The Season 9 Hanzo experience (Placements)

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  • Опубліковано 15 лют 2024
  • 8000+ hours of Hanzo experience, trying out the new Hanzo changes for Season 9, finishing the first placements!
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  • @Arrge
    @Arrge  4 місяці тому +46

    Trying out some new hanzo ideas live on stream today twitch.tv/arrge (or ua-cam.com/users/arrgelive ) DROPS ONLY ON TWITCH THO (cool zen skin + weapon charm)

    • @regachref9952
      @regachref9952 4 місяці тому +1

      yo arrge is it the time u retire XD after what blizzard did to ow2 it is a sarcastic joke im not good with eng so

    • @danisob3633
      @danisob3633 4 місяці тому +1

      meowing for the algorythm

    • @berseker704
      @berseker704 4 місяці тому

      bro thx for the long video. I need it after a 24hr turn at the worst hospital ever

    • @user-ce2yb1lu2b
      @user-ce2yb1lu2b 4 місяці тому

      😂i strived to be like you ( even became main hanzo cause of ur videos)
      but instead you went and became like me ( spamHanzo😢)
      what they did to our boy 😂 ?!
      bigger videos and less edit nice af keep the goos job ✌️

    • @michaelchamberlin3182
      @michaelchamberlin3182 4 місяці тому

      my opinion doesn't matter because I'm hard stuck diamond :D

  • @evemartinez8519
    @evemartinez8519 4 місяці тому +399

    Hanzo mains didn't want it for headshots to be easier, it was about earning those headshots.

    • @Gocolas
      @Gocolas 4 місяці тому +11

      absolutely

    • @GeneralBronze
      @GeneralBronze 4 місяці тому +27

      Could not have said it better myself, this game requires no skill after this update and it sucks to see

    • @stardawngenjipro
      @stardawngenjipro 4 місяці тому

      Fr

    • @raykkun
      @raykkun 4 місяці тому

      FR

    • @mrjokerpt2.041
      @mrjokerpt2.041 4 місяці тому +2

      I just think is ironic that people asked (i mean cried) for changes and when they get what theu wanted people still complained, for good or for bad the OW cant never win with a b*tchy fanbase like this

  • @dimitridionissiou1000
    @dimitridionissiou1000 4 місяці тому +596

    The whole point of Hanzo is using his kit to get advantages to catch enemies off guard, and his kit was perfect for that. What they did just amplified the things people complained about, with him spamming tree trunks and took away any skill expression. He would have already been bad in this meta (since he can’t often re-apply the DPS passive), but this makes him awful and not enjoyable.

    • @angeltorres9232
      @angeltorres9232 4 місяці тому +18

      hanzo now has to rely on confirming kills since he still has big damage, and spam choke holds like he always did

    • @diogosousa7698
      @diogosousa7698 4 місяці тому +20

      yup now is spamming simulator why have skill to aim for their head just spam and its the same thing basically

    • @he.5865
      @he.5865 4 місяці тому +3

      It's hardly any bigger and the lack of one shot makes it much less frustrating.

    • @felipez3115
      @felipez3115 4 місяці тому +5

      All I read was : bla bla bla yap yap yap.

    • @Cushingura
      @Cushingura 4 місяці тому

      Why are all the Platbots replying with broken AI sentences?
      Are @felipez3115 @angeltorres9232 and @he.5865 really human beings?
      "Barely any bigger" really @he.5865? Is 4 times bigger really "barely any bigger"?
      C'mon, these guys can't be actual humans.

  • @ConspiracyCinema
    @ConspiracyCinema 4 місяці тому +56

    I can’t lie seeing a lot more hit markers really spiked that dopamine. However dinging a stupid Moira in the head and seeing her just fade away hurts.

  • @biimpyy76
    @biimpyy76 4 місяці тому +35

    They took the one shot potential out of Hanzo and Junkrat. Although its frustrating for other players to die from burst damage these hero's now rely on spam damage and less on mechanical skill making them less fun to play.

    • @Jessespresso
      @Jessespresso 3 місяці тому +1

      And less fun to play against. If I'm out played by a good Hanzo or widow, I'm impressed and respect the player and will often watch the replay to see if there's anything I can learn. Now it just feels like luck, they saw me before I saw them and they shot in my general area. Junkrat was already not fun to play against due to the CC of his kit. Now he does more damage. Just make his body hit box smaller so he's not as easy to spam vs making him more annoying to deal with because you're flying in the air and taking mass amounts of damage.
      Same with Hanzo, instead of buffing his projectile size and removing the one-shot, nerf his projectile size and make it take more skill to hit headshots so there's less spamzo in the game

    • @theg4062
      @theg4062 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Jessespresso W take

    • @skrypnykk.770
      @skrypnykk.770 Місяць тому

      @@Jessespresso nah man, only hanzo is luck hero. Widow requires high skill

  • @Darkex72
    @Darkex72 4 місяці тому +475

    The changes they’ve made to Hanzo ironically makes him exactly the thing people complained about Hanzo

    • @angeltorres9232
      @angeltorres9232 4 місяці тому +16

      nah, you can play the game now when there's an enemy hanzo and not be scared of one shots

    • @rysand2937
      @rysand2937 4 місяці тому +44

      ​@@angeltorres9232the nerfs are mitigated with a mercy pocket so you just have a giga buffed Hanzo.

