Very handy to have in the studio - seems incredibly well thought out . . . the designers obviously know what's what for bassists. (I'm a guitarist, occasional bass for a session if we're in a hurry, so perfect for me!). Great demo, cheers.
The next step is to add an FX-Loop and those box sized preamp (e.g: this and the alpha omega photon) will be perfect for (almost) every purpose. Hope they'll get to that soon!
@@Ninjametal Sure, but let's say that for any reason you need to use both some extra effects and the cab simulator: without a loop you can't do that (without added external gear), so to have one would mean having an even wider range of possibilities in a small sized box
@@Ninjametal With this pedal being billed as something that can "replace your rig" that's not really an option. You can't run any modulation, delay, reverb, etc., after the drive of this unit (where they sound great) without running those effects after the entire preamp pedal which negates the benefit of having a cab sim and XLR out of this pedal be your only feed that goes to your recording interface or PA system. Running those effects after this preamp pedal would let you enjoy the sound of them on stage through your amp (if you're using one) and the audience would just have to imagine what they might sound like.
I got one a few months ago and really like it - enough that I started looking at something similar for my guitars. What was really striking was how much better Ampeg did with outputs. The guitar amp in a box that seems to be getting the most love had one single 1/4" output. No XLR for long runs, no dry signal to run to a desk for recording in parallel with wet signal. No signal without IR to run into an amp. No headphone out. No auxiliary input. As well as sounding good, Ampeg have really committed to making this as versatile as you could hope for. - I would have loved a mute switch though, mostly so I could run a tuner from a spare output instead of having to put it in my FX line to do double duty as a mute switch
Every week there’s some new latest and greatest pedal or gear and typically all the UA-cam bassist we all know and love are reviewing these on the same day or within a few days of the each other. I do enjoy the reviews and thus only speak for myself here, but perhaps some balance showing what you do with all this gear, for example live performances, music you are recording, covers, whatever. Most of us amateur bassists (I have no shame in saying that’s me) are not picking up a new pedal or bass every week or 2. I’m not saying eliminate reviews but it would be nice to also be nice see some of how you, and others too, use the gear as a musician, what you are doing and creating musically. IMO.
I'm actually planning on using this as my base tone from now on for future videos, but I completely get what you're saying in terms of using it in different settings and the longevity of a pedal and it's usefulness
Never forget that Patrick Hunter and other influencers always must talk positive about profits. Otherwise manufacturers will not provide them any more and they loose their business. Influencers are not independent. It’s the same as manufacturer’s advertising. Don’t be,I’ve their empathy. Just listen to the facts they present and make your own picture.
I also have the LR Baggs Stadium DI.. has a comp and works / sounds well for less.. I only use it if an unfamiliar backline is offered otherwise my amp is fine without a pedal .. Hartke with Aguilar cabs
Bought one today for my studio. I tried all the outputs. Jammed with it all day. No problems. Settled on the headphone out trs stereo into my audient id44 and half way through the recording the left got super loud. I stopped. Closed the project. Started a new project clean. Set up the tracks with no drum beats, no plug ins. Same issue. I have a Mac Studio. No other instrument issues. It’s going back.
I did not like this pedal at all. People have written about it, but in short: convoluted. Just getting it to not clip was a challenge. Engaging cab sim changes the volume completely bc that has its own volume knob - it resets volume to 50% whenever you change cab sims - and cab sim doesn't even sound that great. Turn the bass way down, turn the main vol to 75%, turn the Level to 50%, turn the cab sim level to 25%... you see? Just choreographing the gain stages on this this is a puzzle. Contacted tech support. Their response - "Just turn it down". So I bought a preamp to turn the signal down? I can barely hear this thing at that point. I have since bought a Darkgless B7K Ultra - same price. It's a dream. Loadable IRs that sound fantastic. Much louder signal, warmer, no issues with clipping, no redundant volume knobs to worry about. I don't know how the SGT got it through user testing. I gave it a chance. I thought, "ok, maybe I'm doing something wrong". Put it aside, tried it another day. Just awful experience. Darkglass nailed it. Great clean tone. Great drive tone. Simple controls.
@@adityanemlekarI also got a BC-1X bass compressor with it. Very nice. If you like more definition in your bass, this brings it out. And funny enough gain staging the B7K and BC-1X pedals together is easier than using the SGT alone.
