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Cleaning Black Powder Rifles and Cartridges
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In this video Eric goes over his process for cleaning black powder brass cartridges as well as their associated rifles. Stay tuned, much more on the wway.
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I use boiling water from the kettle when cleaning black powder due to the fact that the heat causes the water to evaporate in the barrel and action. You just have to use thick gloves or a cloth to hold the barrel due to the heat. The barrel is usually to hot to touch for about 10 minutes afterwards. I have found that there is no residual water on the weapon or in the barrel after I have finished and before oiling the firearm.
for my 12 gauge Magtech Brass I rinse em in hot water with dish soap then hot water and ballistol mix (moose milk) after I rinse em very well again and hit it with another rinse of hot water/dish soap and vinegar mix. Lastly I dry em out then clean the inside with the big swabs or paper towel on a dowel.
Works great and I'm left extremely satisfied!
That is pure perfection in a classic firearm, still able to provide food for the table, and will more than likely with care and pride of ownership, outlast anything of plastic from the getting store, even the sling is one I would like to have. Imagine the years of great memories this firearm has provided for those who possessed it.
The hot water and vinegar works great on cartridges but never use it to clean your guns, I learned that it strips bluing really quick from first-hand experience
Another good black powder video. I know these aren't that popular as opposed to your other videos but I very very much appreciate them. Thanks to you I got hooked on reloading and made my way all the way to 11mm mauser.
Thanks to you I've worked up the courage to fix up and collect old antiques and make them serviceable again. Keep up the fantastic work Erick.
I load 45 Colt cartridges with black powder, thanks for the video giving info on cleaning, I like the idea of viniger and water while shooting a lot at the range. Thanks.
This is kinda like the “Bob Ross Show” of Rifle cleaning! It’s kinda relaxing to watch! LOL
I like how this was released the day i buy my first blackpowder gun. For those who care its a zulu shotgun.
That moment your neighbar sings zulu warrior and shaman curse songs and you grab your Boer War era Martini Henry 🤣🤣🤣
how did the soldiers keep their muskets from rusting during the revolution?
That's what I want to know. I know we tend to over or under clean out guns these days, I've seen a lot of both in the army and by friends. I have zero experience with bp and only know there is a little more labor involved but how much more is necessary and how much is overkill. Like does oil alone after shooting at least keep it from rusting.
The way I clean my .50 Hawken... hot, soapy water and whatever oil or lube they could find, if it wasn't going to be used right away. Alcohol dries a wet bore pretty fast.
Instead on using a sink i use a cleaning rod, jag and patch with a bucket of water and soap. Stick one end in the bucket and use the rod jag and patch and run it up and down. It scrubs the barrel plus brings the water up like a siphon. Works great.
Yes, I was going to say this. Glad I read comments 1st. Works the best, IMHO, for scoped inlines. I don't have to take the scope off or worry about rezeroing.
30-some years ago my dad taught me to clean his old percussion lock muzzleloaders with this method. Pull the nipple and stick the breech end in a bucket with hot water, a little dawn soap, and a bit of windex. Pump a rod up and down through there with a patch and the crud comes right out.
a cotton mop works better than a jag. it can't get lost.
@@bunkstagner298 Never lost a wet patch before as long as youre using the proper size jag.
I just bought some blackpowder gear yesterday. Perfect timing!
Actually, in Germany Ballistol is even graded "food safe"! No harm to your skin as well. I consider it to be the most universal oil there is.
In 10 years they'll discover it's been slowly killing everyone
They would probably have discoverd it by now since its been around since like 1905 :)
Two thumbs up. Moose Milk!!!
I use (0% water and 10% ballistol mix for wiping my black powder rifle between shots when using conicals, but shooting round ball I can shoot all day long without wiping the bore at all. The secret is a mix of 99% water with a drop of dishsoap. submerge the shooting patch, sling off the dripping, and load and shoot. I clean my guns mainly with hot soapy water and lube all the metal surfaces with 100% ballistol. This stuff is amazing and been around for a century. If it isn't broke, don't fix it.
Thanks for the knowledge Eric and Chad. As always keep up the awesome content.
Thanks a lot man !!! I was looking for proper information on cleaning antique BP guns after shooting for a long time !
I've got an Italian made replica Remington 1857 New Army. Fun to shoot. The instructions that came with that say to wash with hot soapy water and then bake the metal parts in the oven. At a Rev War reenactment I watched a guy do field cleaning by opening up the chamber and washing it out with a water hose. What came out was black mud. Obviously he did more at home.
I'll have to agree with you, Eric. Black powder firearms are so rewarding. I have a 54 cal blunderbuss and I took it with me dove hunting as a backup with my 870. I was missing dove all evening but I managed to bag a dove with that blunderbuss. To see that dove hit the ground behind that clue of smoke was just awesome.
Yep. Good lesson. Trapddoor going to need these cleaning skills.
These are the type of videos I'm subscribed to IV8888 for.
