Miss South Africa Pageant: The Truth Behind the Drama

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
  • Patriots are very angered by the current miss South Africa top candidate who has foreign parents and how her identity is questioned. we witness this happening recently for miss South Africa 2023 where one of the candidates has a parent from Malawi. in this case the candidate have both parents from outside the country. find out more on this video.

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  • @obedthemagnificent7128
    @obedthemagnificent7128 2 місяці тому +207

    I have no problem with her being a foregner and using her name. Now the issue is that her Nigerian people who lack humility and silence have started saying saying "Nigerians are the best everywhere they" "representing Nigeria" "Nigerians excel everywhere" "Nigeria is proud of you". She has not won and they have already made this about Nigeria and Nigerians. If she wins we will never hear the end of it and if she wins an international competition we can never have that pride as a country because the Nigerian umbrella will be all over her and we can't claim her victory. Her victory can never be a South African victory. With Mellisa and the Asian lady that could be a South African victory. However with Chidima it's a messy situation

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  2 місяці тому +51

      I hate the arrogance in them and I get your point on this one.

    • @nandi_m04
      @nandi_m04 2 місяці тому +44

      To add on to that, If she loses there will be an uproar of how "South africa is Xenophobic" and we don't "love our Africans brothers and Sisters" and more hateful and damaging thing which will start another Xenophobic war on BOTH ends. (I hate when people call ou South Africans Xenophobic whilst they're being Xenophobic and they guiltrip any S.African when being called out by one)

    • @user-kq8it6dz5p
      @user-kq8it6dz5p 2 місяці тому +20

      True Nigerians have started howling already

    • @austinifeanyi6049
      @austinifeanyi6049 2 місяці тому +9

      Is bryoni south African???or even African
      Disqualify her all you want she is a star and a beacon and that can't change

    • @austinifeanyi6049
      @austinifeanyi6049 2 місяці тому +2

      Wow I guess south African are really humble
      U joke surely 😂

  • @user-od1hc9kp4g
    @user-od1hc9kp4g Місяць тому +17

    There is a problem with the organizers and judges this must be investigated

    • @luzukombuqu4976
      @luzukombuqu4976 Місяць тому +1

      Maybe they were given the brown envelope 😂😂😂

    • @bathenebuthelezi1614
      @bathenebuthelezi1614 Місяць тому +1

      Not maybe. Brown envelope was given 😂😂

  • @Girlhood_Sisterhood
    @Girlhood_Sisterhood 2 місяці тому +82

    Non of her parents are from South Africa. Her mom is Mozambican 🇲🇿 and her dad is Nigerian. No South African blood! Not even a single South African name. She will not win; even Veena from Thailand who is Indian tried 3 times and never won.
    Also do you guys think Nigerians would even offer such an opportunity to girl by the name of Mbali Khumalo who stays in Nigeria? 🇳🇬 never

    • @User.777.1
      @User.777.1 2 місяці тому +11

      She have no right to enter

    • @Girlhood_Sisterhood
      @Girlhood_Sisterhood 2 місяці тому +4

      @@User.777.1 exactly! Please let’s commenting on the Miss SA page about this issue

    • @CONE57CONE57
      @CONE57CONE57 2 місяці тому +4

      But what about Bryoni Govendor who’s clearly a full blooded Indian who represented SA twice now

    • @Girlhood_Sisterhood
      @Girlhood_Sisterhood 2 місяці тому +10

      @@CONE57CONE57 Bryoni's is a South African through & through. Both her parents are born & bred here. Indians were brought to SA between 1860 & 1911 by British colonisers. The SA Indian population is set to be the largest outside of the their mother country India.

    • @JacePillay
      @JacePillay 2 місяці тому

      Are you South African because most South Africans know that Indians are apart of the South African community. And South African Indians have lived here for generations and do not associate with India​@@CONE57CONE57

  • @mthokozisilanga4497
    @mthokozisilanga4497 2 місяці тому +22

    So which is the truth, Sowetan or Capetonian and why the contradition? IDs, we know that they are bought.

  • @butterygold
    @butterygold 2 місяці тому +54

    Funny that she even claims to be from Cape Town. This type of misrepresentation kills our patriotism.

    • @user-tu9vl7gs4m
      @user-tu9vl7gs4m 2 місяці тому

      @@butterygold Nigerians go around spoiling their names
      South Africa doesn't need Nigeria fake help. They lie and can poison you.

    • @lovedlover2667
      @lovedlover2667 Місяць тому +2

      Eish hence she ain't a SAn

    • @user-tu9vl7gs4m
      @user-tu9vl7gs4m Місяць тому

      @@butterygold very much

    • @ntsako_nxu
      @ntsako_nxu Місяць тому +7

      lol from Soweto to CPT hai 😂😂😂ugirl

    • @nomsapxilongo9984
      @nomsapxilongo9984 Місяць тому +1

      🤣🤣

  • @Motswako
    @Motswako 2 місяці тому +47

    South African ID can be obtained fraudulently. How did she get her documentation if her mom is salon owner and her father …. On what visa did they come to this country. Clearly her documentation has been fraudulently obtained. Asiyekini ukulhisa ngeSouth Africa in the name of ubuntu

    • @fmk7941
      @fmk7941 Місяць тому +6

      You’d be celebrating her and not questioning her documents if she were white.

    • @bellocornelius1273
      @bellocornelius1273 Місяць тому

      @@fmk7941 do you get it they are sh**ty people

    • @beatricebandeira3066
      @beatricebandeira3066 Місяць тому

      ​@@fmk7941you ppl like to gaslight south Africans why can't she respect her fathers country or her mother's ?

    • @Karmaknowseveryadress
      @Karmaknowseveryadress Місяць тому

      ​@@fmk7941Now is not about white,we fout with whites more than 30 yrs till we make peace,so leave us to do whats our rights allowed us to do

    • @sugarzblossom8168
      @sugarzblossom8168 Місяць тому

      Bold claims

  • @monicamanzi8400
    @monicamanzi8400 Місяць тому +5

    why is her mom so quiet, where is she to clear this controversy

    • @Peachcobler22
      @Peachcobler22 Місяць тому +1

      All these people advocating for her don't want to answer that question. Instead they say what about whites and indians 😂😂😂 Trying to gaslight us about SA history.

    • @ntombizodwaxheko1727
      @ntombizodwaxheko1727 Місяць тому

      Probably because she got her documents fraudulently.IDs are sold at homeaffairs.

  • @richardmonareng4315
    @richardmonareng4315 Місяць тому +7

    She entered Miss South Africa with a froudulant ID😢😢😢😢😢

    • @henryapples
      @henryapples Місяць тому

      You hit the nail on the head...the Father is I think illegal in the country

  • @mamaumomalematsa7365
    @mamaumomalematsa7365 2 місяці тому +53

    She needs to be disqualified
    Let the lady compete at Nigeria

    • @valenciafass4703
      @valenciafass4703 2 місяці тому +3

      My question is which South African culture is she representing? I mean her name alone is not even ...ugh😢

    • @sugarzblossom8168
      @sugarzblossom8168 Місяць тому

      ​@@valenciafass4703probably the one she grew up with

    • @sugarzblossom8168
      @sugarzblossom8168 Місяць тому +1

      seems people keep forgetting to mention Mozambique

    • @mcdonald1821
      @mcdonald1821 Місяць тому

      Hour loss. Your bl@ck girls are not as beautiful.

  • @user-xb5xv2wu2t
    @user-xb5xv2wu2t 2 місяці тому +68

    I get she was born in SA and her parents in Africa, but its the lie for me. I am sorry if you lie about your background like that, just to finesse the rules. That itself should be grounds for disqualification. Yes SA is a melting pot of all sorts of humans who come from all over the world. But suxoka mntase ha ah that is unethical and just wrong...

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  2 місяці тому +11

      The lie is just not doing it for me 🤣🤣

    • @aarongunnz9513
      @aarongunnz9513 2 місяці тому

      Her parents bribed home affairs officials to be here

    • @henryapples
      @henryapples Місяць тому

      How could she have been born here when her dad only came here in 2010

    • @user-xb5xv2wu2t
      @user-xb5xv2wu2t Місяць тому

      @@henryapples Those new revelations came out recently, I am sure you noticed this comment was made a month ago Henry.

  • @gingertwala8474
    @gingertwala8474 2 місяці тому +26

    Each year this pageant is embroiled in some in something sticky..My point though is that yes we're a melting pot of cultures but pivotally this contest' origins was to cater for SA women.

