BlackMagic needs to hire you to make these videos. This was one of the most comprehensive tutorial for constellation. I am thinking about upgrading from atem mini/extreme pro to constellation after running into limitation, and I finally see the merit of the constellation over mini. EDIT: also, showing which sdi output was connected to monitors/recorder was very helpful.
wow awesome answered all my questions in one short video. I run the same system just that I have the SSD version of the hyperdeck so I have an 8 U rack because I need 2 spaces for the 2 hyper decks I also run 8 converters so there are in the unit and I don't run the risk of forgetting them at the office. HAHA been there done that. oh and my Furman has 20 outlets. I realize you can never have to many power sources.
That's a great idea to have the converters in a unit. I've found that a lot of the times we might have the converters on the camera end so I've been hesitant to stick them in cases. We also use them sometimes to convert SDI back to HDMI for projectors and TVs so again in that case it might be tough if they're all rack mounted.
@@zephanmoses Quick question Zephan please, what's the deal with audio, is it just an embedded feed on the SDI? Previously models ATEM there has been analogue in on XLR so have used that to embed the audio.
15:08 You're losing half of your audio level and the benefit of a balanced signal with that adapter. I'd suggest swapping those out for proper XLR to TRS adapters.
You are correct Doug, First of all, NEVER use a solid adaptor, you will be placing adverse torsion on the connector and it's now longer than you want. Take it from me, after 40 years in pure broadcast, you only use a solid adaptor for testing or if you are in a hell of a hurry, just but buy some nice, soft 12 or 24" XLR Balanced Female connectors to TRS 1/4' plugs. You can thank me later.
Hi Zephan! Love this walkthrough! Currently in the process of wanting to buy an extreme iso, just wondering if you would go for the sdi version with converters to hdmi to futureproof + other benefits like long cable runs, or stick with the hdmi extreme iso due to my cameras being natively hdmi!
I got rid of my HDMI model and only use the SDI model now. I don’t regret it one bit. You gain four outputs instead of two, which gives you so much more room for auxiliary outputs, and the ability to send signals to confidence, monitors, and other projectors for larger events.
Hello Zephan, Could it be possible to have two advanced 1 m/e panels connected to one switcher. This way, having two advanced panels controlling the 2 mix effects?
@@movieking1997 there’s not much to make a video about. You just connect two advanced panels to a switch and connect the atem to the switch. Just like in my constellation build. Then you connect the panels to the atem via IP address.
Hi Zephan. How do you run both MEs of the Constellation with the 1 M/E switcher? Do you use one M/E on the Panel and the other on the computer? Or do you use the buttons on the front of the Constellation? Thanks!
The 1ME advanced panel can handle up to 4MEs. There are buttons in the top right corner of the panel to toggle between ME1, ME2, ME3 and ME 4. So once you press the button for the ME you’d like to use, it changes your preview and program rows to match. On the atem software control on the computer there are tabs for the MEs you can switch between.
I have a situation where i need one feed for live, one for projector, and one for all other room such as babysitting and lobby. Which affordable switcher would do the job?
@@tmlianbawi1386 the atem sdi extreme has four outputs so that would work. But if you have to switch multiple shows like different graphics then you need a constellation.
Hi zephan! Thank you for this video. I already have an atem extreme iso and i want to know if it is possible to change the advanced pannel with it and connect the extreme iso to the 2m/e constellation via ethernet cable. It will only be used to change inputs physically. Thank you very much!
No it won’t work like that. The atem mini extreme is its own switcher. It does not act as a control panel for other switchers. The extreme only has buttons for 8 inputs anyways while the 2ME has 20 inputs so that would not work. Consider using a stream deck.
My setup changes around based on each livestream but typically the Magewell is not rack mounted and comes in a pelican case separately so I can always grab and go regardless of the setup.
Hello, is there another way to record, other than through HyperDeck? Studio? I want to start using it but I can't record because I need the HyperDeck Studio and the truth is that it is out of my budget......
If you send a USB feed from the ATEM into a computer, you can record the program feed into OBS straight to your computer. Alternatively, if you are using an external encoder such as my favorite, the Magewell Ultra Encode AIO, you can also record the program feed to SD card or thumb drive in the encoder. Additionally, if you used a site like Restream to send your livestream out to a destination, Restream can also record. But there are no options to record ISO's of each camera input without having a hyperdeck or some alternative recording device tied to each input.
