everything Mariano does and says in his vlogs is very intentional and calculated to allow him to comfortably thrive in his high stakes pool at Hustler. his image is hyper calculated. just the good ol chill friendly guy who isn’t here to hurt anybody or take things too serious. I don’t think Corey Eyring (love the guy and rooting for his success) has ever had a green year in poker and the fact that you’ve rated him above MARIANO is NUTS lol
i know for fact marianos bankroll comes from illegal money this guy is the biggest piece of trash in poker which is why he has no wpt contract because they vet people
This is the one thing about this series that makes me question Charlie's intentions. I've watched a ton of videos from Brad, Mariano and Corey so saying that you learn more about poker from Corey is simply preposterous. Corey is great because of his style and pure degeneracy, not any modicum of poker skills. Not saying he isn't a good poker player but teaching theory isn't even one of his goals (his brother different story, highly educational at low stakes). I would have Brad then Mariano then Corey if it were based on my watchings.
Mariano obviously dumbs down his thought process drastically for the casual viewers and people who aren’t thinking about the game at a high level. He didn’t go from 1/3 to 200/400 for no reason. Hes a great player!
He's hit and miss. Some very good plays, alot of dreadful ones as well. Definitely not as good as many think him to be. He plays soft pools, where he can thrive with his skillset. But in no way is he elite in his theoretical understanding of the game.
Well truthfully a lot of these guys made that move because of youtube money. We also don't know if this guy has a trust fund. Most people consider Negreanu a great player but he has probably had one winning year in a decade, he is a great rigged site marketer though and got rich promoting.
Love this series Charlie, but there’s no world where Corey should be ranked higher than Mariano for learning purposes. If the ranking was based on entertainment then yes, Corey would be top of the list. Not sure if him being your former student played any role in his ranking. Nonetheless, great work Charlie and looking forward to further videos!
i think its better for him to do all the vloggers with bigger following that his first. Hes benefiting from talking about them. If he talks about Gary hes just giving him a shoutout and helping him ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Charlie, It's IMPOSSIBLE that Corey is better than Mariano. I watched both videos, and Mariano played some great poker (KK44 hand for example) while Corey played bad poker (other than zero remarkable hands, it was clear that his bankroll management skill [the most important skill in poker] doesn't exist). Sorry to say that, but it feels like it's just because Corey was your student. Mariano crushes high stakes poker and Corey plays for pennies with his entire tiny bankroll, that's no coincidence.
I agree with your overall point, there's no way in hell Mariano is worse than Corey, but bankroll management is definitely not the most important skill. If you're losing at like 20bb/100 because you're a huge whale, it doesn't matter if you have a million buy-ins (apart from you not caring). And yes, definitionally Mariano is crushing high stakes, but when the high stakes in question is HCL and other broadcast poker entertainment, the table isn't really much stronger than an average 2/5 game.
I agree with your overall point, there's no way in hell Mariano is worse than Corey, but bankroll management is definitely not the most important skill. If you're losing at like 20bb/100 because you're a huge whale, it doesn't matter if you have a million buy-ins (apart from you not caring). And yes, definitionally Mariano is crushing high stakes, but when the high stakes in question is HCL and other broadcast poker entertainment, the table isn't really much stronger than an average 2/5 game.
@@thomasmuller4716 bankroll MANAGEMENT is most important since without it, you can be the absolute best in the world in every other aspect of the game and still lose everything in one session. As to your example, with a proper br management, if you’re a losing player, proper br management dictates you mostly study and play far less than your study time (and that’s for practice purposes only) the lowest stakes possible until you’re winning enough to move up, thus mitigating your losses to a minimum. BR management is the first and foremost most important skill in poker. Corey is an extreme example of not having any, with videos titled “gambling my entire net worth”. Even in the video “analyzed” by Charlie he said “I have to gamble in a situation in which I can’t afford to gamble” - clearly playing above what proper brm would dictate. So to my mind, not even an F tier. Btw Mariano beat 5/10 and 10/20 too, before moving up, check out his channel…
@@thomasmuller4716 The best player in the world in every other aspect can lose his entire br within one session without BRM skills. BRM for losing players = study most of the time, play for practice the smallest stakes possible. Rating Corey (a player with videos titles “gambling my entire networth”) who literally said in the video which Charlie analyzed “I have to gamble where I can’t afford to gamble”, as anything but F is a joke. This makes Charlie’s rating system nothing but a random piece of entertainment not to be taken seriously.
I think an interesting idea could be “how really good are my subscribers at poker” and they send in some of their hands and you break down their thought processes
Mariano knows one of the golden rules of playing profitable poker. Find soft games you can beat. That is what he does, dont think he cares if anybody thinks he is good or not.
Used to battle 5/10 w/ you on stars way back. And am former RIO coach. If you're gauging this on who to best learn from, I disagree with giving hands like the 97 river bluff raise such a high score. This isn't something to be teaching people who don't understand poker. They are going to end up making bad reads and over bluffing. I agree he could have gone more in depth in a lot of his explanations, and I agree about considering leading more often though I wouldn't denigrate him for having this more robotic style becauae it is a very strong style and it works. I played extremely similarly to this for most of my high stakes career. Also, this is UA-cam, it's not like a professionally made training video. I would have rated his play higher. In any case, thought the most brilliant thing you said was about overall mindset and embodying that energy of being lucky and being a winner. Very very key for success in anything in life.
maybe he's good, maybe he's not but you cannot decide that on some entertainment videos. It would be stupid of him to expose all of his thought process; his opponents will have a great advantage on the next games
Hey Charlie. Are you using OBS? If so, consider putting a limiter/compressor on your mic, and perhaps some other filters to prevent your volume from peaking and distorting.