I didnt particularly care for the distortion on the SCR pedal either, but I though the clean sound was good. It sounded particularly good when put in front of a Darkglass pedal. My last gig I just brought my pedal board and the chain was Super Symmetry - SCR - Vintage Ultra then DI out to the board and it sounded really good
I bought one when it first came out and after a lot of back and forth with it and my Sansamp. I decided to send it back. It sounds great, just not my sound I can get with my current board. I was hoping it would replace my board. The compressor is not great and the drive is meh. I'm sure it will fit a lot of people's sound, just not mine.
Waiting on my 3rd. First one popped when I turned it on and off and second developed problems with cab simulator. Great when working. I hope I just got a couple of duds and that this next one is ok.
Man is that ever a great little pedal. Over the last several years Ampeg has only gotten better. I may have to get that, once I redo my setup Also a Patrick video ain’t a Patrick video without ole Greeny!!
@@zulu5157 already watched that one. Great video, but I wouldn't say one is 'better' than the other. Both Excel in certain areas where the other does not.
Only way to decide is to try them yourself. In reality you are splitting hairs and either will be fine. But if you get sucked into the rabbit hole of watching video reviews, you know full well you’ll buy the Ampeg and be GAS’ing over the Origin Effects , and vice versa if you buy the Origin.
I will say that the SGT-DI is more versatile option of those two. But having owned the Super Vintage for couple of months now, I think it really nails the Ampeg tone, you literally cant get a bad sound out of it lol.
Ive had mine for a month now … It’s “fairly ok” but it’s NOT an “all in one” as described (no tuner/mute which impedes onstage instrument changes like say your switching from upright to electric) Good news: It does “vintage”, “fuzzy” and “muffled” really well which rounds out your sound and evens your dynamic rage. Not so good: It does not do “Crystal clear punchy” very well. When you bypass its pre section and use it as a DI it comes close but still a little too fuzzy. Battery power would have been nice too at least 4 hours. I’ll be keeping it but I had to buy a tuner so my dream of showing up for a festival gig with only my bass, patchcord and this pedal will not be a reality.
I love it. But I still use a tlc compressor, I don’t like you can’t tweak the compressor other than the what they allow you. Plus I like having it before the preamp.
Bro I run 2 compressors in series, the first one to give it more meatiness in the lows and add sustain and the second one to make it more aggressive and add attack so the bass kicks like a buckshot from a 12 gauge
@@bridgefan87 15 inch speakers with a class A power amp are another important component. Eventually I want to boost my rig up with a couple 21 inch subs
I wonder how this compares to the Nobel, tone-wise. I used to own a Nobel, and the ampeg scr-di. It was no contest. The Nobel was much better. Maybe this gets closer to some great tube tone?
I tried out one of these today with a P bass and could pull a decent sound after an hour of tweaking. At the moment I'm running a Geddy Lee 2112-DI into a Sansamp Programmable bass driver (I know, I should only be using 1, not both!), but the drive sound and mids on the Geddy unit has a great mid focused tone, while the Sansamp bass driver provides a fat scooped Ampeg tone. I was hoping this Ampeg SGT-DI would replace them, but I'm not convinced. Your tones in this video are great though. Thanks for the vid.
I tried the Stomp software version with my DAW and couldn't get a bass sound after a day with it that's comparable to my SansAmp Programmable Bass Driver. Maybe the unit is better?
@@zanotronThe SA programable DI is a gem. Though about buying this, but that pedal does just about everything I want and still sounds great. And is built like a tank.
Y'know it's a cool bass DI preamp box but in price it's competing with the Two Notes Revolt(It's a bit more expensive even) and I really don't think it beats it out in terms of both diversity of sound and how good the sound is.
I haven’t seen a review of the revolt that made me feel like it would be worth it. Imo they’re both one trick ponies in the sense that you’ll probably find one sound and use that 99% of the time. I don’t flip through presets at gigs. I toggle drive and a few external effects throughout sets and that’s it. All that being said the ampeg sound really really good.
