Thank you very much, Moges. This was really interesting to listen to the entire talk and to hear the opinion of Amb. Tibor on mentioned issues. Thank you.
It was a very interesting discussion. I got a lot of serious stuff! It is interesting to hear the experience of a person with such extensive knowledge and diplomatic experience and how he understand the crisis in the East African region. Thank you very much. If the discussion is presented to listeners in Amharic translation, many people can reach Gad.
Moges! It was amazing discussion with your honorable guest who is with real understanding of situations on the ground at East African political landscape. Well done.
very nice dialog , I appreciate Mr Moges having such an international diplomat guy. Indirectly we news the US position regarding to Egypt V Ethiopia and Somalia V Ethiopia. Thank you also Mr Tibor for your truth
"Things that will be completed in three months in other countries will be completed in three years in Ethiopia." This show how we are polarized as a country.
Ambassador Tibor the most respected & successful diplomat of USA in Africa for his rational and logical views. "The two mosquito 🦟 " 😂 he made my day! Mogos also one of the few genius political analyst, though I have political differences Difficult to deny his capacity. Tari adda saba cima waanqabuf, dhugaati cimti.
Ambassador Tibor Nagy is one of the most genuine human beings ever lived in our time. He is always standing for the truth and integrity. God Bless You ambassador and wish you long life👏
Ambassador is one of my favorite foriegners who truely loved Ethiopian. May God give long lifetime. Thanks Mogess as usual inviting this resourcesful person.
Good discussion. Ambassador Tibor Nagy is a better Pro Ethiopian than many ethnically biased tribal selfish Ethiopian politicians. (Note: Please put the full name of your guests in the screen. just like yours 🙂) When are you planning to invite Mr. Jeff Pearce ???
Here is a true friend of ETH! Despite being vilified by the different ethno-nationalist groups & pan-Ethiopians alike, he remains steadfast in his love & respect for ETH (and its cousins!). I am not sure we really deserve his respect at this point in our history. Even our food sucks these days (or is that just me!)
Let's remember, US, UK and other countries never objected to the recognition of Somaliland but looked for another country specially in the continent to do it first. Ethiopia as well wanted to be the second and not first for reasons we all know. But this MoU and recognizing Somaliland is the right thing for Ethiopia to defend and ensure it's fulfilled. Somaliland and Ethiopia, can change the dynamics of the whole region of the horn (Ethiopia, Eritrea, DJibouti, Somaliland and Somalia). It will be first step for a united horn. We want Ethiopia stand up for Somaliland as a BIG brother.
When ignorance talks, it looks like you! The galla oromuma government in power is leading ethiopia and its neighbors to the brink of disaster! Anyways, the gangster abiy will be held accountable for the crimes he committed on our people!
Moges, a great interview. Direct and precise with humour in it that makes both in a relaxed state. I salute Moges as always. Also you look great...keep it up:)
Tibor is denying that USA is not baby sitting TPLF, and ostrasizing the Amhara's. Tibor knows very well that Amhara's wouldn't be as good and loyal servants as most😢 Tigrians who have the experience of servitude to fascist Italy
Let alone the the people of Tigray, the land of Tigray fought the invaders of Ethiopia more than any one, read history of Adwa war which depicts the heroin of Tigray people and leadership on the Adwa war that you claimed to be yours!!!
His excellency has an amazing, indepth and clear knowledge of Ethiopia, a rare thing we see in the foreign analysts in MSM. Hope, he'll be back to his tenure in January.
Ambassador Nash has better idea about the problems and solutions of Ethiopia's internal problemsand the Horn at large than some Ethiopian diasporas thanks moges for inviting the ambassador
Ethiopia is on the right side on this and must not be black mailed. The MoU must be translated to a full fledge comprehensive agreement and not just the two countries that will benefit from this but the whole rrgion, the Horn of Africa. If Ethiopia gives in for the pressure and annuls the agreement with Somaliland, it will be a huge mistake and a missed opportunity. Concluding this agreement is the corner stone and key for a strong successful Ethiopia. If Ethiopia gives in for pressure, then it has chosen to be led instead of leading. It has chosen to be weak and controlled. It has missed the opportunity to be great, listened and respected.
What benefid one port have for ethiopia 😂 its just to put the region in turmoil ethiopa did not talk with egypt about the nile and the united nations becuese it was on its border but the port is all diffrent story they think they can do busnes there in international waters with out international laws😅
Ths explanation of the famouse British divide and rule policy; creating or encouraging divisions among the subjects to prevent alliances that could challenge the sovereign and distributing forces so that they overpower each other. aiding and promoting those who are willing to cooperate with the sovereign. fostering distrust and enmity between local rulers.
