Don't get me wrong, this video is awesome. But why in the world did you feel the need to talk over the sound of the Hunters melee-ing during myth #1? It would have been nice to have at least a clip showing the difference so we could see how noticable it was. Also I wish you didn't test the Cyclone lol, I've been abusing that gun while enjoying everyone else sleeping on it 😂
@itszaque5031 it was definitely a bit silly of me, next time ill make sure you guys can hear the important stuff. Glad you enjoyed though :) (edit: anyone who is disappointed they didn't hear the comparison, check the description)
@Lubenstein1 I mean, anecdotally and both in theroy, its as you said. I think people's complaints are a lil silly lol. The bit about hearing higher frequencies easier is an objective, and speaks for itself lol.
I can't believe I just scrolled down to see if anyone else found it a little annoying that I was talking while the clip was in the background and it turns out to be the first comment
Would've been nice to actually show the comparison of the male/female voices in the first example to hear for myself, instead of talking over the audio x_X
Game developer / programmer here. The sticky bomb is clearly just hard coded to deal 75% of the boss max HP. It is just that simple. How the explosives work with walls is far trickier. How explosions are programmed in video games, is by calculating a spherical area around the explosion and typically you save it on a list. Then you apply the wanted things such as dealing damage and physics interactions for example, for each of the targets within that explosion radius. You probably don't want the explosion to go through everything, so you typically want to have a raycast from the explosion to the target, to check if there is walls or other objects between the explosion and the target. Well, Hunt Showdown has interesting penetration physics. There are different type of walls which are used for penetration calculations, for example the thin wooden walls are different than metallic sheets, so small ammo can penetrate wooden walls but not metal sheet . Long ammo can penetrate multiple wooden walls or one metal sheet. They probably use the same logic with the frag explosion. If there is only a thin wooden wall between the explosion and the target, the explosion damage is applied. But this becomes very tricky when you realize that there are a lot of small objects, such as barrels, crates, buckets etc. on the map. So I think the frag grenades give such a varying results due to small objects and clutter on the map. This sort of problems appear often on other games in cases such as throwing a grenade on a staircase. You would assume a grenade on a staircase to hit a target on the staircase, but there might be no damage at all if this raycast check hits a step in the staircase, leaving the target untouched and players confused. When it comes to staircases for example, you can create the raycast a bit above the grenade to make it unlikely to hit the staircase or have the staircase be a ramp in the physics calculations, but it is always a bit tricky. These are just my thoughts, and it is always impossible to know what they are precisely doing with their code.
I use sticky bombs to kill bosses quite a bit, and all of them take two, and maybe where you stick them plays a part in it but I feel like they all take different amounts of dmg
You didn't test the spread of the Romero hand cannon vs hatchet. You tested the damage fall-off because you used slugs. You need to test spread with buckshot.
Met a player who only brings in ammo boxes, told me he kills players with it and take their guns to finish the rest of the team. Didnt believe him at first but he showed me some of his vids. Its totally nuts.
Pennyshot being so useful on doors is huge. I'm gonna have to start bringing that, being able to pop a barricaded door and breach instantly is a gamechanger when you have to push into a trapped up compound.
Ages ago they explained the explossives and wall interaction mechanic during one of the dev streams. All explossives wrap around corners - think of it a bit like a shadow projected from the point of explossion, but the shadow "wraps" around. Dynamites have higher wrapping potential than frags, and Im guessing big bundle has the highest. This is why your partner was dying when next to the door (it could wrap around over there), but not when there was no "entry" point into the room he was in. Similarily, he would most likely die if there was a window or a walkthrough hole. However if he was sufficiently far away from a corner/entry point, he would most likely be okey, as the imaginary "shadow" couldn't bend/wrap far enough.
For the explosives bouncing off objects exploding in water. Your teammates also count… just so you know. If your buddy runs in front of you while recycling consumables into water you could potentially wipe your whole team in the center event room…. Hypothetically.
Been doing that to newbies for years, I discovered a long time ago about that one. It's always funny when a teammate thinks he's safe then 2 second later explosion.
im more suprised that "wax dynamite blows up in choke" was needed to be tested...I kind of assumed that was like...the whole purpose of it and the water was just a secondary benifit,lol. ((I actually do the same thing you were talking about in that clip but with the wax frag Bomblance. NO ONE expects to get tagged through a choke cloud)) but good on you for being therough.
@MrOrdosan for me I learned about it quite late, i think 700 hours in because i never read the descriptions of stuff. So I thought it might help some people
Love seeing all the legacy bugs with the new engine. Along with the inferior ui. We got hunt 1.1 with the update. You can defuse frag arrows and wax frags from bomb lance.
