McMillan Tac-50 One of The Best 50 Cal Sniper Videos Ever Made!!!
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- Опубліковано 3 січ 2023
- Brian Lanckiewicz from Columbia War Machine brings you The McMillan TAC-50! The rifle used on the world’s longest confirmed sniper kill! In this video he’s using a 5x25 Schmidt & Bender scope with an Elite Iron direct thread silencer. He’ll be talking about Chris Kyle, The Legend, who’s story is portrayed in The American Sniper, along with his McMillan TAC-338. We finally see the demise of the long eluded Well Fed Bigfoot as well as his last remaining comrade! We shot targets out to almost half mile (steel plates, cinder blocks, ice, and a tree). This video will not disappoint you!
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Putting a silencer on this animal is redundant.
Wouldn't that diminish it's accuracy as well?
I hate guns but this is a work of art.
@@ahmedhussain999 no you just have to zero it in with the silencer on it will hold the same accuracy, sometimes even better
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I'm not sleeping tonight binge watching all your stuff lol!
My favorite sniper rifle. In my opinion, one of the best and underrated guns in history.
Yes I agree , this is my favorite 50 cal sniper rifle for sure ! I have a new sniper video coming out this Wednesday April 19th,Blaser Tac 2 this will be a good one 7pm
I wouldn't call it underrated. Maybe not as "popular" as some other ones but it's pretty well known, at least within the gun community.
What a gentleman. Goes to protect the girl first then worries about the gun after.
Thanks Columbia War Machine. Awesome video. USA!!
Lol, that was some funny shit , thanks for watching , I have a good one next mp 5
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One of the most beautiful high caliber rifles made! Definitely in the top 5
I agree thank you for watching , good ones coming up
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Lmfao the wave and the kick off the shooting bench.
Lol, I thought some people would like that , thanks for the comments, trust me some of my videos coming up are going to be good
Amazing! Beautiful rifle, very accurate! Makes operation easy. It really is the king of sniper rifles. Congratulations on the demo, sharp skills, nice and easy communication. Owning a MacMillan is a Sniper's dream.
Thank you for watching , this was a fun one to make , good videos coming up HK Mp 5 is next Wednesday
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Best 50 video I've ever seen! Keep up the good work👍🏻
Thank you , I really appreciate you watching and your support, I love making these videos, I am giving it my all!
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Great finale! Thanks for the demo on the McMillian Tac 50!
Thank you for watching , I am doing a video on the Blaser Tac 2 sniper rifle this Wednesday 7pm , it will be a good one , I have a really good finale in this one too , check out my newest video ua-cam.com/video/JQTJfbsBStc/v-deo.html
Great shooting! Opening music with the round fired and the ice/snow erupting was amazing! Lots of other epic shots too! Awesome video!!
Thank you , I did not even put a lot of the footage into this video I have ! I think I am going to do another video about what a 50 will go through , penetrate ! I have some good footage already
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AMAZING VIDEO! Best McMillan Tac-50 video ive ever seen !
Thank you , more good ones coming little maggot lol
SUPER COOL, awesome video !!!
This was a fun one to make ! Mp 5 is next
That's a beautiful range! So sick!!
Thank you I am doing McMillan Tac 338 in a few weeks , check out my newest video you will not be disappointed ua-cam.com/video/Ko9eKaim5hQ/v-deo.htmlsi=DZx6oV-nQ33AIKex
Wooooh! That’s amazing!
Thanks it is pretty cool, this one was really fun to do , shooting a cannon basically and hitting targets
Nice one mate....love watching your videos 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you , I have some good ones coming up ! I appreciate you watching
@@columbiawarmachine9795 i always watch and wil be watching👍🏻👍🏻
Another excellent video!!!
I appreciate it , I have a good person helping mr lately
Awesome!
Thank you , this coming Wednesday, is my mp 5 video, it will be one of the best mp5 videos ever made
Another great video!
Thanks , I have a really good one coming out Wednesday
Im really glad you decided to do UA-cam. I hope you get big. 50k subs isn't anything to sneeze at already.
Thanks I am giving it my all , we will let fate decide how far it goes . Thank you for watching, I really appreciate it , I have some good ones coming up
@@columbiawarmachine9795I'll be here as long as you upload. I try to watch ever video as they come out, but I'm late sometimes. I don't know if you're a spiritual man, but I'll pray for your success. Can't wait to hear it.