    • @FBI_Not
      @FBI_Not 4 місяці тому +31

      @@angeltorres9232isnt that the point of Hanzo? Shit is so hard to get headshot and theres no reward anymore

    • @shihomonamour
      @shihomonamour 4 місяці тому +1

      That's overwatch team for you.
      Even if the staff changes, the identity stays the same!

    • @diogosousa7698
      @diogosousa7698 4 місяці тому +5

      @@angeltorres9232 yea he needed skill to at least aim head level now you get storm arrows in the face

  • @EchoBoop
    @EchoBoop 4 місяці тому +128

    Hanzo mains: spamzo isn't real, he can't hurt you.
    OW Devs: ...about that...

    • @Lennard201
      @Lennard201 4 місяці тому

      lmao

    • @mothemane9910
      @mothemane9910 3 місяці тому +3

      You are right, they cant hurt me not even with a headshot

  • @SHUTENSEPC
    @SHUTENSEPC 4 місяці тому +46

    My opinion is: POTATO AND BACON BAKE RECEPIE
    Potatoes: Any kind of potato will work in this recipe. For best performance I prefer a roasting or mashing variety.
    Cheese: Use your favorite cheese including Colby, Tasty or Edam.
    Bacon: I often go for streaky bacon in this recipe. But any other type including middle bacon or bacon bits would work well.
    Preheat the oven to 190°C fan bake. Fry the bacon over a gentle heat until crispy and brown. Set aside. Thinly slice the potatoes with a sharp knife or mandolin. Mix the cream, milk and garlic together with lots of salt and pepper. Place a third of the potatoes in the base of a large ovenproof dish. Sprinkle a third of the cheese and bacon over the potatoes, then pour over a third of the creamy mix. Repeat until you have three layers. Bake for 70-80 minutes until the potatoes are cooked and the top is golden.
    RECIPE FAQS:
    Could this dish be made ahead of time?
    Yes! You could either make the whole dish, then cover it in tin foil and reheat in the oven later. Or you could assemble the dish earlier in the day and refrigerate it before cooking it later.
    Is this dish gluten free?
    Is sure is! The sauce is thickened by cream instead of flour.

    • @fatzalot8752
      @fatzalot8752 3 місяці тому

      isnt this like a potato au gratin

  • @overcookedbacon8074
    @overcookedbacon8074 4 місяці тому

    I haven't watch too many of your recent videos but I enjoy the commentary notes you give over the gameplay

  • @conradvd7262
    @conradvd7262 4 місяці тому +187

    I used to feel kinda proud of myself for being able to hit shots with Hanzo. But now I feel like it's a dirty move to pick Hanzo.

    • @fatgeekOW
      @fatgeekOW 4 місяці тому +33

      I would say the same but tbh hitscan is just as bad. I'm annihilating people on soldier even more so this season because I just can't miss lmao

    • @ashonline77
      @ashonline77 4 місяці тому +14

      @@fatgeekOW yeah soldier is disgusting on this patch tbh. I can just stay back and melt literally every single hero even orisa cause dps passive is strong against even her.

    • @diogosousa7698
      @diogosousa7698 4 місяці тому +2

      this made me rememeber one time i hs someone and was happy but then realised it was a mei and that b*tch cannot die with 1 arrow in her head

    • @TheRealHypervizor
      @TheRealHypervizor 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ashonline77 Bastion non-turret is shooting fucking laser beams too... I was beaming a widow across the map the other day.. Devs might have overcooked a bit on the changes.

    • @lWhiteRavenl
      @lWhiteRavenl 4 місяці тому

      Fr

  • @mothemane9910
    @mothemane9910 4 місяці тому +202

    Hanzo is supposed to be a skill based character, rewarding patience and positioning, now it's just spam based.

    • @j0shsux579
      @j0shsux579 4 місяці тому +4

      Always has been

    • @lesan837
      @lesan837 4 місяці тому +27

      ​@@j0shsux579If you wanted to be consistent, and actually good, no. He wasnt. His projectile was smaller than genji's shurikens, now, he can spam even more and not rely on as much aim as before

    • @fluff6811
      @fluff6811 4 місяці тому +3

      @@lesan837pre season 9 patch Genji shuriken and hanzos arrows were the same size

    • @angeltorres9232
      @angeltorres9232 4 місяці тому +3

      my dude you are crying too much, just get a pocket and everything is back again, now hanzo has to rely on confirming kills rather than take random picks

    • @mothemane9910
      @mothemane9910 4 місяці тому +11

      @@angeltorres9232 the rank 1 hanzo player is saying that the character sucks and you say i'm in the wrong?

  • @MultiPop5
    @MultiPop5 4 місяці тому +5

    Definitely feel like the new Hanzo changes impact your play style which in turn changes the style or flow of your videos. Doesn’t mean change is bad, excited to see what you come up with next!

  • @Spluge_McDucktv
    @Spluge_McDucktv 4 місяці тому +23

    Widow shoots hanzo arrows, genji shurikens are the size of small children, soldier can hold left click in the general direction of "red" and hit 2/3rds of his clip. This update was the "too much of our playerbase SUCKS at aiming" update.