Firstly, thank you for the video. Learn a few useful tips from that. Cheers But I suggest myth #17 about Romero was misleading, because pellet spread for shotguns is determined by its pellet pattern (a cone). In Hunt this pattern usually associated with normal buckshot ammo or with other custom ammo types such as penny shot and dragon breath. Whereas slug is considering a single projectile and doesn't follow this rule.
don't know if many know about this because I've never heard anyone else speak about it, but martini deadeye with steady aim doesn't have any sway while looking through the scope. its as accurate as your mouse cursor
For the myth where you tried to burn the guy in the water it may have not worked because you went in as teammates and not enemies, but as you said it could also be because of how the shooting range works.
Many hours here and been playing since 2019. Burning when in water hasn't been a thing ever. I've had moments where just my lower torso was in water and they couldn't burn me. Not saying it couldn't happen because of a bug cause it's CRYtek after all.
@@mehrunez4838 I've only been playing since last year, but I managed to burn some players in shallow water using regular fire bombs and the flare gun. It didn’t work every time I tried, but it did a few times. I think it’s a bug in the water mechanics in some parts of the map. I remember in one of the previous maps, there was a small puddle with deeper water that you could still run through.
I wouldn't call ,explosives not going out in water because they hit a wall a myth. I'd call it a bug that has been in the game for a while now. Very sad to see it's still present in the new engine. Crytek has some explaining to do lol
Right, I knew about this bug ages ago but figured it would have been taken care of already. Guess I'll go back to tossing dynamite at extracting players in the river.
well I've tried it on a shooting range and there is no problem actually. All explosives went out after entering water. Maybe that's a problem with the new map only?
it is actually sad as you said even me think that too much and I have a sever postive thinking, but at lest they removed the embarrassing bleeding bug lol
I used the cyclone when I got back into Hunt and found it pretty dirty. I think using it with various non-standard ammo variants give it the various respective recoil patterns, but I always thought it was a pretty strong gun. Never understood people’s beef with it.
You can also blow up the explosives when a hunter is holding them by shooting at them if you aim at the general direction on their hand even if they manage to throw it it stills registers and blows up that can come in handy and might actually result in a double kill if two enemies are close with each other.
Imagine you're pushing a compound after getting shot at with Poison Bolts and Incendiary/Explosive Ammo, you rush into the building and see a guy mid-placing an ammo box, he turns and runs at you, dodging your shot, only to smack you in the head with the god damned thing xD If that happened to me, I wouldn't even be mad, i'd laugh my arse off xD
The penny shot/immolator thing must be relatively new. I've tested this myself before thinking that because it didn't explode barrels that it would not make him rage and explode but it did.
With shotguns or derringer penny shot they've never exploded i found this out today while playing, but its inconsistent to one hit kill EDIT: i dont mean that it was always like this in the game, just that its never happened to me since i've started doing it in the new update, i have 80 hours
@@wishiwascooler ye sorry i wanted to say they have never exploded on me, i didnt mean to say it was always like this in the game i havent played for that long to know
I remember a few years ago, before questlines, you could get a weekly/monthly (don't remember how it worked) to kill someone with an ammo box, honestly I think there should be some hidden challenges or achievements for it, it's a really funny way to kill someone
5:25 weird cause frag ARROWS won’t explode in water even if they hit something dry first 7:50 also I feel like they just coded it to always do 75% damage to bosses if it sticks 11:55 the liquid firebomb in water is def a shooting range thing makes sense that u couldn’t burn away health chunks while downed in the shooting range
Funny story about that last one actually, back around when I first started playing, me and the guys got in a huge multi team fight over all the bounties, and all the guys got downed so it was just me, but I knew where I thought the only enemy was, then suddenly I got jumped out of nowhere by somebody and I panicked so hard I failed to switch to my melee, instead pulling out a toolbox, but I still ended up charging a melee with it, and then I legit just caved this enemy Hunter's skull in with the tool box lol, it legit saved the game, too
#10 - that's on purpose, sticky is not supposed to one shot any boss #11 - explosions go through cracks in walls, so if there is a tiny opening, it will kill, if no crack in the wall then no dmg #16 - this stops working with high velo ammo
The length of the stock would not change the distance the slug would need to travel before exiting the barrel, which is what would affect accuracy at range, the barrel length is the only thing that should affect that. 🤓
14:52 i believe ppl thought that from the fact that drilling shorty hatchet have more range that the normal drilling shorty, it in the stat of the drilling but it seems like they are not the same
For testing against AI you can just load into the advanced tutorial you have 2 imolators fenced into a small section at the compound and you can find every type of special enemy so you can test your weaponry on them
Maybe the hellborne didn't die because some monsters have hidden resistance values ? For instance, hives reduce by 33% the damage they take from compact ammo and stabbing weapons.