Mr Tibor did not know about ethnic federalism is leading to war? And you say no one was thinking or estimating? If so you should have listened from the beginning president Isayas Afeworki
It's a good lesson to the Amhara politicians and the fano fighters, if they have the gut to learn. The Ambassador clearly stated that the American policy makers don't even know that there is such thing as Amhara.
Either all Egyptians live in candy 🍭 land or reality is too bitter to be true! Soon they will come to terms whether they want it or not. I know all Egyptians will criticize and try attack the integrity US Ambassador! Through thick and thin MR. Ambassador always stays to facts not false hope and Stand up for truth! Ethiopians people lucky to have friends like you and will always be grateful!
The Ambassador is exactly right. Fano demands succeed the Amhara. That would be the end result. Amhara fano supporter asking for it. The pm trying to stop that. However, OroAmaras stands with PM. The region called Shewa belongs to OroAmhara.
The Ethiopian ethnic state was fashioned according to the British formula known as Lancaster template. This template was applied to British colonies at Independence. This was the case in Nigeria, Uganda, Kenya. These states suffer ethnic wars. They solved their ethnic conflicts through decentralization, Nigeria from 3 states to 36 states, that is 12 times; Uganda from 45 districts to 135 districts; Kenya from 8 provinces to 47 county. The solution to Ethiopia is to create 68 states, one for each zone, from the existing 14 killil , one zone to one state, and create a presidential system with two senators for each state. Each zone/state is represented by population size in the House of Representatives. We then have a decentralized federal government and a president.
Actually Egypt has to pay for upstream countries for their development to use Nile water. There is a precedence for this from Southern Africa, South Africa paying agreed amount of money annually to Lesotho to use the fresh water originated from Lesotho.
It’s shame Moges that you have to learn from the good Ambassador that Ethiopian’s have a strong negotiation culture that resolve contentious issues amicably. Please don’t underestimate yourself! and your country’s elders wisdom.
How much more of a problem is a problem for you ???...and what is so unique about Ethiopia being ethnically divers? and why is ethnic politics imposed on Ethiopia ? why not Tanzania, why not Kenya, ERITREA or even tiny Djibouti with at least three ethnic groups...? ok, you like the ethnic identity but on what historical or legal ground would you implement ethnic boundary drawn by a minority group from the north?..on what ground should any ethnic group who doesn't agree with the land rationing accept the partitioning ????....but the main question is how long should the experiment last...50 years 100 years...how many more years of destruction ?...when some one tries to cling in to something that has caused decades of pain, then that person must have vested interest !!!
In the USA- you don't see black, white, Spanish, or Asian basketball 🏀 teams or political parties! Why do you think it is good to have a language-based ethnically charged political system in Ethiopia 🇪🇹
However much this guy attempts to whitewash he will be remembered forever as someone who supported war on Tigray that led to the demise of more than a million people and destruction of billions worth of property.
Some one sent me this clip, and it finally confirms what we we've always said about the situation in Somalia..Imagine this individual was Somali's desk at State Dept in Africa. But can you guess the Budapest factor here@@ Even his host seemed hesitant to listen in the part ....
It is an interesting discussion with the one who are reach excperiance on the horn and all over Africa. But I dought the special interst of America/its poleticians on specific matters and ethnic groups due to lobby or bribes. And it is not clear,how the Northern conflict of Ethipia affect the american interst which do not include the in Amhara, Oromo and other places?
I beg to differ from the position of Ambas Tibor on the seemingly genuine dawing of real change in Ethiopia in 2018 and 2019. The Eritrean dictator is anathema to change and Abiye fell under his complete sway and every thing collapsed as a result.
With all due respect to the Ambassador, I challenge his comparison of Switzerland with Ethiopia when it comes to the viability of ethnic politics..as he rightly said being wealthy might indeed help, but the fact that Switzerland has only 4 or so well developed languages and it can practically be implemented, and the non-existence of geopolitical challenge is also a major difference...but I think it is about time we call spade a spade and accepted the fact that ethnic federalism in Ethiopia is an imported geopolitical weapon to destabilize and potentially Balkanize Ethiopia and the region at large..My question is what is so unique about Ethiopia being ethnically divers? and why is ethnic politics imposed on Ethiopia based on languages? Should every language in the world seek to be a country? 200 countries out of Tanzania, 40 out of Kenya, 9 out of ERITREA or even 3 out of tiny Djibouti...? Some people may like the idea of ethnic identity but in the case of Ethiopia on what historical or legal ground would you implement ethnic boundary drawn by a minority group from the north?..on what ground should any ethnic group who doesn't agree with the land rationing accept the partitioning ????...and how long should the experiment last...50 years 100 years...how many more years of destruction ?...when some groups try to cling on to something that has not worked for decades, then it is safe to say vested interest at stake !!!