@@osomx464 Yes, please review the tech specs on Blackmagic's website as it clearly states, "USB webcam output" on the specs page: www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/atemconstellation/techspecs/W-APS-40
@@zephanmoses check out Netgear GS116PP. This is what we run in all our racks. We run 8 ptz cameras (Canon CR N-300) and everything in the rack plus the advanced panel.
Create video I really appreciate it. When it comes to recording you're only recording two sources right?.in 1080p. Is there any way to record say 4 - 4K sources. Maybe something cheaper than this. Or is it better just run it In run into 4 capture cards into a computer. Love watching this stuff even if I'm just a regular video shooter.
I would love to see a video about capturing the multi cam clips for interviews.. I mean it's fine with two cameras just recorded on SD card or see CF express and then put them together and postproduction. But like the comment suggests above I'm talking like 4 cameras going into one device recording all into one SSD. Or even a capture card like device with 4 inputs being encoded to take off load from the PC.. Something where the multi-cam clip would just be done .Instead of needing to create it once I was done shooting. It Would be Ready for editing. I don't know.. I just think these things are really cool. I don't need it, but I've thought about a solution like that for a long time..
You’re going to spend a lot more money if you want a 4K switcher and then you’re going to be buying individual recording units for each 4K feed. It’s easier to just record in camera at that point. Most platforms don’t support 4K streaming and even more people don’t own 4K monitors nor is 4K streaming necessary. Some still stream in only 720.
@seanmartinflix I would say if you’re just recording like you mentioned then run all the camera sources back to an ATEM ISO extreme because you’ll have them time coded and matching on an SSD easy with 4 sources easy. Don’t forget to set your ATEM control software up with the right parameters on computer for audio and everything via USBC cable and laptop. Then record SSD from it. Record your ISOs as usual in camera for backup. OR in theory if you have a good monitor like a suped up 4k feelworld just run the cameras to that and make sure that monitor can give you at least 2 clean outputs if your streaming and one to record your final 4K mix. Either way it’s some $ for the right monitor or atem BUT so is 4 capture cards and the headache routing path to mesh it all together if doing budget setups I mentioned. 🤷🏼♀️ 🤔.🎉 Hope that helps. Cheers
@zephanmoses you rock by the way. I’m just a production chick taking a head plunge into livestreaming (we do it but we really have to go bigger and my main streaming contractor is out/gone now) we have to pivot into this asap harder like now so yes…I’m up eating Chinese food binging in bed while mass consuming your channel and others like I do and for some reason answering comments 🤣 Would love to pick your brain or hire for a consult to help me put a kit together 🥵
Hi Zephan. Re AUDIO: you said, the Input at the Constellation is a Mono Jack. Are you sure? Is it not a Stereo Jack? Why doas the Controllsoftware shows L and R for each input???
just because you see a 1/4 phone jack dont immediately thing its mono, to begin with theres two CH1&CH2 you can split them through switcher software, making a discreet two channel record or a Stereo Record, Secondly be aware that those 1/4 jacks are TRS, MEANING BALANCED, Just like a XLR, they are only 1/4" TRS Jacks to save space. Also note, they can be configured +4Dbm Line level in the switcher software if needed,
BlackMagic needs to hire you to make these videos. This was one of the most comprehensive tutorial for constellation. I am thinking about upgrading from atem mini/extreme pro to constellation after running into limitation, and I finally see the merit of the constellation over mini. EDIT: also, showing which sdi output was connected to monitors/recorder was very helpful.
I wish they would hire me 😂
wow awesome answered all my questions in one short video.
I run the same system just that I have the SSD version of the hyperdeck so I have an 8 U rack because I need 2 spaces for the 2 hyper decks
I also run 8 converters so there are in the unit and I don't run the risk of forgetting them at the office. HAHA been there done that.
oh and my Furman has 20 outlets. I realize you can never have to many power sources.
That's a great idea to have the converters in a unit. I've found that a lot of the times we might have the converters on the camera end so I've been hesitant to stick them in cases. We also use them sometimes to convert SDI back to HDMI for projectors and TVs so again in that case it might be tough if they're all rack mounted.
Cool setup. How do you ensure you have a stable Internet connection? What solutions are available to you?
It depends at every venue. I’ll usually do a site visit in advance to test internet. Or I’ll rent a bonding encoder as needed.
Really good review thanks Zephan
Thanks for watching!