the wax dyno isn't a myth.. its literally as intended. did you know, chokes negate explosive bolts and frag arrows though? also, I'm pretty sure the sticky bomb's functionality when stuck to a boss isn't a flat damage number but just as you said; 75% of it's health. also working as intended. the explosives in water is a bug and has been for years. burning in water doesn't work. enough of their body has to be out of water for it to work. almost any explosive can kill through certain walls. depends on how they coded the wall, if it has doors, windows, or even cracks in the wall. if a wall has cracks large enough to shoot ammo that can't penetrate through it or sometimes even cracks you can see through, you'll 100% take explosive damage. frags go through a lot of floors/walls. some of this info was good.. a lot of it wasn't myth at all. in fact I'm not even sure where it came from as being a question. more accurate title would be "hunt tips/secrets/info you may not know".. a good example not mentioned, if you have all 3 clues for the boss, you can view it in darksight. if it's not moving, either no1 has engaged it yet or it's already dead. if it's moving, someone is fighting it. this used to be accurate for the indicator on the map but that was patched. dark sight still works though.
i was at the beginning of the vedio like, yea dude we all know that and at the moment that he mentioned that emulator well not explode with benny shots i DROPPED my jaw loool i never know that bennies will not make hi explode really thank you for this info lol xD
I realised the penny shot agaisnt immolators when i jsut decided one game to "fuck it" and shot immo with terminus and when it didnt explode my face was like watdafak. after 1500 hours you still learn new things it seems
Hello, For the grenade and dynamite kills trought walls its simpler than that. I tested it before Hunt 1896 and its just based on distance. You can die trought any wall be it wooden stone or metal as long as you are within 4or5 m from the explosion. And i mean you have to be in that sweet spot of 4/5 meters. If you are closer than that you won't die, is you are further you won't die aswell. Its a bug that existed since the launch of the game and it never got fixed.
they changed it a few patches ago, that hunters dont burn in water anymore. instead the fire ticks away the health bar for as long, as the fire is there.
My guess is that the hellborn thing with bombs isn't unintentional. If he could just be insta deleted by any old dynamite stick that'd be pretty lame, and he's already a bit easy to kill so I'd say it is fair.
Another myth for you to test, that nobody's covered so far: Check if you can kill smb with a sticky bomb throw to the head. Not the blow, but the hit itself. Because my teammate did it.
There are some places where you can set people on fire that are still in the water. But when you walk there you dont hear water and they are just touching the water and are not really under it. Happens when there are stones or other stuff so thats seems more like a glitch with certain points not conting the hunter as under water because the model is help up by a tiny rock or something like that.
Great video, some pretty interesting stuff. Only thing that bothered me is that you kept talking over the clips of hunters melee sounds. Just a minor nitpick I would've liked to hear the game audio by itself atleast for a few seconds.
Someone probably already said this, but there's a bug with explosives, where under certain conditions, you will take damage through walls, regardless of type of wall, including concrete and stone. They haven't fixed this yet either, i've had it happen to where i die from a dynamite that lands on the floor below, with no line-of-sight to me
05:36 when you talked about rotjaw... thats basically how I killed rotjaw 50% of the times. I thought most people already knew about the "myths" you are talking about. I would personally call it game sense but yeah I guess its not common for everyone
I only just learned of this trick! I had been timing dynamite air bursts on Rotjaw’s head when it’s surfaced and have one shot it a few times when teammates let me.
Hellborn does get damaged more when you hit the sticky on his head, i think you missed in your test. It doesn't insta kill him but it does do somewhat more damage, half a bar to be exact.
I think you misunderstood Myth #17: Romero Hatchet has actually less spread with buckshot (standart ammo) than Romero Handcannon, giving it higher effective range. This has no effect on slugs. I don't know if or how much flechette/pennyshot/dragonsbreath are effected by this.
Regarding chokes and explosives: If you are in a pinch and feeling like a maniac - you can cook off explosives in your hands, even in choke clouds, and they will blow up (and kill you, and anyone nearby)
About explosions and walls there is a full research in russian. Long story short, it is a bug. In some cases you get a blast wave behind a wall. It is not about doors, it is about distances.
Teamate sounds are amplified Don't take them as reference to how well you can hear other hunters. Pro tip for opening barricade doors: ping the position of the bar and shoot it though another wall
Idk if that’s true or not, but even if it’s true, when both hunters are my teammates it makes no difference if they are amplified or not. Just like in math, if you add +2 on both sides, nothing changes.
you can 100% burn people with a liquid firebomb in water unless they recently changed it. maybe that is something they did in the update. i remember during the rotjaw event mike was talking about how it was important to bring liquid firebombs, not only for the rain but for burning them in water. so weird. I would be curious when rain comes back if it does work in the rain still?