    • @geert574
      @geert574 4 місяці тому +4

      its almost as if removing a tank and speeding up game has consequences

    • @Smol_PC
      @Smol_PC 3 місяці тому

      ​@geert574 they need to focus on tank stuff and not add a dps passive, maybe we'd have something close to balanced.

  • @nuur2825
    @nuur2825 4 місяці тому +79

    Hanzo was the character that rewarded skill and patience when hitting your shots. The new character feels more like junkrat than the Hanzo i've spent years playing.

    • @christianrivera5694
      @christianrivera5694 4 місяці тому +7

      Not even Junk rat, Junk rat was a master flanker, now he can't flank without using his all kit and be left naked in the enemy back lane. He was completely destroyed too. No he just spams just like hanzo or even worst

    • @evildillonn
      @evildillonn 4 місяці тому

      bro hanzo and junkrat my two and only 2 dps mains got nerfed into the fucking ground, i would honestly trade the extra 50 hp for an additional 5 damage so his bow can 1 shot again@@christianrivera5694

    • @user-sc2iv2dd3m
      @user-sc2iv2dd3m 4 місяці тому +3

      i think junk and hanzi are both trash now. i mean i don't really spam as junket but not i have to hit so many more shots to kill people. it sucks

    • @Alirezarz62
      @Alirezarz62 4 місяці тому

      Hanzo being like this and widow dominating is exactly thr opposite of what we wanted. at least the comp changes are hood tho

    • @mrjokerpt2.041
      @mrjokerpt2.041 4 місяці тому

      I just think is ironic that people asked (i mean cried) for changes and when they get what theu wanted people still complained, for good or for bad the OW cant never win with a b*tchy fanbase like this

  • @MrHideyHole
    @MrHideyHole 4 місяці тому +26

    12:10 "GET DOWN MR PRESIDENT!"

  • @Omar_05
    @Omar_05 4 місяці тому +3

    They removed one shot from a travel time time projectile hero, with whom you had to to aim, AND predict, AND account for bullet drop and travel time, instead of from the hitscan point and click character widowmaker. Previously, if you relied on luck and spam, you were always more of a hindrance to your team because you could do better with any other hero. Now, that’s supposed to be your main play style. The devs were bullied into this change by horrible players who were punished by hanzo for their godawful movement and positioning.

  • @TreyBass-dm9tt
    @TreyBass-dm9tt 3 місяці тому +4

    Hanzo is the only reason I ever picked up overwatch back in 2016 and he’s the reason I still play to this day. Few characters can truly dominate as much as a good Hanzo, along with some luck. The amazing thing about Hanzo was there was always a shot. Last team fight your whole team is dead but you just got a headshot and now it’s a 1 v 2 for the win. You get another and stall out for some help or you just get both the dudes with some crazy clip. They didn’t take too much and gave a lot back but the feeling of the gameplay is something that cannot be returned. Overall not too upset could be good for the game. Love you Hanzo.

  • @afterthought9538
    @afterthought9538 4 місяці тому +60

    High Masters Hanzo main here. I have kind of found a way to make this hero work, even with my original play-style as a short flanker with no pocket (currently haven't lost a game yet). My main problem with this hero though, is while he's more consistent from fight to fight with the projectile changes, if your team is not playing properly, your own personal value drops off drastically, even if you're hitting all your shots, due to his limitations. Basically it feels like he has very little to no solo clutch potential. Being able to clutch a point in a 1v4 or 2v4 is basically impossible unless your other teammate is a Mercy. True, that didn't happen all that often, but it was POSSIBLE. The projectile size changes are currently like staples barely holding the hero together. If his is one of the projectiles getting reduced in size, the hero is potentially dead. What I liked about playing him before, while difficult, you could hard carry a game if you were good enough.

    • @The_Tachmonite
      @The_Tachmonite 4 місяці тому +8

      I'm a GM2 peak Hanzo OTP and had more or less the same playstyle. You're on point with the loss of clutch potential. I chained 4 headshots together the other day and no one died. No picks on the supports + all of my team shooting at the tank in their face = my team getting their faces stomped in.

    • @yeemyreamy5895
      @yeemyreamy5895 4 місяці тому +4

      @@The_Tachmonite Im in pretty much the same boat. The fact that other DPS characters have all gotten buffs while they took away Hanzos ability to one shot makes the game just not fun for me any more. the clutch aspect of the game is what makes it truly fun(imo), and now it seems they want to get rid of that potential. the game was already becoming less and less fun, now its hold mouse 1 simulator.

    • @The_Tachmonite
      @The_Tachmonite 4 місяці тому +3

      @@yeemyreamy5895 what made Hanzo fun was reaching for the impossible. You knew that there was always a chance that you could pop off and win. The highs with him were higher than with any other character.