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  2 місяці тому +1

      I get your point fully

    • @gingertwala8474
      @gingertwala8474 2 місяці тому

      @@thecafebyk & welcome back baby😉

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  2 місяці тому

      Thank you so much

    • @rotimikayode1072
      @rotimikayode1072 Місяць тому

      ​@@thecafebykEvery country of the world has valid and bonafide citizens with foreign descents. You South Africans need a re-orientation on this matter. No citizen should be denied their civil rights on the basis of ethnicity. It is deplorable and morally reprehensible.

  • @Blacklist_Entertainment
    @Blacklist_Entertainment 2 місяці тому +47

    MissSA is loosing its value in society

    • @nompumelelomdodana3867
      @nompumelelomdodana3867 Місяць тому +5

      Big time

    • @simiyurobert6144
      @simiyurobert6144 Місяць тому

      Lol.. U give her more opportunities.. While u make ua country looks like doom as we know black S.A are primitive

    • @bathenebuthelezi1614
      @bathenebuthelezi1614 Місяць тому +2

      Very true

    • @aarongunnz9513
      @aarongunnz9513 Місяць тому +2

      Especially by changing the rules. Back then, they didn't allow mothers and married women and divorcee.

    • @bathenebuthelezi1614
      @bathenebuthelezi1614 Місяць тому

      @aarongunnz9513 so they are teaching girls to have kids are young age and marry young and them get divorced......really they are messing uo the society with this unnecessary changes

  • @mimmiekgaditse1517
    @mimmiekgaditse1517 2 місяці тому +66

    The problem is not her blackness but her nationality. We have a strained relationship with Nigeria. No one is complaining about her Mozambican side. Nigerians attacked our Tyla when she wom the Grammy over their artists. They would never allow a South African to win Miss Nigeria.

    • @user-tu9vl7gs4m
      @user-tu9vl7gs4m 2 місяці тому

      @@mimmiekgaditse1517 Nigerians are very quick in reacting whatever way. The way they kicked out Ghanaians in Nigeria it was sad and told them GHANA MUST GO, this is what we call KARMA. Even a child born of Nigerian lies and is arrogant. Why does she not join beauty pageant of Nigeria? With our beauty pageant you need to relate to our rural areas. You are only looking at the money, you need to look at the moral. There are lies already that follow you

    • @fadielbenjamin159
      @fadielbenjamin159 Місяць тому

      They're still attacking Tyla along with African Americans and some other West Africans

    • @SingularityDeflatory-xx1jw
      @SingularityDeflatory-xx1jw Місяць тому +7

      A Nigerian south African contested for miss universe Nigeria last year and placed in the top 5, miss Lagos. This year she contested for miss world south Africa too. Nobody made it an issue, y'all are just problematic.

    • @fmk7941
      @fmk7941 Місяць тому

      Says who? Your xenophobic brain?

    • @fadielbenjamin159
      @fadielbenjamin159 Місяць тому +4

      @@SingularityDeflatory-xx1jw No. The issue is her identity. She's Igbo, we don't have an Igbo tribe here. So who will she represent at Miss Universe? Igbo's or Nigerians. Hence, she can't be Miss South Africa

  • @nontsikelelonoruwanahealth8035
    @nontsikelelonoruwanahealth8035 2 місяці тому +67

    She must be disqualified and a South African must win.

    • @iameze_1
      @iameze_1 2 місяці тому +1

      You are very useless

    • @Kaalon_luxury
      @Kaalon_luxury 2 місяці тому +5

      Hello we’re in 2024

    • @Tumi_nn
      @Tumi_nn 2 місяці тому

      This is crazy because South Africans are always “occupying space” on America’s Got Talent, The voice China, the X-Factor UK, y’all are just weird man

    • @MIA-fq1di
      @MIA-fq1di 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@Kaalon_luxuryAnd???

    • @divineceleste.m
      @divineceleste.m 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@Kaalon_luxury 😂😂 So??

  • @africamos7408
    @africamos7408 2 місяці тому +51

    Obviously if she win and manage to win internationally, Nigeria will say she represents Nigeria not SA so she need to be disqualified

    • @aarongunnz9513
      @aarongunnz9513 2 місяці тому +1

      😅😂😅😂
      Ja neh

    • @sugarzblossom8168
      @sugarzblossom8168 Місяць тому

      So what?

    • @sugarzblossom8168
      @sugarzblossom8168 Місяць тому +1

      Sounds like just another excuse

    • @nkazimulondlovu8056
      @nkazimulondlovu8056 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@sugarzblossom8168No excuse , its our country bro what excuses youre talking about

    • @lawsonkitty3747
      @lawsonkitty3747 Місяць тому +2

      i hope you guys realise she was born and bred in SA and whatever Nigerians are doing is none of her business.

  • @siyamcelabewana6099
    @siyamcelabewana6099 2 місяці тому +48

    She might be born in South Africa, but she is definitely not a South African with that kind of a name. She must go to her father's home country and represent her people.

    • @yanash100
      @yanash100 2 місяці тому +2

      And u Should go back to EC

    • @aarongunnz9513
      @aarongunnz9513 2 місяці тому +4

      😅😂😅😂
      South Africa won't be able to claim her
      Nigeria will make noise

    • @yummydishes2279
      @yummydishes2279 Місяць тому

      Do your people change their name when applying for citizenship in the UK or US?
      Bunch of jokers

    • @sugarzblossom8168
      @sugarzblossom8168 Місяць тому +1

      Why would she move away from the place she grew up?

    • @Chinekewhowwww
      @Chinekewhowwww Місяць тому +2

      ​@@yanash100but EC is in South Africa

  • @igshaanlewis3095
    @igshaanlewis3095 2 місяці тому +38

    SHE MUST BE DISQUALIFIED IMMEDIATELY

    • @benedictusman1160
      @benedictusman1160 Місяць тому +1

      On what grounds?

    • @gentlesoul9046
      @gentlesoul9046 Місяць тому

      ​@shiningjerry186She a fraud simple and that Chinese.

    • @skycairo7540
      @skycairo7540 Місяць тому

      @@benedictusman1160I don’t remember any miss Nigeria who is South African she will not win anyways

    • @mcdonald1821
      @mcdonald1821 Місяць тому +1

      She has already made history

  • @nelzg5819
    @nelzg5819 Місяць тому +25

    There needs to be a rule that u must be the third generation to be born in south africa and have south African blood to be a south african. Cause this situation is a mess. She is a south african born nigerian. That means she obtained citizenship through paperwork but she is not a south african ethnically or by blood therefore we ask that she be disqualified so we can be represented by a true south african

    • @Ade93111
      @Ade93111 Місяць тому

      Interesting. So, the fact that her mum is South African still doesn't count?

    • @tiktokandall8679
      @tiktokandall8679 Місяць тому +3

      What about the Chinese, Indian, and the coloniser daughter so they are qualified to contest but your fellow African that look exactly like you same hair texture same skin colour is not qualify just because of the hate you have for her nationality can you listen to yourself?

    • @lawsonkitty3747
      @lawsonkitty3747 Місяць тому +1

      she isn't a true south african but she was born and bred in SA. sad

    • @lebzamodiakgotla7593
      @lebzamodiakgotla7593 Місяць тому +1

      Who told you her mum is south African?

    • @lebzamodiakgotla7593
      @lebzamodiakgotla7593 Місяць тому +1

      Who told you her mum is south African

  • @rosekg2716
    @rosekg2716 2 місяці тому +35

    She must represent Nigeria not my country girl bye

    • @mafrica8105
      @mafrica8105 Місяць тому +2

      It is not your country, you just live there as a citizen 😅😅😅😅

    • @benjaminmangena9437
      @benjaminmangena9437 Місяць тому

      @@rosekg2716 dya have a country. Open books and you will be fine

    • @omuntu3363
      @omuntu3363 Місяць тому

      WHAT COUNTRY, THAT COLONIAL CONSTRUCT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE ARE AS AFRICANS!!!

    • @zanelekhumalo3569
      @zanelekhumalo3569 Місяць тому

      Well said

  • @user-uq8kb4xp4f
    @user-uq8kb4xp4f 2 місяці тому +25

    She does not represent me and other black South African women. Nobuhle Langa is our Miss SA. ...lets make sure !!
    We are being displaced.

    • @tanialouw8246
      @tanialouw8246 Місяць тому +1

      @user-uq8kb4xp4f that's dumb because it's not about blackness.there are many different cultures and races in SA.for me the problem is her patriotism what with Nigerian and Mozambican flags with no SA flag in sight.what an insult to the country u propose to represent.so is she just using us to get ahead then claim her parents roots because that would NOT be fair to some other legitimately aspiring Miss SA.

