ABC News Nightline: Indira Gandhi Assassination - 10/30/84
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- Опубліковано 28 бер 2017
- A special edition of ABC News Nightline with Ted Koppel in the aftermath of the assassination of Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi on October 30, 1984. Interviewed are Dr. David Taylor from the University of London, former US Ambassador to India Ainslie Embree, and India expert Richard Sisson.
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Wow! Back then media just reports 'Facts' and not 'spins'!
Almost
They had laws about it back then
Um. Facts? The assassins weren't killed by other security guards. One was later killed during interrogation and the other was hanged
@@bleeding4721 What hanged? by whom and what? Sentenced to be hung.The other died trying to escape as he was 'hero' and and his fellow terrorists tried to free yhim and got shot \'during interrogation'.Bloody liars.
Your wrong, that time people are just too dumb to identify
This is such responsible reporting of news!! Good old days were really good!!
Ted Koppe, then young, was a wonderful reporter. While I was a graduate student in the US, I always enjoyed his professionalism & standard of reporting. What a difference to day's reporting; the quality of journalsm world over has gone down.
not to be disrespectful to the subject matter -- but how can we return to these journalism standards?
I was thinking the same😭
Take Fox News and MSNBC off the air...and force the President to stand before cameras and answer for his well-documented lies.
@@mgpanther81 November is the answer.....
@@jazsm5385 You are correct, sir!
@@mgpanther81 absolutely cnn fox etc are the worst
The way Koppel reports the news, there is no despair or weepy feely tones. Just the facts. All there is nowadays are just hammy actors reporting the news.
Going back for at least a decade now, I can't bring myself to watch any of the network news broadcasts because of how bad they are. Personalities and packaging over facts and substance. newspapers are my source now. Watching old broadcasts like this are both wonderful for what we once had and sad when I realize what we now have.
He was not emotional at all because why wouldd he care? America is so far from India.
Unlike today, back then, journalists took their jobs as a responsibility and reported facts without spins.
Back when journalist reported facts instead of pushing their own political opinions
Dave S.:Abung!...
Dave S. Even back then they pushed an agenda.
Bullshit. Find another scapegoat Dave.
Not a scapegoat. it's called a FACT. Go watch coverage of election night on any of the so called "major" networks. they were clearly in the tank for the Democrat party. Which election night you ask ? Try 1980 when Reagan won. Try Brokaw on NBC. These were clearly leftist propagandists who brought an entire generation up hating Ronald Reagan because Reagan was going to kill us all and start multiple wars and what have you, according to the leftists.... Meanwhile we're all still here. ABC, NBC, CBS and now their cable counterparts are nothing more than Domestic terrorists. They have made the same outlandish accusations against every Republican Presidential candidate in my lifetime. "Progressives" as they like to call themselves, are the worlds biggest enemies. In ANY Nation. Divide and conquer.
Dave S. Touche.. 👍🏽
I would trust Ted Koppel more than journos from India itself!!!
You could trust a rock more than India journalists.
Cannot forget that day, especially as I was at AIIMS as a medical student. Her car tried to enter the AIIMS casualty from the VIP entrance which was locked as the hospital had no prior info. Seeing the gates locked her security guards nervously fired at the gate locks causing pandemonium. The rest is common knowledge
I will never forget the frightened look on the face of the Sikhs who just happened to be on the streets. I spent the next few days with my VHF radio that could monitor the Delhi police who were clearly overwhelmed. In the thousands of back and forth transmissions not one seemed to show that the police were complicit in the Sikh massacre that was to follow.
What is your age now?
Wait hadn’t the massacre happened before. Operation blue star and all that. It was the consequence of that massacre that indira was assassinated.
@@sid2372 58 yrs
@@docsdoc wow... Very nice😍😍😍,... Please talking to you
@@docsdoc app doctor h
Mrs G was shot at around 9 am and I, at a factory on the outskirts of Chennai, didnt hear about it till 1.30/2 in the afternoon!!
That was Rajiv gandhi died in bomb blast near chennai
20:00 - The printer sound in the background suggests loads of news reports or fax being printed out to assist presenting live news reporting.
actually Ted Koppel was just printing out his Twitter feed 🙃
Nice to see the correct map of India.
I noticed that too.