  • @DavisBraden2023
    @DavisBraden2023 4 місяці тому +125

    Hanzo not having a one shot anymore just destroys the fun of his his arrows having a bigger hitbox

    • @ricardothepilot6198
      @ricardothepilot6198 4 місяці тому +25

      let's be honest, that would be overkill. I feel like if he was able to one shot most squishes (250 HP) with their larger health pools, his arrows hitbox would have to stay the same. Widow still oneshots, and she's a hitscan with a bigger hitbox. I don't know what they were smoking, but she's basically just a better assassin hanzo.

    • @The_Tachmonite
      @The_Tachmonite 4 місяці тому +6

      ​@@ricardothepilot6198and I would do just fine with the same hitboxes. I've been hitting people for 7.5 years now. It's not like that would've gone away. But if everyone including Widow gets a hitbox increase? What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

    • @ricardothepilot6198
      @ricardothepilot6198 4 місяці тому

      @@The_Tachmonite facts. Since oneshots bypass the whole "making team fights longer" sort of deal, I would pitch the same hitboxes. One good thing about the hitbox increase is that Flyers + Mercy are a lot easier to hit now.

    • @rkrb3112
      @rkrb3112 4 місяці тому

      Better play cs2/valo if you like oneshots

  • @criimsontale
    @criimsontale 4 місяці тому +1

    Even when you're forced to adopt a more dynamic and upfront approach with hanzo, man your skill shines through no matter what. Even though you're in the frontlines more rather than assassinating unaware targets you're still having so much impact it's really nice to see.

  • @shanerawlings4554
    @shanerawlings4554 4 місяці тому

    I know you didn't have fun but the content is still great. Some of those shots were absolutely nuts. Keep it up arrge hopefully you find a way to have fun

  • @MysticMicrowave
    @MysticMicrowave 4 місяці тому +89

    As a widow main, what they did to Hanzo is criminal. Hell, what they did to widow is criminal, just in a different way.

    • @labizzzzze
      @labizzzzze 4 місяці тому +2

      they litteraly buffed widow ?

    • @whoahanant
      @whoahanant 4 місяці тому +43

      ​@@labizzzzze they're talking about how it's easier and more unsatisfying to play both characters. Why try hard when your bullet hits air and gets you a headshot?

    • @Cosmos565
      @Cosmos565 4 місяці тому +15

      @@whoahanant i agree, ive spent over 1000+ h on widow just to feel that satisfying sound of a headshot but now thanks to the changes it feels like all that skill was wasted

    • @BuddzBunnyHD
      @BuddzBunnyHD 4 місяці тому +8

      @@Cosmos565 Well that logic does not really add up? Sure everyone hits more shots now, but if ur an amazing widow you are going to hit EVEN MORE shots than the normal player. The average hit-rate% went up for everyone but that also means the cracked widows will barely miss.

    • @user-fe1eu6pn9t
      @user-fe1eu6pn9t 4 місяці тому +1

      its not fun aymore
      @@BuddzBunnyHD

  • @papabearjonez
    @papabearjonez 4 місяці тому +48

    Seeing sensei Arrge not doing his usual thing hurts.
    Stay strong and let us medidate for better times my fellow Hanzo brothers!

  • @mr.inhuman7932
    @mr.inhuman7932 4 місяці тому

    The commentary at the beginning was actually very entertaining imo

  • @reddragon2943
    @reddragon2943 4 місяці тому +27

    0:17 HOLY FUCK!!! Hanzo did not need this.
    3:37 Very good Distraction.

  • @travisoneal3294
    @travisoneal3294 4 місяці тому +132

    The projectile size and storm arrow feel great, but the fact that you can't one shot a Kiriko with a fully charged arrow headshot is absurd. lmao

    • @abood3mir35
      @abood3mir35 4 місяці тому

      Ye

    • @AshVXmc
      @AshVXmc 4 місяці тому +18

      Guys i think this guy may slightly dislike kiriko

    • @shihomonamour
      @shihomonamour 4 місяці тому +2

      I actually don't feel good about those either.
      For the first hour you're like wow, but then it doesn't feel good. Gets dissatisfying, like you're not in control.

    • @diogosousa7698
      @diogosousa7698 4 місяці тому +2

      @@AshVXmc even i that main support think kiriko damage is a bit too much is basically a mini hanzo but with teleport and suzu

    • @7128jml
      @7128jml 4 місяці тому

      @@diogosousa7698 you shut your mouth

  • @shrtbus44
    @shrtbus44 4 місяці тому +25

    Hanzo is throwing pool noodles down field now.

    • @usmh
      @usmh 4 місяці тому +1

      What the ever flying fuck is a pool noodle?

    • @Anubis_-_
      @Anubis_-_ 4 місяці тому +3

      @@usmhlong, thin cylindrical tube of foam that floats in the pool

    • @MrBrock314
      @MrBrock314 4 місяці тому

      @@usmh Check out a pool. :)

    • @iamastraixs
      @iamastraixs 4 місяці тому +1

      @@usmhold enough to curse but not old enough to google pool noodle

  • @robertoromoleroux4391
    @robertoromoleroux4391 4 місяці тому

    you are the reason i started playing hanzo more and i just hit my peak on dps at diamond 4!

  • @scarletl9081
    @scarletl9081 4 місяці тому

    love your videos arrge ❤

  • @Gudda16
    @Gudda16 4 місяці тому +18

    I loved your humour in the video, still I'm gonna miss your slime and assasin Hanzo :c They were so fun to watch!