I’m trying to find this out myself but everyone is commenting something different lol, some people say it was a feature and got removed, others saying it was never in the game, and some saying it will work in bounty hunt and not in shooting range, and others saying you can do it in some pools of water but it’s random…
I've seen the video of the dude who tested all the explosives and the basic rule is following - all doors and windows are penetrable - if hunter even with his tiny bit could be visible by the explosion generator even through the closed door - then hunter recieves the damage - even if the tinies bit is visible the hunter recieves the full damage to all body parts so thats the explanation why from the door sides hunter was taking the damage but from the solid wall even though the same type - he didn't
Взрывы гранат проходят через любое препятствие на стыке где урон резко уменьшается, у разных гранат это разное расстояние, но так вполне можно убить людей через каменную или кирпичную стену, ну и крайтеки знают об этом, но такое случается не так часто так что исправлять не собираются, так что если хорошо приноровится можно убивать сквозь стены мосты укрытия и т.д.
10. He's just resisting to explosives. Bosses all have a resistance and a weakness, guess you found one resistance here. A bit like Scrapbeak helmet resisting to slashing, but not the body.
For #9 i suggest you test it on live servers. The old free-roaming tutorial did not behave the same when it came to the nades exploding in the water after bouncing off a surface bug, so it's possible the shooting range might also not provide identical results.
Don't get me wrong, this video is awesome. But why in the world did you feel the need to talk over the sound of the Hunters melee-ing during myth #1? It would have been nice to have at least a clip showing the difference so we could see how noticable it was.
Also I wish you didn't test the Cyclone lol, I've been abusing that gun while enjoying everyone else sleeping on it 😂
I was thinking the same thing.... ''Tried so hard to hear them all, but in the end it didnt even matter''
@itszaque5031 it was definitely a bit silly of me, next time ill make sure you guys can hear the important stuff. Glad you enjoyed though :)
(edit: anyone who is disappointed they didn't hear the comparison, check the description)
@Lubenstein1 I mean, anecdotally and both in theroy, its as you said. I think people's complaints are a lil silly lol.
The bit about hearing higher frequencies easier is an objective, and speaks for itself lol.
@@JadsonSistemasthats just you
I can't believe I just scrolled down to see if anyone else found it a little annoying that I was talking while the clip was in the background and it turns out to be the first comment
Some say he’s still in the shooting range with his colleague.
Would've been nice to actually show the comparison of the male/female voices in the first example to hear for myself, instead of talking over the audio x_X
yep would have actually been nice
came here for this!!! why did he do this?!?!?!?
@Null-byte sorry for the silly goose moment. If you still care, I just uploaded a shorts regarding the audio comparison :)
@@Lubenstein1 Awesome! Just watched it. Nice work!
I just wanted to verify, was it a colleague you were in the shooting range with?
😭😭
Game developer / programmer here.
The sticky bomb is clearly just hard coded to deal 75% of the boss max HP. It is just that simple.
How the explosives work with walls is far trickier. How explosions are programmed in video games, is by calculating a spherical area around the explosion and typically you save it on a list. Then you apply the wanted things such as dealing damage and physics interactions for example, for each of the targets within that explosion radius. You probably don't want the explosion to go through everything, so you typically want to have a raycast from the explosion to the target, to check if there is walls or other objects between the explosion and the target.
Well, Hunt Showdown has interesting penetration physics. There are different type of walls which are used for penetration calculations, for example the thin wooden walls are different than metallic sheets, so small ammo can penetrate wooden walls but not metal sheet . Long ammo can penetrate multiple wooden walls or one metal sheet. They probably use the same logic with the frag explosion. If there is only a thin wooden wall between the explosion and the target, the explosion damage is applied.
But this becomes very tricky when you realize that there are a lot of small objects, such as barrels, crates, buckets etc. on the map. So I think the frag grenades give such a varying results due to small objects and clutter on the map.
This sort of problems appear often on other games in cases such as throwing a grenade on a staircase. You would assume a grenade on a staircase to hit a target on the staircase, but there might be no damage at all if this raycast check hits a step in the staircase, leaving the target untouched and players confused. When it comes to staircases for example, you can create the raycast a bit above the grenade to make it unlikely to hit the staircase or have the staircase be a ramp in the physics calculations, but it is always a bit tricky.
These are just my thoughts, and it is always impossible to know what they are precisely doing with their code.
OR the hellborn has 50% resistance to explosion damage?
@@lmoa3917 That is a good point. It very much can be that as well, I guess it would be easy to test with other explosives.