Insightful conversation with such important deplomat who has deep knowledge of the religion and the points he made are quite important to diffuse any misunderstandings about the current tension in the horn of Africa. I appreciate both the deplomat and presenterer.
Ambassador when it comes to extreme polarization and hatred amongst political parties i think your country is in a more fragile situation than any other country on Earth. Therefore rather than crossing the pond and talk about the unfixable and toxic Ethiopian politics i urge you to look inward and try to find a panacea for your own internal politics. With regard to the hydro politics of the Nile Basin there is a convention that guides trans boundary rivers and all parties must respect and abide to the guidelines. There is no such thing as " Welahi we don't harm you " unbiased binding water sharing agreement is a must and you have to promote this view if you sincerely wish the overall betterment of Ethiopia that you love.
Now we can see that it is the US that gave Abiy a green light to negotiate with Somali land. Very soon we are going to see recognized and independent Somali land.
For the last 30 plus year and held 5 successful elections this is one of the indicator of being sovereign state. When Mogadishu controls only the surrounding areas it’s impossible to stop the Somaliland to do what they want to achieve.
It is not hydropolitics that trubles the horn.rather it is those candidates of external forces in & out.egeptians hier anti govt.forces to distanlize the area.
The Ethiopian government cannot defeat the extreme elements in the country (he intended to mention Fano). The word slipped from his mouth, revealing his deep hatred for the Amhara people (Fano).
What is this guy saying. The US is taking Tigray issue its own to the extent of talking to Tigray officials separately going to Tigray region a number of times. Why is the interviewer missing that?
In Ethiopia we don't have selfless leadership, otherwise, we would have had a true national reconciliation involving everyone and crafting agreed pathways to bring complete peace with understanding that no one will be the only winner.
It’s a huge mistake the IMF approved the loan. No one want to live with Oromo’s the splitting of Ethiopia inevitable. There’s a deep rooted hate and division after TPLF ethnic politics and atrocities now Oromo’s and Amhara and Oromo’s and Tigre’s. The way out is independent state or nations. I don’t think anyone think a world power will have time about a country in remote Africa. Except it’s interest is threatened in the region.
What a hypocrisy on the part of Tibor. He is telling us the right of Ethiopia to have a port, forgetting that USA helped TPLF"s regime to sign off Asab.
Ambassador Tibor, officially the United States, talked only with the Ethiopian Gov. but gave orders and recommendations for Sheni, TPLF, and Fano behind the door.
HE COMES FROM A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT THAT KNOWS INTERNATIONAL LAW AND HE SUPPORTS A SOMALIA CLAN TO ENTER INTO AN INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT,.HE IS ENIMY OF SOMALI PEOPLE
Your ex you very much now eth.& Its people.there is hermony,love & good will to each other.we love every one either west or east muslim or christian.but a response from others is bad.we exect a lot from america & you a lot please.
Ethiopia's ethnic federal system has empowered groups that were historically marginalized under the previous unitary system, giving them political autonomy and a voice in governance. Communities such as the Somali, Oromo, Tigray, Afar, and others have benefited from this arrangement, allowing them to protect their cultural identities and manage their own regional affairs. As a result, the majority of Ethiopians, approximately 90%, now support the federal system, which promotes inclusivity and regional autonomy. However, a small minority, including some in the Amhara community, who traditionally held more centralized power, have been critical of the system. They often dominate media platforms and spread misinformation about the federal structure, despite its widespread popularity across the country. Only around 10% of the population favors a return to the unitary system. A.A.DHUH PhD Jigjiga
Moges accusing why Amhara are becoming nationalists to avert genocide as if they are departing from ethiopia and Ethipianism despite all are nationalists depart from Ethiopia and Ethipianism? Amhara has stood alone to serve and protect Ethiopia and Ethipianism.
Somalia is a sovereign nation along 1960 borders. Such audacity to question where Somali borders are. He has such hatred for Somalia. Ethiopia MOU is illegal period, such hypocrisy. The law has nothing to with your feelings. Remember Ethiopia as an enemy has always been a uniting factor in Somalia. Somalia tried to move on from past animosity but Ethiopia has used Somalia to deflect it internal balkanisation problems. Somaliland has 2/3rd of the tribes supporting unity with Somalia as the face constant arrest and genocide from the Somaliland government. Even Somaliland defence minister resigned due to MOU with Ethiopia as he said Ethiopia government is an enemy to Somali people. Hence Somali people are united just need to get Ethiopia out and get rid of the Federal system that does not support Somali people who are one ethnic group with no difference. We will get rid of these politicians who are foreign agents trying create artificial issues that don't exist.