Ballistol! I love it! I use ot for everything around the house and on my guns :)
Ooo, I’ve been waiting for a vid like this.
I got an easy easy method I use. Take the hose preferably with an attachment or use your thumb to spray down the whole inside and out with lots of water. It’s particularly effective if you have a revolver with cylinder remover or inline with the breech plug. After the fouling is gone you spray it down with ballistol. The ballistol will emulsify with the water abd prevent rust as it dries. Just get the ballistol on it right after you remove excess water. Alternatively you could dry it completely and use an oil.
Funny this comes out the week i bought my first black powder rifle. A newer reproduction hawkins side lock. Nice wood on it and has patch holder in the butt. It's cool haven't shot it yet
Just want to say thanks. I'm in Australia and recently bought a black powder musket and really I have no clue how to clean it.
King_Kiff can you get a musket on a standard cat A&B license or is it a different license like a collectors or something?
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I will most likely never clean a black powder rifle, but I watched it all the same. Love these old gun vids!
Like the Bob Ross of cleaning firearms
For the brass use a Thumblers tumbler or a cheap Harbor Freight rock tumbler with hand dish detergent and a little fine silica sand with hot water. Hand rinse each case to get the sand out, use compressed air to blow dry and you're done
Pyrodex is pretty messy too, it can cause rust quickly. I use mixture of Simple Green, Murphy's Oil soap and Water first. Then clean as usual.
New to your channel, I like your to the point and non emotional way of explaining things compared to other "gun channels".
It gives a good insight in the matter opposed to the gunslinger channels with their "funny" video's,
JB from the Netherlands
I work with some guys who are into black powder. It's too much work for me, however. I give thanks for the advent of smoke-less.
Would like to see a DPMS oracle AR-10 meltdown video, because it is a bargain gun. Also great videos I liked the modern powder test in a black powder gun.
Our armorer kept carbon tetrachloride for us to clean our M16s after field exercises and trips to the firing range. It really got all the black residue off, including the bolt and the firing pin.
Sadly Carbon Tetrachloride was pulled off the US commercial market 5 decades ago.
for a reason, it is highly poisonous, major cancer risk, liver damaging, also a huge water pollutant and destroys the ozon layer of the earth
This was in Germany in the 1970s.
I could barely get some dirty rags to use from my armorer
I only shoot muzzle loaders with real black powder and I only use black powder guns. I am not knocking modern guns, I just like the old ways of doing things. I really enjoy cleaning my guns as well. They can be just as accurate as center fire guns, with a lot of patience and experimentation. I shoot a 1 inch group, @ 50 yards, with my Lyman Great Plains with a precise wet patch and round ball. My rifle likes 60 grains of Goex, .015 wet patch, and a .498 ball.
I just recently started shooting a 150-year old egyptian rolling block. I'm glad I've been cleaning it properly. Maybe It'll last another 150 years.
Thank God for Paul Vieille
Love the videos
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The same can be used to clean A firearm after the use of mercuric primers which if not removed will the same dtrement as black powder. Hot watwer and A strong laundry soap. If these chemicals are not removed and you apply oil it traps the bad stuff and it pits anything it touches.
Yes been wanying this for a while now all we need is an auto 5 and model 8/81 video and a video on the BP rifle eric had getting worked on at c&rsenal
The non-aerosol Ballistol, cut 10 to 1 with water, works really well.
Really enjoyed this, great video.
Chemically speaking, the residue contains in a large part, potassium sulfide produced when the potassium nitrate reacts with sulfur in combustion. When it reacts with acetic acid in vinegar, it dissolves and releases hydrogen sulfide gas which explains the stink.
*Please do a video on how to bring your own gun into the store. i.e not loaded, zip tied slide open, where to point, how to hand a gun to each other, etc..*
Very informative and useful information, How about a video on cleaning cap and ball revolvers. I seem to struggle with mine, I get them clean but it takes forever
I like to use Ed's Red instead of balistol just cause I can make a gallon for maybe $20 and it leaves some oil on everything.
I would love to see a vid where you compare the M39 to the K31 and pick a winner or your favorite rifle.
this was very helpful. thanks guys
The bob ross of gun cleaning
I would have done a rinse with baking soda to neutralize the vinegar acid. Then rinse. I am interested in seeing how you clean a Martini Henry. I use a rubber hose at the breech end to rinse it, but you may have a different technique.
S-100 or simple green in a six liter ultrasonic cleaner. I think I can fit 80 rounds or so of Martini brass and over 100 45-70 brass in it. Set the time and temp and come back later.
Case cleaning? Yeah, a quick rinse with hot soapy water to get the bulk of the fouling out, then into the SSTL media tumbler to get them factory new shiny and clean.
Can you do one on a BP Pistol - like the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44-Caliber Black Powder Revolver. Also not having a Air Compressor, is a can Air Duster that is used in electronic ok to use? You see then for sale in drug stores great for cleaning out Laptops Computers
Iraq veteran 8888 cool video very interesting as always love your handles on cupboard behind you dude did you make em ? Stay safe greetings from UK England Essex near London👌💪🐺🐾💕
Liked it! Thanks for the tip.
