazy neighbor will fix that
After a few step twos lol
@@Pswizz0 Right
Its US product.
So is gun violence. At least that generally stays on their side of the border.
The US got you😉 Why need helicopters if all the citizens willingly disarmed themselves tho?
And as a neutral country Budd? We don't see the need eh?
Kunnoor helicopter crash.
The India helicopter was built by Kazan in Russia. These are built by Sykorsky in the US.