Beautiful guns I love em you can't get any better then this. Thank you for giving us information while you show the shots to good job brother. 💯💪💪💪💪
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Part 2 cones out this Wednesday march 29th 7pm it will be just as good
I remember going to a shooting range with my dad as a kid. One of the people there had a tac-50. I recall the "pop pop pop" of the other guns in the range was occasionally separated by a loud "BOOM" made by this rifle. The guy let me keep one of the spent shell casings and it sat on my desk in my room until I moved out later on in life. One really bad ass rifle there.
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cant wait to have a range like this , great video as always !
Thank you , it took me 3 years and I am still working on the Viking Kingdom! I have pushed myself to the limits to get what I have , thank you for watching good videos coming up
@@columbiawarmachine9795 you deserve it man, keep up the fantastic work. have a good one!
Thank you likewise, thanks again to for watching
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Awesome weapon beautiful. Thanks for sharing this gun with us.
Thank you for watching , I have some awesome videos coming up this Wednesday 7pm , check out my newest video if you have not seen it yet ua-cam.com/video/9cxoFv5PRXg/v-deo.html
COOL! ....JANUARY 18TH IS MY 73RD BIRTHDAY!
Happy birthday, I have a good video coming out for it ! Thanks for watching
Happy birthday Lary.
Don't give out any other information about yourself on the internet my friend. Protect yourself.
Another awesome video
Thank you for watching, that was a cool video to make
Super cool! 🤘🏻
Thank you , I hope you are good , we will get you out here to shoot soon
@@columbiawarmachine9795 Doing good, thank you! Getting ready to head overseas, will try to get in touch once back 😉
This was awesome 😎!!!! Truly 💪💪
Thank you , see you soon my brother
Thats a nasty round bro! Sheeeesh! Awesome video Brian!
Thanks , hopefully we will hanging soon
Badass. Fine shooting
Thanks , I wish I had another day I would have made it even better ! Thank you for watching , good videos coming up
Awesome video again Mr war machine
Thank you , I have some good ones coming up , thank you for watching
🎯 nice 😁 good job with the video
Thank you , and thanks for watching , I have some good ones coming up
👍🏻best video ever😳
Thank you , it was pretty cool shooting that Bigfoot statue , that thing was tough as hell trying to blow it apart
Don't know if you made it out to shot show this year but the company I used to work for, Dillon Aero, purchased McMillan Manufacturing, started a sister company called Dillon Rifle Company and basically remade the TAC-50 into what is now the Dillon TAC 501. They were at Shot Show this year and had the weapon on display.
No I did not make it there next year I am going , wow that is crazy I did not know that Dillon aero is making sniper rifles now , that’s cool , I have 2 m-134 mini guns , with a lot of Dillion parts
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Yeah that was awesome my friend
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Nice video man, well done
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Damn, why its so satisfying to see the flash and metal bits flying and then hear the ''cling'' like 2 seconds later?
It was a fun one to make , I have a good one coming up Wednesday, Hk mp 5 , this is one of best Mp5 videos ever made
great video !!!
Well fed Bigfoot made it the best lol
So, I needed to know more about how a Tac-50 works/shoot for a story I'm writing. Personally, I can't shoot a gun and I know very basic things about guns (just in general) so learning more about this rifle was actually really neat. Learning that adding a silencer makes the kick noticeably worse was actually really interesting to me (which I know sounds a bit stupid but, again, I have like no knowledge of anything firearm-related that's not bare-bones basic information). Plus, seeing how far this can shoot in a visible format (instead of just reading about it), again, really helped me envision my scenes better.
Definitely will revisit your channel when I, inevitably, need more information on firearms! :)))
Awesome glad to help , I appreciate you watching
Good stuff!
This was a good one
The Mac Millan tac 50 is so underrated can't believe you're the only youtuber that has a great video about it
It is my favorite 50 cal rifle and it looks bad ass too , check out my new video you won’t be disappointed ua-cam.com/video/9cxoFv5PRXg/v-deo.html
thank you!
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my dream gun always wanted one of those thanks a ton for show one in action
Thank you for watching, good videos on the way
Wow very nice 50cal sniper video!!!
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Wowwowwow...love mcmillans..👌
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Great video love those 50cal
Definitely, I am doing another 50 rifle video in a few months about the Styer HS 50
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Thank you for the most excellent video. The 50bmg is an impressive powerful round. I made it to Ohio but I blew up the transaxle in my vehicle so I only made it to Dayton. Maybe next trip I will be able to get to your neck of the woods. Keep up the good work 👍👍👍👍👍.
I will let you shoot some cool stuff if you make it here , thank you for watching , good videos coming up
Thank you for the offer. I should be back up this way in 3 or 4 months.
I lived around Dayton for decades. Sorry to hear you broke down in such a shit hole.
