Make another follow up so we can talk about how nerfed lugia has been from not only losing some moves like psycho shift and (toxic if it returns this gen) and powercreep that it has been considered for an OU test a few times. Also gengar might be rubl this gen
Worth noting Weavile has Knock Off again as of the Teal Mask DLC. Tyranitar also got Knock Off recently, but there's still no good sand abusers. Toxapex still cannot learn Scald, by the way, but Alomomola can (alongside getting Flip Turn).
I'd love to see levitate on gengar and og gale wings back, base gengar was never too overpowered and didn't need to lose levitate, talonflame was strong xy but even in that gen it eventually fell off before the nerf so imagine it today with all the power creep and all the fire and flying competition,
Priority tailwind + brave bird are just too much for vgc. Imagine if gale wings doesn't get nerfed. Talonflame can just spam tera flying brave bird in gen 9
@@ispeakcockney grassy glide got nerfed cuz cuz rillaboom was good mon with coverage and good attack and was always paired with choice band, but also the move was overturned with rillaboom+ GTerrain. It just had the perfect circumstances to be powerful especially since urshifu was prominent.I don't remember what suck punch was pre nerf tho. Talon flame wouldn't be broken cuz we have priority tailwind and high damage the real issue wasn't tailwind or brave bird it was roost.
Skarmory i'd say. While I don't think it was nefered per say, but It has been one of the mons effected by power creep most especially since corvaknight exist and the H-Sammorout giving it no chance as a spike setter
That's not getting nerfed. It just got outclassed, sadly lol. But then again, Skarmory and Corivnight can both play different roles from each other, which is probably why Skarmory was in OU for a bit in gen 8.
and also Krookodile, Goodra, and Lycanroc-Dusk Krookodile - buffed Knock Off, Close Combat, Gunk Shot Goodra - one of the remaining Toxic users, got Scald when it is one of the remaining Scald users, and Knock Off Lycanroc-Dusk - Close Combat, Play Rough, Psychic Fangs
Now add Shiftry, Torterra, Empoleon, and Alomomola to the “Most Buffed Pokémon” list Shiftry - Sucker Punch, Buffed Knock Off, Heat Wave, and then Early Bird > Wind Rider in addition to Taunt, Toxic Spikes, and Will-O-Wisp Torterra - Shell Smash, and to an lesser extent Headlong Rush, Rock Blast, and Trailblaze Empoleon - Defiant > Competitive, Roost, Flip Turn, Haze, Vacuum Wave Alomomola - Flip Turn, also one of the only Scald users and don’t forget Mantine Mantine - Roost and 20+ HP
Well at least Gengar Aegislash and Darkrai are still great Pokemon btw they should give Gengar levitate back and dark void should get is accurate back to what it was previously
Gengar getting levitate removed is one of tbe dumbest, underserving and ilogical changes ever made, gengar was not even broken and also it alos canonnacly floats
This really makes me wonder what kind of data gamefreak is using to make these decisions, i understand VGC is where it comes from but their take aways sometimes just throw me off
chansey and blissey should get more nerfs because they are still really annoying, basically every especial attacker that dont have psyshock its useless if one of them its on the other team. probably the pokemons i hate the most, alongside alolomola
I’ll never forgive game freak for removing Levitate from Gengar. And lowering Dark Void’s accuracy to 50%
Thank god they lowered Dark Void’s accuracy to 50% if it was me I'd lower it to 30% and this is me being nice.
Make another follow up so we can talk about how nerfed lugia has been from not only losing some moves like psycho shift and (toxic if it returns this gen) and powercreep that it has been considered for an OU test a few times.
Also gengar might be rubl this gen
Great vid! very good content lately. I do feel like the lati twins could be here due to soul dew getting removed
Do the top 5 buffed Pokémon next
Mr craw gotta be on that list
lopunny and mawile be like:
Pelipper and torkoal 🌚
@@yaboichris1256clefable, dragonite, greninja, VgC megas, venusuar
@@plhbuschannel
They received nothing now that megas are gone, they are permanently bad mons now unless they get an evo
another reason for the vgc drop off was that stance change only works with kings shield and it gets changed into max guard when dynamaxed
Losing Levitate hurt a lot, but Gengar is still a good Pokemon so idk if I agree with it being placed on this list.
Worth noting Weavile has Knock Off again as of the Teal Mask DLC. Tyranitar also got Knock Off recently, but there's still no good sand abusers.
Toxapex still cannot learn Scald, by the way, but Alomomola can (alongside getting Flip Turn).
I'd love to see levitate on gengar and og gale wings back, base gengar was never too overpowered and didn't need to lose levitate, talonflame was strong xy but even in that gen it eventually fell off before the nerf so imagine it today with all the power creep and all the fire and flying competition,
Priority tailwind + brave bird are just too much for vgc. Imagine if gale wings doesn't get nerfed. Talonflame can just spam tera flying brave bird in gen 9
@@ispeakcockney trust me its not that broken anymore, or wouldn't be cuz we have mons like that vgc rn
@smokeyjoseph1790 Grassy glide is nerfed because of how strong it was. Sucker punch had also been nerfed in gen 7
@@ispeakcockney grassy glide got nerfed cuz cuz rillaboom was good mon with coverage and good attack and was always paired with choice band, but also the move was overturned with rillaboom+ GTerrain. It just had the perfect circumstances to be powerful especially since urshifu was prominent.I don't remember what suck punch was pre nerf tho. Talon flame wouldn't be broken cuz we have priority tailwind and high damage the real issue wasn't tailwind or brave bird it was roost.
