Thank you for making this video series. It's such a valuable insight into the LGBT community of South Korea, which I think is largely unknown to foreigners who don't know the Korean language. I wanted to provide some additional context for the word "bromance" from an American perspective. A big reason behind its history is because men in this country are often discouraged from having close friendships with each other the way women do. Particularly back in the 2000s when the word "bromance" was at its peak of popularity, if two men were close with each other, even if they were both heterosexual, it was seen as "being gay." So calling it a "bromance" was a (maybe ironic) way of acknowledging this. It's very silly; there's no reason they couldn't just call it "best friends" the way women do. So you're right that it can be homophobic, especially when used to erase actual gay relationships, but I think the original word has an element of patriarchy/toxic masculinity involved, as well. 이 모든 것을 한국어로 말하고 싶었지만 아직 배우는 중이에요 ㅠㅠ 다음 영상도 기대하겠습니다!
i scrolled down here to make sure someone had addressed this! tbh from their discussion it sounds like the word is being used the same way in Korea as it is in the US
와 제목부터 뭔가 공감하고 들어왔네요. 생각해보니까 진짜 한국사회 살면서 많이 느꼈어요...퀴어코드 언급을 해도 절대 선은 넘지말라는 뉘앙스를 풍기는 컨텐츠도 너무 많았고요. 현재 인식이 많이 나아졌다고는 해도 미디어에 비추는거 자체는 꺼려하는 사람들도 많죠. '내가 이론적으로는 반박할 수 없어서 너네는 인정하지만 메인스트림에는 나오지마, 그 이상은 하지마' 와 같이 2등시민으로 남겨두려는듯한 압박을 강하게 느껴요. 솔직히 같은 퀴어들도 이런 시류에 동참하는 부류들이 있는것도 한 몫하는 것 같고요.
I really liked how you talked about fans being a part of kpop not just the producers, and if fans are queer and interpreting it in a queer way then yes kpop is queer. This is also how I see it!
I just found this channel quite randomly. I am really enjoying the content and discussions! The subtitles are also very well done and I can tell a lot of time and effort were put into them. Also, respectfully, Ju Yeon is cute cute cute
Thank you for making this video series. It's such a valuable insight into the LGBT community of South Korea, which I think is largely unknown to foreigners who don't know the Korean language.
I wanted to provide some additional context for the word "bromance" from an American perspective. A big reason behind its history is because men in this country are often discouraged from having close friendships with each other the way women do. Particularly back in the 2000s when the word "bromance" was at its peak of popularity, if two men were close with each other, even if they were both heterosexual, it was seen as "being gay." So calling it a "bromance" was a (maybe ironic) way of acknowledging this. It's very silly; there's no reason they couldn't just call it "best friends" the way women do. So you're right that it can be homophobic, especially when used to erase actual gay relationships, but I think the original word has an element of patriarchy/toxic masculinity involved, as well.
이 모든 것을 한국어로 말하고 싶었지만 아직 배우는 중이에요 ㅠㅠ 다음 영상도 기대하겠습니다!
i scrolled down here to make sure someone had addressed this! tbh from their discussion it sounds like the word is being used the same way in Korea as it is in the US
너무 좋은 프로그램이에요❤
"bromance and girl crush are queer erasing" is one of the best summaries to describe these two terms, thanks for making this video
와 제목부터 뭔가 공감하고 들어왔네요. 생각해보니까 진짜 한국사회 살면서 많이 느꼈어요...퀴어코드 언급을 해도 절대 선은 넘지말라는 뉘앙스를 풍기는 컨텐츠도 너무 많았고요. 현재 인식이 많이 나아졌다고는 해도 미디어에 비추는거 자체는 꺼려하는 사람들도 많죠. '내가 이론적으로는 반박할 수 없어서 너네는 인정하지만 메인스트림에는 나오지마, 그 이상은 하지마' 와 같이 2등시민으로 남겨두려는듯한 압박을 강하게 느껴요. 솔직히 같은 퀴어들도 이런 시류에 동참하는 부류들이 있는것도 한 몫하는 것 같고요.
I really liked how you talked about fans being a part of kpop not just the producers, and if fans are queer and interpreting it in a queer way then yes kpop is queer. This is also how I see it!
I just found this channel quite randomly. I am really enjoying the content and discussions! The subtitles are also very well done and I can tell a lot of time and effort were put into them. Also, respectfully, Ju Yeon is cute cute cute