You mention feeling bored, which i can appreciate. I watch his vlogs frequently because i dont enjoy hearing dudes yell 1 TIME DEALER and BANGGG with a shaking video. It’s a relaxed environment and stakes which i will never play so it drives interest.
Ooo.. ok, I'm paused at the "what would you do" facing a bet and a raise on the flop while out of position. SO, based on the game, positions, maybe some observation, bot of my opponents can be pretty wide. Either Mike or Vinny can have a lot of hands that contain over cards + hearts and those hands do tend to get sticky, and both players can potentially have a set of deuces. So this is the thicc part of the range that I want to extract max from. The question is, is there enough medium pocket pairs and 54 suited and 6x hands that I may also want to target. I think if I just overcall I either lose the hand or lose value when a flush or straightening card come in. So I want to 3-bet. And I think if I come over the top a lot of pocket pairs and 6x hands are going to fold whether or not I go big or small. So I think I want to make it like $11,000 to target pocket deuces and overcard+heart hands.
The point at the end about the mindset of saying to yourself “I run so good” is very helpful. When I am running well, I say that to myself, and I see a big increase in my exploitation mindset. I’m finding those creative bluffs and thin value bets and upping my aggression against capped ranges. There’s no logical reason to have a mindset that the deck has doomed you and that makes you play -EV poker.
He's always seemed to be a bit of a luckbox but I generally enjoy watching him play. But I do think this is generally how he talks? Like Marc Goone he's also got a musical gig as well
52:55 disagree with calling this dialogue empty, when Mariano basically says "this player is more likely to be here therefore I'll check, although mixing in some % of bets is important to avoid being too predictable against a player I play against often". Basically bet x% and check y% where we are exploitatively increasing x vs what is our baseline, but not going 1:0 because we can get counterexploited in the long term. I think your points are valid and I appreciate an unbiased view, but I do think there is a bit of breakdown with Mariano's delivery to understand its depth (because he says it so casually). Maybe the point that he makes is so obvious to you that it seems trivial, though.
I'd love to see you do a video on Garrett, even though you would have to go only based on his decisions and not his thought process, I'd think it'd still be interesting
I use to not like your vids due to how often you bashed GTO, but now I realize you are definitely a thinking poker player with good analysis, so I like the vids. If you ever get the chance, I would love for you to analyze bluffaloSams game!
I think Mariano is a hidden poker genius. He gets invited to often soft rich guy games at HCL and exploits alot of poor to average players. He has gone from $1/$3 to as high as $200/$400 in 3 years and posts his annual wins in deep 6 figure amounts. His game appears elite because of the soft games he is in
He only has been able to jump stakes because he's got a ton of income coming from the rake online games he runs. He didn't just casually run up a multimillion dollar bankroll from $1/$3 in 3 years.
@@oskars82 the point is that he jumped stakes because he had alternative income coming in. Not because hes a "hidden poker genius" as you suggested. He's just another idiot with money who got to skip over all the hard parts of grinding it up and now he sits in cushy home games that anyone with a brain can beat, all because even bigger idiots want to play poker with the youtube famous guy.
I used to think that Mariano was good and that he battled his way to high stakes. Then I found out that he and rampage got rich off using their UA-cam success to purchase a cut in the club GG poker app. That's how they got the money to play high stakes. Not because they battled their way to the top of live poker the way that Chris Brewer did.
@joonlee3668 that might be true but he didn't battle his way live to high stakes. Him and Rampage got rich off the club GG app and that's how they got to play high stakes.
I watched him play 1.3 at Morongo when he was a fish and then he started playing to five and he started to be able to beat that game cuz it's pretty soft and then he started at 5:10 game over there at Morongo for about a year I remember one time he won 17 sessions in a row the games were very Lively there wasn't people that were really great and he was probably one of the most experienced players in the game out of a group of 30 or 40 that might play in it I'm not saying he used all that winnings to move up to high stakes he just happened to be at the right place at the right time because Garrett got knocked out at the Hustler and he kind of took over his spot even though he's nowhere near as good play let's face it the games that Hustler are pretty soft for those steaks @@KrishanBhattacharya
@@KrishanBhattacharya so it may be true that he made millions playing poker, as poker trackers show us he did. But you are convinced Mariano is not using the millions he made playing poker as his bank roll? Why not? He is clearly a winning player and has been at every ladder.
I totally agree with Charlie’s stance as regards GTO in live poker Very refreshing Hes totally right about that The idea of GTO is to break even or win the minimum vs a bot But we play vs humans who are not only human, they’re terrible at pokers GTO concepts cut your win rate Somehow this is controversial, but just read academic papers on game theory The idea is to not let yourself be exploited But no one is exploiting you at the live tables
This is just trolling for marketing purposes. I’m an actual live and online pro. You can only rank Corey higher than the other players if you’re trolling, he has financial interest in Corey, or Charlie has zero true clue how to play poker. There’s no in-between.