@@joshuagibson2520 LOL my brother lives here. He was in the Air Force. He had a stroke last year. I hadn't seen him in years and I had to come visit him and get some paper work straightened out for his care giver. Gonna fly back home on Sunday.
4th place shout out team columbia war machine
Thanks for watching , next video is going to be good mp 5
very cool
Thank you , this is a bad ass rifle
Nice scope.
Can’t go wrong with a bender , thanks for watching
That Bigfoot got hit HARD with that 50 cal. god rest his soul😀!
It will be great to see Mcmillan Tac 50 vs DXL-5 Havoc long range test!
Now that is something I would love to get into, long range.
It is really awesome when you hit something the size of a plate at 8 football fields away , definitely try it some cool shit , thanks for watching
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Nice looking Gun👍
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I can feel my shoulder popping out of place with that kick back 😂 would definitely still shoot It though. Great video also
I'll massage your shoulder after shooting 😉😝
@@sunnyraes82 let’s go shooting then 😊
It definitely kicks pretty good , I got used to it after about 25 shots , well fed American was hurt after 5 rounds lol
I laid hands on one. Man, I was like a kid at a candy store. Beautiful, accurate and deadly.
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Great shooting with the 50cal
Definitely, I am going to do a whole other video on what 50 cal rifle is the best , ad what they will penetrate
Sweet ! You brother most definitely have way more fun than I do lol
Thank you , it is a lot of work , very little fun , but I do love it
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He was like “Damn, shit my gun” lol
I have a good video coming out tonight Hk mp 5
Very nice shooting, those 50 cals sure have incredible penetration OMG
Thank you , this was a cool video, I have some awesome videos coming up, mp5 is next
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50 cal for 50k subs! Congrats man!
Thank you , on our journey to 100 k , because of good people like you watching my videos, we will do it !
Man, I only recently discovered Cadex 1 month, maybe 2 months ago. And I immediately recognized that chassis by sight.
So much want :p
It is badass , the second I seen it I was definitely getting one , I am getting one in 308 as well , should be here any day ,
Thanks for watching , I have some good videos coming up every Wednesday I out out a new video, 1 week a short , 1 week a full video,
Being bigger just means you're double the badass then he is LOL
It is that way in the animal world , and most of other things !
Chris Kyle also shot the McMillan Tac300 on few of his operations too.
I only new about his tac 338 , that is good to know thank you
Great vid. Too powerful gun. Perfect, just the way i want it...
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Oh shit here we go!
Lol, I have a good one next full video, mp5 this will be a really good video
This was a good video. I liked it so much I saved it.
Awesome thank you , I put slot of time and effort into these videos! I really do appreciate you watching them and all your support, leaving comments! I have some good videos coming up this year I am going to try to push this channel to a whole new level! I will not take for granted the people that help me get there ! Thank you again
besides the 50 cals, do you have any big game rifles? 458 lott or elephant guns?
I have 408 cheytac , 375 cheytac, 338 , those are my other big rounds
Very nice!! Im wondering if this is basically the same as the Cadex Tremor or is it better?
I think a little better, but , you probably would not know the difference, check out my new video, lol ua-cam.com/video/OXCQ38TZQ2M/v-deo.html
Another badass video brother, you have an amazing setup bud. Where abouts are located
Thank you , Ohio
@@columbiawarmachine9795 I'm in Georgia, but if I ever find myself in Ohio I would definitely love to come by
For sure my company for machine gun rental is 76 armory, thanks again for watching , more good videos coming
holy sh*tttt i’ve never seen anything like this before
Thank you little maggot lol
I'd love to see how JMB would react to modern day wares and uses for his 50cal creation.
For sure , thanks for watching , I have a good mp5 video next
@@columbiawarmachine9795 I been subbed for a while, so I'll get my notification for the MP5 video.
I saw in the comments you're in Ohio. I lived in Montgomery County (Dayton) for several decades, but now reside in very rural TN. If your comfortable with it, what county you from?
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Hats off, amazing! The explosions were insane, I laughed so much at Well Fed Bigfoot, more like Ewok, I was surprised those rounds didn’t explode the concrete bigfoot, amazing! The head shot was great, total destruction.
The distance shot on the plates were great, bet they would still go past that twice as much easily. I love the PM2 12-50x56, awesome optics for distance. I have one on my .338 LM, makes life a lot easier.
As always, great vids, the best!