  • @Tumi_nn
    @Tumi_nn 2 місяці тому +17

    But y’all ALWAYS wanna claim Nara Smith who doesn’t even give a sh!t about y’all and never acknowledged SA.

    • @Girlhood_Sisterhood
      @Girlhood_Sisterhood 2 місяці тому +17

      @@Tumi_nn Nara never wanted to compete for Miss South Africa

    • @tkasiam8322
      @tkasiam8322 2 місяці тому +4

      Hei Tumi,kawusiyeke please 😂

    • @buyimncube2588
      @buyimncube2588 2 місяці тому +2

      Mthathe phela😂

    • @fadielbenjamin159
      @fadielbenjamin159 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Girlhood_Sisterhood😂😂😂

    • @nazikay1340
      @nazikay1340 Місяць тому +1

      u gona take social media thing and compare it with official miss SA

  • @MariamMothobi
    @MariamMothobi Місяць тому +29

    Would a South African girl go contest in Nigeria and claim to represent south Africa? Would the Giants of Africa allow that😮?.

    • @uchechiuwanaka
      @uchechiuwanaka Місяць тому

      😅

    • @lawsonkitty3747
      @lawsonkitty3747 Місяць тому +3

      if she grew up in Nigeria all her life. we are not xenophobic remember

    • @ntagu5744
      @ntagu5744 Місяць тому

      This happens all over the world. just use google.

    • @nazikay1340
      @nazikay1340 Місяць тому +3

      Thing is no South African want to grow in Nigeria, its the other way round

    • @lawsonkitty3747
      @lawsonkitty3747 Місяць тому +1

      @@nazikay1340 girl, there are many over here so stfu with your xenophobic double standards

  • @Impiloiscam
    @Impiloiscam Місяць тому +8

    It's not about her race. This is miss South Africa not miss Africa. All those people complaining about whites and Asians, they are citizens by law thou not roots, go and research about citizenship.

    • @omuntu3363
      @omuntu3363 Місяць тому

      South Africa is a disgrace, colonized thinking is keeping the people in

  • @thembekaxipu6961
    @thembekaxipu6961 2 місяці тому +48

    Surname says it all, not of a south adrican origin . So she is a nigerian with SA citizenship,.not a South African. Dont they have Miss nigeria over there? Its like world cup, all players playing in different countries go back to their countries of origion for world cup, upon finishing they go back to the country they are working at

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  2 місяці тому +4

      But the criteria say you must have a valid SA identity document and that's how she was able to enter

    • @NandiMyambo
      @NandiMyambo 2 місяці тому

      crazy saying this but you guys let indians and white people become miss sa what a joke

    • @sellomonama7797
      @sellomonama7797 2 місяці тому

      Nigeria has two participants.

    • @user-xf4mm1iw6s
      @user-xf4mm1iw6s 2 місяці тому +4

      d's girl was born in SA, school in south Africa, she has d right to vote for candidate in south Africa. She has d right to contest.

    • @sellomonama7797
      @sellomonama7797 2 місяці тому +3

      @user-xf4mm1iw6s True. But she is representing the Nigerians who are living in SA. For a person to be accepted in a new country, he or she must adopt the culture of a particular tribe in that country. She must adopt one of their indigenous languages. A black person who can't pause and speak one of the indigenous languages in SA can't represent the country. It's not wrong for the girl to compete. I even wish her luck. However, parents emigrating from their country must encourage their children to learn the languages of their new countries.

  • @RayOfLetsatsi
    @RayOfLetsatsi Місяць тому +20

    She's not culturally South African..

    • @selinab.8611
      @selinab.8611 Місяць тому +1

      But the whites are? We hate our blackness, we rather love our colonizers. Sad

  • @nonhlanhlamaphumulo980
    @nonhlanhlamaphumulo980 Місяць тому +7

    How did her mother get her the south african ID? Daddy did you marry a South African ID or Did you buy it from Home Affairs?
    We need answers. We acknowledge that sge was born here, but not all Immigrants follow the process.
    She lied so many times and that on its own says a lot about her. She can lie to schools, friends but not to South Africa.
    If sge loves her country, she can go enter the pageant khona.

  • @faithMketo
    @faithMketo Місяць тому +6

    Miss South Africa is loosing its value and I'm not watching it again 😮They are making South Africa a laughing stock thanks to the South African organizers 😢😢😢

  • @thembimaseko9600
    @thembimaseko9600 2 місяці тому +30

    It's a big No. Can she speaks one of our black languages?No she must compete in Nigeria.

    • @kemmoneR
      @kemmoneR 2 місяці тому +2

      That has been my problem. Miss SA represents SA, so what is she representing that is of us? What culture? What language?

    • @bellocornelius1273
      @bellocornelius1273 Місяць тому +2

      @@kemmoneRwhat is bryoni and Natasha representing?

    • @bellocornelius1273
      @bellocornelius1273 Місяць тому

      @@mphosa995 hypocrisy that is what I sense she was born to the motherland and looks like a native African emphasis on the native you just say y’all don’t like Nigerians

    • @sugarzblossom8168
      @sugarzblossom8168 Місяць тому +1

      Why Nigeria? Not the country that her other parent is born in?

    • @mcdonald1821
      @mcdonald1821 Місяць тому +1

      Don't you call yourselves rainbow nation? How petty.

  • @user-tu9vl7gs4m
    @user-tu9vl7gs4m 2 місяці тому +19

    DIS QUALIFIED , these are for SOUTH AFRICANS purely. Try NIGERIA PAGEANT. The SA pageant is usually meant for SA so that they can be able to relate to our way of living and our urban areas and who know our REAL way. Nigerians YOU ARE NOT SOUTH AFRICANS , STOP MENDLING

  • @noziphokhumalo4030
    @noziphokhumalo4030 2 місяці тому +10

    Why is her profile full of lies

  • @sivuyilefinca6919
    @sivuyilefinca6919 2 місяці тому +15

    What next President will be foreign

    • @mcdonald1821
      @mcdonald1821 Місяць тому

      For most part of your history, your president has always been foreign. Infact your country's very cores, essence and values are foreign oriented. You are nothing without foreigners.

    • @zanelekhumalo3569
      @zanelekhumalo3569 Місяць тому +1

      Anything is possible in South Africa

  • @noisyhoisy6283
    @noisyhoisy6283 Місяць тому +7

    She’s not South African please

  • @clantis
    @clantis 2 місяці тому +22

    I too don't have a problem with her entering the pageant if she is South African. However, legally or according to law of domicile, one of the parents must be a South African. If I heard correctly, none of her parents are South Africans and this begs the question, how did she become a South African citizen whether by birth or naturalized?

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  2 місяці тому +4

      It's very difficult to say at this stage because no one has come forward to provide valid information about her background and how she qualified to get an ID, including her parents. I also don't think Miss SA does background checks.

    • @rad.steffi
      @rad.steffi 2 місяці тому +3

      From what I know, you can get automatic citizenship if one of your parents are South African. Otherwise you have have to apply for citizenship at 18 if you are born in the country and both your parents are foreign, or if you permanent resident and lived in the country for more than 10 years

    • @aarongunnz9513
      @aarongunnz9513 2 місяці тому +8

      One day we will be having a Nigerian or Zimbabwean as president.

    • @user-xf4mm1iw6s
      @user-xf4mm1iw6s 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@rad.steffi❤. But they don't want to no.

    • @walkwithorr
      @walkwithorr Місяць тому +5

      Lets not forget that back in the day it was easy for them to come and give birth in SA and be given citizeship. That's why we have this problem now. In this era we are woke and examining everything. This we see now screams 'WRONG'. At least one parent must be a SAn. A child takes the identity of their parents. She can compete in Moz or Naija.

  • @trevonkahlis
    @trevonkahlis 2 місяці тому +35

    No this girl doesn't have a South African story, she has a Nigerian and Mozambiquè story not South African story, Black South African girls will not relate to this girl like a Zozibini, she not like us

    • @nelzg5819
      @nelzg5819 Місяць тому +2

      Zozibini represented us well she brought the crown home without the weaves and what have u showcasing true south african beauty. ❤

    • @sugarzblossom8168
      @sugarzblossom8168 Місяць тому +3

      Did she not grow up in South Africa? How well do you think she knows about the countries that her mother and father are from?