If Ampeg had put this pedal out instead of the SCR-DI, it could have been a hit. But now the market is saturated, especially since the Origin Super Vintage seems to be the measure of all things. I personally miss a tuner. It doesn't have to be a fancy tuner, just a quick way to check the tuning. An extra tuner pedal means more cables, devices on stage, etc. No, I'd rather stick with my Tech21 Fly Rig or the SH-1. I have everything I need with me in an easy and lightweight package, and everyone so far was happy with the sound. Compression is not that important in my opinion, as FOH guys compresses the bass like crazy anyway in these days.
Why? I've listend to your demo, I can't see any reason to. Just because it's new doesn't mean better. Like most newer gear with a bunch of options, how many are actually getting used?
I would call this the Darkglass effect. Suddenly there was a Finnish company building *insanely* high quality bass preamps/DIs, and everyone is scrambling (pun intended) to catch up. Ampeg's first effort was terrible, but this seems like a really good unit that still represents their essence. Really like the clean tones. The drive, unfortunately, isn't for me. Will have to spend the $50 extra on the B7K Ultra.
SCR scrambler channel sucked, it sounded fizzy. The “clean” was meh, it didn’t stop Sansamp sales. This new pedal otoh, that’ll take a bite out of everything except the Broughton. That’s the reigning pedal if you like ultra lo and ultra high kicked in with more of an SVT2 sound. Sure, cab sim added is nice bc it’s a nod towards Ampeg trying to keep up with what’s been selling in the pedal game.
I had the SCR 4 days and sold it ...bad sounding...also most of all the other SVT clone pedals out there...never have been satisfied with that mid scooped sound , which had no balls and grid....Not like my Ashdown little bastard ,which has it !...but will give that SGt a try one day...brand new toy is in town ..
It’s not so much that it sounds woofy it just actually has some meat to it instead of how his tone normally sounds .all upper mids and highs. It’s like he finally got a taste of how a bass guitar should sound. It’s probably my favorite tone he’s ever come up with. It’s big bold and meaty instead of thin and clacky. It still sounds like him but as if his bass started eating a diet of nothing but burnt ends brisket
I did not like the SCR either. After lugging 810s & 410HLFs, they give us a tone monster that fits in a backpack. Great stuff!
I have one and absolutely love it.
Very handy to have in the studio - seems incredibly well thought out . . . the designers obviously know what's what for bassists. (I'm a guitarist, occasional bass for a session if we're in a hurry, so perfect for me!). Great demo, cheers.
The next step is to add an FX-Loop and those box sized preamp (e.g: this and the alpha omega photon) will be perfect for (almost) every purpose. Hope they'll get to that soon!
Preamps don't necessarily need effects loops, as one can place effects between preamp and poweramp.
@@Ninjametal Sure, but let's say that for any reason you need to use both some extra effects and the cab simulator: without a loop you can't do that (without added external gear), so to have one would mean having an even wider range of possibilities in a small sized box
@@Ninjametal With this pedal being billed as something that can "replace your rig" that's not really an option. You can't run any modulation, delay, reverb, etc., after the drive of this unit (where they sound great) without running those effects after the entire preamp pedal which negates the benefit of having a cab sim and XLR out of this pedal be your only feed that goes to your recording interface or PA system. Running those effects after this preamp pedal would let you enjoy the sound of them on stage through your amp (if you're using one) and the audience would just have to imagine what they might sound like.
The Laney Digbeth has an effects loop.
@@TAAK9SAR11 It does! And from the videos I've seen it sounds great. But it doesn't have a cabsim.
I got one a few months ago and really like it - enough that I started looking at something similar for my guitars. What was really striking was how much better Ampeg did with outputs. The guitar amp in a box that seems to be getting the most love had one single 1/4" output. No XLR for long runs, no dry signal to run to a desk for recording in parallel with wet signal. No signal without IR to run into an amp. No headphone out. No auxiliary input. As well as sounding good, Ampeg have really committed to making this as versatile as you could hope for. - I would have loved a mute switch though, mostly so I could run a tuner from a spare output instead of having to put it in my FX line to do double duty as a mute switch
So I can feed the soundman the DIR out which has everything and then use the THRU(that has nothing from pedal?) to feed my front end of amp?
Great review. The pedal we were expecting from Ampeg. 🤘🏻
Fantastic production, editing, mixing, and content!