  • @b130610
    @b130610 4 місяці тому +3

    I haven't played this game in a minute, but always enjoy your gameplays. It's wild to me that they removed hanzo's main utility with 1 shots for most of the characters, and made Widow so much easier with almost no downsides. Widow has always seemed like the more problematic "1 shot" character in the gameplay as a noob, and it seems like the same is true in higher ranks looking at pick rates in competitive, and pro matches. Hopefully this shakes out sooner rather than later so Hanzo gets his identity back.

  • @mudfish6861
    @mudfish6861 4 місяці тому

    Read recently that they’re planning to adjust some of the changes they made at the start of S9, hopefully that includes certain hitboxes (Hanzo for one, but as a support player I have to say Kiri and Zen feel kinda ridiculous) and some hitscan characters like 76 or Widow

  • @Niros11
    @Niros11 4 місяці тому +37

    You made me fall in love with the character, predicting where the enemy will be for the perfect head shots is the hanzo hero fantasy. They ruined him. Made him exactly the version that people hated. All the skill expression of the character is gone. It feels lucky and random even more since even hanzo doesn’t know if his shot will kill.
    Much better to play hitscan instead.

  • @pranshustark9500
    @pranshustark9500 4 місяці тому +24

    There's some plus sides, like Hanzo can survive solo flanking the enemies (healing passive) and he can also play in the frontline (extended HP) but lost its essence of "Assassin Hanzo" as one-shot kill no longer exists, also the weight of storm arrows are too high (damage increased and cool down decreased) leading to more spamming than precise plays.

    • @The_Tachmonite
      @The_Tachmonite 4 місяці тому +4

      The healing passive hasn't really increased survivability for flanking. The best thing for Hanzo's survivability on flanks was first shot accuracy on a one-shot. If you hit your first shot, no one looks to see why their teammate died. If you miss, the target (we'll say Ana) looks to see where the arrow came from, then everyone looks to see where the Ana is looking, and then everyone is on top of you like mold on old jam.
      Well now people are always gonna look after the first shot no matter what, tanking your survivability like nobody's business. And in my experience, if someone is chasing you down they don't give you a nice little respite where the 20hp per second is gonna save you.

    • @francislee174
      @francislee174 4 місяці тому

      I entirely disagree. Now you can be very aggressive hanzo in front line. Storm arrows is extremely good. Makes him probably best dps in comp rn

  • @hiimnifty3625
    @hiimnifty3625 4 місяці тому +1

    It's funny how much the way you describe how gameplay feels now is how everyone described 6v6 gameplay..

  • @miggymasenko4927
    @miggymasenko4927 4 місяці тому

    I do really enjoy your gameplay man and just you as a person because you are so funny. I know the Hanzo changes nerf your previous gameplan but Im still looking forward to watching you play the game and the character and if you ever do any other games like horror stuff, that would be funny to see from you lol

  • @Savouryearwig72
    @Savouryearwig72 4 місяці тому +13

    Even since overwatch one the whole point was a sniper who takes off angles, and now 1 shots gone, thats like taking doomfists punch away, or tracers blink, it completely changes how u play the hero

    • @Cemow777
      @Cemow777 4 місяці тому +1

      They wrecked pharah's niche too. Just echo now.

  • @sgtsupercool
    @sgtsupercool 4 місяці тому +21

    I played Hanzo for all of OW1 and now I feel like he's just another "tank buster". My first game in season 9, I got 7 headshots, almost back to back, and didn't secure a single kill. I immediately switched to hitscan characters so I can actually kill something while having fun

  • @NamhadiNdemufayo
    @NamhadiNdemufayo 4 місяці тому

    That kill on the S76 was hilarious!

  • @feelsoezy
    @feelsoezy 3 місяці тому

    Love this

  • @Forra_10
    @Forra_10 4 місяці тому +41

    They completely took out the reason i play hanzo

  • @MrHideyHole
    @MrHideyHole 4 місяці тому +60

    OW2 is a game of nerf darts, bouncey castles, inflatible helmets, and Hanzo/Widow headshots.

    • @omarsali2990
      @omarsali2990 4 місяці тому

      Accurate

    • @MrBrock314
      @MrBrock314 4 місяці тому

      Formerly of Hanzo headshots. Now a Hanzo headshot is a light massage.

    • @The_Tachmonite
      @The_Tachmonite 4 місяці тому

      @@MrBrock314 it's an opportunity for the supports to go, "Oh no, did that hurt? I'm so sowwy! UwU"

  • @Cloud7050
    @Cloud7050 4 місяці тому

    That brig doing the Sombra-style C9 twice while standing on top of the payload lmao

  • @sebastianmelendez5572
    @sebastianmelendez5572 4 місяці тому

    Keep it up bruh!!!

  • @nakiempoole2511
    @nakiempoole2511 4 місяці тому +5

    I feel the exact same way with junk rat taking out his one shot combo completely destroyed the character, no more rollouts and hit, scanned his giga buffed

  • @Meiling-Tea
    @Meiling-Tea 4 місяці тому +3

    bruh, I just got done watching your last 2 videos and was gonna wait for some season 9 gameplay. Christmas came early ig lol.