6:40 - we can't size just for a call from Kx, right? If we do, what happens when we're bluffing? Sizing for a call from Kx would defeat the purpose of the bluff (assuming you're not simply targeting weaker parts of his range when you're bluffing). Having different sizes for bluffs/value opens us up to being exploitable, no?
Most of the hands are played with nitgame/standup on, so the ranges and strategies are completely different. There were also hands in the last video, where you didn't notice that it was standup game on. Still I like your content though of course, much love ❤️
@@nickgehring1723 standup game should absolutely change your range and strategy, there is far more value in simply winning a pot of any size and that becomes increasingly relevant as more players sit down. In fact you can treat that lingering penalty as a form of dead money in the pot that increases as more players sit down.
Do you know how the dynamics of these games work? It's at least if not more consequential to like, ICM in a final table of a tournament vs chip EV or ranges in a bounty tournament vs freeze out. @nickgehring1723
@nickgehring1723 this really depends on the specific rules, how much bounty value you can win. How many players are left without winning a hand and so on. There are spots where ranges and strategy are completely different. I also played progressive nitgame and other subvariants. Each require different adjustments.
Nit-game changes your range, more so that you can exploit people who will over-correct so as to not payout, rather than the need for you to actually win a hand.
@@_MMWWMM_ Those who are strong won't show, and bluffers will show a single card that 'connects', like the nut flush card (in this case, the king of hearts).
The one hand that would be awful to call with in the 3 hearts flop hand would be AxKh. Even though Kh reduces flush combos significantly, we need to unblock the nut blocker when the riv bet is this polarized.
The first hand on turn where we should lead. I've noticed a lot of people lead small when they lead. What does leading small even accomplish? I like a bigger size.
I definitely need Charlie to critique my game. I’m sure he’d reveal tons of holes in my game and help me by showing me HOW to fix it versus just pointing out what is bad
I’ve watched the majority of Mariano’s vlogs, I’d say this episode is not indicative of his skill level tbh. I’m not saying he’s the greatest but he’s definitely one of the better vloggers and it’s not even close. Also, you’re absolutely correct in the fact he’s advertising for home games.
Yes, your general analysis of Mariano's play is about right, he does provide deeper hand thots once and awhile, but tends to cater to causual players on his channel.....what u didnt see is his ability to call, raise, or fold correctly at a very high rate of success....btw, he pretty much sounds the same in all his videos, but comes across as a humble / well rounded person.....
I personally dont understand why Mariano has a large following, he reminds me alot of Brad owen, both meh players with zero personality. But were first in on this poker live content game, Mariano prob gets mega boost he plays in HCL regularly. But isnt a great player, would get destoryed online in 1/2 6max games. But has mostly ran hotter then the sun.
I like the comment about choosing your ISI size with a purpose in mind... fold equity, heads up, multi way etc. rather than just using a 5X or whatever formula
@ I’ve seen Black Rain and I’ll have to respectfully disagree. I think Bart Hanson is a lot of GTO theory. I’d love to see Charlie’s comments and criticisms.
I'd be curious to see a review of someone like Doug Polk or even Jonathan Little. Actually - I'd also like to see your thoughts on Sethypoker!! I respect your verdict on Mariano but I'm a fan of his style of content even if it maybe comes across as monotone. Between Mariano, Hungry Horse, and Jonathan Little, these are probably the poker content creators I watch the most.
love the series, if you're really focused on youtubers that create content you should check out Rampage, Carrot Corner, James Burton, and AeroPlaysPoker. If you're down to go after Phil Helmuth that would be a great candidate as well.
One note about deciding to lead river if the board pairs I think that decision should be made on the turn good spot to plan ahead if you want to lead or not
The fact that you put Corey of all people above Mariano is absolutely insane and makes me question the legitimacy of your videos. Mariano has had many incredible plays (much, much better than the KK44 hand in this video) and his thought process is clear. He obviously dumbs it down in videos which might be part of the problem with your analysis, but your tier list is just insanely flawed
I don't get how you can talk poorly about GTO concepts when there are players who only use GTO that are wildly more successful than you at poker? I understand live tells are a thing but when you're playing good opponents they don't mean anything.
He’s talking about misapplying gto concepts you’re not playing against a balanced super computer you’re playing a guy who managers wawa up the street If he’s over bluffing you call with all bluff catches if he’s underbluffing you fold everything that’s the gto way of playing him not mdf
A couple of things Charlie. Compliments of the Season to ALL at the Carrel establishment, Have A Cool Yule and thanks for all your Pro Bono content, damn noble of you sir, and here is Wishing You All The Best For The Battle in '25. Did you know Mike Sexton at all apart from just seeing him about the circuit, or were you and he like Jon Little and his wife, they were both friends with Mike for years and I remember when Mike unfortunately passed away Jon's wifey Aimee (A New York Lawyer, no less, Skills Jon, she is lovely too Charlie, Jon did well there) came on Jon's LIVE stream and Jon and her talked of times past that Mike and his partner shared with the Littles. They were both blubbing and it was a heartfelt Farewell to an old buddy and rather poignant, showing a hitherto covert side of Jon, Poker Face JL, the face that caused a thousand folds. Cool series man. Once again, thank you sir.