Dear Patric. Can you maybe make a comparison video between this and the tech 21 vt di box in the future? I'm not sure which one I want to buy,
Showing it as live amp sim with pedals in front would be cool
Every week there’s some new latest and greatest pedal or gear and typically all the UA-cam bassist we all know and love are reviewing these on the same day or within a few days of the each other.
I do enjoy the reviews and thus only speak for myself here, but perhaps some balance showing what you do with all this gear, for example live performances, music you are recording, covers, whatever. Most of us amateur bassists (I have no shame in saying that’s me) are not picking up a new pedal or bass every week or 2. I’m not saying eliminate reviews but it would be nice to also be nice see some of how you, and others too, use the gear as a musician, what you are doing and creating musically. IMO.
I'm actually planning on using this as my base tone from now on for future videos, but I completely get what you're saying in terms of using it in different settings and the longevity of a pedal and it's usefulness
Excellent point!
Brilliant point.
A good bass does not need much preamp. I use built in eq for some extra bass and that’s it.
Never forget that Patrick Hunter and other influencers always must talk positive about profits. Otherwise manufacturers will not provide them any more and they loose their business. Influencers are not independent. It’s the same as manufacturer’s advertising. Don’t be,I’ve their empathy. Just listen to the facts they present and make your own picture.
I’m fine with my Tech21 VT Bass DI
Green jazz bass… best sounding gear and amazing with this ampeg pedal preamp!
I went out on a limb & snagged a used one to save a few bucks. I love it!
I also have the LR Baggs Stadium DI.. has a comp and works / sounds well for less.. I only use it if an unfamiliar backline is offered otherwise my amp is fine without a pedal .. Hartke with Aguilar cabs
I don’t understand where do you plug this into?… a rocket amp or a stand alone cabinet? and what is a preamp? Thanks in advance
you have to plug it into a combo or amp & cab or else the signal won’t get properly amplified
Bought one today for my studio. I tried all the outputs. Jammed with it all day. No problems. Settled on the headphone out trs stereo into my audient id44 and half way through the recording the left got super loud. I stopped. Closed the project. Started a new project clean. Set up the tracks with no drum beats, no plug ins. Same issue. I have a Mac Studio. No other instrument issues. It’s going back.
Nice.. But I do get similar tones out of my Sansamp VT bass DeLuxe... The Review and sounds from the Ampeg box are great.
Great video thanks for sharing 👍🏿
I did not like this pedal at all. People have written about it, but in short: convoluted. Just getting it to not clip was a challenge. Engaging cab sim changes the volume completely bc that has its own volume knob - it resets volume to 50% whenever you change cab sims - and cab sim doesn't even sound that great. Turn the bass way down, turn the main vol to 75%, turn the Level to 50%, turn the cab sim level to 25%... you see? Just choreographing the gain stages on this this is a puzzle. Contacted tech support. Their response - "Just turn it down". So I bought a preamp to turn the signal down? I can barely hear this thing at that point. I have since bought a Darkgless B7K Ultra - same price. It's a dream. Loadable IRs that sound fantastic. Much louder signal, warmer, no issues with clipping, no redundant volume knobs to worry about. I don't know how the SGT got it through user testing. I gave it a chance. I thought, "ok, maybe I'm doing something wrong". Put it aside, tried it another day. Just awful experience. Darkglass nailed it. Great clean tone. Great drive tone. Simple controls.
Dang! Thanks for this review - I was about to go out and buy this thing. I’m now leaning towards the Darkglass!
@@adityanemlekarI also got a BC-1X bass compressor with it. Very nice. If you like more definition in your bass, this brings it out. And funny enough gain staging the B7K and BC-1X pedals together is easier than using the SGT alone.
What Darkglass are you using?
Have you seen the Markbass tube pedal?
sounds good but is it parallel processing like Darkglass?
It is difficult to control the output volume when using the SGT channel live. Volume controls the effect and should be the output of the effect.
Damn, really surprised you don't like the SCR-DI. I have one and I love it.
I didnt particularly care for the distortion on the SCR pedal either, but I though the clean sound was good. It sounded particularly good when put in front of a Darkglass pedal. My last gig I just brought my pedal board and the chain was Super Symmetry - SCR - Vintage Ultra then DI out to the board and it sounded really good
Great review, thanks
Wieder so ein Video in dem sich der Spieler mehr darstellt, als das Amp, das er vorstellt.
have you ever tried the amt bass crunch?