Whoa.... I never thought the pink blobs would fall!!!!
Top 5 buffed Pokémon next?
Skarmory i'd say. While I don't think it was nefered per say, but It has been one of the mons effected by power creep most especially since corvaknight exist and the H-Sammorout giving it no chance as a spike setter
That's not getting nerfed. It just got outclassed, sadly lol. But then again, Skarmory and Corivnight can both play different roles from each other, which is probably why Skarmory was in OU for a bit in gen 8.
I binge your videos and now I have that city background music stuck in my head (and I forgot what city it was, but I’m guessing it’s from B&W?!)
Nacrene city from BW :)
and also Krookodile, Goodra, and Lycanroc-Dusk
Krookodile - buffed Knock Off, Close Combat, Gunk Shot
Goodra - one of the remaining Toxic users, got Scald when it is one of the remaining Scald users, and Knock Off
Lycanroc-Dusk - Close Combat, Play Rough, Psychic Fangs
Now add Shiftry, Torterra, Empoleon, and Alomomola to the “Most Buffed Pokémon” list
Shiftry - Sucker Punch, Buffed Knock Off, Heat Wave, and then Early Bird > Wind Rider in addition to Taunt, Toxic Spikes, and Will-O-Wisp
Torterra - Shell Smash, and to an lesser extent Headlong Rush, Rock Blast, and Trailblaze
Empoleon - Defiant > Competitive, Roost, Flip Turn, Haze, Vacuum Wave
Alomomola - Flip Turn, also one of the only Scald users
and don’t forget Mantine
Mantine - Roost and 20+ HP
Well at least Gengar Aegislash and Darkrai are still great Pokemon btw they should give Gengar levitate back and dark void should get is accurate back to what it was previously
Gengar getting levitate removed is one of tbe dumbest, underserving and ilogical changes ever made, gengar was not even broken and also it alos canonnacly floats
It got nerfed because of mega gengar, and for some reason instead of removing megas in Gen 7 they just decided to nerf gengar
Idk. It's clearly standing on the ground in its sprites and 3D models.
@@Dankfortin pokemon colosseum, a lot of flying pokemon are not actually flying, but that doesn't mean that they can be hit by ground moves
Good contenders for the Top 5 most buffed (Megas and Tera Types not included cause those are temporary):
Nidoqueen - Psychic nerfed, Toxic Spikes, Sheer Force, Fairy existing
Nidoking - Psychic nerfed, Megahorn, Sheer Force, Fairy type existing
Clefable - Magic Guard, Unaware, Stored Power, Fairy typing and 10+ Sp. Atk, buffed Knock Off, buffed Teleport
Ninetales - Drought
Venomoth - Psychic nerfed, special Bug and Poison STAB, Quiver Dance+Tinted Lens, Fairy existing
Cloyster - Spikes, physical STAB, Shell Smash+Skill Link
Gyarados- Intimidate+Dragon Dance, physical Water STAB, Moxie
Dragonite - Dragon STAB, Dragon Dance, physical Dragon STAB, more accessible Extreme Speed, Multiscale, (Weakness Policy, Heavy Duty Boots,) Dual Wingbeat
Azumarill - Huge Power, physical STAB, Aqua Jet, Belly Drum, Fairy typing, Aqua Jet+Belly Drum at once
Quagsire - Unaware+Scald
Politoed - Drizzle
Scizor - Technician and then Bullet Punch shortly after, U-Turn, Bug Bite, Superpower, Roost, buffed Defog
Blaziken - Speed Boost
Pelipper - Drizzle and 10+ Sp. Atk
Gardevoir - Fairy typing, Mystical Fire, Aura Sphere
Breloom - physical Grass STAB, Poison Heal, Technician, buffed Drain Punch, Close Combat+Gunk Shot+Bulldoze
Torkoal - Drought
Crawdaunt - physical STAB, Adaptability, Aqua Jet, buffed Knock Off and Crabhammer
Floatzel - Wave Crash
Gastrodon - buffed Storm Drain
Gallade - Sharpness and Sacred Sword
Gigalith - 10+ Sp. Def and then Sand Stream
Scolipede - Speed Boost and 10+ Atk
Beartic - Play Rough, 20+ Atk, Slush Rush, Liquidation, Close Combat and Earthquake
Oricorio - Quiver Dance
Kommo-o - Close Combat, Drain Punch, Elemental Punches, Clangorous Soul(blaze), Stealth Rock, Aura Sphere (and Throat Spray held-item), Body Press
Rillaboom - Grassy Surge released and then Grassy Glide
Drednaw - Shell Smash
And Volcarona
@@tysondennis1016Why Volcarona
@@Ascera_existsprobably cause boots and tera
@@Magmatical add victini since boots, defog distribution, and tera were huge for it
@@blazie42069 victini isn't even in the game yet tho
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This really makes me wonder what kind of data gamefreak is using to make these decisions, i understand VGC is where it comes from but their take aways sometimes just throw me off
I doubt they look at the English side of things, probably anything that comes up on the Japanese side.
@@tejasdixit4417 makes sense, do you know anyone that covers the meta game on jp?
Probably worlds of that year/gen
This is not how top 5 lists work. If the previous ones were the top five, this would be the 6-10 portion of the top ten.
chansey and blissey should get more nerfs because they are still really annoying, basically every especial attacker that dont have psyshock its useless if one of them its on the other team. probably the pokemons i hate the most, alongside alolomola
They’re already PU and NU now, what more should they lose?
I wish they rebuff Blissey😡