    • @JennyGenricks-yc9di
      @JennyGenricks-yc9di Місяць тому

      We are a world in flux. We move , we stay, we deserve rights. Let’s be inclusive

  • @jeromehiralall3336
    @jeromehiralall3336 2 місяці тому +46

    She is so stunning

    • @TapiTTwala
      @TapiTTwala 2 місяці тому +1

      That's all the chocolate you may need!

    • @shopekassie
      @shopekassie 2 місяці тому

      Yes, but Nigerian and Mozambican standards. She is ugly by South African standards.

    • @shopekassie
      @shopekassie Місяць тому

      I like her foxy skunky eyes and her amoeba belly.

    • @AdventureKidsSA
      @AdventureKidsSA Місяць тому +5

      Beautiful and will be more beautiful in Nigeria where she belongs.

    • @mcdonald1821
      @mcdonald1821 Місяць тому

      Yes cos she's got a Nigerian special gene.

  • @lindamtimkulu1420
    @lindamtimkulu1420 Місяць тому +15

    At this rate we will have a foreigner as a president

    • @happyclappy1805
      @happyclappy1805 Місяць тому +1

      Watch that space and pray against it

    • @omuntu3363
      @omuntu3363 Місяць тому

      YOU ALREADY HAVE, HOW MANY WHITES HAVE HELD THAT OFFICE??????

    • @lindamtimkulu1420
      @lindamtimkulu1420 Місяць тому

      @lylm4147 😡

  • @afroisme5750
    @afroisme5750 Місяць тому +3

    ...the Whites and some politically correct individuals are legalistic on this issue. You raise issues of lD and papers and that she happened to be born in South Africa. On the legal side she is a paper South African. Being a South African is more than that. Can you speak a South African language, is your name or surname rooted in SA culture, do you embody a South African culture, are you patriotic, and so on. The latter makes you a South African. Politicians loose elections because they are not in touch with the ordinary South African tempo, the ordinary MaMkhize. Tell MaMkhize that She is South African and blackmail her with your big words, Xenophobia. MaMkhize will careless with your fly over the roof big words. Obama is everything American and he can defend America anytime and everyday. Everybody says a Nigerian contestant enters a Miss South Africa pagent. It can't be obvious more than this...

  • @WOWMOHAU
    @WOWMOHAU Місяць тому +10

    We can't have non South Africans competing in Miss South Africa. You think Nigeria or Mozambique would let a South African do it in their own country?

    • @fmk7941
      @fmk7941 Місяць тому +1

      I’m sure they’d have no issues if the person was born and raised in Mozambique. Just like white “South Africans” you clearly have no problem with. Pathetic.

    • @Babskay_14752
      @Babskay_14752 Місяць тому

      Ramsey Nouah- Lebanese/Nigerian
      Sunshine Rosman/ Italian-Nigerian
      Queeneth Hilbert- Lebanese/Nigerian
      Toosweet Anan- Ghanaian/Nigerian
      Lillian Bach- Polish/Nigerian
      Adunni Ade- German/Nigerian
      Sophia Alakija- Lebanese/Nigerian
      Caroline Danjuma- Scottish/Nigerian
      Ibinabo Fiberesima- Irish/Nigerian
      Shan George - British/Nigerian
      Nengi Hampsen- British/Nigerian
      Tboss - Romanian/Nigerian
      Eku Edewor Thorley- Britsh/Nigerian
      All of these names are Nigerian celebrities with foreign (White and Arab) parents. I believe you know some of them.
      So, yes! We allow them in our space. Verify facts before posting or stating your arguments. ✌️✌️

    • @zanelekhumalo3569
      @zanelekhumalo3569 Місяць тому

      Neva, not now not eva

    • @user-zd4rq6er6r
      @user-zd4rq6er6r Місяць тому

      They would never not at Nigeria 🤣

  • @GinaTwinkle22
    @GinaTwinkle22 2 місяці тому +32

    Next time it will be a PAKISTANIS, Somali, BANGLADESH and South Africans should not complain

    • @SingularityDeflatory-xx1jw
      @SingularityDeflatory-xx1jw Місяць тому +3

      A Nigerian south African contested for miss universe Nigeria last year and placed in the top 5, miss Lagos. This year she contested for miss world south Africa too. Nobody made it an issue, y'all are just problematic.

    • @tumweonlyartcore4115
      @tumweonlyartcore4115 Місяць тому +1

      Say it louder 😅

    • @zanelekhumalo3569
      @zanelekhumalo3569 Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂

    • @jessicay-hj1ju
      @jessicay-hj1ju Місяць тому

      You care so much about representation yet you people have allowed whites and Asians to represent South Africa for decades. Where's the smoke for them?

  • @SydneyHlalele
    @SydneyHlalele Місяць тому +9

    She will Uncle waffle us.😪😪😪😪

  • @kedibonel8485
    @kedibonel8485 2 місяці тому +40

    Imagine snubbing Limpopo girlies for a mozambique or Nigerian lady yoh

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  2 місяці тому +4

      😫I get this and I feel you.

    • @Peachcobler22
      @Peachcobler22 2 місяці тому +17

      Honestly, this is also what infuriates me. The are girls who only have SA citizenship, born to SA born and bred parents who were denied this opportunity. I hate how SAns always want to play diplomatic with important things. Truth is Nigeria and Moz would not allow anyone without historical genetic ties to their country to even be considered for such, but yet here we are trying to cape for BS. It's annoying, next people will be pushing for a president and so forth.

    • @NonsoOkoye-pe4rf
      @NonsoOkoye-pe4rf 2 місяці тому +7

      Why are the Limpopo girls not competing ? It was an open contest. Jealousy. She's an Igbo girl and we'r proud of her. Win or lose In our eyes , she's a winner already.

    • @Peachcobler22
      @Peachcobler22 2 місяці тому +10

      @@NonsoOkoye-pe4rf It's not jealousy. There were a number of beautiful SA girls with SA Lineage that were overlooked. That is why we are disillusioned. Igbu is not SA culture, but Nigerian culture, so why not proudly represent her Igbu culture in its country of origin? Again, would your Nigerian people be open to a Zulu woman who is a citizen to take part in a Miss Nigeria competition? Would they do for SA what they expect SA to do for them?

    • @Mstorrance
      @Mstorrance 2 місяці тому

      @@Peachcobler22 they wouldnt. their plan is to ruin our country and replace indigenous people

  • @999SheIsAStar
    @999SheIsAStar Місяць тому +5

    Lol most South Africans cant even say her name

  • @mmamokete7787
    @mmamokete7787 Місяць тому +5

    Its tricky honestly because her country of origin will be claiming her should she win internationally. But at the same time she is a South African.

  • @nelsongeieb581
    @nelsongeieb581 2 місяці тому +39

    We don't question white girls surnames foreign to south Africa, but only black girls should be questioned, come on, let's grow... We are all black Africa first ...

    • @Peachcobler22
      @Peachcobler22 2 місяці тому

      Because the white girls are born from South African parents. It's not that difficult and you know it. As Americans say, not all skin folk are kin folk, just because we're melanated, doesn't mean our goals and interests align. Nigerians especially have an anti SA attitude and yet here is their offspring trying to pass herself off as one of us. Let her go rep Nigeria and Mozambique, we don't care for her. And why lie about her origin?

    • @aykay9328
      @aykay9328 2 місяці тому +20

      How r they foreign when they have lived with us since 1652? We know them better than we could ever know you.

    • @NandiMyambo
      @NandiMyambo 2 місяці тому +14

      @@aykay9328 thats such an odd thing to say imagine thinking a white woman in more african than an african

    • @User.777.1
      @User.777.1 2 місяці тому +10

      Not about that
      The fact is that she's not south african

    • @NandiMyambo
      @NandiMyambo 2 місяці тому

      @@User.777.1 white people are not south African either 💀they’re European and they literally killed the indigenous peoples of the country and now own 80% of the land and 90% of the wealth well natives live in poverty 💀you’re a clown

  • @aphelelevava371
    @aphelelevava371 2 місяці тому +18

    Nigerians are already making noise l don't think she'll make the cut

  • @SeruaneGraceNtshudisane
    @SeruaneGraceNtshudisane Місяць тому +4

    She is Nigerian born in south Africa. So on id its written Nigerian with id book of South. She must go and represent nageria.She is not sotho ore venda ore English speaking
    In the I'd book, wich language register with it.

  • @DGANGMODISE
    @DGANGMODISE 2 місяці тому +35

    The argument is if she must be qualified what about Indians and whites? you guys are fighting the wrong fight, she is a citizen and that is the requirement. If we have to play the Indigenous card, over 50% of the girls who are there should be disqualified and previous winners must be scraped too.