Not going to lie this is a great content idea especially the ending, putting them on a chart and even bringing other high level pro’s would make this series even more exciting. I rate this play a 10/10 😂
Mariano plays the softest games on the planet and without 2 of the biggest coolers in the history of televised poker going his way in literally the biggest games he has ever played in... he'd be break even after 2 years. His EP play is the worst I've ever seen and he never seems to know whether he's bluffing or VBing... terrible terrible player.
Mariano is an influencer. He's average at best. He wouldn't survive in the Triton series or against most top 1000 players in the world. He finds good games and is usually better than the players at those games. He's nothing special. Having said that, he is 10X better than Corey. Mariano's game is easily exploitable though. He would get run over in most online games with the best players. If he was in live games with solid players, he'd also get run over. Just my opinion.
Maybe he’s successful cause he’s the Joe Rogan of poker streamers. Smart enough to seem really smart to dumbasses but still relatable. I wonder if his popularity is tied to his climb to high stakes and if people live vicariously through him.
How do you go from "you just get it in here" so assertively on the turn, to "no, call is probably better" when Mariano states he should've jammed on the river. (49:33) Wacky analysis Charlie lol, for that one particular hand at least.
Charlie so wrong at the 47 minute mark. Texas Mike is capable of doing so much spewy shit. He could even look at Mariano’s call somehow as not strong enough to withstand another raise and/or keep in some backdoor hands texas Mike will stay in with.
Charlie I highly regard your opinion, most of your viewers do. However, on this one you missed the mark - his vlog is advertising. The guy is simply a crusher, but you would have to watch him over a long stretch to see. Taking snap shots of cherry picked spots will not give you the full picture. Cheers! Nice video and happy holidays .
I've watched Mariano's rise from the beginning and he is a stone-cold kiiler of recreationals. I can understand why Charlie wasn't that impressed by these hands, or the self-deprecating commentary, but Mariano is absolutely printing at Hustler.
everything Mariano does and says in his vlogs is very intentional and calculated to allow him to comfortably thrive in his high stakes pool at Hustler. his image is hyper calculated. just the good ol chill friendly guy who isn’t here to hurt anybody or take things too serious. I don’t think Corey Eyring (love the guy and rooting for his success) has ever had a green year in poker and the fact that you’ve rated him above MARIANO is NUTS lol
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@@MarianoPokerdamn you are here?
Yeh crazy a guy who can't beat 1/2 is rated above Mariano who worked hi way up to 100K + buy ins
Honestly, these videos could be a lot more interesting/entertaining if the reviewer focused more on curiosity over criticism
i know for fact marianos bankroll comes from illegal money this guy is the biggest piece of trash in poker which is why he has no wpt contract because they vet people
Seeing corey ranked anything higher than D tier is crazy. Mariano literally plays games with £100K+... Corey cant even beat 1/2
you know you don't need to beat 1/2 to play 100k+ eh? Most of the guys playing 100k+ also can't beat 1/2
@@gunnarpoker2827 But Marianno did beat 1/2 and 2/5 before advancing further.
Yeah, he ranked Corey higher just because he was his student...rediculous.
This is the one thing about this series that makes me question Charlie's intentions. I've watched a ton of videos from Brad, Mariano and Corey so saying that you learn more about poker from Corey is simply preposterous. Corey is great because of his style and pure degeneracy, not any modicum of poker skills. Not saying he isn't a good poker player but teaching theory isn't even one of his goals (his brother different story, highly educational at low stakes). I would have Brad then Mariano then Corey if it were based on my watchings.
@@yoniker83you’re going to call someone else, “ridiculous,” when you can’t even spell ridiculous? Get better.
Mariano obviously dumbs down his thought process drastically for the casual viewers and people who aren’t thinking about the game at a high level. He didn’t go from 1/3 to 200/400 for no reason. Hes a great player!
Exactly
He's hit and miss. Some very good plays, alot of dreadful ones as well.
Definitely not as good as many think him to be. He plays soft pools, where he can thrive with his skillset. But in no way is he elite in his theoretical understanding of the game.
@@DominationRotation but he doesn’t claim to be an insane player. He is a live stream crusher
Well truthfully a lot of these guys made that move because of youtube money. We also don't know if this guy has a trust fund. Most people consider Negreanu a great player but he has probably had one winning year in a decade, he is a great rigged site marketer though and got rich promoting.
@@Nikkithedog-t6bGG is so rigged lol , you right .
Love this series Charlie, but there’s no world where Corey should be ranked higher than Mariano for learning purposes. If the ranking was based on entertainment then yes, Corey would be top of the list. Not sure if him being your former student played any role in his ranking. Nonetheless, great work Charlie and looking forward to further videos!
We [Mariano fans] like the laid back delivery. It's a feature to be chill.
Will you do Gary Blackwood next
i think its better for him to do all the vloggers with bigger following that his first. Hes benefiting from talking about them. If he talks about Gary hes just giving him a shoutout and helping him ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Seconded
Garry is way better overall but in my opinion Garry is too much focused on GTO in live games.
Yeah, sure thing. Just recorded it based on your request :)
@@CharlieCarrelheck yeah! GazzyB123!
Charlie, It's IMPOSSIBLE that Corey is better than Mariano. I watched both videos, and Mariano played some great poker (KK44 hand for example) while Corey played bad poker (other than zero remarkable hands, it was clear that his bankroll management skill [the most important skill in poker] doesn't exist). Sorry to say that, but it feels like it's just because Corey was your student. Mariano crushes high stakes poker and Corey plays for pennies with his entire tiny bankroll, that's no coincidence.