Let me first thank you for this great interview. Give credit where it is due. You said What they call the Tigray War? Hmm. Mr Teshome, there was no a war known as in Northern Ethiopia. You know it very well that it was by and large a Tigray War. Yes, the war has later expanded to the Amhara and the Afar regions and caused death and destruction in the two Regional States as well. But no where at the scale of the willful and wanton death and destruction perpetuated against the people of Tigray by an array of internal and invited external enemies never known in the history of Ethiopia. The "War in Northern Ethiopia" was a term deliberately coined by the regime and used by regime apologists (like you) to downplay and coverup the incalculable crime (I will not use the term genocide because I know it makes you so nervous) committed against the people of Tigray. You may have a million reason to hate the TPLF. The people of Tigray had been and continued to be the primary victims of the authoritarian rule of the TPLF. But your sentimental hatred and animosity towards the poor people of Tigray is beyond comprehension and hard to fathom. How do you think this country will heal and move forward if you lack an iota of sympathy to your fellow citizens who suffered at the hands brutal (I won't say again genocidal) internal and external forces. I know you will brush aside this comment as submitted by what you love to call them the digital Woyanes. But not all who criticize you are woyane. As long as you continue to add more salt into our wounds, we will continue to respond. . A Luta Continua.
Two main contradicting points from this propagandist. He mentions that nobody cares, nobody knows, no president of the US know anything about Ethiopia, basically you don't matter... and finally in closing he says .... This region is very critical and one of the world's most strategic point in that seem to matter to every big powers of the world sitting at Djibouti and watching every move we make.... He tries to tongue lash the interviewer's idiotic obsession with far fetched word salads like "going for a straw" "broke the camels back" bla bla..... as Ethiopians ego filled vacuous conversation style that leads to nowhere or NO solution. Even Economist magazine said the same thing trying to insult Meles and his weird " arcane " misuse of English words he doesn't understand well. If he slaps this interviewer, am sure he apologizes for not moving away his face quick enough for his glorious hand gestures. Werada banda!😁
INDEPENDENT SOMALILAND is the best thing that can happen to the horn of Africa. We are not like other countries in Africa, Somaliland was a state 1960 june 26th we are within the colony borders.
@daljireali4783 when were those places you mentioned ever independent and within the colony boarders Africa uses as a base? You know Somaliland got its independence 26th June 1960. FACTS.
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" The more pressure you put on Ethiopia, the tougher they get." Tibor Nagy. I love it.
Honest & skillful explanation from Ambassador Tibor nagi; thank you Mogess !
I have a great admiration for the Ambassador as he always speaks his mind with confidence and positivism.
Big Respect and Thanks to HE Amb. Tibor Nagy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Thank you very much, Moges. This was really interesting to listen to the entire talk and to hear the opinion of Amb. Tibor on mentioned issues. Thank you.
Great journalism! Thank you for bringing the ambassador . I am from your home city of diredawa too.
It was a very interesting discussion. I got a lot of serious stuff! It is interesting to hear the experience of a person with such extensive knowledge and diplomatic experience and how he understand the crisis in the East African region. Thank you very much. If the discussion is presented to listeners in Amharic translation, many people can reach Gad.
Moges! It was amazing discussion with your honorable guest who is with real understanding of situations on the ground at East African political landscape. Well done.
10 Q Mogess and Ambassador Tiibor for your great analysis keep it up
Thanks
The truth always sets you free!
Thank you Mr Tibor Nagy for consistently standing by the facts!!!
You don’t play the BS political game!
Good job Moges. Despite i disagree with your political views I apriciate what you are doing regarding the exclusive guests you choose.
very nice dialog , I appreciate Mr Moges having such an international diplomat guy. Indirectly we news the US position regarding to Egypt V Ethiopia and Somalia V Ethiopia. Thank you also Mr Tibor for your truth
Really interesting issues raised ! And I love Ambassador Tibor's expression of Egypt, ' historical arrogance' !! ...Thanks both!
‘’The more pressure you put on Ethiopia the tougher you get’’ well said.
"Things that will be completed in three months in other countries will be completed in three years in Ethiopia." This show how we are polarized as a country.
Feel good interview. The reality of Ethiopia on the ground is clear. And you start fresh conflict with a neighbour. That is the fault line.
Great interview focused on reality not wishes and delusions about the US role in Ethiopia!!
Amaizing ambassador
It was great to have such a distinguished and knowledge guest for your program Moges,keep it up
Ambassador Tibor the most respected & successful diplomat of USA in Africa for his rational and logical views. "The two mosquito 🦟 " 😂 he made my day! Mogos also one of the few genius political analyst, though I have political differences Difficult to deny his capacity. Tari adda saba cima waanqabuf, dhugaati cimti.