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  2 місяці тому +6

      Exactly

    • @Peachcobler22
      @Peachcobler22 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@thecafebykNo, only those born of parents who are citizens are ordinarily represented. Again why did she misrepresent herself if this is a non issue?

    • @pulanemohanoe238
      @pulanemohanoe238 2 місяці тому +5

      Comparing Chidima to Bryoni is wild

    • @DGANGMODISE
      @DGANGMODISE 2 місяці тому +2

      @@pulanemohanoe238 you missed the whole thing ✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾

    • @pulanemohanoe238
      @pulanemohanoe238 2 місяці тому +3

      @@DGANGMODISE no you are not informed/ ignorant about South Africa laws ✌🏾

  • @Elizabeth-vu1tb
    @Elizabeth-vu1tb Місяць тому +5

    If anything they are helping her ACKNOWLEDGE her roots.
    “ Nigerian South African “; “ Swati South African “ ; Zim South African. Chinese South African.
    This whole THING began when Uncle Waffles became big in America and even if her music was a South African genre ; she proudly REPRESENTED HER COUNTRY SWAZILAND.🇸🇿
    So now South Africans are just weary of letting other people who come from other nations say that they are REPRESENTING SOUTH AFRICA.
    Context. Literally all she needs to do is acknowledge that’s she’s Nigerian

    • @angellakiyaga7089
      @angellakiyaga7089 Місяць тому

      South African are very scared of a white person .if it were a person they wouldn't talk I'll.the white person must have displined them well in the past .home affairs minister has roots of Netherlands..they can't do any thing coz he is white ..and they stoop low to attack a young girl .

  • @faithMketo
    @faithMketo Місяць тому +4

    Hayboo, I'm stocked since when does miss sa allow models who have babies in the competition , What example are they setting to the young one 😢

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  Місяць тому

      Since 2023

    • @SydneyRSA
      @SydneyRSA Місяць тому

      Bruh!!! She's a divorcee and had a child out of wedlock. We can't have thots being miss SA

  • @juriebalie3382
    @juriebalie3382 2 місяці тому +18

    Have no problem. Current Miss New Zealand is a South African .

    • @lesegogaebeeyn4005
      @lesegogaebeeyn4005 2 місяці тому +4

      @@juriebalie3382 Wow I'm impressed

    • @aarongunnz9513
      @aarongunnz9513 2 місяці тому +11

      South Africa is not claiming her. And she didn't come here to celebrate her victory

    • @jeronimodavidgaroupa5143
      @jeronimodavidgaroupa5143 2 місяці тому +9

      It is about nigerian trash talking to other african nationals. For them Africa is Nigeria, Nigeria is Africa.
      That young lady is contesting as south-african not as nigerian. Nigerians are the ones making noise. Technicaly she is half nigerian, half mozambican may be born and raised in South-africa.

    • @zanellatutu6735
      @zanellatutu6735 Місяць тому +3

      That is thier problem not ours

    • @sugarzblossom8168
      @sugarzblossom8168 Місяць тому

      ​@@jeronimodavidgaroupa5143 sounds like an excuse.

  • @patienceikombele9161
    @patienceikombele9161 Місяць тому +5

    My kids don't have a South African surname, but they're South African through me as a mother.

    • @lovedlover2667
      @lovedlover2667 Місяць тому +1

      Good luck

    • @happyclappy1805
      @happyclappy1805 Місяць тому +2

      Your story has too many loopholes. And the Dad?? Please rest

    • @ScissorN
      @ScissorN Місяць тому

      Your kids will never be South African

    • @prophetmakhosingcobo3071
      @prophetmakhosingcobo3071 Місяць тому

      Mawazalela ekhaya phela kilungile

    • @prophetmakhosingcobo3071
      @prophetmakhosingcobo3071 Місяць тому +1

      So nawe washada nabangare now you are defending them. O chideminawhatwhat bakho nabo bazongenela mis SS

  • @ezy78667
    @ezy78667 2 місяці тому +8

    Since when Miss SA allows mothers??? They don't allow married women but allow unmarried mothers? Are you not confusing miss sa & mrs sa? Because it can't be. Go re check their requirements darling... How will you be a good role model to young girls as a baby mama? 😂😂

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  2 місяці тому +7

      Let me forgive you for not knowing this, Miss SA doesn't have age restrictions, mother, pregnant women, married women, and trans women can enter. This was announced in 2022🤣🤣...I think I even made a video about it on my pageant channel.

    • @mimmiekgaditse1517
      @mimmiekgaditse1517 2 місяці тому

      They've been dropping the standard with each year​@@thecafebyk

    • @tshepometswi9676
      @tshepometswi9676 2 місяці тому

      Did you just say transport woman are allowed, I'm packing for the union building for a week this shit needs immediate addr​Essing😡😡😠😤@@thecafebyk

    • @tshidi129
      @tshidi129 Місяць тому +1

      Her mother isn't even South African

  • @thandomkhabela525
    @thandomkhabela525 Місяць тому +4

    Eish you know what neh..😅 i think south africans are feeling this way about her because of what her brothers and uncles are doing in this country,i feel like if she was from maybe tanzania or kenya there wouldn't be so much uproar..
    So kahle kahle yena ufela izono zabafowabo yaz bakithi hmm.. 🤔

    • @prophetmakhosingcobo3071
      @prophetmakhosingcobo3071 Місяць тому +2

      Hhay hhay asibafuni laba la. Kwaba khona amaphara ngenxa yokufika kwabo, her mother married in Nigeria so she belongs in nigeria

    • @zakhelembhele7046
      @zakhelembhele7046 Місяць тому +2

      Cha Cha Cha, she's not one us. Ufela ukuzama ukweba into yase South Africa ayoyidla noyise wase Nigeria. Hhayi ngeke Mkhabela, siyaxolisa Bakithi.

  • @bellocornelius1273
    @bellocornelius1273 Місяць тому +3

    All I see in this comment is the hypocrisy of South Africans y’all would support bryoni who is Asian and won’t support a native African emphasis on the native

    • @LesediModisakeng-in8uq
      @LesediModisakeng-in8uq Місяць тому

      Bryoni Govender is South Africa with a long history and heritage... just because you're Black African doesn't mean you're Native to all African lands... Asians (both Brown and Yellow) have been since the mid 19th-century and have contributed and enriched the multicultural essence of South Africa... Black Africans who are not Indigenous to South Africa don't have any right or entitlement above non-Black people here... South Africa isn't just about Black people, it's about different people who created a mongrel culture/heritage... you people just arrived yesterday... so don't even try to make a comparison between natives and outsiders... A Black Nigerian or Mozambican isn't Indigenous to SA... you people should get that straight

    • @bellocornelius1273
      @bellocornelius1273 Місяць тому

      @@LesediModisakeng-in8uq you are bitter you need therapy

  • @felang99
    @felang99 2 місяці тому +7

    I mean, for now, we can just agree that she herself said she is from CPT, probably the person responsible for the app details made a mistake... and I don't understand how now, is it that y'all have Bryoni representing the country and in the same instance attack that lady...if anything most crowned Miss SA's are'nt native black south africans.. what has changed when it comes to this lady? Maybe attack the brand not that young lady.

    • @thuthukanisjaka2597
      @thuthukanisjaka2597 2 місяці тому +6

      You spewing nonsense. Coloureds, whites and indians have been into South Africa for a very long time and have completely assimilatedto the culture if South Africa and whatever achievement or accolades they receive they do that in the name of South Africa. Whereas, this lady is Nigerian her people in Nigeria have started to claim her already we can't have a miss South Africa who is conflicted between two countries.

  • @JostleMedia
    @JostleMedia 2 місяці тому +12

    I feel sorry for her. Imagine she goes to Nigeria and they say your name and surname are Nigerian but your accent is not Nigerian and in South Africa they are saying she speak like a South Africa but her name and surname is Nigerian. By birth right she a South African.

    • @Qotha
      @Qotha 2 місяці тому +4

      Do we have birthright citizenship in South African law?

    • @Mstorrance
      @Mstorrance 2 місяці тому +2

      no

    • @viwekenneth6028
      @viwekenneth6028 Місяць тому +2

      😂 heritage makes you a citizen not birth. Damn people really need to be educated about citizenship

    • @999SheIsAStar
      @999SheIsAStar Місяць тому

      Not our problem.

    • @mcdonald1821
      @mcdonald1821 Місяць тому

      Nigerians are not that petty and xenophobic. Nigeria loves all Africans. You can take it to the bank!