It makes his "analysis" obsolete when he's so biased
I agree with your overall point, there's no way in hell Mariano is worse than Corey, but bankroll management is definitely not the most important skill. If you're losing at like 20bb/100 because you're a huge whale, it doesn't matter if you have a million buy-ins (apart from you not caring). And yes, definitionally Mariano is crushing high stakes, but when the high stakes in question is HCL and other broadcast poker entertainment, the table isn't really much stronger than an average 2/5 game.
I agree with your overall point, there's no way in hell Mariano is worse than Corey, but bankroll management is definitely not the most important skill. If you're losing at like 20bb/100 because you're a huge whale, it doesn't matter if you have a million buy-ins (apart from you not caring). And yes, definitionally Mariano is crushing high stakes, but when the high stakes in question is HCL and other broadcast poker entertainment, the table isn't really much stronger than an average 2/5 game.
@@thomasmuller4716 bankroll MANAGEMENT is most important since without it, you can be the absolute best in the world in every other aspect of the game and still lose everything in one session.
As to your example, with a proper br management, if you’re a losing player, proper br management dictates you mostly study and play far less than your study time (and that’s for practice purposes only) the lowest stakes possible until you’re winning enough to move up, thus mitigating your losses to a minimum.
BR management is the first and foremost most important skill in poker. Corey is an extreme example of not having any, with videos titled “gambling my entire net worth”. Even in the video “analyzed” by Charlie he said “I have to gamble in a situation in which I can’t afford to gamble” - clearly playing above what proper brm would dictate. So to my mind, not even an F tier.
Btw Mariano beat 5/10 and 10/20 too, before moving up, check out his channel…
@@thomasmuller4716 The best player in the world in every other aspect can lose his entire br within one session without BRM skills.
BRM for losing players = study most of the time, play for practice the smallest stakes possible.
Rating Corey (a player with videos titles “gambling my entire networth”) who literally said in the video which Charlie analyzed “I have to gamble where I can’t afford to gamble”, as anything but F is a joke. This makes Charlie’s rating system nothing but a random piece of entertainment not to be taken seriously.
You've got to highlight Rampage. I'm sure it would be hilarious.
Didn't he already rate Rampage??
Or will you do Carrot Corner guy?
I think an interesting idea could be “how really good are my subscribers at poker” and they send in some of their hands and you break down their thought processes
That's what Bart at CLP does. You guys should do a collab
Thank you! I always felt like Mariano’s commentary was hollow. Great to hear your analysis of the hands and of his own commentary.
Mariano definitely underplays how deeply he thinks about the game, but he’s probably the best of the main stream vloggers
People say this… but what if, he’s just not good enough
@@Farts_McCool he’s for sure better than Corey by a huge margin, and on Charlie’s he’s worse by a huge margin. What a joke.
Please do Bart Hansen. I literally check every day to see if there’s a new one of these out. Love this series. Thank you Charlie!
Mariano knows one of the golden rules of playing profitable poker. Find soft games you can beat. That is what he does, dont think he cares if anybody thinks he is good or not.
Used to battle 5/10 w/ you on stars way back. And am former RIO coach.
If you're gauging this on who to best learn from, I disagree with giving hands like the 97 river bluff raise such a high score. This isn't something to be teaching people who don't understand poker. They are going to end up making bad reads and over bluffing.
I agree he could have gone more in depth in a lot of his explanations, and I agree about considering leading more often though I wouldn't denigrate him for having this more robotic style becauae it is a very strong style and it works. I played extremely similarly to this for most of my high stakes career.
Also, this is UA-cam, it's not like a professionally made training video. I would have rated his play higher.
In any case, thought the most brilliant thing you said was about overall mindset and embodying that energy of being lucky and being a winner. Very very key for success in anything in life.
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maybe he's good, maybe he's not but you cannot decide that on some entertainment videos. It would be stupid of him to expose all of his thought process; his opponents will have a great advantage on the next games
Hey Charlie. Are you using OBS? If so, consider putting a limiter/compressor on your mic, and perhaps some other filters to prevent your volume from peaking and distorting.
Gary blackwood or phil galfond next please
There’s no point doing galfond everyone knows he’s unreal
@@tomsiddle7583 exactly
Charlie isn't on phils level and has no business judging Phil's level of strategy and play. Nothing against Charlie but he's not on that level imo!
😂Charlie would have to be at galfond level to judge him
@@mychaelmitchell4632 yeah galfond is better than Charlie online, Charlie is better than galfond Live, he’s too good to for him to judge.
You mention feeling bored, which i can appreciate. I watch his vlogs frequently because i dont enjoy hearing dudes yell 1 TIME DEALER and BANGGG with a shaking video. It’s a relaxed environment and stakes which i will never play so it drives interest.
I didn't know wolfgang had that many subs, but I'm glad he does and I hope people are watching it to learn how to play... especially in my games :p
Once you've done with the tier list, host a party with all these players and see how far they go against you 😏
The absolute hubris to be uploading these types of videos with these types of titles is breathtaking. Stunning.