Ambassador Tibor Nagy is one of the most genuine human beings ever lived in our time. He is always standing for the truth and integrity. God Bless You ambassador and wish you long life👏
Well done
Thank you Mr.Moges for invited this guy.
Ambassador is one of my favorite foriegners who truely loved Ethiopian. May God give long lifetime. Thanks Mogess as usual inviting this resourcesful person.
Good discussion. Ambassador Tibor Nagy is a better Pro Ethiopian than many ethnically biased tribal selfish Ethiopian politicians. (Note: Please put the full name of your guests in the screen. just like yours 🙂) When are you planning to invite Mr. Jeff Pearce ???
Here is a true friend of ETH! Despite being vilified by the different ethno-nationalist groups & pan-Ethiopians alike, he remains steadfast in his love & respect for ETH (and its cousins!). I am not sure we really deserve his respect at this point in our history. Even our food sucks these days (or is that just me!)
Let's remember, US, UK and other countries never objected to the recognition of Somaliland but looked for another country specially in the continent to do it first. Ethiopia as well wanted to be the second and not first for reasons we all know. But this MoU and recognizing Somaliland is the right thing for Ethiopia to defend and ensure it's fulfilled. Somaliland and Ethiopia, can change the dynamics of the whole region of the horn (Ethiopia, Eritrea, DJibouti, Somaliland and Somalia). It will be first step for a united horn. We want Ethiopia stand up for Somaliland as a BIG brother.
When ignorance talks, it looks like you! The galla oromuma government in power is leading ethiopia and its neighbors to the brink of disaster! Anyways, the gangster abiy will be held accountable for the crimes he committed on our people!
If I were you ,I wold go schools to learn ABC politics ,unless you are graduated from Farmer civil services college of EPDRF.
Critically critically important region but US diplomats doesn’t care or plot…..
Good insightful discussion❤
Moges, a great interview. Direct and precise with humour in it that makes both in a relaxed state. I salute Moges as always. Also you look great...keep it up:)
Tibor is denying that USA is not baby sitting TPLF, and ostrasizing the Amhara's. Tibor knows very well that Amhara's wouldn't be as good and loyal servants as most😢 Tigrians who have the experience of servitude to fascist Italy
Let alone the the people of Tigray, the land of Tigray fought the invaders of Ethiopia more than any one, read history of Adwa war which depicts the heroin of Tigray people and leadership on the Adwa war that you claimed to be yours!!!
As I see it you have no knowlege about your own country Mr fellow countrymen😊
His excellency has an amazing, indepth and clear knowledge of Ethiopia, a rare thing we see in the foreign analysts in MSM. Hope, he'll be back to his tenure in January.
Ambassador Nash has better idea about the problems and solutions of Ethiopia's internal problemsand the Horn at large than some Ethiopian diasporas thanks moges for inviting the ambassador
GREAT DISCUSSION
Ethiopia is on the right side on this and must not be black mailed. The MoU must be translated to a full fledge comprehensive agreement and not just the two countries that will benefit from this but the whole rrgion, the Horn of Africa. If Ethiopia gives in for the pressure and annuls the agreement with Somaliland, it will be a huge mistake and a missed opportunity. Concluding this agreement is the corner stone and key for a strong successful Ethiopia. If Ethiopia gives in for pressure, then it has chosen to be led instead of leading. It has chosen to be weak and controlled. It has missed the opportunity to be great, listened and respected.
What benefid one port have for ethiopia 😂 its just to put the region in turmoil ethiopa did not talk with egypt about the nile and the united nations becuese it was on its border but the port is all diffrent story they think they can do busnes there in international waters with out international laws😅
Ths explanation of the famouse British divide and rule policy; creating or encouraging divisions among the subjects to prevent alliances that could challenge the sovereign and distributing forces so that they overpower each other. aiding and promoting those who are willing to cooperate with the sovereign. fostering distrust and enmity between local rulers.
Interesting interview
Hats off moges
Amb.tibor must get Ethiopian citizenship .
Nice discussion but true US gov is busy on bigger challenges of the world not about our ethnic conflicts
Tibor is one of the genocider and one day history will prevails
Victory to Fano
This man really is not pro Ethiopia, but pro the Ethiopia's genocide against Tigray.
Mr Tibor did not know about ethnic federalism is leading to war? And you say no one was thinking or estimating? If so you should have listened from the beginning president Isayas Afeworki
It's a good lesson to the Amhara politicians and the fano fighters, if they have the gut to learn. The Ambassador clearly stated that the American policy makers don't even know that there is such thing as Amhara.