  • @NthabisengRapoo
    @NthabisengRapoo 2 місяці тому +14

    I know someone from Lesotho after he obtained citizenship the ID came strictly saying country of birth "Lesotho". Miss SA must just clarify this issue to us.

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  2 місяці тому

      Miss SA should change that, but we are still gonna have the same discussion because she might have been born in SA with foreign parents who obtained citizenship.

    • @NthabisengRapoo
      @NthabisengRapoo Місяць тому

      @@thecafebyk eish try get correct info from home affairs so that we all understand and learn how such things works 🙏 I'll also ask a friend working there.

  • @CeeMotsoeneng
    @CeeMotsoeneng Місяць тому +3

    I am one of those who lost interest in Miss South Africa a long time ago.

  • @divineceleste.m
    @divineceleste.m 2 місяці тому +8

    Mara she's Nigerian and there's nothing wrong with saying that. I hope she will get the support she deserves/worked hard for!
    But overlooking ethnic South African girls for a girl with a citizenship, without South African heritage/tribal advantage in the name of being cosmopolitan is wild. You can't be proudly Nigerian representing South Africa. This is Miss South Africa!
    Wishing her all the best though. South Africans are mad people 😂😂 they won't let this go!

    • @selinab.8611
      @selinab.8611 Місяць тому

      So we fighting our kind and allowing the Asian and white Europeans compete. We sure hate our blackness and love our colonizers.Shameful 😡😡😡😡while we’re busy fighting against each other, the colonizers are laughing 😡😡😡

  • @lesegogaebeeyn4005
    @lesegogaebeeyn4005 2 місяці тому +18

    Guys leave her alone she's beautiful

    • @MIA-fq1di
      @MIA-fq1di 2 місяці тому +4

      She's hella mid

    • @omphemetsechake2839
      @omphemetsechake2839 2 місяці тому +1

      😂😅
      Lol
      ...guys leave her alone, she's beautiful
      Your comment is a masterpiece❤

    • @Mstorrance
      @Mstorrance 2 місяці тому +5

      everyone is beautiful these days to yall

    • @MIA-fq1di
      @MIA-fq1di 2 місяці тому

      @@Mstorrance like literally 😂😂😂😂

    • @patriciamajola3793
      @patriciamajola3793 Місяць тому +2

      Beautiful so what 😳😳

  • @kingoswav6984
    @kingoswav6984 Місяць тому +5

    Dear South Africans can we disagree without insulting other people? Yes we need to have a voice but being mean, rude and looking down on other people is not ayoba. Argue correctly. We South Africans are not above other Africans, we are all 1

    • @zakhelembhele7046
      @zakhelembhele7046 Місяць тому +2

      You just want to believe we're insulting other people. No one is insulting anyone here. We're just stating the fact that she's not one of us differently.

    • @kingoswav6984
      @kingoswav6984 Місяць тому

      @@zakhelembhele7046 no one said dont have an opinion but we think we are better than other African countries. If you read comments online, even posts that arent about Ms SA, there are Online South Africans who are just rude. the fact that you do not see that we do this online, clearly demonstrates that we lack situation awareness. You gonna stereotype all foreigners but get upset when white people say all black people steal

    • @kingoswav6984
      @kingoswav6984 Місяць тому

      @@zakhelembhele7046 Its ok to voice out your opinion bhut, but belittling and devaluing other people. This young girl just entered a competition, the some comments are evil

  • @TamaraCanham
    @TamaraCanham 2 місяці тому +32

    There are many people whose parents were not born here but they themselves were born here. So they must enter . This is the new South Africa. WE have people from all parts of the world coming to live here, so what must they do with their kids? They must leave them , haibo.

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  2 місяці тому +4

      Exactly

    • @user-xb5xv2wu2t
      @user-xb5xv2wu2t 2 місяці тому +7

      But why lie???

    • @DuchessofKuvuki
      @DuchessofKuvuki 2 місяці тому +16

      You are clearly clueless about our laws, please educate yourself before encouraging scammers to break our laws.

    • @currentaffairs3411
      @currentaffairs3411 2 місяці тому +13

      Stop lying that’s not the law by the law you need at least one South African parent to be the citizen of the country

    • @user-kq8it6dz5p
      @user-kq8it6dz5p 2 місяці тому +7

      She lied stop protacting scammers

  • @RebornBaloyi-nz1pd
    @RebornBaloyi-nz1pd Місяць тому +2

    If people who are born in s.a are south African,many Zimbabweans are giving birth here.which means that one day we can have a Zimbabwean who is a president in s.a

  • @remotrent7756
    @remotrent7756 2 місяці тому +9

    Its the "lies" that im confused about.... but if she didn't lie and her parents have proper papers and legitimate jobs ....why not! Obviously she can enter Miss SA if she wants

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  2 місяці тому +2

      The lie is just too much and I would never stand for that.

    • @victormalapane6057
      @victormalapane6057 2 місяці тому +5

      If she's not classified as a coloured, which SA tribe does she come from? Sotho, venda, or Zulu?😅

    • @Simphiweful
      @Simphiweful 2 місяці тому

      ​@@victormalapane6057😅😂

    • @noziphokhumalo4030
      @noziphokhumalo4030 2 місяці тому +2

      Still not South African even her ID is not written South African

  • @OscalyneZimbowa-q3f
    @OscalyneZimbowa-q3f 2 місяці тому +21

    I think people have a problem with her because she's black, if she was a white, indian or colored girl noone was going to say anything so the worry is if she wins Miss South Africa ,yoo it's going to be a big problem because this girl she will go to Nigeria,Mozambique and celebrated their, but if a white South African won she be in South Africa because it's her only home ,so just maybe South Africans have a point

    • @sellomonama7797
      @sellomonama7797 2 місяці тому +5

      A Nigerian represending SA.

    • @aarongunnz9513
      @aarongunnz9513 2 місяці тому

      ​@@sellomonama7797one day we will be having a Nigerian or Zimbabwean as president

    • @fadielbenjamin159
      @fadielbenjamin159 Місяць тому +7

      That's not true. If you know the history between South Africa and Nigeria then this makes sense. Also Zozibini Tunzi and multiple other winners are black South Africans

    • @bigbrownbabe
      @bigbrownbabe Місяць тому

      I'm tied of the double standards this country has . She's African , closer related to is than a European or Indian

    • @tshidi129
      @tshidi129 Місяць тому

      You know what, call it what you want. You people can go to hell. This lady's parents are not South African. She better not win or we will be boycotting Miss SA

  • @tebohoketsise9222
    @tebohoketsise9222 2 місяці тому +10

    Every competition has its own criteria. If she meets the criteria I don't see any problem with her being a contestant.
    And besides, South Africa is a cosmopolitan country. And because of that we're bound to have citizens who were born here but have a heritage from outside our borders. It's the reality that every cosmopolitan country in this world faces.

    • @kemmoneR
      @kemmoneR 2 місяці тому

      I feel this cosmopolitan thing has been forced on us. We actually never asked for it, hence we are always pushing back against it

    • @lovedlover2667
      @lovedlover2667 Місяць тому

      SAn doesn't hv to approve on the enforced status qpu

    • @tebohoketsise9222
      @tebohoketsise9222 Місяць тому

      @@lovedlover2667 let's not use words just because they sound nice. This is not a status quo, it's the reality.
      That girl is a first generation citizen. Everyone who understands that term would not even argue about this. She has a South African ID, therefore she's a citizen and she qualifies to represent the country, either in sports or any other competition.

  • @TheEdator
    @TheEdator 2 місяці тому +8

    Black South Africans clutching their pearls over a black woman in Miss South Africa when they have a rich history of white and Asian titleholders is HILARIOUS

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 2 місяці тому +4

      black sacn can clutch who ever they want to in their own country, so why forcing yourselves on them?

    • @TheEdator
      @TheEdator 2 місяці тому

      @@thabangtladi8057 I’m not even Nigerian. Stay mad

    • @fmk7941
      @fmk7941 Місяць тому

      Idiotic mentality.

    • @Impiloiscam
      @Impiloiscam Місяць тому +6

      The law says one of your parents must be SAn or you must be born in SA before 1995😑 those white people and Asians are South Africans by law. And mo girl isn't. Case closed.