Thank you a lesson I really needed
Just bought a Traditions thunderbolt for 50$ Saturday. Needs some work though
Any reason why you would want to do this instead wet tumbling brass?
Works it the same with smith carbines?
They`d be interesting for a whole video.
A water vinegar mix also does wonders for cleaning rusty cast iron......;)
Has anybody tried an ultrasonic cleaner?
Getting one large enough to take even a handgun is going to cost a lot.
Yeah I use an ultrasonic cleaner for my .577/450 MH brass, works a treat!
I always remove my barrels and use a bathtub. How tater and a brush. Then oil it down. Now the cases I clean but not that well. Hope they are ok. They are 577/450 cases and they are expensive.
I have just recently bought a CVA Frontier Hunter .54 percussion rifle from a pawn shop, would the vinegar and hot water be a good pre cleaner down the barrel?
I put vinegar and water in a humidifier turn on for 5 to 8 minutes to clean the calcium off then empty and you have cleaned the humidifier.
there is some beautiful wood on that double.
Windex with hot water and Dawn. the Windex has ammonia that helps greatly
Is there a reason black powder revolvers come with both 3mm and 10mm lubed swabs?
Serious question about the cases- why not wet tumble them after decapping?
Do a 5 guns for the division
what do you think of G-96 gun treatment ?
I was wondering and looking for the answer to this question. How did the people using black powder for hundreds of years clean and keep their arms in good shape and function with NO access to cleaning products while out on their own for years? Hot campfire water and animal grease?
Thank God for smokeless powder
For real haha
Could you boys make a top 5 guns for Canadians?
For some reason, when I try to play your video, I keep getting "No Connection" on it, but can play other videos no problem.
romulus463 Same here. There's definitely something wrong with this video.
It will not play for me. Is Google pissed?
I keep having to restart the video
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I tried restarting the vid but no go
Zero problems here.
Can y’all do a review on ceratec’s 80% builds?
Always use Ballistol. It's the best. Use it for all my guns.
Nice ..... Hello from South Carolina
Christopher Ch how’s the weather?
Thanks so much!
Bob ross of guns
why don't you resize the cases ?
would the vinegar solution work just as well in an ultrasonic?
vinegar also great for killing weeds
Thanks, the only firearm that doesn't like Ballistol, is my 10/22.
Im curious how cheap you can get one of those deep sinks.
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Eric,
Hope you guys are doing OK by hurricane Florence.
Ive got a Pedersoli Kentucky Long Rifle. When they pined the barrel in, they used drill rod, not wedge pins. Any suggestions beyond leave it in the stock? I can't see a way of getting the barrel out for regular maintenance without damaging the stock. Been cleaning with balistol and water as best as I can.
I use dawn with hot water for my BP guns
Thanks for all the videos, been watching for a while now. I have a question: I havent had any formal shooting training and I am cross eye dominant, right handed. Should I just learn to adapt and shoot lefty or somehow shoot righty?
I have the same issue. Some people are able to “retrain” their dominant eye to match their handedness, but I’ve never seriously tried. I shoot hand guns right handed without an issue, but long guns I simply shoot left handed. I have to be aware of brass ejection in auto loaders, but that is better than trying to get your face across the top of the stock on a high power or scoped rifle to get a proper sight picture. Working a bolt action cross handed is a bit of a challenge, but more than manageable in any type of shooting I do. I’ve shot percussion black powder both ways, I would not shoot a flintlock “wrong handed”.
Those cartridge cabinet handles though...
Do a any shotgun meltdown
I love to shoot the holy black, but real life doesn't always allow for time to clean up. I end up shooting the AR-15 more often. That said, dropping 535 grn homemade lead pills on to a steel buffalo at 1000 yds with my Sharps is kick ass fun.
Is it possible to substitite the LPS3 for anything other ? It's not available in Europe I think :-/
Vinager is acidic and will clean copper and brass on contact !
first soak the cases in vinegar for 10 minutes then put them in the top rack of your dish washer
Careful saying gunsmith not armorer around Mark from C&NRsenal 😂
My enfield reproduction has seen nothing but hot soapy water to clean. Then a boiling water rinse. It will heat dry itself. For oil, just olive oil. The bore looks just like it did in 1987. I've put tons of blanks and live rounds through it.
Had a Hawkins 50 cal, loved shooting it, hated cleaning it, got so disgusted the 1st time I just removed the barrel from the stock and climbed in the bathtub with it, the water looked like ink after a couple of minutes
hello from a rest stop somewhere in the world, lemme get some sleep man. comment #6
I thought I was watching myself cleaning these. I do the"white glove" test myself
We need a g3 meltdown!
Less than a minute in and he says to clean it with water. So many people don’t understand that. Everyone thinks water will destroy the gun. My dad refuses to clean his black powder gun with water. No wonder it would barely fire when we took it out shooting
someone needs to invent a non corrosive black powder substitute.