Bro that Harley Benton looks gorgeous
I bought one when it first came out and after a lot of back and forth with it and my Sansamp. I decided to send it back. It sounds great, just not my sound I can get with my current board. I was hoping it would replace my board. The compressor is not great and the drive is meh. I'm sure it will fit a lot of people's sound, just not mine.
Waiting on my 3rd. First one popped when I turned it on and off and second developed problems with cab simulator. Great when working. I hope I just got a couple of duds and that this next one is ok.
Make that 3 duds and I am done with this pedal. Clearly they have a bad lot of pedals out there!
@@philiplivoti3466thanks for letting us know. That is not good.
Love that ❤
Patrick the bobble head 😅😂
Can u use this directly through a cab without a amp?
It doesn’t really have enough power to go straight to a cab.
I'd like to see a comparison between this and the Two Notes Revolt Bass amp sim. They're the same price
I own a tech 21 vt bass, can't wait for a comparison, no one did yet...
I bet this would work great with the Captor X IR Bass Cabs!
Yamaha buying Ampeg is working out so far.
Oh and Yeah it sounds great with a fishman full circle on a Double bass!
Man is that ever a great little pedal. Over the last several years Ampeg has only gotten better. I may have to get that, once I redo my setup
Also a Patrick video ain’t a Patrick video without ole Greeny!!
My brain: “ah yes, the Ampeg Sergeant Die pedal”
can you make a video of the new EHX Hell Melter? :v thx
Hard one. Two Notes ReVolt Bass or Ampeg SGT
SGT-DI, for sure!
Origin Effects Super Vintage
Sansamp Programable Bass DI and a good compressor. Thanks me later.
Ive been undecided between a SGT-DI or Origin Bassrig. Been watching videos for weeks now lol
Origin Super Vintage is the way
Origin is definitly better. You can find already a comparsion on UA-cam.
@@zulu5157 already watched that one. Great video, but I wouldn't say one is 'better' than the other. Both Excel in certain areas where the other does not.
Only way to decide is to try them yourself. In reality you are splitting hairs and either will be fine. But if you get sucked into the rabbit hole of watching video reviews, you know full well you’ll buy the Ampeg and be GAS’ing over the Origin Effects , and vice versa if you buy the Origin.
I will say that the SGT-DI is more versatile option of those two. But having owned the Super Vintage for couple of months now, I think it really nails the Ampeg tone, you literally cant get a bad sound out of it lol.
Ive had mine for a month now … It’s “fairly ok” but it’s NOT an “all in one” as described (no tuner/mute which impedes onstage instrument changes like say your switching from upright to electric)
Good news: It does “vintage”, “fuzzy” and “muffled” really well which rounds out your sound and evens your dynamic rage.
Not so good:
It does not do “Crystal clear punchy” very well. When you bypass its pre section and use it as a DI it comes close but still a little too fuzzy.
Battery power would have been nice too at least 4 hours.
I’ll be keeping it but I had to buy a tuner so my dream of showing up for a festival gig with only my bass, patchcord and this pedal will not be a reality.
I love it. But I still use a tlc compressor, I don’t like you can’t tweak the compressor other than the what they allow you. Plus I like having it before the preamp.
Bro I run 2 compressors in series, the first one to give it more meatiness in the lows and add sustain and the second one to make it more aggressive and add attack so the bass kicks like a buckshot from a 12 gauge
@@stevenhirsekorn3444 oh snap! That’s killer!! I might have to experiment with it
@@bridgefan87 15 inch speakers with a class A power amp are another important component. Eventually I want to boost my rig up with a couple 21 inch subs
Nice!!
I wonder how this compares to the Nobel, tone-wise. I used to own a Nobel, and the ampeg scr-di. It was no contest. The Nobel was much better. Maybe this gets closer to some great tube tone?
That's comparing apples to oranges.
Have a look at Sushi Box fx. Some great tube pedals at decent prices.
One problem with this type of unit is it`s not cheap and that`s ok if it`s good. Do I really need it?
You are right on. They totally blew it with the compressor and no tuner out.
The thru out is a tuner out.