We noticed that too. 👌👌
Ikr
I have noticed the same..and this is our real India..nobody fucking idiot asshole wil get the Kashmir from.us..
gratico 100 days of curfew and still..
It’s called development?
You think the voice for Kashmir will over.! Never..history boht bahri ha.
Kiya hoga.pakistan per blame.
We pakistan will take Kashmir. Unfortunately our dirty politics made Imran Khan confusing.
Anyone notice there was NO delay when koppel asked taylor the intial question?
Satellite feeds were less complex then, so any delay was almost nonexistent, even though it still took an incredible amount of time for a two-way feed to go from A to B then back. I think it has to do with the analog/digital idea.
Interesting observation 👍
That's how conspiracy theories starts , just don't say anything
Koppel was a journalist. A real one. In other words, he was completely different from the political activists who pose as journalists today, on virtually all media outlets.
Those were the days when reporters reported. Not like the today.
At (20:18) the young Ted Koppel breaks in as an interviewee is speaking, to say words that if not PRECISELY those Walter Cronkite once spoke: "Let me interrupt you for just one second, & i emphasize this is just one news agency, but---"
----You know what he's gonna say, as those who watched Cronkite knew. Chilling, still & always.
The true horror of this is the way he pronounces 'abdomen'
Perhaps it is because he grew up in England. Lived there until the age of 13. I’m guessing that’s the way abdomen is pronounced there.
Abdoohmen
😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂🤣😂🤣🤣
Indira Gandhi wasn't a good woman nor a politician !!
Her death was the results of her constant brutality against the Sikhs
and she had to be removed from power through assassination.
"It appears , and I repeat, It appears. " How responsible the news agencies were in those days around the world. These days, i have seen fake news told and then not a single line contradicting what they have telecasted, leave alone apologies
I've seen a headline on cbs say an event caused riots before it even happened
I miss hearing those typewriters in the background on news studios.
Even I remember that day when I studied in class 5 😢
Can we ever get back to reporting the news without putting in reporters opinions into their reports or propagandizing the news.
STEN is not a rifle, it's a submachinegun, but a european would call it a "machine pistol".
I suppose you're an upstanding american citizen
1:29 eventhough at that time India was in support of USSR in cold war era ...
Usa is using actual map of mainland India showing both pok and aksai chin as part of India ..
Pakistan was ally of usa in cold war against USSR in Afghanistan war
What a difference in standards compared to today's so-called journalists. Viewers actually got the facts instead of conjecture.
Anabelle and Hitchcock in a same name is insane......I hope Hitchcock could made something with Anabelle..Epic would it be....horror of many lifetime
😅😅 and she was at the right time. Very unlucky charm .
How did they do Live Video Call from London in 1984????
Via me.
Ab-DOUGH-men? Where did he get that from?
Wow The Map is So Correct not expected this from America LoL
33 years ago this day....
I liked how they showed the correct map of India back then
Have no idea about the news reader as I was not even born when all this happened. But he looks very professional..and watching Indira’s assassination news is giving me spine chills
my mom was working in aiims hospital . the next day day my parents were going to kerala in the train , but it was higlhy dangerous back then . i wasnt born yet my sister was born a year previous to this incident . my dad said he hid his sikh neighbours in his home because anry rioters were hunting down all sikhs .
I would say,Your dad was a super hero, I got my relatives still trapped in a room with Sikh friends during the riots
I was in year 4th and walked 8km back home on October31, 1984.
as there was no bus and people gathered and burning buses, there were riots all over the country
20:27
Wow I miss this journalism
I still remember that day. Will never forget it.
I won't forget that year. An ominous year and sadly I was born in that year. Harbinger of bad things to the world.
You don't even know how depressive that news made people around me and Bhopal Gas Tragedy too. We actually kept meeting people later in our life that were severely affected by Bhopal Gas Tragedy. I had friends from Bhopal and so had my family. Many had cancerous cases in their families. Some died prematurely in front of us giving my mother specially mental shocks I could see broke her mentally. To see even a friend die who had young kids left behind. My mumm went through much personal harm seeing deaths and sad stories of people around. I had remembered 1984 more for Bhopal Gas Tragedy than for Indira Gandhi's assassination but I know her death was related to stock market..