  • @wofi1014
    @wofi1014 4 місяці тому

    I liked the one shot bc I could stop plays happening carrying my team now it’s harder, like you said, actually engaging with the team now but I lose more games

  • @rayette715
    @rayette715 4 місяці тому

    Hanzo seems pretty cool
    I like how he just strafes and kills things

  • @MrFirefox365
    @MrFirefox365 4 місяці тому +3

    Sad to see the assassin playstyle dead, but now it seems Arrge has adopted the same style I've been playing for years. With the buff to storm arrow it's basicly been a buff for me, with a minor downside of not being able to oneshot.

  • @Jazz_Daddy_
    @Jazz_Daddy_ 4 місяці тому +5

    New Hanzo is a neutered, watered down version of the character I learned to love

  • @ConspiracyCinema
    @ConspiracyCinema 4 місяці тому +18

    The Devs Were So Preoccupied With Whether Or Not They Could, They Didn’t Stop To Think If They Should.

  • @dbikeguy
    @dbikeguy 4 місяці тому +1

    you inspired me to become a hanzo main some time ago, and i loved the shit out of the previous playstyle.......
    AND IM LOVIN THE NEW STYLE TOO. been absolutely eating the last few days, HUGE damage numbers, always leading elims, destroying lobbies and infuriating enemies with ABSURD burst damage which is literally on a faster cooldown I LOVE IT ITS TIME FOR HANZO MAINS TO EAT TF UP, ENJOY IT FOLKS!!!

  • @Ace-ox4zc
    @Ace-ox4zc 4 місяці тому +613

    new hanzo is so boring smh

    • @hirokoaki
      @hirokoaki 4 місяці тому +13

      So true

    • @akira3723
      @akira3723 4 місяці тому +32

      fr man i don't play him as much cause spamzo

    • @almukta7em258
      @almukta7em258 4 місяці тому +2

      Fr

    • @samsbookbook3425
      @samsbookbook3425 4 місяці тому +73

      i think the whole game is more boring not only hanzo. Its just a spam simulation now. The skill level of the game has "merging"

    • @-_-Montana-_-
      @-_-Montana-_- 4 місяці тому +3

      ⁠I was thinking the same thing

  • @nevermindthebull0cks
    @nevermindthebull0cks 4 місяці тому +5

    As a Tracer player, I am really loving the new Kiri, Handsoap, Widow, Echo, Torb, Genji..... I have learned so many new ways back from spawn.

    • @The_Tachmonite
      @The_Tachmonite 4 місяці тому

      The hitboxes are honestly a joke, dude. It's not like you didn't have a hard enough time avoiding Hanzo headshots. I enjoyed Hanzo/Tracer duels a lot. It feels like Tracer has the short end of the stick now.

  • @Sarcastic-Insann
    @Sarcastic-Insann 2 місяці тому

    I recently started playing OW2 and I liked your content

  • @Tbanks9412
    @Tbanks9412 4 місяці тому

    The old Arrge videos where he just killed shit and shared his adventures in ranked, death match, etc and he didn’t have the need to explain himself was very nostalgic for me and inspired me to learn Hanzo.

  • @robertbenato845
    @robertbenato845 4 місяці тому +3

    All jokes aside ive generally had kore fun playing hanzo this patch. I feel like im able to get value in situations i wouldnt have before because of the storm arrow changes. Have to implement a slightly different less selfish playstyle but i think itll be interesting to get used to. This season killing flankers or flighers is so much more rewarding. I like it

  • @Invct2755
    @Invct2755 4 місяці тому +10

    Mained hanzo a week ago to one shot, and now I can't.....
    love your videos btw 😁

  • @foxinab0xgaming
    @foxinab0xgaming 4 місяці тому

    17:09 ahh yes my favorite metastrat. the "patient, ranged archer turns into manic, in your face gunner" strategy. subvert expectations and catch em off guard!

  • @F4Fedits
    @F4Fedits 4 місяці тому

    luv u arrge

  • @egg.2650
    @egg.2650 4 місяці тому +10

    Nerf the projectile size by like ½ and up the damage back to 250 for headshots

    • @aprophetofrng9821
      @aprophetofrng9821 4 місяці тому

      fr. But then people would complain that his arrow hitbox is insane because the guy playing hanzo against them can actually land their shots, and the person dying has terrible positioning.

    • @egg.2650
      @egg.2650 4 місяці тому

      @aprophetofrng9821 frfr. I put in time to learn how to aim and hit heads for consistent picks. Now it's all useless

  • @shawnjohn5756
    @shawnjohn5756 4 місяці тому +6

    "witness the flame of my soul!"
    It's like blizzard took that sentence and decided to douse the flame. Every shot hurts.

  • @fifots
    @fifots 4 місяці тому

    nice shots bro

  • @TehEricAlmeida777
    @TehEricAlmeida777 3 місяці тому +1

    Having a pocket Mercy is good, but wouldnt it be better to coordinate with a Zeny and combo disc orb and storm arrow hs to get kills or pushback less mobile tanks? (Sigma, Zarya, Orisa, Hog)
    Also, is it fast and viable to combo a mid-close range headshot with storm arrow?