Could also be a damage clamp mechanic, boss is unable to take more than 75% of health from any one instance of damage.
I use sticky bombs to kill bosses quite a bit, and all of them take two, and maybe where you stick them plays a part in it but I feel like they all take different amounts of dmg
You didn't test the spread of the Romero hand cannon vs hatchet. You tested the damage fall-off because you used slugs. You need to test spread with buckshot.
Checked the comments for this exact thing. Glad someone else thought it too.
silly goose moment
The Man testing bullet spread with ammunition that doesnt have bullet spread😂😂
You have to have some comedy mixed in.
the penny shot not exploding an imolator is new with the 1896 update btw, its in the patch notes
ah okay, makes sense now why some people said it used to explode
Met a player who only brings in ammo boxes, told me he kills players with it and take their guns to finish the rest of the team. Didnt believe him at first but he showed me some of his vids. Its totally nuts.
Myth busted
Pennyshot being so useful on doors is huge. I'm gonna have to start bringing that, being able to pop a barricaded door and breach instantly is a gamechanger when you have to push into a trapped up compound.
Ages ago they explained the explossives and wall interaction mechanic during one of the dev streams. All explossives wrap around corners - think of it a bit like a shadow projected from the point of explossion, but the shadow "wraps" around. Dynamites have higher wrapping potential than frags, and Im guessing big bundle has the highest. This is why your partner was dying when next to the door (it could wrap around over there), but not when there was no "entry" point into the room he was in. Similarily, he would most likely die if there was a window or a walkthrough hole. However if he was sufficiently far away from a corner/entry point, he would most likely be okey, as the imaginary "shadow" couldn't bend/wrap far enough.
Its funny cause its like overpressure but here its fully blocked by a wood wall as if it was titanium
For the explosives bouncing off objects exploding in water. Your teammates also count… just so you know. If your buddy runs in front of you while recycling consumables into water you could potentially wipe your whole team in the center event room…. Hypothetically.
Been doing that to newbies for years, I discovered a long time ago about that one. It's always funny when a teammate thinks he's safe then 2 second later explosion.
im more suprised that "wax dynamite blows up in choke" was needed to be tested...I kind of assumed that was like...the whole purpose of it and the water was just a secondary benifit,lol.
((I actually do the same thing you were talking about in that clip but with the wax frag Bomblance. NO ONE expects to get tagged through a choke cloud))
but good on you for being therough.
I would have been more surprised if it hadn't blown up lol.
Wax dynamite has existed in the game for longer than choke bombs.
Isn't that also written in the Tooltip like, it doesn't extinguish in Water and Chokeclouds?
@MrOrdosan for me I learned about it quite late, i think 700 hours in because i never read the descriptions of stuff. So I thought it might help some people
You know something crazy is about to happen when the colleagues get involved
Love seeing all the legacy bugs with the new engine. Along with the inferior ui. We got hunt 1.1 with the update. You can defuse frag arrows and wax frags from bomb lance.
The engine isn’t actually new, it’s just an updated version with modern lighting techniques and modern technology added into it like amd FSR and DLSS
And when you have a male voice talking over both of them you can’t hear either voice.
@zevenzeros sorry for the silly mistake. If you still care, I just uploaded a shorts showcasing the difference with no voiceover ofcourse :)
@@Lubenstein1 It’s ok I was just joking. I appreciate the time you took to make the video. Thanks keep up the good work.
Firstly, thank you for the video. Learn a few useful tips from that. Cheers
But I suggest myth #17 about Romero was misleading, because pellet spread for shotguns is determined by its pellet pattern (a cone). In Hunt this pattern usually associated with normal buckshot ammo or with other custom ammo types such as penny shot and dragon breath.
Whereas slug is considering a single projectile and doesn't follow this rule.
Pennyshot derringer is super slept on
This man loves the word "colleague."
don't know if many know about this because I've never heard anyone else speak about it, but martini deadeye with steady aim doesn't have any sway while looking through the scope. its as accurate as your mouse cursor
oki I’ll try
Did you test
OMG, I'm trying the pennyshot and the Cyclone tonight.
Nice contente!
For the myth where you tried to burn the guy in the water it may have not worked because you went in as teammates and not enemies, but as you said it could also be because of how the shooting range works.
Many hours here and been playing since 2019. Burning when in water hasn't been a thing ever. I've had moments where just my lower torso was in water and they couldn't burn me. Not saying it couldn't happen because of a bug cause it's CRYtek after all.
@@mehrunez4838 I've only been playing since last year, but I managed to burn some players in shallow water using regular fire bombs and the flare gun. It didn’t work every time I tried, but it did a few times. I think it’s a bug in the water mechanics in some parts of the map. I remember in one of the previous maps, there was a small puddle with deeper water that you could still run through.