Got you to comment lol
i love charlie... bro cashed millions in poker and is still streaming in grandmas kitchen. stay grounded 👌
Ooo.. ok, I'm paused at the "what would you do" facing a bet and a raise on the flop while out of position. SO, based on the game, positions, maybe some observation, bot of my opponents can be pretty wide. Either Mike or Vinny can have a lot of hands that contain over cards + hearts and those hands do tend to get sticky, and both players can potentially have a set of deuces. So this is the thicc part of the range that I want to extract max from. The question is, is there enough medium pocket pairs and 54 suited and 6x hands that I may also want to target.
I think if I just overcall I either lose the hand or lose value when a flush or straightening card come in. So I want to 3-bet. And I think if I come over the top a lot of pocket pairs and 6x hands are going to fold whether or not I go big or small. So I think I want to make it like $11,000 to target pocket deuces and overcard+heart hands.
The point at the end about the mindset of saying to yourself “I run so good” is very helpful. When I am running well, I say that to myself, and I see a big increase in my exploitation mindset. I’m finding those creative bluffs and thin value bets and upping my aggression against capped ranges. There’s no logical reason to have a mindset that the deck has doomed you and that makes you play -EV poker.
Hey Charlie, i love your content and style of talking about the hands. Will u offer a course thats affordable for low stakes poker players?
He's always seemed to be a bit of a luckbox but I generally enjoy watching him play. But I do think this is generally how he talks? Like Marc Goone he's also got a musical gig as well
52:55 disagree with calling this dialogue empty, when Mariano basically says "this player is more likely to be here therefore I'll check, although mixing in some % of bets is important to avoid being too predictable against a player I play against often". Basically bet x% and check y% where we are exploitatively increasing x vs what is our baseline, but not going 1:0 because we can get counterexploited in the long term.
I think your points are valid and I appreciate an unbiased view, but I do think there is a bit of breakdown with Mariano's delivery to understand its depth (because he says it so casually). Maybe the point that he makes is so obvious to you that it seems trivial, though.
We don’t want poker vloggers to teach poker, we want entertainment. Last thing we want is people getting better, games are hard enough
I'd love to see you do a video on Garrett, even though you would have to go only based on his decisions and not his thought process, I'd think it'd still be interesting
I use to not like your vids due to how often you bashed GTO, but now I realize you are definitely a thinking poker player with good analysis, so I like the vids. If you ever get the chance, I would love for you to analyze bluffaloSams game!
These videos are sooo good. When i hear the decisions and thought process of yours and they match with mine - im so happy😅
Thanks and bless you
I think Mariano is a hidden poker genius. He gets invited to often soft rich guy games at HCL and exploits alot of poor to average players. He has gone from $1/$3 to as high as $200/$400 in 3 years and posts his annual wins in deep 6 figure amounts. His game appears elite because of the soft games he is in
I agree with everything. Except soft games.
He only has been able to jump stakes because he's got a ton of income coming from the rake online games he runs.
He didn't just casually run up a multimillion dollar bankroll from $1/$3 in 3 years.
@joshuakennedy8094 so what? Even if that's true, he did well for himself.
Mariano makes a lot of $$ off his UA-cam channel. $100k plus
@@oskars82 the point is that he jumped stakes because he had alternative income coming in.
Not because hes a "hidden poker genius" as you suggested.
He's just another idiot with money who got to skip over all the hard parts of grinding it up and now he sits in cushy home games that anyone with a brain can beat, all because even bigger idiots want to play poker with the youtube famous guy.
I used to think that Mariano was good and that he battled his way to high stakes. Then I found out that he and rampage got rich off using their UA-cam success to purchase a cut in the club GG poker app. That's how they got the money to play high stakes. Not because they battled their way to the top of live poker the way that Chris Brewer did.
Mariano net profit is over 1.5 milliom according to poker tracker lol. Hes winning player are u a winning player?
@joonlee3668 that might be true but he didn't battle his way live to high stakes. Him and Rampage got rich off the club GG app and that's how they got to play high stakes.
I watched him play 1.3 at Morongo when he was a fish and then he started playing to five and he started to be able to beat that game cuz it's pretty soft and then he started at 5:10 game over there at Morongo for about a year I remember one time he won 17 sessions in a row the games were very Lively there wasn't people that were really great and he was probably one of the most experienced players in the game out of a group of 30 or 40 that might play in it I'm not saying he used all that winnings to move up to high stakes he just happened to be at the right place at the right time because Garrett got knocked out at the Hustler and he kind of took over his spot even though he's nowhere near as good play let's face it the games that Hustler are pretty soft for those steaks @@KrishanBhattacharya
@@joonlee3668lmao, nice thought process
@@KrishanBhattacharya so it may be true that he made millions playing poker, as poker trackers show us he did. But you are convinced Mariano is not using the millions he made playing poker as his bank roll? Why not? He is clearly a winning player and has been at every ladder.
Please do rampage. Please please please. Also how much is the tells course?
this is just the video i need charlie, its my birthday lets go.
Yooo Happy Birthday 👑
CC- any thoughts about how KK no club should approach F, T, R?
What happened to the Gary Blackwood vid?