  • @maicksilva7799
    @maicksilva7799 4 місяці тому +3

    man, i don't play hanzo and i don't usually comment in comment section, but i had to let you you that, i watch your channel because of you, you do a great job on your videos, not doubt you are a very smart guy.

  • @daveOnYouTube
    @daveOnYouTube 4 місяці тому +5

    Hanzo used to be a precision machine with a very high skill ceiling. His high difficulty and high damage are supposed to average out, but a skillful player could overcome the difficulty for a big impact. Unfortunately, the larger hurtbox lowers difficulty, thus lowering the skill ceiling, while the HP buffs mean he's less impactful than before. It is nice that team fights are longer.

  • @cybernine-101
    @cybernine-101 4 місяці тому

    looks fun

  • @bert7785
    @bert7785 4 місяці тому

    i havent tried yet because last season burnt me out but i WAS having fun taking my time with shots. i hope thts still there somewhat

  • @_Stijn07
    @_Stijn07 4 місяці тому +4

    as a hanzo main, thanks to you.
    I love the new season but no hanzo oneshot headshot anymore hurts.
    Shooting a healer headshot and not killing him doesn't feel good.
    Hopefully its gonna return soon.
    All we can do is pray🙏

  • @LunaireTD
    @LunaireTD 4 місяці тому +4

    To an extent i sorta see what they were trying to do by making hanzo not 1 shot anymore. Like being 1 shot by a near silent hero can be a bit annoying, with widow at least you usually know she's there. But this current state is not fun. Maybe a good solution would be giving hanzo some sort of additional benefit to headshots? Like what if when he headshots someone with normal arrow and it almost kills them he gets temporary wallhacks on that player and a storm arrow refresh, encouraging quick 1-2 combos.
    This would help with people ducking behind cover after headshot and put more emphasis on "simple geometry"

  • @arrawnjames9838
    @arrawnjames9838 4 місяці тому

    commenting to help great arrge vid

  • @relaycorps6898
    @relaycorps6898 Місяць тому

    Widow has a machine gun, a sniper, and a debuff trap as well as a grapple hook and wall hack ult. Hanzo has storm shot, wall climb, and radar arrow that bugs out and doesn't work sometimes, and a slow ass dragon ult that people can just walk out of now. Like if they'd give him like a explosive arrow or like a healing arrow like soldiers little healing packet that'd at least make flanking with him possible and limit him from having to have a mercy pocket.

    • @relaycorps6898
      @relaycorps6898 Місяць тому

      Either way he needs something if they're not going to give him back his headshots

  • @lashius1
    @lashius1 4 місяці тому +3

    With the changes made Hanzo wound up getting a 50% increase in his shot hit box, but pretty much lost access to an entire style of play. I think it would be preferable to most players if instead they made his arrow hit box 1.2, or even 1.1 instead of 1.5, buffed his damage by five for a total of 125, and dropped his HP to 225. With these numbers he's still competitive with other DPS in terms of accuracy, but still would require aim to land shots. He could two shot with body shots, but with a universal healing passive any average hp target could just go to cover after a single body shot and wait five seconds to start healing up. He would be able to one shot most heroes again on a head shot, but would be more susceptible to damage trades himself. Realistically without the one shot there isn't a lot of reason to play Hanzo when I could just grab solder or sojourn and constantly apply the 20% healing de-buff and have high burst damage cool downs to supplement the steady damage overtime that is incredibly easy to land now.

    • @MrBrock314
      @MrBrock314 4 місяці тому

      I mean, drop his damage to 100 and then just increase the headshot value to 2.5x. That way he 1-shots a 250hp char while taking 3 body shots making headshots feel good again. Would take 3 body shots (for 200+ hp chars) still meaning no impact on that side.

    • @lashius1
      @lashius1 4 місяці тому

      @@MrBrock314 You know, on the one hand I would argue that that would then make him less usefull with a mercy pocket, which does feel kind of good now with the change to storm arrow and the universal HP buffs, but I have to hard agree with the crit change and lowering base damage simply because it works with their goal of trying to mitigate the high impact of said burst damage. And frankly, with your numbers Hanzo isn't just a tank buster like he his now. So yeah, good call. And I'd still take the nerf to HP and projectile size for it, because honestly it feels more rewarding to hit shots with his old hit box. Also, I keep fucking up peaking corners because my arrow is half again as big as it used to be, and I've sonic arrowed my own location like...at least five or six times now....

  • @leynerdermek6916
    @leynerdermek6916 4 місяці тому +6

    I basically played ow bc of Hanzo, I just really love bows in Videogames, any videogame, in fps games, the best bow Ive ever played with was Hanzo’s, the fact that now it doesnt one shot-headshot enemies anymore makes it so boring to play without friends (I dont have any, Im a Hanzo player).
    I unironically uninstalled ow just when S9 came out, only coming back to ow if they fix their game (Impossible).
    Love you Arrge, will still watching u tho

  • @dylanmcnally9184
    @dylanmcnally9184 4 місяці тому +1

    Probably 90% of my playtime prior to season 9 was as hanzo, now I mainly play tank and healer. I think he is still very strong but it doesn't matter if he's not as fun/too easy to hit shots.