@@zephanmoses Quick question Zephan please, what's the deal with audio, is it just an embedded feed on the SDI? Previously models ATEM there has been analogue in on XLR so have used that to embed the audio.
Ah OK, Jack inputs, I see that now doh!
@@johnhodgson166 1/4” inputs. I put a little 1/4 to xlr adapter in there so I can accommodate either/or.
15:08 You're losing half of your audio level and the benefit of a balanced signal with that adapter. I'd suggest swapping those out for proper XLR to TRS adapters.
Thanks for the tip!!
@@zephanmoses That looks like a TRS. Are there two black lines on it?
@@steve01010 this is what I have: bhpho.to/40zGv5a
You are correct Doug, First of all, NEVER use a solid adaptor, you will be placing adverse torsion on the connector and it's now longer than you want. Take it from me, after 40 years in pure broadcast, you only use a solid adaptor for testing or if you are in a hell of a hurry, just but buy some nice, soft 12 or 24" XLR Balanced Female connectors to TRS 1/4' plugs. You can thank me later.
Hi Zephan! Love this walkthrough! Currently in the process of wanting to buy an extreme iso, just wondering if you would go for the sdi version with converters to hdmi to futureproof + other benefits like long cable runs, or stick with the hdmi extreme iso due to my cameras being natively hdmi!
I got rid of my HDMI model and only use the SDI model now. I don’t regret it one bit. You gain four outputs instead of two, which gives you so much more room for auxiliary outputs, and the ability to send signals to confidence, monitors, and other projectors for larger events.
@@zephanmoses thank you so much for the insight!!
Great video thanks for the detailed explanation! 2me constellation running ok? I heard reports of the constellations freezing mid show.
Haven’t had a single issue. I heard more the 4ME having trouble
Hello Zephan,
Could it be possible to have two advanced 1 m/e panels connected to one switcher. This way, having two advanced panels controlling the 2 mix effects?
Yes, we’ve done it plenty.
@@zephanmoses can you make a video please?
@@movieking1997 there’s not much to make a video about. You just connect two advanced panels to a switch and connect the atem to the switch. Just like in my constellation build. Then you connect the panels to the atem via IP address.
Hi Zephan. How do you run both MEs of the Constellation with the 1 M/E switcher? Do you use one M/E on the Panel and the other on the computer? Or do you use the buttons on the front of the Constellation? Thanks!
The 1ME advanced panel can handle up to 4MEs. There are buttons in the top right corner of the panel to toggle between ME1, ME2, ME3 and ME 4. So once you press the button for the ME you’d like to use, it changes your preview and program rows to match.
On the atem software control on the computer there are tabs for the MEs you can switch between.
can you control 2 m/e ATEM Television Studio Pro HD? if not, can cheaper gear can I use to control?
@@tmlianbawi1386 control it with what? I use the 1me advanced panel to control mine.
I have a situation where i need one feed for live, one for projector, and one for all other room such as babysitting and lobby. Which affordable switcher would do the job?
@@tmlianbawi1386 the atem sdi extreme has four outputs so that would work. But if you have to switch multiple shows like different graphics then you need a constellation.
@@zephanmoses i currently have ATEM Television Studio Pro HD. Would it work with that?
@@tmlianbawi1386 possibly. That’s a lot older so I’m not familiar with it. If it has aux outputs then yes you’d use those.
SwitchRes for mac is great and gets rid of the need for a decimator. But don't the constellations have built-in scaling now?
The built in scaling still struggles sometimes.
Hi zephan! Thank you for this video.
I already have an atem extreme iso and i want to know if it is possible to change the advanced pannel with it and connect the extreme iso to the 2m/e constellation via ethernet cable.
It will only be used to change inputs physically.
Thank you very much!
No it won’t work like that. The atem mini extreme is its own switcher. It does not act as a control panel for other switchers. The extreme only has buttons for 8 inputs anyways while the 2ME has 20 inputs so that would not work.
Consider using a stream deck.
Are you using the Magewell when you’re not using your portable set up? Was wondering why it’s not already in the rack?
My setup changes around based on each livestream but typically the Magewell is not rack mounted and comes in a pelican case separately so I can always grab and go regardless of the setup.
What is the name of the video Player that you mentioned Sir?
@@mpagestudios Mitti?
Hey Zephan bro. Should i use a usb c 3.0 cable to get output video from atem mini ? What would be if i use 2.0 cable?
I always use 3 because it’s backwards compatible anyways.