    • @TheEdator
      @TheEdator Місяць тому +1

      @@Impiloiscam cry harder

  • @karenjoseph
    @karenjoseph 2 місяці тому +17

    If she is born here. Obviously she is an South African. She is a beautiful woman too 😊

    • @Motswako
      @Motswako 2 місяці тому

      Being born here does not make you South African 🤦🏾 read the laws and stop spreading misinformation

    • @noziphokhumalo4030
      @noziphokhumalo4030 2 місяці тому +7

      Home Affairs doesn't consider you South African

    • @Bongiwe002
      @Bongiwe002 Місяць тому +3

      You Are Definitely not South African

    • @yummydishes2279
      @yummydishes2279 Місяць тому

      ​@@noziphokhumalo4030did she force herself in?

    • @zanellatutu6735
      @zanellatutu6735 Місяць тому +3

      Being born here of foreign nationals does not automatically make you a South African. You may be a resident but not a national

  • @kingdomcompliant9808
    @kingdomcompliant9808 Місяць тому +14

    MISS SA ORGANIZATION should be boycotted. She is taking the place of a legitimate South African girl

  • @datuhenson3758
    @datuhenson3758 Місяць тому +8

    she must be disqualified if not a single blood of SA in her... if she wants to win why not join miss nigeria or mozambique instead why is she depriving a local SA girl of the chance to represent south africa.

    • @fmk7941
      @fmk7941 Місяць тому +3

      And white South Africans with European blood? Or Asians competing?

    • @selinab.8611
      @selinab.8611 Місяць тому +1

      @@fmk7941exactly, why do we hate our own kind and glorify those European colonizers. Do better South Africans 😡
      Why whites and Asians competing? We’re sick people who love our colonizers more than ourselves. We need mental health check 😡

  • @leane_vanessen
    @leane_vanessen Місяць тому +11

    I’m absolutely appalled at the racism in this feed! How absolutely ridiculous!
    I’m a South African that moved to Australia and I’m a citizen, but kept my name but don’t have an ID or SA passport anymore so does that make me more South African than chi chi simply because I’m white and was born to a Dutch immigrant and South African family? It’s soo stupid. It’s baffling people in these comments can be so small minded. She is a South African, she went to school here , she has a South African accent, has all the documents - what more do you want? 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @tshidi129
      @tshidi129 Місяць тому +3

      You're a foreigner yourself, if course you'd say something like that

    • @tanialouw8246
      @tanialouw8246 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@tshidi129actually dear,so are u.know ur roots...

    • @tshidi129
      @tshidi129 Місяць тому +2

      @@tanialouw8246 I know my roots very well. I'm not a foreigner. And even if I were one, a non-African like yourself can never tell me that I'm not a South African... I'm telling you the truth, not the lies in your history books

    • @ScissorN
      @ScissorN Місяць тому +1

      This is not about you gogo futhi you comparing bananas and oranges

    • @jessicay-hj1ju
      @jessicay-hj1ju Місяць тому

      💯 The self hate is real.

  • @patienceikombele9161
    @patienceikombele9161 Місяць тому +8

    They are jealous because she's beautiful and smart. They must leave the girl alone.

  • @remembersambo3473
    @remembersambo3473 Місяць тому +1

    There's an allegation that she is divorced. Her father in an interview said he came to SA in 2010 using visitor's visa and married her mother. Honestly I doubt that this contestant was born in SA, because her father said when he married her mother,
    they did not have a child in 2010.

  • @lisohl7258
    @lisohl7258 2 місяці тому +8

    I hope someone is handling her social cause wow if it was me my confidence would be emaqatheni at this point

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  2 місяці тому +1

      I would be off social media ASAP

    • @YTFHair
      @YTFHair 2 місяці тому

      Akhompolo tuu emzanzi😂

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  2 місяці тому

      @@YTFHair zange yakhona 🤣🤣

  • @JuliaMarothi
    @JuliaMarothi Місяць тому +1

    The father actually said that in 2010 , he had the SA Visitors VISA, and they had no children at that time when they came for world cup, but Chii is 23 years old and claim that she was born in SA?? Please have a look into this statement ...

  • @thulimasasa8119
    @thulimasasa8119 Місяць тому +5

    DISQUALIFY HER PLEASE!

    • @omuntu3363
      @omuntu3363 Місяць тому

      STOP THIS NONSENSE, WHITES & ASIANS ARE ACCEPTED BUT FELLOW INDIGENOUS ARE CONSIDERED FOREIGNERS 🙄 THIS COLONIZED THINKING IS OUR UNDOING ON THE CONTINENT. We must abolish colonial borders and ban European culture and media on the continent.

  • @goodwillntimane9038
    @goodwillntimane9038 Місяць тому +6

    You are a citizen of South Africa if legally you meet the requirements, so please people dont get mad at her but at your government, their laws and policies regarding citizenship

  • @marlynbuise6982
    @marlynbuise6982 2 місяці тому +12

    She was born here, only knows this country as her home and now the countrymen who are supposed to support her, stand against her. She is South African and will remain South African. I hope she wins.

    • @lesegogaebeeyn4005
      @lesegogaebeeyn4005 2 місяці тому +1

      I'm also rooting for her

    • @MIA-fq1di
      @MIA-fq1di 2 місяці тому +6

      No she isn't go root for her somewhere else not here

    • @thuthukanisjaka2597
      @thuthukanisjaka2597 2 місяці тому +5

      Which indigineous tribe does she belong to in South Africa?

    • @lesegogaebeeyn4005
      @lesegogaebeeyn4005 2 місяці тому +3

      @@thuthukanisjaka2597 She's not an SA native but Nigerian.

    • @mamaumomalematsa7365
      @mamaumomalematsa7365 2 місяці тому +6

      ​@@lesegogaebeeyn4005 exactly she is a Nigerian

  • @lungilelinda604
    @lungilelinda604 Місяць тому +1

    The contestant from last year is Melissa her father is from Uganda and mother is a South African Xhosa.

  • @SibongakonkeMadlala-fw2kb
    @SibongakonkeMadlala-fw2kb Місяць тому +4

    She must be disqualified, she's comitting crime and should be behind bars if necessary so that she will be an example.

  • @SilentDiva001
    @SilentDiva001 Місяць тому +1

    I hear something about singing petition where is the petition?

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  Місяць тому

      🤣🤣it has been removed

  • @nqabakula9262
    @nqabakula9262 Місяць тому +5

    She is breath taking though. Veeeery beautiful.

  • @Confidence-ym9xw
    @Confidence-ym9xw Місяць тому +1

    And on top of that, on an interview her father said he first came to S.A in 2010 to watch the worl cup, dukuduku he came back to get marrried, then she must be 14 right?????

  • @Om29410
    @Om29410 2 місяці тому +7

    As a South African - Nigerian myself, I knew that if I entered Miss SA people would criticize me and say I must enter Miss Nigeria. Then Nigerians would say “she didn’t even grow up here why is she entering the competition”. A Ugandan -South African made it to the top 6 a year or two ago and no one said anything. The problem is South African are fixated on African countries they don’t like. If someone had a British and SA passport nobody would care.

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  2 місяці тому +2

      She was bullied it was last year.

    • @user-uq8kb4xp4f
      @user-uq8kb4xp4f 2 місяці тому +2

      False sisters. Melissa told her story on how she was dragged last year on her interview with Zozibini ! Check it out ...she was not excempted!

    • @whyjsolitnkosi5030
      @whyjsolitnkosi5030 Місяць тому

      The Uganda- South African mother is Xhosa, she did not hide!! All was clear

  • @Yourchurchbestie
    @Yourchurchbestie Місяць тому +1

    This channel has such great potential, I just stumbled on it and you are doing an amazing job

  • @kayak30
    @kayak30 2 місяці тому +5

    Which south african language does she speak?

    • @user-uq8kb4xp4f
      @user-uq8kb4xp4f 2 місяці тому +3

      None..just English, cannot relate to majority of us.

    • @bigbrownbabe
      @bigbrownbabe Місяць тому +1

      European smooth speak South African languages, just European languages yet they allowed to claim to be south african , what makes her different? You wouldn't have a problem if she was European ​@@user-uq8kb4xp4f

    • @mcdonald1821
      @mcdonald1821 Місяць тому

      She speaks your official language. ENGLISH

    • @user-uq8kb4xp4f
      @user-uq8kb4xp4f Місяць тому

      @@mcdonald1821 .. lol people will do everything to convince themselves into South African-ness. English is also official in Nigeria but we all know it's not ours ...hence she is not "OUR" representation.