The well fed recoil system made me laugh, maybe market that and copyright it 😂 Sure beats a slip on pad, kick stop reducer etc 🤣😂🤣👍🍻
Thank you , yes this was a nice change up from machine guns , I bet you love the 338 that is probably pound for pound the best sniper round out there
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PJ is going to be famous one day hahaha
He will be a crabby well fed something lol
lots of love from india brother nice video
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GREAT video good sir!! Feel free to send that to Arizona where I'm at! I'd love to put some rounds through it! Let me know when you come out to visit your brother! It'd be awesome to meet ya and do some shooting! 👍👍
I think within the next year , thanks for watching
I wasn’t even aware that a .50 cal could be shoulder fired without a muzzle brake. What would be the estimated recoil energy?
It is doable , but it kicks pretty hard lol, you see in the video, but I got used to it , I have a good video coming out Wednesday, 6 pm Hk mp 5
Damn that thing is a meat tenderizer too, Thanks for this
It is a beast , thank you for watching , my mp 5 video coming up is going to be a good one ! Thank you for all your support, I really do appreciate it
I got to shoot this thing a few weeks ago and let me tell you: It's quiet as hell with the can but you can tell something heavy is flying down range HARD
Lol, for sure this is like a portable cannon
What’s up neighbor. I’ve been saving up to build me a tac-50. Almost have enough for the action. I’m going to chamber mine in .416 when I get done we can have a shootout
That sounds like a fun day , definitely get ahold of me when you are ready
Tac-50 is what you call a sniper rifle...
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What is the recoil like on THE Tac 50 and how does it compare to a 12 GA Shotgun?
With it normal no silencer , about the same , with the silencer, a lot more lol! But it is ok not that bad I shot over 100 rounds in a day and a half ! HK mp 5 video is Wednesday
Second. 50. Cal. Size does matter.
Absolutely, 22 lr will not accomplish the same thing lol, thanks for watching good videos coming up
Were living in advanced times this is unbelievable
Only galactic travel missing just like In movies but things r advanced way way more then I ever thought
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What do you think of a cadex tremor ? I’m liking them a lot .
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@@columbiawarmachine9795 yeah but tac-50 is something special lol. I keep watching this video
Those are the guns the Mexican cartels have attached to the top of their pickup trucks. I never seen one shot before great video man.
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Hehe sniperifle go BANG
Lol, yes it does , definitely has some kick to it as well
Greetings from Cleveland ! Now you made me want a 50 cal 😡
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John McPhee mentioned this rifle. Enough said.
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Wow! 👀 Boinng😳
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@@columbiawarmachine9795 Thanks, I came across yer vid trying to find out what Sniper Rifle James Bond (Novel not Movie) used to shoot over the Berlin wall. Any Ideas?
Wow that is a good question I really don’t know , but now I am curious
@@columbiawarmachine9795 I remember reading it when i was in high school('76?!) may have been a short story rather than a novel, IDK.
@@columbiawarmachine9795 It's in the short story "The Living Daylights" , Bond is sent to Berlin as a counter-sniper with a "mostly experimental" .308 Winchester rifle to take out the KGB sniper who was there to dispach the Defecting agent!
Definitely want to shoot this the next day we shoot!!!!
The one with no silencer lol, the other one might hurt a little
@@columbiawarmachine9795 I can handle the heat😂😂
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@@peyton6466 He might have been real and when he died, all he did was end the suffering for himself. Stop the santa clause stories.
@@burberryducks6481 he exists for me and i believe he died for us but this is an unnecessary spam comment (refering to the payton guy) but also you
Is that McMillan the TAC-50C model?
To be honest, I don’t know it does not say anything on them or paperwork, for either of them , thank you for watching , good videos coming up
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I used this gun in Ghost Recon Breakpoint and this thing was effective
Lol, it is pretty bad ass , I really like the way it looks to , as soon as I seen it I was going to get one
@@columbiawarmachine9795 yeah it's a really good weapon I know a pretty good AR it's the 416 I also use that gun in Ghost Recon Breakpoint
I am doing a video on that soon
@@columbiawarmachine9795 nice I'm looking forward to it
Why is it that whenever I see a really cool video on UA-cam, it's from Columbia War Machine?
Thank you , I do give 100 % effort on these , I want to make the best gun videos of all time , thank you for watching
Who manufactured the chassis?
It is a Cadex , I shoot it in this video as well it is a good one ua-cam.com/video/KCb-gczzWJA/v-deo.htmlsi=ppK6CMpflwJMFvRu
I really like Mark Surbu. It would be awesome if you guys did something together. It would be the Ohio Rambo and the Florida gun nut.
I will try to reach out to him
@Columbia War Machine he has those short mini 50s now, too, I'm not so sure how accurate those are going to be, haha. Hey thanks again for the entertainment man it's great .
Like The Division 2 sniper rifle!
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Schmidt and bender …..enough said !!
Yes , by far my favorite! I also have Night force, Zeiss, and Steiner ,