Imagine an audio myth being based around the ability to hear the audio in a mythbusting video.
Yeah that was silly of me :(
I wouldn't call ,explosives not going out in water because they hit a wall a myth. I'd call it a bug that has been in the game for a while now. Very sad to see it's still present in the new engine. Crytek has some explaining to do lol
Right, I knew about this bug ages ago but figured it would have been taken care of already. Guess I'll go back to tossing dynamite at extracting players in the river.
Its kind of like Crytek is pretty inept at actually fixing the game and everytime they DO "fix" something it breaks 8 other things.
well I've tried it on a shooting range and there is no problem actually. All explosives went out after entering water. Maybe that's a problem with the new map only?
@@neten643 no the problem has been around before the new map, I'd imagine it's the shooting range that's giving the different results
it is actually sad as you said even me think that too much and I have a sever postive thinking, but at lest they removed the embarrassing bleeding bug lol
I used the cyclone when I got back into Hunt and found it pretty dirty. I think using it with various non-standard ammo variants give it the various respective recoil patterns, but I always thought it was a pretty strong gun. Never understood people’s beef with it.
You can also blow up the explosives when a hunter is holding them by shooting at them if you aim at the general direction on their hand even if they manage to throw it it stills registers and blows up that can come in handy and might actually result in a double kill if two enemies are close with each other.
Imagine you're pushing a compound after getting shot at with Poison Bolts and Incendiary/Explosive Ammo, you rush into the building and see a guy mid-placing an ammo box, he turns and runs at you, dodging your shot, only to smack you in the head with the god damned thing xD
If that happened to me, I wouldn't even be mad, i'd laugh my arse off xD
The penny shot/immolator thing must be relatively new. I've tested this myself before thinking that because it didn't explode barrels that it would not make him rage and explode but it did.
With shotguns or derringer penny shot they've never exploded i found this out today while playing, but its inconsistent to one hit kill
EDIT: i dont mean that it was always like this in the game, just that its never happened to me since i've started doing it in the new update, i have 80 hours
@@wilihey1425 I've shot one with it years ago and he exploded
@@wilihey1425I’ve also hit one and it exploded before this is not always been the case
It is new with the update, before they exploded.
@@wishiwascooler ye sorry i wanted to say they have never exploded on me, i didnt mean to say it was always like this in the game i havent played for that long to know
I remember a few years ago, before questlines, you could get a weekly/monthly (don't remember how it worked) to kill someone with an ammo box, honestly I think there should be some hidden challenges or achievements for it, it's a really funny way to kill someone
Pretty much anything would be better than current “challenges” heal damage and visit compounds are the laziest challenges ever
5:25 weird cause frag ARROWS won’t explode in water even if they hit something dry first
7:50 also I feel like they just coded it to always do 75% damage to bosses if it sticks
11:55 the liquid firebomb in water is def a shooting range thing makes sense that u couldn’t burn away health chunks while downed in the shooting range
Liquid fire not working is for sure a shooting range thing
Funny story about that last one actually, back around when I first started playing, me and the guys got in a huge multi team fight over all the bounties, and all the guys got downed so it was just me, but I knew where I thought the only enemy was, then suddenly I got jumped out of nowhere by somebody and I panicked so hard I failed to switch to my melee, instead pulling out a toolbox, but I still ended up charging a melee with it, and then I legit just caved this enemy Hunter's skull in with the tool box lol, it legit saved the game, too
The explosion goes around the door. It works that way with fences too.
#10 - that's on purpose, sticky is not supposed to one shot any boss
#11 - explosions go through cracks in walls, so if there is a tiny opening, it will kill, if no crack in the wall then no dmg
#16 - this stops working with high velo ammo
Huh, I always assumed the choke cloud would put out a waxed dynamite stick. I guess I now have a reason to bring those, lol.
The length of the stock would not change the distance the slug would need to travel before exiting the barrel, which is what would affect accuracy at range, the barrel length is the only thing that should affect that. 🤓
yeah I realized when i was reviewing the final video xD it was a silly goose moment
Myth 20 genuinely made me laugh out loud. Gonna try to go for a clip this weekend
Hellborn probably has an explosive resistance like rotjaw does
This is how i learned you can melee with the ammo box
I’m proud
the pennyshot used to penetrate immolator, they must haved changed it with this update. good to know thanks man.
14:52 i believe ppl thought that from the fact that drilling shorty hatchet have more range that the normal drilling shorty, it in the stat of the drilling but it seems like they are not the same
thank you for the info my man
For testing against AI you can just load into the advanced tutorial
you have 2 imolators fenced into a small section at the compound and you can find every type of special enemy so you can test your weaponry on them
Maybe the hellborne didn't die because some monsters have hidden resistance values ? For instance, hives reduce by 33% the damage they take from compact ammo and stabbing weapons.