  • @shady8273
    @shady8273 4 місяці тому

    We finally have the spamzo everyone has been talking about the whole game

  • @KynneloVyskenon
    @KynneloVyskenon 4 місяці тому +3

    i think they could make Hanzo's arrows smaller and make his headshot do 250 damage.
    if the devs think the 1shot is unfair because of distance they could give the arrows the same falloff range as Widow.
    i know they can give the arrows a falloff range because they've done it before with Orisa

    • @plawerian
      @plawerian 4 місяці тому

      Dude, they removed damage reduction from Orisa😐😐😐

    • @KynneloVyskenon
      @KynneloVyskenon 4 місяці тому

      @@plawerian i know, but it used to have falloff so my point still stands

  • @alexanderhayes9393
    @alexanderhayes9393 3 місяці тому

    I like the storm arrows.

  • @bryanzol3040
    @bryanzol3040 4 місяці тому +1

    Was just getting into playing hanzo as a new to pc overwatch player 😢

  • @zoriaryla
    @zoriaryla Місяць тому

    dis crazy

  • @angiegamez8600
    @angiegamez8600 3 місяці тому +2

    Blizzard: Hanzo can't 1 shot anymore! Also Blizzard: Forgets about mercy... again

  • @G.A.M.E.R.-
    @G.A.M.E.R.- 4 місяці тому

    I haven’t played hanzo yet I’ve only had time to play a few matches this season so far, but from what I can see he seems less like a playmaker and more like a spam/pressure character

  • @anthonylebleu7880
    @anthonylebleu7880 3 місяці тому

    I think this is the first season where im actually happy to have a hanzo on my team

  • @faPUNCHce
    @faPUNCHce 4 місяці тому

    Comment, engagement, algorithm. Good vid dude. 👍🏼

  • @brucefly7347
    @brucefly7347 4 місяці тому

    The log arrow boosted my avg accuracy from 2X-3X to 3X-4X. Which is insane ngl. However, this might due to I flanked less and engaged with enemy tanks more.

  • @sunflowerbee4297
    @sunflowerbee4297 4 місяці тому

    i was so excited to finally have the cupid skin and using it but now i don’t know if i even want to play hanzo like that😭😭😭

  • @pepperynutella
    @pepperynutella 4 місяці тому

    I'm gunna miss arrge's assassin hanzo. Those shots were so smooth.

  • @peptobsmol
    @peptobsmol 4 місяці тому

    I really enjoy the changes but so many adjustments needed

  • @bentatman6031
    @bentatman6031 3 місяці тому

    So many worthy voice clips this video
    “Cosmetic DPS”
    “Oh shxt, a stack of Finnish people”

  • @voxxy348
    @voxxy348 4 місяці тому +1

    Hanzo in my opinion was always a solo playmaker, but now he feels like he needs to play alot around his team.

  • @Jamaican_Sunset_
    @Jamaican_Sunset_ 4 місяці тому

    i love shooting logs ❤❤❤

  • @Koetaaa53
    @Koetaaa53 4 місяці тому

    as a tank main, i got the most times just melted from a hanzo and storm arrows :-O the gigantic headhitbox + stormarrows does so much dmg :(

  • @Anubirai
    @Anubirai 4 місяці тому

    I’m fine with them reducing Hanzo’s projectile size back to normal, as long as we get our one shot sniping damage back, or if they speed up the bow’s draw back time. Most DPS just have to hold down prime fire and move their mouse a little. Snipers have to wait for a full charge, aim, and shoot, wait, aim and shoot. Plus with Hanzo we have to predict where you’re going, we can’t just follow your movement with our left click pressed down like 76, Bastion, Sojourn, Symmetra, Reaper, Echo, Sombra, Mei and Tracer.

  • @ArmedAngryAtheist
    @ArmedAngryAtheist 4 місяці тому

    I like the changes so far. I've always played more aggressive and less sneaky as Hanzo (even as the Sniper in TFC and TF2), so I think the changes align with my play style. However, the head shots that leave them with 5hp are a bit annoying.

  • @guilhermedrummond5300
    @guilhermedrummond5300 3 місяці тому

    Now that the arrows are the size of a leg I hope I can be like Arrge, calme Argge

  • @nawafkk7374
    @nawafkk7374 4 місяці тому

    As a hanzo main I miss the 1 shot kills but actually he is more fun now with storm buff now I am able to do team kills more than before

  • @skullchomper
    @skullchomper 3 місяці тому

    Suffering from this new update is so real

  • @MMZ01
    @MMZ01 4 місяці тому

    Every headshot frustrates as or even more than anything in my life. So, thank you overwatch for being the 31st thing that provokes me. We or at least I played and kept playing Hanzo because of the satisfying gameplay, and the thoughtful planning that was needed.

  • @IHateHandlesWayTooMuch
    @IHateHandlesWayTooMuch 4 місяці тому

    The widowmaker in Paraiso clip is Laremin, a fellow streamer.
    If only you knew how the nickname he uses is translated 😂

  • @aaronlovin2263
    @aaronlovin2263 4 місяці тому

    I like watching Arrge playing spammy Hanzo like this, tbh.