  • @thenativeconservationist
    @thenativeconservationist Місяць тому +2

    Guys she will win Miss SA because of one thing! Nigerians outnumber us and will vote. So unless we do something but I see both sides. SA is diverse but if she was half South African like many others we’ve grown up with it would be fine but now it’s not make sure 😅

  • @openmindedfairy9691
    @openmindedfairy9691 2 місяці тому +7

    People obtain id's illegally 😂, their background it's usually complicated. Especially from Mozambique, Swaziland, Zimbabwe and Botswana.

  • @tshegofatsoramonye8570
    @tshegofatsoramonye8570 Місяць тому +2

    She brought the ID document.. She's not south African.. She won't win let her try her luck

    • @mcdonald1821
      @mcdonald1821 Місяць тому +1

      Too late. She has already made history by contesting and getting to the final stage. Your hate speaks volume.

  • @Onelove-Oneheart-h4c
    @Onelove-Oneheart-h4c 2 місяці тому +3

    History education. South Africa is a 1910 British concept. It was a whites only country. Blacks were included in 1994 when it became a multicultural country. When they said South Africa belongs to all who live in it. Your parents did not know what they were voting for 😂

    • @kemmoneR
      @kemmoneR 2 місяці тому +1

      That statement was taken from the freedom chatter. Its not a 94 concept

    • @Onelove-Oneheart-h4c
      @Onelove-Oneheart-h4c 2 місяці тому

      @@kemmoneR you don't know what you are talking about. That is what our democracy I built on. There won't be gay rights without that statement.

    • @lionessnala2000
      @lionessnala2000 Місяць тому

      Please stop... you are embarrassing yourself

  • @siphombingo6545
    @siphombingo6545 Місяць тому +1

    For me it’s about patriotism she seems to me like she not all in with South Africa she displays Nigerian and Mozambican flags not South African which country pledges allegiance to?

  • @Mathebe-p1s
    @Mathebe-p1s 2 місяці тому +5

    I have no problem at all,look at Breyoni,She did very well at miss supranational best Global ambassador👑 🎉🎉🎉🎉☆☆☆☆OUR " SOUTH AFRICAN" RAINBOW 🌈 NATION FLAG IS FLYING HIGH REGARDLESS OF THE COLOUR,COUNTRY OR RACE. I HIGHLY BELIEVE THAT SHE WILL DO BEST ON THE GLOBAL STAGE.

    • @christophergqili9025
      @christophergqili9025 2 місяці тому +2

      Will Nigeria grant a SA girl child a permission to enter the competition ?
      The answer is no

    • @SingularityDeflatory-xx1jw
      @SingularityDeflatory-xx1jw Місяць тому

      ​@@christophergqili9025A Nigerian south African contested for miss universe Nigeria last year and placed in the top 5, miss Lagos. This year she contested for miss world south Africa too. Nobody made it an issue, y'all are just problematic.

  • @nonhlanhlapearl4700
    @nonhlanhlapearl4700 Місяць тому +2

    Maybe the criteria for candidates is: should be South African, instead of: should be of South African Descent 🤔

  • @aykay9328
    @aykay9328 2 місяці тому +8

    Ask her what tribe is she we know south African tribes too

  • @mirriamngqulunga4668
    @mirriamngqulunga4668 Місяць тому +1

    Must be disqualified, we need someone to present SA .

  • @LaloHasery_02
    @LaloHasery_02 2 місяці тому +8

    As someone who is now living in England I’ve lived in SA my whole live till I was 18
    although I have Congolese origins SA is the only home I know but I’ll never forget the xenophobic attacks and manifestation that happens every year in SA mainly killing , projecting hate towards black foreigners cause I’m yet to see blk South Africans tell any white foreigner to go home, but they are so quick to attack the blk foreigners.
    In this girl’s case idk if she lied or the person who type her Biography being someone from the miss SA team lied or got it wrong ? Because in her video she clearly says that she’s from Cape Town ?
    I personally think she could be given a fair chance being that her documents are in regulation with the law.
    Someone in the comment said she could just go to Nigeria and participate at miss Nigeria thn come back to SA
    Which is stupid cause if she was born or raised in SA, studied in SA from grade one to twelve lived there her whole life what makes u think she knows anything about Nigeria for her to go represent Nigeria ?
    This for me proves how backwards the country is, cause I have a friend here who is also from SA and was born here in England she has the English nationality and she runs for England.
    No one here will tell her hey u love sports but u do not have English blood so go back to SA run thn come back to England, it’s silly !
    She’s at home just as any white English man is.

    • @thecafebyk
      @thecafebyk  2 місяці тому +17

      I understand where you are coming from, but saying Xenophobic attacks are happening every year is misinformation and exaggeration. We have a high crime rate, and guess what, foreign nationals are involved in so Manny levels. Surely, foreigners are getting murdered in SA, which is the result of a high crime rate, not xenophobia

    • @LaloHasery_02
      @LaloHasery_02 2 місяці тому

      @@thecafebyk
      Putting every foreigner in one box is also misinformation cause y’all know and we know that Nigerians are the ones commenting crimes by selling drugs and involving gunshots in the country but it’s not all Nigerian and there is South Africans also parting in this activity sadly.
      As someone who lived in sunnyside I can bet that there was xenophobic manifestation at least once every year but that’s not all cause there is the bullying too that comes from adults and kids especially at school when your surname is called or when u are just not like the others.
      makwerekwere
      Go home wena
      U don’t belong here
      You are taking our women
      We hear it all even from teachers
      In transports
      While looking for jobs
      My dad is a doctor and the nurses talk behind his back calling him a kwerekkwere.
      The country is very hateful towards blk foreigners while white tourist or just white people from Netherlands, Germany, Australia and New Zealand can walk into the country claim this and that and be respected because they can easily fit into the RAINBOW NATION cause there is a place for them.
      Half of the things blk South Africans make blk foreigners go through they would NEVER TRY TO DO THAT TO A WHITE FOREIGNER.
      Not that anyone deserves such dog treatment.

    • @zakimba6532
      @zakimba6532 2 місяці тому

      This post has elements of sensationalism, and pick me complex, your narrative is ladden with half truths takes no considerations the experiences of natives who have and are living with african migrants, it's so easy to label SAns Xenophobic,and not address the catastrophic effects of illegal african migrant in SA.

    • @dineomolapo9934
      @dineomolapo9934 2 місяці тому

      Troll you remember xenophobia 🇿🇦 every year .. and you don't remember Congo war mongering every day incredible you don't remember rape villages in Congo incredible happening...

    • @tkasiam8322
      @tkasiam8322 2 місяці тому

      Can you just live us in peace to fight for our country. Have you ever heard of any black south african illegally staying in any foreign African country??? You know why, it's because those countries policeman don't play.We are tired of foreigners taking advantage of our humanity, people must stay in their countries and try fix whatever is going on ,like we did. Then you call us xenophobic, yet some ,Nigerians to be specific, kill our youth with drugs,Zimbabweans hijack cars, and will rape and kill you once their house breaking mission is successful. So, let's allow people who are South african by blood to enter for the pageant, Klaas.

  • @user-od1hc9kp4g
    @user-od1hc9kp4g Місяць тому +1

    They buy these IDs, there is a problem with the organizers and the judges

  • @bonneyg-s3816
    @bonneyg-s3816 2 місяці тому +4

    She's a black child please give her a break.The parents might be legal citizen.Go for it girl.

  • @lindiwe233
    @lindiwe233 Місяць тому +2

    Eish girl..the inconsistency killed your chances.

    • @mcdonald1821
      @mcdonald1821 Місяць тому

      No. Xenophobia is killing her chances.

  • @KwakuOkai
    @KwakuOkai 2 місяці тому +6

    But why do you guys support Bryoni Govender and Melissa Bam, Natasha Joubert or Tamaryn Green... Are those names native South African names

    • @marcelinelotsima
      @marcelinelotsima 2 місяці тому +3

      The question I'm always asking myself. Especially for Bryoni with a whole Indian ethnicity

    • @jeromehiralall3336
      @jeromehiralall3336 2 місяці тому +8

      @@marcelinelotsima Bryonis parents and her was born and raised in South Africa.

    • @marcelinelotsima
      @marcelinelotsima 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@jeromehiralall3336 the same with Melissa mos? But the backlash she received? I just find it very hypocritical that Indians are allowed to be south African in peace while "mixed south Africans" have to constantly fight for people to accept them as such

    • @user-kq8it6dz5p
      @user-kq8it6dz5p 2 місяці тому +3

      Their ancestors are here in South Africa and that makes them fully South African

    • @marcelinelotsima
      @marcelinelotsima 2 місяці тому +2

      @@user-kq8it6dz5p listen, that argument isn't valid.