I tried out one of these today with a P bass and could pull a decent sound after an hour of tweaking. At the moment I'm running a Geddy Lee 2112-DI into a Sansamp Programmable bass driver (I know, I should only be using 1, not both!), but the drive sound and mids on the Geddy unit has a great mid focused tone, while the Sansamp bass driver provides a fat scooped Ampeg tone. I was hoping this Ampeg SGT-DI would replace them, but I'm not convinced. Your tones in this video are great though. Thanks for the vid.
Notification gang what up.
That’s a big boy
Gang gang 💪💪💪
I would argue there is nothing stand out here. There's nothing here that the hx stomp can't do the same or better
I tried the Stomp software version with my DAW and couldn't get a bass sound after a day with it that's comparable to my SansAmp Programmable Bass Driver. Maybe the unit is better?
@@zanotronThe SA programable DI is a gem. Though about buying this, but that pedal does just about everything I want and still sounds great. And is built like a tank.
Y'know it's a cool bass DI preamp box but in price it's competing with the Two Notes Revolt(It's a bit more expensive even) and I really don't think it beats it out in terms of both diversity of sound and how good the sound is.
I haven’t seen a review of the revolt that made me feel like it would be worth it. Imo they’re both one trick ponies in the sense that you’ll probably find one sound and use that 99% of the time. I don’t flip through presets at gigs. I toggle drive and a few external effects throughout sets and that’s it. All that being said the ampeg sound really really good.
I'm buying this if they will let us control the compressor settings
If Ampeg had put this pedal out instead of the SCR-DI, it could have been a hit. But now the market is saturated, especially since the Origin Super Vintage seems to be the measure of all things. I personally miss a tuner. It doesn't have to be a fancy tuner, just a quick way to check the tuning. An extra tuner pedal means more cables, devices on stage, etc. No, I'd rather stick with my Tech21 Fly Rig or the SH-1. I have everything I need with me in an easy and lightweight package, and everyone so far was happy with the sound. Compression is not that important in my opinion, as FOH guys compresses the bass like crazy anyway in these days.
Why? I've listend to your demo, I can't see any reason to. Just because it's new doesn't mean better. Like most newer gear with a bunch of options, how many are actually getting used?
I like it. Needs a tuner out though.
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"All-In-One", right... Does it have a noise gate and a tuner?
Patrick please tell us about your crazy cream colored bass to the left of your head lol
I had high expectations for this pedal and I hated it. I record my bass through JHS color box which gives me just the right punch and control of grit.
Needs presets
I would call this the Darkglass effect. Suddenly there was a Finnish company building *insanely* high quality bass preamps/DIs, and everyone is scrambling (pun intended) to catch up. Ampeg's first effort was terrible, but this seems like a really good unit that still represents their essence.
Really like the clean tones. The drive, unfortunately, isn't for me. Will have to spend the $50 extra on the B7K Ultra.
Ampeg's overdrive has always sounded swampy and waterlogged when it comes to getting tones I really love.
SCR scrambler channel sucked, it sounded fizzy. The “clean” was meh, it didn’t stop Sansamp sales. This new pedal otoh, that’ll take a bite out of everything except the Broughton. That’s the reigning pedal if you like ultra lo and ultra high kicked in with more of an SVT2 sound. Sure, cab sim added is nice bc it’s a nod towards Ampeg trying to keep up with what’s been selling in the pedal game.
I had the SCR 4 days and sold it ...bad sounding...also most of all the other SVT clone pedals out there...never have been satisfied with that mid scooped sound , which had no balls and grid....Not like my Ashdown little bastard ,which has it !...but will give that SGt a try one day...brand new toy is in town ..
Really aggressive marketing by Ampeg. Looking at the pricepoint I disagree that I should replace my rig right now.
I got like #420, just needed to say that.
Diabetes is a pandemic in America! Candy?! Too cheap to put some weed in?
Riiiiiiight!
Sounds really woofy in a bad way
It’s not so much that it sounds woofy it just actually has some meat to it instead of how his tone normally sounds .all upper mids and highs. It’s like he finally got a taste of how a bass guitar should sound. It’s probably my favorite tone he’s ever come up with. It’s big bold and meaty instead of thin and clacky. It still sounds like him but as if his bass started eating a diet of nothing but burnt ends brisket
Until it can mimic my SVP Pro; I’ll pass.
Sounds good but not as good as their all tube head for $1k