The theme's used in all abc news (American) segments.
This historic situation is true even today with different personalities involved.🎉
Still remembering that day in 1984.I was studying in class 4,my friend came to our class room saying 'Indira has been shot'.I was unable to believe my ears.Indira was a towering figure here.When I went home ,I saw my father weeping upon her demise.Nation had lost Indira priyadarshini ,the name she was affectionately called by every one.
she deserved it for horrifically and brutally murdering sikhs for absolutely no reason.
she deserves no respect for what she did to the sikhs, and nobody called her priyadarshini because of her heartlessness
army did their job by shooting sikh militants who were backed by pakistan army. Their agenda was to disintegrate punjab from india. It seems you doesn't know any facts
1 year here...
Saurav Sharma ok Indira did bad for Sikhs and what Rajeev and Sanjay did?? Why they were killed what were their flaws?? The truth is there were many haters of them and one by one they killed them just vanished their family and how shamelessly you are supporting those Sikh bodyguard
pahul gill - Holy Golden temple ? Indeed holy it is, but men inside then were not holy.
They had mined the entire pathways and were heavily armed.
Indian army lost so many soldiers when they went in normally, tanks had to go.
Indeed Indira's plan to plant Bhindravale against Akalis backfired !
Happy day for me
Let us know where you intend to be interred. I’ll make sure to save you a full bladder.
been watchin Mr ted koppel & charlie rose 4 last 24 yrs..real journalists not lyk these days cable reporters
i miss the news of old. it was more factual, professional & didn't pander or attempt to entertain
Great reporting. Punjabi people are the defenders of India. My parents are from Kerala and that's what they told me.
Yes, but Sikh terrorism in the 1980s was a big danger to the stability of India. Many youngster were part of Babbar Khalsa and the Bhindranwale group who were mercilessly killing innocent Hindus and Sikhs..
Lies exaggerations
@@rodriguesroshanwell all of what you said is a lie, you need to get your facts straight.
@@onkarrai6068 I know my facts. Am a serious student of Indian politics of 1970s and 80s. Research about Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale and his atrocities. I have a huge collection of news magazines from the 1980s covering the Punjab terrorism. My claims are very much authentic.
@@onkarrai6068 Stay happy with your so called facts 👍👍
I was born that year, with my mother being a hardcore Indian and political enthusiast, pretty sure she saw me as a bad omen with Bhopal Gas Tragedy too happening that year. She must have thought there was something wrong with this child. She must have felt if she would be happy to have me or feel sad as India was reeling with one problem then the next..she was a hardcore Indian & much into national and political affairs as a common citizen of India. I never realized I was such a bad omen or harbinger of bad times to follow probably when I will die too. I will be honest many unusual things have happened to me my entire life. I hope some day after death as well I could some insight into why such things happened with me?? Was I born as a mentally deranged entity? I looked and behaved pretty normal. Had reddish hair which was loved by people around me. Then I got black hair, thick black which was loved by my mumm, then got dry hair which was loved by me. Yes I have invited far more humorous attention from people due to my dry broom style hair than I did with anything else. I felt safe with those dry hair.
A big TV in 1984? was it a TV or what??
Remember, it was the America when everything was invented and made there.
The made one mistake I see. A Sten is a WW2 era sub-machine not a rifle. See the link en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sten
@amar gwari Not too similar. they are meant for different purpose. Rifle is a weapon that can be used at a significant range. A sub-machine gun is for use when the enemy is quite close only. The original use of a sub-machine gun was to clear trenches in WWI (Germans). Also the length of the weapons is quite different because of their difference in purposes and a rifle normally takes a bayonet while a sub-machine gun does not.
I can’t even compare this ABC reporting with our current Godi media. Honest and good old days will never be back.
People often criticize stereotyping but forget that stereotyping has its own benefit which has helped humans to survive and evolve by making it take evasive actions from its predator. Given the blue star mission maybe Indira Gandhi shouldn't have kept those Sikh guards at least for the time till this whole issue simmered down.
They were withdrawn but Indira deployed them again on knowing that they were withdrawn for being Sikhs. Sikhs do not spare anybody who attacked the Golden Temple or killed their people.