I totally agree with Charlie’s stance as regards GTO in live poker
Very refreshing
Hes totally right about that
The idea of GTO is to break even or win the minimum vs a bot
But we play vs humans who are not only human, they’re terrible at pokers
GTO concepts cut your win rate
Somehow this is controversial, but just read academic papers on game theory
The idea is to not let yourself be exploited
But no one is exploiting you at the live tables
Me literally driving to my friends in Kentucky to play poker 😂😂
Charlie, this series has reignited my love for poker 🙏
Would love to see a video on Ryan Depaulo . Hilarious poker content creator.
This is just trolling for marketing purposes. I’m an actual live and online pro. You can only rank Corey higher than the other players if you’re trolling, he has financial interest in Corey, or Charlie has zero true clue how to play poker. There’s no in-between.
Please come down to the Tampa Bay Hard Rock and put your name down on any list. We would love to play with you.
6:40 - we can't size just for a call from Kx, right? If we do, what happens when we're bluffing? Sizing for a call from Kx would defeat the purpose of the bluff (assuming you're not simply targeting weaker parts of his range when you're bluffing).
Having different sizes for bluffs/value opens us up to being exploitable, no?
Most of the hands are played with nitgame/standup on, so the ranges and strategies are completely different. There were also hands in the last video, where you didn't notice that it was standup game on.
Still I like your content though of course, much love ❤️
standup game should not change your range and strategy to much. If you do you're going to make many mistakes
@@nickgehring1723 standup game should absolutely change your range and strategy, there is far more value in simply winning a pot of any size and that becomes increasingly relevant as more players sit down. In fact you can treat that lingering penalty as a form of dead money in the pot that increases as more players sit down.
Do you know how the dynamics of these games work? It's at least if not more consequential to like, ICM in a final table of a tournament vs chip EV or ranges in a bounty tournament vs freeze out. @nickgehring1723
@nickgehring1723 this really depends on the specific rules, how much bounty value you can win. How many players are left without winning a hand and so on. There are spots where ranges and strategy are completely different. I also played progressive nitgame and other subvariants. Each require different adjustments.
Nit-game changes your range, more so that you can exploit people who will over-correct so as to not payout, rather than the need for you to actually win a hand.
'will you fold if i show?' how do people give away a tell here?
@@_MMWWMM_ Those who are strong won't show, and bluffers will show a single card that 'connects', like the nut flush card (in this case, the king of hearts).
The one hand that would be awful to call with in the 3 hearts flop hand would be AxKh. Even though Kh reduces flush combos significantly, we need to unblock the nut blocker when the riv bet is this polarized.
Gambledore aka Vladimir Korzinin (played at triton recently, made antonius break character at FT) would be the most fun to watch
Where did the Blackwood video go? I wasn't finished. Great video!
I was 45 minutes into it. It was my favorite one so far.
Yeah, I paused it to watch it later, and it's gone
I am a penny fun player. Do you think spending 2 hours a day memorizing GTO tables to balance my range is a good use of my time?
The first hand on turn where we should lead. I've noticed a lot of people lead small when they lead. What does leading small even accomplish? I like a bigger size.
Loving this series Mr. Carrel, keep it up!
I definitely need Charlie to critique my game. I’m sure he’d reveal tons of holes in my game and help me by showing me HOW to fix it versus just pointing out what is bad
Can you critique Aero Poker next?
I dont think most vloggers are trying to teach you it is for entertainment only
I’ve watched the majority of Mariano’s vlogs, I’d say this episode is not indicative of his skill level tbh. I’m not saying he’s the greatest but he’s definitely one of the better vloggers and it’s not even close. Also, you’re absolutely correct in the fact he’s advertising for home games.
Yes, your general analysis of Mariano's play is about right, he does provide deeper hand thots once and awhile, but tends to cater to causual players on his channel.....what u didnt see is his ability to call, raise, or fold correctly at a very high rate of success....btw, he pretty much sounds the same in all his videos, but comes across as a humble / well rounded person.....
I personally dont understand why Mariano has a large following, he reminds me alot of Brad owen, both meh players with zero personality. But were first in on this poker live content game, Mariano prob gets mega boost he plays in HCL regularly. But isnt a great player, would get destoryed online in 1/2 6max games. But has mostly ran hotter then the sun.
Nah holmie, you nailed it. Been playing since 1997. Word.
I like the comment about choosing your ISI size with a purpose in mind... fold equity, heads up, multi way etc. rather than just using a 5X or whatever formula
What happened to the GazzyB video, I really enjoyed it!
It got zinked by UA-cam 👿
I'll repost on my site once my team wakes up
I’d love your critique of Bart Hanson, who I think is amazing.
@@user-ld6zk6qj6w Bart Hanson’s advice is pure toxic to your poker, same level as black rain, close to disinformation.
@ I’ve seen Black Rain and I’ll have to respectfully disagree. I think Bart Hanson is a lot of GTO theory. I’d love to see Charlie’s comments and criticisms.
@ Hansen is GTO? Hahaha. That’s hilarious. The man is nut peddling as fk, and has tons of bad advice, much like blackrain, the 2NL reg.
I'd be curious to see a review of someone like Doug Polk or even Jonathan Little.
Actually - I'd also like to see your thoughts on Sethypoker!!
I respect your verdict on Mariano but I'm a fan of his style of content even if it maybe comes across as monotone.
Between Mariano, Hungry Horse, and Jonathan Little, these are probably the poker content creators I watch the most.
love the series, if you're really focused on youtubers that create content you should check out Rampage, Carrot Corner, James Burton, and AeroPlaysPoker. If you're down to go after Phil Helmuth that would be a great candidate as well.