Yeah this is why
the wax dyno isn't a myth.. its literally as intended. did you know, chokes negate explosive bolts and frag arrows though? also, I'm pretty sure the sticky bomb's functionality when stuck to a boss isn't a flat damage number but just as you said; 75% of it's health. also working as intended. the explosives in water is a bug and has been for years. burning in water doesn't work. enough of their body has to be out of water for it to work. almost any explosive can kill through certain walls. depends on how they coded the wall, if it has doors, windows, or even cracks in the wall. if a wall has cracks large enough to shoot ammo that can't penetrate through it or sometimes even cracks you can see through, you'll 100% take explosive damage. frags go through a lot of floors/walls. some of this info was good.. a lot of it wasn't myth at all. in fact I'm not even sure where it came from as being a question. more accurate title would be "hunt tips/secrets/info you may not know".. a good example not mentioned, if you have all 3 clues for the boss, you can view it in darksight. if it's not moving, either no1 has engaged it yet or it's already dead. if it's moving, someone is fighting it. this used to be accurate for the indicator on the map but that was patched. dark sight still works though.
i was at the beginning of the vedio like, yea dude we all know that and at the moment that he mentioned that emulator well not explode with benny shots i DROPPED my jaw loool i never know that bennies will not make hi explode really thank you for this info lol xD
I guess we're not getting Hunt on the Switch anytime soon, because Nintendo doesn't like emulators very much.
That wax dynamite thing is surprising but definitely could come in handy
Some of these were very useful to know, thank you
I realised the penny shot agaisnt immolators when i jsut decided one game to "fuck it" and shot immo with terminus and when it didnt explode my face was like watdafak. after 1500 hours you still learn new things it seems
Those were sooooo interesting! Thanks a lot!
tyty :)
Respect or simpathy for the colleague that had to be killed over and over and then got up for going to work in order to prove myths.
😄indeed lol
Hello, For the grenade and dynamite kills trought walls its simpler than that. I tested it before Hunt 1896 and its just based on distance. You can die trought any wall be it wooden stone or metal as long as you are within 4or5 m from the explosion. And i mean you have to be in that sweet spot of 4/5 meters. If you are closer than that you won't die, is you are further you won't die aswell. Its a bug that existed since the launch of the game and it never got fixed.
they changed it a few patches ago, that hunters dont burn in water anymore. instead the fire ticks away the health bar for as long, as the fire is there.
But my teammate’s health wasn’t ticking away?
No wonder the cyclone always felt so weird
Appreciate the info keep up the good work!
Amazing video.
My guess is that the hellborn thing with bombs isn't unintentional. If he could just be insta deleted by any old dynamite stick that'd be pretty lame, and he's already a bit easy to kill so I'd say it is fair.
Another myth for you to test, that nobody's covered so far:
Check if you can kill smb with a sticky bomb throw to the head. Not the blow, but the hit itself.
Because my teammate did it.
whats a smb?
@@Lubenstein1 smb is short for 'somebody'
i love penny shot how did i never know it broke stuff like that, time to become the coolaid man of hunt
xD
There are some places where you can set people on fire that are still in the water. But when you walk there you dont hear water and they are just touching the water and are not really under it. Happens when there are stones or other stuff so thats seems more like a glitch with certain points not conting the hunter as under water because the model is help up by a tiny rock or something like that.
I do remember some spots like that, but those places count as air so the Molotov will just go through
To Myth number 17, if you wanted to test the spread it would have been more correct to use Buckshot instead of slugs.
Great video!!!
Great video, some pretty interesting stuff. Only thing that bothered me is that you kept talking over the clips of hunters melee sounds. Just a minor nitpick I would've liked to hear the game audio by itself atleast for a few seconds.
Yeah this bothers me so much that I stop watching now 😢
Hellborn is resistent to explosive damage, that's why it didnt die
Great piece of info
Thank you :D
Quality content right here))
indeed, i am about to say that
Also balls from lance will not set immolator
7:35
i actually think, that hellborn has 50% explosive dmg reduction, (it does makes sense, when he does have tendencies to explode)
oh, right, that would make alot of sense. I also think i remember them saying he was immune to 2 things, so i guess 1 of them must be explosive
Psychoghost did a spread analysis of the handcannon some time ago. The hatchet has HIGHER spread than the handcannon.
that’s weird because I tested the spread off camera and there was no difference
Man I have 800hours in game and I learned some new things from your vid. That's awesome, you did a really good job creating this useful video!