Egypt has historical arogance !!!
Sounds he is one of the architects of chaos. US underestimated Somalis in the early 1990s as did Abyssinia in 2006. Bring it on!
Either all Egyptians live in candy 🍭 land or reality is too bitter to be true! Soon they will come to terms whether they want it or not. I know all Egyptians will criticize and try attack the integrity US Ambassador! Through thick and thin MR. Ambassador always stays to facts not false hope and Stand up for truth! Ethiopians people lucky to have friends like you and will always be grateful!
The journalist himself has very polarized conception against Tigray
The ambassador knows very well Ethiopian’s than Ethiopian knows themselves.
The Ambassador is exactly right. Fano demands succeed the Amhara. That would be the end result. Amhara fano supporter asking for it. The pm trying to stop that. However, OroAmaras stands with PM. The region called Shewa belongs to OroAmhara.
The Ethiopian ethnic state was fashioned according to the British formula known as Lancaster template. This template was applied to British colonies at Independence. This was the case in Nigeria, Uganda, Kenya. These states suffer ethnic wars. They solved their ethnic conflicts through decentralization, Nigeria from 3 states to 36 states, that is 12 times; Uganda from 45
districts to 135 districts; Kenya from 8 provinces to 47 county. The solution to Ethiopia is to create 68 states, one for each zone, from the existing 14 killil , one zone to one state, and create a presidential system with two senators for each state. Each zone/state is represented by population size in the House of Representatives. We then have a decentralized federal government and a president.
The best impartial media that deserves the name buffetofidea
Actually Egypt has to pay for upstream countries for their development to use Nile water. There is a precedence for this from Southern Africa, South Africa paying agreed amount of money annually to Lesotho to use the fresh water originated from Lesotho.
It’s shame Moges that you have to learn from the good Ambassador that Ethiopian’s have a strong negotiation culture that resolve contentious issues amicably. Please don’t underestimate yourself! and your country’s elders wisdom.
We respect the inherent profound white scholar Man
There is no problem with ethinical federalism in Ethiopia. The problem is lack of implementing it effectively
Idiot comment. Are we going to have 80 presidents or one president who is mixed with all 80 ethnicities?
How much more of a problem is a problem for you ???...and what is so unique about Ethiopia being ethnically divers? and why is ethnic politics imposed on Ethiopia ? why not Tanzania, why not Kenya, ERITREA or even tiny Djibouti with at least three ethnic groups...? ok, you like the ethnic identity but on what historical or legal ground would you implement ethnic boundary drawn by a minority group from the north?..on what ground should any ethnic group who doesn't agree with the land rationing accept the partitioning ????....but the main question is how long should the experiment last...50 years 100 years...how many more years of destruction ?...when some one tries to cling in to something that has caused decades of pain, then that person must have vested interest !!!
No Amharas need independence from ignorant Oromo’s and war monger TPLF.
In the USA- you don't see black, white, Spanish, or Asian basketball 🏀 teams or political parties!
Why do you think it is good to have a language-based ethnically charged political system in Ethiopia 🇪🇹
However much this guy attempts to whitewash he will be remembered forever as someone who supported war on Tigray that led to the demise of more than a million people and destruction of billions worth of property.
Yes, Diaspora is playing Poisoning and Distracting role in Ethiopian crisis
Some one sent me this clip, and it finally confirms what we we've always said about the situation in Somalia..Imagine this individual was Somali's desk at State Dept in Africa. But can you guess the Budapest factor here@@ Even his host seemed hesitant to listen in the part ....
Ambassador was blunt frank on the Egyptian position on the Nile.
It is an interesting discussion with the one who are reach excperiance on the horn and all over Africa. But I dought the special interst of America/its poleticians on specific matters and ethnic groups due to lobby or bribes. And it is not clear,how the Northern conflict of Ethipia affect the american interst which do not include the in Amhara, Oromo and other places?
I hope the authorities in Egypt listen to the person who knows what he is talking about.
I beg to differ from the position of Ambas Tibor on the seemingly genuine dawing of real change in Ethiopia in 2018 and 2019. The Eritrean dictator is anathema to change and Abiye fell under his complete sway and every thing collapsed as a result.
With all due respect to the Ambassador, I challenge his comparison of Switzerland with Ethiopia when it comes to the viability of ethnic politics..as he rightly said being wealthy might indeed help, but the fact that Switzerland has only 4 or so well developed languages and it can practically be implemented, and the non-existence of geopolitical challenge is also a major difference...but I think it is about time we call spade a spade and accepted the fact that ethnic federalism in Ethiopia is an imported geopolitical weapon to destabilize and potentially Balkanize Ethiopia and the region at large..My question is what is so unique about Ethiopia being ethnically divers? and why is ethnic politics imposed on Ethiopia based on languages? Should every language in the world seek to be a country? 200 countries out of Tanzania, 40 out of Kenya, 9 out of ERITREA or even 3 out of tiny Djibouti...?