I’d like to see you rate Aero Poker. His channel is Aero innovations. He’s a Vegas pro that’s been a pro for 15 years. He mainly plays 2/5 at Wynn
Do Jonathan Little. He is my favorite poker UA-camr but focuses heavily on GTO.
When are we reviewing this epiphany77 guy? Some people say hes really good but im unsure..
One note about deciding to lead river if the board pairs I think that decision should be made on the turn good spot to plan ahead if you want to lead or not
God, I so appreciate what you're doing. Keep going.
IM REALLY ENJOYING YOUR TAKE i think im hooked
like that series. rampage would be good content for sure.
Never thought I would see the day where Charlie is the new Doug Polk insulting others
Do Ryan DePaulo, it would be entertaining!
Patrik Antonious, Rampage, Polk, Bart Hanson, Negreanu, Lex Veldhuis, Tom Dwan.
he's playing 25-50 . he is better than 99% of the viewers here
What happened to the review of Gary Blackwood review. Why did you take it down?
Microphone is clipping pretty badly, need to turn the input levels down.
Do Jaman Burton - The Drawing Dead.
please adjust your microphone gain. its blown out
Really enjoying these would like to see Peter Clarke
Gary Blackwood, please.
The fact that you put Corey of all people above Mariano is absolutely insane and makes me question the legitimacy of your videos. Mariano has had many incredible plays (much, much better than the KK44 hand in this video) and his thought process is clear. He obviously dumbs it down in videos which might be part of the problem with your analysis, but your tier list is just insanely flawed
I don't get how you can talk poorly about GTO concepts when there are players who only use GTO that are wildly more successful than you at poker? I understand live tells are a thing but when you're playing good opponents they don't mean anything.
because he wants to sell his courses.
He’s talking about misapplying gto concepts you’re not playing against a balanced super computer you’re playing a guy who managers wawa up the street
If he’s over bluffing you call with all bluff catches if he’s underbluffing you fold everything that’s the gto way of playing him not mdf
Here for the Rampunt episode, can't wait!
At this rate he is going to say Rampage is a 10/10 player. Lol
Pls do Bluffalo Sam
A couple of things Charlie. Compliments of the Season to ALL at the Carrel establishment, Have A Cool Yule and thanks for all your Pro Bono content, damn noble of you sir, and here is Wishing You All The Best For The Battle in '25. Did you know Mike Sexton at all apart from just seeing him about the circuit, or were you and he like Jon Little and his wife, they were both friends with Mike for years and I remember when Mike unfortunately passed away Jon's wifey Aimee (A New York Lawyer, no less, Skills Jon, she is lovely too Charlie, Jon did well there) came on Jon's LIVE stream and Jon and her talked of times past that Mike and his partner shared with the Littles. They were both blubbing and it was a heartfelt Farewell to an old buddy and rather poignant, showing a hitherto covert side of Jon, Poker Face JL, the face that caused a thousand folds. Cool series man. Once again, thank you sir.
Not going to lie this is a great content idea especially the ending, putting them on a chart and even bringing other high level pro’s would make this series even more exciting. I rate this play a 10/10 😂
Haha watching from Kentucky, cheers Charlie
Mariano plays the softest games on the planet and without 2 of the biggest coolers in the history of televised poker going his way in literally the biggest games he has ever played in... he'd be break even after 2 years. His EP play is the worst I've ever seen and he never seems to know whether he's bluffing or VBing... terrible terrible player.
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Mariano is an influencer. He's average at best. He wouldn't survive in the Triton series or against most top 1000 players in the world. He finds good games and is usually better than the players at those games. He's nothing special. Having said that, he is 10X better than Corey. Mariano's game is easily exploitable though. He would get run over in most online games with the best players. If he was in live games with solid players, he'd also get run over. Just my opinion.
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Maybe he’s successful cause he’s the Joe Rogan of poker streamers. Smart enough to seem really smart to dumbasses but still relatable. I wonder if his popularity is tied to his climb to high stakes and if people live vicariously through him.
How do you go from "you just get it in here" so assertively on the turn, to "no, call is probably better" when Mariano states he should've jammed on the river. (49:33) Wacky analysis Charlie lol, for that one particular hand at least.
8:32. In a lot of nit games you have to show to get rid of the nit button so it may just be because of the side game not advertising.
Charlie so wrong at the 47 minute mark. Texas Mike is capable of doing so much spewy shit. He could even look at Mariano’s call somehow as not strong enough to withstand another raise and/or keep in some backdoor hands texas Mike will stay in with.
Charlie I highly regard your opinion, most of your viewers do. However, on this one you missed the mark - his vlog is advertising. The guy is simply a crusher, but you would have to watch him over a long stretch to see. Taking snap shots of cherry picked spots will not give you the full picture. Cheers! Nice video and happy holidays .
Am I trippin or did the gazzy b video get deleted???
I've watched Mariano's rise from the beginning and he is a stone-cold kiiler of recreationals. I can understand why Charlie wasn't that impressed by these hands, or the self-deprecating commentary, but Mariano is absolutely printing at Hustler.
How about Keating with this analysis
Always look forward to your vids Charlie you are my goat, beautiful human being
I want to see you play in these games