She was advised to remove her Sikh security detail but refused by stating how can we claim to be secular if we take such action. The first guard that shot her, Beant Singh, had been her most trusted person according to Indira Gandhi and he was the one that fired the first 3 shots on that fateful morning.
The Singhs would have got to her eventually, like the governors of Sirhind and the British lackeys after them. Tyrants and defilers cannot be allowed to survive.
@@chucksingh9339 True, in all honestly she absolutely deserved it.
Just notice we have our complete Map of India including POK during that time. 👍
Koi bat nahi koi or ajay ga us ke Jaga
where is mr Koppel now is he life?
@halcolombo6380😅
He's still here-- he contributes to CBS Sunday Morning now, as I understand it.
@@thomaspuhringer8332 Very flowery demonstration of language by Colombo above. 😆 🤣
She was killed on 31st Oct, not 30th.
DELHI POLICE REMOVED SIKH SECURITY GUARDS SHE GOT THEM BACK- SHE WANTED TO BE A MARTYR NOT A COWARD - SHE DIED BEFORE REACHING AIIMS - SHE CHOSE HER DEATH LATER HER SON RAJIV GANDHI DID THE SAME - MARTY'S DEATH- ITALIAN SONIA FOREIGN AGENT
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There was time when international media knew the correct map of India. Nowadays they only show the distorted maps to make Pakistan happy do balancing act. Fact was important then than being politically correct.
The most amazing thing about these old broadcasts is how dumbed-down the news of today appears when compared to them.
Turn on the nightly-news today and you never see any serious discussion of any issues with any kind of depth or real analysis: it's all surface-level fluff, or, in the case of politics, little-better than reality television.
I remember watching her funeral live on TV in 1984
They for once showed the map of india including pok
40 yr old video
00:51 AB - DOE - MEN ???
ਪ੍ਰਣਾਮ ਯੋਧਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ 🙏
Lol 1984 yaad hai congress ne kya kiya tha
If people call terrorist as 'quom de yodha' then they should not complain.. when people will call a community a terrorist breeders
@@Olive_Chap someone's freedom fighters are terroists for some. I don't care about your opinions buddy. Keep it to yourself.
ab-dough-men and stan-gun..bless his heart :/
😂
I was working as an Intern at Safdarjang Hospital and Indira Gandhi was at the hospital across the road at AIIMS. We all knew she was dead but the official confirmation came in the evening. The next 3 or 4 days saw rioting by the Congress goons against the Sikh community. We saved many Sikh friends in our hostel and tended to many Sikh patients admitted with injuries. It was a sad day for India. It divided the Sikhs and Hindus, a breach that has not healed to this day.
They only dare to hurt sikhs in delhi where sikhs were defenceless if they were brave enought they should have came to punjab then we all know what woukd have become of those goons
@@Leigonyt10 ahh... I think they did that in punjab
This was done deliberately by external forces , I don't name which one you already know.
@@Leigonyt10 exactly
Thank you Sridhar Kaushik
3:50 Vdeo call at that time... WTF
It was even done when Nightline started in 1980, and in fact, also back to Murrow days when that late, great CBS newsman did Person to Person talking to celebrities, IIRC.
The map.1:50
The assassins weren't killed...one was killed later in interrogation and the other was hanged
this is what they knew right when it happened
they're technically still k!lled
AB-DOHH-MEN
HeyGuy4321
weird
They were not in the golden temple they were in the akal takht
and that is in the same complex
Read the stress on "common men and women of India that drive economy more and make more movement" Also to me it looked as if people were far more encouraged to put a pole of India in NewYork stock exchange and influence stock markets for "common people". If anyone did research on what drives that pole posting in America by Indians, something interesting may come "out".
Indira Ji's assassination or any other may start to make more sense when seen from the that light. To help the common man and woman of India..
RIP
Wow😮😮.
This is what i call news reporting. No political agendas, no hate, no one side, only facts and truth. And they are showing the right map of india.
When i look at today whether it is indian media or foreign media, the reporting on india is so biased.
I agree
🍀
Before TRP existed!
Trp?
"abDOHmen?" Its abdomen
Unlike Koppel..maybe he didn't read his copy before air
Okay Shakespeare u win. There are different accents and different ways of pronunciation. Sorry if him pronouncing abdohmen didn’t get through ur thick skull fast enough. Don’t let it hurt ur feelings.