Some people may like the idea of ethnic identity but in the case of Ethiopia on what historical or legal ground would you implement ethnic boundary drawn by a minority group from the north?..on what ground should any ethnic group who doesn't agree with the land rationing accept the partitioning ????...and how long should the experiment last...50 years 100 years...how many more years of destruction ?...when some groups try to cling on to something that has not worked for decades, then it is safe to say vested interest at stake !!!
Insightful conversation with such important deplomat who has deep knowledge of the religion and the points he made are quite important to diffuse any misunderstandings about the current tension in the horn of Africa. I appreciate both the deplomat and presenterer.
Ambassador when it comes to extreme polarization and hatred amongst political parties i think your country is in a more fragile situation than any other country on Earth. Therefore rather than crossing the pond and talk about the unfixable and toxic Ethiopian politics i urge you to look inward and try to find a panacea for your own internal politics. With regard to the hydro politics of the Nile Basin there is a convention that guides trans boundary rivers and all parties must respect and abide to the guidelines. There is no such thing as " Welahi we don't harm you " unbiased binding water sharing agreement is a must and you have to promote this view if you sincerely wish the overall betterment of Ethiopia that you love.
AMBASANDER, Fano is not in disarray. Fano is in the process of construction. Please take time to judge on Fano.
Now we can see that it is the US that gave Abiy a green light to negotiate with Somali land. Very soon we are going to see recognized and independent Somali land.
For the last 30 plus year and held 5 successful elections this is one of the indicator of being sovereign state. When Mogadishu controls only the surrounding areas it’s impossible to stop the Somaliland to do what they want to achieve.
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It is not hydropolitics that trubles the horn.rather it is those candidates of external forces in & out.egeptians hier anti govt.forces to distanlize the area.
The Ethiopian government cannot defeat the extreme elements in the country (he intended to mention Fano). The word slipped from his mouth, revealing his deep hatred for the Amhara people (Fano).
I am very much disappointed by the host instead of asking counter questions agreed on the all issues.
Isayas told from the get to go federalism dont work in ethiopia while Tibor himself promoting that.
Viva somaliland Ethiopia
What is this guy saying. The US is taking Tigray issue its own to the extent of talking to Tigray officials separately going to Tigray region a number of times. Why is the interviewer missing that?
In Ethiopia we don't have selfless leadership, otherwise, we would have had a true national reconciliation involving everyone and crafting agreed pathways to bring complete peace with understanding that no one will be the only winner.
It’s a huge mistake the IMF approved the loan. No one want to live with Oromo’s the splitting of Ethiopia inevitable.
There’s a deep rooted hate and division after TPLF ethnic politics and atrocities now Oromo’s and Amhara and Oromo’s and Tigre’s. The way out is independent state or nations.
I don’t think anyone think a world power will have time about a country in remote Africa. Except it’s interest is threatened in the region.
What a hypocrisy on the part of Tibor. He is telling us the right of Ethiopia to have a port, forgetting that USA helped TPLF"s regime to sign off Asab.
Ambassador Tibor, officially the United States, talked only with the Ethiopian Gov. but gave orders and recommendations for Sheni, TPLF, and Fano behind the door.
HE COMES FROM A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT THAT KNOWS INTERNATIONAL LAW AND HE SUPPORTS A SOMALIA CLAN TO ENTER INTO AN INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT,.HE IS ENIMY OF SOMALI PEOPLE
Your ex you very much now eth.& Its people.there is hermony,love & good will to each other.we love every one either west or east muslim or christian.but a response from others is bad.we exect a lot from america & you a lot please.
Ethiopia's ethnic federal system has empowered groups that were historically marginalized under the previous unitary system, giving them political autonomy and a voice in governance. Communities such as the Somali, Oromo, Tigray, Afar, and others have benefited from this arrangement, allowing them to protect their cultural identities and manage their own regional affairs. As a result, the majority of Ethiopians,
approximately 90%, now support the federal system, which promotes inclusivity and regional autonomy. However, a small minority, including some in the Amhara community, who traditionally held more centralized power, have been critical of the system. They often dominate media platforms and spread misinformation about the federal structure, despite its widespread popularity across the country.
Only around 10% of the population favors a return to the unitary system.