Someone probably already said this, but there's a bug with explosives, where under certain conditions, you will take damage through walls, regardless of type of wall, including concrete and stone.
They haven't fixed this yet either, i've had it happen to where i die from a dynamite that lands on the floor below, with no line-of-sight to me
Pennyshot, starshells, and Flairs are concerned blund dmg so they dont ignite immolators
Pennyshot being usable against immolators makes the poison nerf hurt a lot less
05:36 when you talked about rotjaw... thats basically how I killed rotjaw 50% of the times. I thought most people already knew about the "myths" you are talking about. I would personally call it game sense but yeah I guess its not common for everyone
I only just learned of this trick! I had been timing dynamite air bursts on Rotjaw’s head when it’s surfaced and have one shot it a few times when teammates let me.
Bear trap also one taps head and I think consumable box does(never done this one)
Hellborn does get damaged more when you hit the sticky on his head, i think you missed in your test. It doesn't insta kill him but it does do somewhat more damage, half a bar to be exact.
Thanks! I find pennyshot and cyclone info very useful! Oh yeah, and the m/f sounds too!
You just earned a subscriber with this great content!
no you’re great!
I think you misunderstood Myth #17: Romero Hatchet has actually less spread with buckshot (standart ammo) than Romero Handcannon, giving it higher effective range. This has no effect on slugs. I don't know if or how much flechette/pennyshot/dragonsbreath are effected by this.
People just forget that pennyshot deals Bludgeoning damage. It behaves similar to every blunt melee. Description of it is a bit misleading.
Wow, this video has more views than players. Good job.
#11 i still remember the time when frag can dmg you through wall, that shit was broken back then
You hit the head with the ammo box. since the update all head hits are ista kills. I wouldn't confirm that as ammo boxes can "one hit kill"
Regarding chokes and explosives: If you are in a pinch and feeling like a maniac - you can cook off explosives in your hands, even in choke clouds, and they will blow up (and kill you, and anyone nearby)
About explosions and walls there is a full research in russian. Long story short, it is a bug. In some cases you get a blast wave behind a wall. It is not about doors, it is about distances.
Wait until you realize the audible distance of out-of-stamina melee.
Teamate sounds are amplified
Don't take them as reference to how well you can hear other hunters.
Pro tip for opening barricade doors: ping the position of the bar and shoot it though another wall
Idk if that’s true or not, but even if it’s true, when both hunters are my teammates it makes no difference if they are amplified or not. Just like in math, if you add +2 on both sides, nothing changes.
you can 100% burn people with a liquid firebomb in water unless they recently changed it. maybe that is something they did in the update. i remember during the rotjaw event mike was talking about how it was important to bring liquid firebombs, not only for the rain but for burning them in water. so weird.
I would be curious when rain comes back if it does work in the rain still?
I’m trying to find this out myself but everyone is commenting something different lol, some people say it was a feature and got removed, others saying it was never in the game, and some saying it will work in bounty hunt and not in shooting range, and others saying you can do it in some pools of water but it’s random…
@@Lubenstein1 I was jc thanks for the video appreciate it.
I've seen the video of the dude who tested all the explosives and the basic rule is following
- all doors and windows are penetrable
- if hunter even with his tiny bit could be visible by the explosion generator even through the closed door - then hunter recieves the damage
- even if the tinies bit is visible the hunter recieves the full damage to all body parts
so thats the explanation why from the door sides hunter was taking the damage but from the solid wall even though the same type - he didn't
lots of them was totaly new for me. thanks for sharing. great video btw :)
Взрывы гранат проходят через любое препятствие на стыке где урон резко уменьшается, у разных гранат это разное расстояние, но так вполне можно убить людей через каменную или кирпичную стену, ну и крайтеки знают об этом, но такое случается не так часто так что исправлять не собираются, так что если хорошо приноровится можно убивать сквозь стены мосты укрытия и т.д.
10. He's just resisting to explosives. Bosses all have a resistance and a weakness, guess you found one resistance here.
A bit like Scrapbeak helmet resisting to slashing, but not the body.
crazy good video, thanks for this gem
The pennyshot change must be new. I remember suggesting that around when it came out.
I posted back in 2021.
Great vid! Thanks for doing this and sharing with the community!
hellborn "could" be weaker against explosives because hes a fire type pokemon? just a theory...A GAME THEORY.
im too new to the game but...now i want to get gud enough to take down people with the ammo box.
do it!
Informative video, thanks for this
If a myth is true, it's not a myth. You cant "confirm a myth" after proving it wrong - you bust it, because it's actually true.
For #9 i suggest you test it on live servers. The old free-roaming tutorial did not behave the same when it came to the nades exploding in the water after bouncing off a surface bug, so it's possible the shooting range might also not provide identical results.