@@zephanmoses Bro will the video quality decrease if i use usb 2.0
@@AsherBJoseph I can’t speak as to what will or what won’t happen if you use the wrong cable. I just always use a USB 3 cable to be safe.
Hello, is there another way to record, other than through HyperDeck?
Studio? I want to start using it but I can't record because I need the HyperDeck
Studio and the truth is that it is out of my budget......
If you send a USB feed from the ATEM into a computer, you can record the program feed into OBS straight to your computer. Alternatively, if you are using an external encoder such as my favorite, the Magewell Ultra Encode AIO, you can also record the program feed to SD card or thumb drive in the encoder. Additionally, if you used a site like Restream to send your livestream out to a destination, Restream can also record. But there are no options to record ISO's of each camera input without having a hyperdeck or some alternative recording device tied to each input.
@@zephanmoses ok but does the atem consteltion 4k have a usb output? or where do I get it from as a USB signal? :(
@@osomx464 Yes, please review the tech specs on Blackmagic's website as it clearly states, "USB webcam output" on the specs page: www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/atemconstellation/techspecs/W-APS-40
@@zephanmosesYes, thank you very much for your time!
We power our advanced panel from the network switch only. No need to plug an iec cable in.
@@cah88 yea I could be doing that but I’m limited on my switch. Probably need to upgrade it soon for more ports and power.
@@zephanmoses check out Netgear GS116PP. This is what we run in all our racks. We run 8 ptz cameras (Canon CR N-300) and everything in the rack plus the advanced panel.
Create video I really appreciate it. When it comes to recording you're only recording two sources right?.in 1080p. Is there any way to record say 4 - 4K sources. Maybe something cheaper than this. Or is it better just run it In run into 4 capture cards into a computer. Love watching this stuff even if I'm just a regular video shooter.
I would love to see a video about capturing the multi cam clips for interviews.. I mean it's fine with two cameras just recorded on SD card or see CF express and then put them together and postproduction. But like the comment suggests above I'm talking like 4 cameras going into one device recording all into one SSD. Or even a capture card like device with 4 inputs being encoded to take off load from the PC.. Something where the multi-cam clip would just be done .Instead of needing to create it once I was done shooting. It Would be Ready for editing. I don't know.. I just think these things are really cool. I don't need it, but I've thought about a solution like that for a long time..
You’re going to spend a lot more money if you want a 4K switcher and then you’re going to be buying individual recording units for each 4K feed. It’s easier to just record in camera at that point. Most platforms don’t support 4K streaming and even more people don’t own 4K monitors nor is 4K streaming necessary. Some still stream in only 720.
Thank you for reply. @@zephanmoses
@seanmartinflix I would say if you’re just recording like you mentioned then run all the camera sources back to an ATEM ISO extreme because you’ll have them time coded and matching on an SSD easy with 4 sources easy. Don’t forget to set your ATEM control software up with the right parameters on computer for audio and everything via USBC cable and laptop. Then record SSD from it. Record your ISOs as usual in camera for backup.
OR in theory if you have a good monitor like a suped up 4k feelworld just run the cameras to that and make sure that monitor can give you at least 2 clean outputs if your streaming and one to record your final 4K mix. Either way it’s some $ for the right monitor or atem BUT so is 4 capture cards and the headache routing path to mesh it all together if doing budget setups I mentioned.
🤷🏼♀️ 🤔.🎉 Hope that helps. Cheers
@zephanmoses you rock by the way. I’m just a production chick taking a head plunge into livestreaming (we do it but we really have to go bigger and my main streaming contractor is out/gone now) we have to pivot into this asap harder like now so yes…I’m up eating Chinese food binging in bed while mass consuming your channel and others like I do and for some reason answering comments 🤣 Would love to pick your brain or hire for a consult to help me put a kit together 🥵
Amazing
Thank you! Cheers!
Hi Zephan. Re AUDIO: you said, the Input at the Constellation is a Mono Jack. Are you sure? Is it not a Stereo Jack? Why doas the Controllsoftware shows L and R for each input???
In the atem software control you can split any of the inputs.
just because you see a 1/4 phone jack dont immediately thing its mono, to begin with theres two CH1&CH2 you can split them through switcher software, making a discreet two channel record or a Stereo Record, Secondly be aware that those 1/4 jacks are TRS, MEANING BALANCED, Just like a XLR, they are only 1/4" TRS Jacks to save space. Also note, they can be configured +4Dbm Line level in the switcher software if needed,