A.A.DHUH PhD
Jigjiga
You're entitled to your opinion. But, the 90% and 10% comparisons are not facts. If you're a phd as you mention
I hope you understood numbers better.
Independent Amhara state that’s all I want. I prefer to live in peace than living in twenty century fighting about identity. Not interested
Moges accusing why Amhara are becoming nationalists to avert genocide as if they are departing from ethiopia and Ethipianism despite all are nationalists depart from Ethiopia and Ethipianism? Amhara has stood alone to serve and protect Ethiopia and Ethipianism.
Never expect Amhara to be drawn into war with Egypt, while the intention is still mot clear.
That’s right it’s Oromo’s war not Amhara’s. We have sacrificed for centuries where did it get us but Amharas genocide.
Ferenj teritachu sefer taworalchu
I want Amharas to be free from TPLF’s & Oromo’s for preservation of cultural identity and freedom!
Somalia is a sovereign nation along 1960 borders. Such audacity to question where Somali borders are. He has such hatred for Somalia. Ethiopia MOU is illegal period, such hypocrisy. The law has nothing to with your feelings. Remember Ethiopia as an enemy has always been a uniting factor in Somalia. Somalia tried to move on from past animosity but Ethiopia has used Somalia to deflect it internal balkanisation problems. Somaliland has 2/3rd of the tribes supporting unity with Somalia as the face constant arrest and genocide from the Somaliland government. Even Somaliland defence minister resigned due to MOU with Ethiopia as he said Ethiopia government is an enemy to Somali people. Hence Somali people are united just need to get Ethiopia out and get rid of the Federal system that does not support Somali people who are one ethnic group with no difference. We will get rid of these politicians who are foreign agents trying create artificial issues that don't exist.
Spelling error: it is “looming”. Please fix it. “Loo" is a British term for toilet.
Moges talk less, we want to hear your guests buddy.
Let me first thank you for this great interview. Give credit where it is due.
You said What they call the Tigray War? Hmm.
Mr Teshome, there was no a war known as in Northern Ethiopia. You know it very well that it was by and large a Tigray War. Yes, the war has later expanded to the Amhara and the Afar regions and caused death and destruction in the two Regional States as well. But no where at the scale of the willful and wanton death and destruction perpetuated against the people of Tigray by an array of internal and invited external enemies never known in the history of Ethiopia.
The "War in Northern Ethiopia" was a term deliberately coined by the regime and used by regime apologists (like you) to downplay and coverup the incalculable crime (I will not use the term genocide because I know it makes you so nervous) committed against the people of Tigray.
You may have a million reason to hate the TPLF. The people of Tigray had been and continued to be the primary victims of the authoritarian rule of the TPLF. But your sentimental hatred and animosity towards the poor people of Tigray is beyond comprehension and hard to fathom.
How do you think this country will heal and move forward if you lack an iota of sympathy to your fellow citizens who suffered at the hands brutal (I won't say again genocidal) internal and external forces.
I know you will brush aside this comment as submitted by what you love to call them the digital Woyanes. But not all who criticize you are woyane. As long as you continue to add more salt into our wounds, we will continue to respond. .
A Luta Continua.
Eskindir is a poison in the bottle of Fanno.
He’s a true hero
Let the man talk for god sakes
Tibor
Your major mistake was, you though you master Ethiopian current political situation!!!
ህዳጣን ሲሰለጥን በጨረቃ ጃንጥላ ይወጥራል አለ አማራ።
Should I vote for Donald Trump or Kamala Harris?
Two main contradicting points from this propagandist.
He mentions that nobody cares, nobody knows, no president of the US know anything about Ethiopia, basically you don't matter... and finally in closing he says .... This region is very critical and one of the world's most strategic point in that seem to matter to every big powers of the world sitting at Djibouti and watching every move we make....
He tries to tongue lash the interviewer's idiotic obsession with far fetched word salads like "going for a straw" "broke the camels back" bla bla..... as Ethiopians ego filled vacuous conversation style that leads to nowhere or NO solution. Even Economist magazine said the same thing trying to insult Meles and his weird " arcane " misuse of English words he doesn't understand well.
If he slaps this interviewer, am sure he apologizes for not moving away his face quick enough for his glorious hand gestures.
Werada banda!😁
Correct the title
INDEPENDENT SOMALILAND is the best thing that can happen to the horn of Africa. We are not like other countries in Africa, Somaliland was a state 1960 june 26th we are within the colony borders.
Then all nations will have new independent states - NFD, Ogaden, Tigre and Oromoa will be independent states as well.
@daljireali4783 when were those places you mentioned ever independent and within the colony boarders Africa uses as a base? You know Somaliland got its independence 26th June 1960. FACTS.
it was not dark time during the time of Derg.