@@starbeekbeek3179 William Shakespeare?? Wow, I'll take that as a compliment . A big thank u! You made my day.
milart12 I wasn’t talking to u dimwit.
31 oct 1984
Journalism of high standards. Days when Western media reported facts.
Most people: AB-do-men
Ted Koppel: ab- DO-men
America used correct map of india at that time.
Ab Doe Men?
The ab dough men....
Dhan dhan sant bhindrawale.
Shera di Kaum
Khalistan zindabaad!
Sikh bodyguard.
I may be around a year so just curious to know the fact...
Satwant singh Beant singh kehar singh 💪
COWARDS. THEY BETRAYED SOMEONE THAT TRUSTED THEM.
@@percyweasley9301 indira gandhi and congress are corrupt. on june 4th we will see modi 3rd term.
@LovepreetSingh-cu6xw they are heroes. One day all of India will consider them heroes like bhagat Singh and Udham Singh
@@sandeepk4093 hnji bhenji
@@percyweasley9301 it is the history of Sikhs. They even betrayed the 10 th guru.
If arnab was anchor "nation wants to know where was Antonio maino when this happened were the security guards agents of sonia gandhi"poochtha hai bharat.
😂😂😂
Listening to Ainslee Embree and shaking my head. In retrospect most of what Indira Gandhi claimed to support the state of emergency that she declared have been proven true.
She was a terrible person. She had her own son killed, she jailed and killed anyone who ran against her
Sanjay Gandhi died in an air crash due to his own negligence. He was Mrs Gandhi's favourite son and her successor. He was instrumental in her victory in the 1980 elections.
Get your facts right and don't comment without any proof!! Right wing ideology only propagates such lies.
Still Punjabis choose congress only why ???? 😎👎
Back when western media used correct indian map
Indira Ghandi: **comes back to life for a few seconds** “You’re both fired!” **dies again**
Bodyguards: “D’oh!”
I see what you did there...simpsons eh
Like to see the gallows in tihar where satwant singh and khera Singh were hanged
Long live Iron Lady Indira Gandhi!
Rahul gandhi was about to murdered too here in karanataka few days ago
He need not be murdered. His existence will murder Congress party itself. Murdering him will only generate sympathy for party and making Priyankga Gandhi strong
How?
I have been in India , this was news to me
Looks like Donald Trump.
ab domen? lol
right next to the ab del Nasser.
The whole thing happened because General Zia armed the separatists of Punjab. This was on the behest of USA. Pakistan, Afghanistan and India were in the crosshairs of USA and USSR. Indira Gandhi had a normalcy bias and got offed by her own body guards after mishandling golden temple situation. Pakistan got a return gift as General Zia and few of his associates were offed by RAW and KGB.
Pagal gulams of Congress party committed riots against Sikh community on a vast scale which is well known however what is not well knows is the vengeance that was unleashed on Congress party supporters later on.
Entire families of Congress party supporters particularly Hindus were wiped out. Thousands were killed thanks to the arms supplied by General Zia's administration. It took the iron will of KPS gill to stop the violence. KPS Gill was not a favorite amongst human rights activists but he couldn't care less. He saved Punjab. Thankfully liberalization happened and people got jobs and became wealthy and less tribal. Unfortunately this normalcy might be short lived.
TV Anchors&Reporters today are actors who play a role in a life movie.
Only when they report news you don’t like
I also support khalistan as long as its capital will be Lahore.
Vik Verma
It will
iron lady
😂
84 was a dangerous time.mrs
Gandhi was tough but you need to be to run a vast country like India. Those
IRA dogs tried to get Maggie
At the Tory conference in
Brighton that year too.
Mrs Gandhi's son took over
And was popular around the
World. Some crazy got him
Too.
He tried to occupy srilanka
@@BCCBMatrimonyHow old are you?
You again missed yr pshychatrist appointment?@@BCCBMatrimony
Indra was a tyrant that attacked a holy place and demonised a largely peaceful minority for short-term political gains. She f***ed around and found out. Same with her son, their trouble making behaviour caught up with him and he also found out
so sad
Akaal takhat nu tauhnde mitt gye takhat kyi 💪