I believe the military applications are that infantry can carry heavier loads, not limited to supplies, but also assist in carrying a wounded soldier off the battlefield.
I don’t think I would use these for hiking. But as a trainer who trains a lot of older clients I’ve always been curious about using exoskeletons instead of walkers or wheelchairs. Imagine using like this to help get Mobil again and being able to slowly add in more of your own strength as a way of rehab. I think this has a long ways to go for something like that but the prospects are fascinating.
Yes, it is an interesting concept. I have been wanting to get a walking sling that can be wheeled over our treadmill or on the ward while walking down the hall as they are already in use and you can change the weightbearing according to how they are progressing. But incredibly expensive. I imagine exoskeletons to be even more so. LOL I have seen some knee braces with springs which help boost you up/fwd . They are probably a hoax but I have thought about my patients each time I have seen these knee braces since i live in a place with a damn lot of steps and feel sorry for those with knee problems. who also are aging or for various reasons cannot train.
Reminds me of the DNSYS X1, most reviews considered it is noticable change but whether or not it is practical for any serious mobility improvement or aid, a lot less so.
Fascinating. I can see a use for this, but not across the board. Most people who trek or climb do so understanding the growth this requires. However, there are people who have the love of life and maybe not the strength. Maybe will never have the strength. There is a place; it will be abused - which is to say that some people who do mot need it will use it.
I used to hike but an autoimune disease affected my knee an it can no longer support me in strenius activity. It's ok in normal everyday use but not hiking or very long walks so for me this looks like hope. Since nothing can really get my knee back as it was.
May be you could have tried those (apparently you can rent them for 80$)before reaching conclusions…. It is my understanding that these are not knee braces but “just” a support/boost for your progression on long or steep hikes, something elderly people or people with partially debilitating injuries may need.
As long as I can move independently I will be out on the hills under my own steam but there may be a time in the future I would consider tech if it was my best/only option. BUT I don’t want it to connect to the internet!!!
Lol,Arcteryx has fallen down their rocker in the last few years. Their repair department used to be amazing, last time I needed a repair they said they were sending me a patch via mail, not even doing the fix or sending a new one c per their warranty ... I never even got the patch 😅😂.
@@ChaseMountains it sure sounds like it. They used to be so good warranty wise, nowadays I shop around before just buying Arcteryx, not buying peace of mind anymore :(.
@@salttrader4113 any company that starts as an outdoors brand, finds success with a cult following, then they start making streetwear, realize they can make 3x more, then throw away the whole company by leaning into streetwear only
I follow you for quite some time and I would prefer to work on my body than use external support (my knee is coming back so I clearly need to refocus on knee training). Saying that - this could be a choice for me after longer stay in bed due to illness or breaking a leg bone.
Unless the structure goes down below the feet and then attaches to any load on the hiker’s back (in order to effectively carry the weight for the hiker), I don’t see how this (whatever it actually is-looks like nothing more than a battery powered motorized knee brace) could possibly offer more than negligible benefits when it comes to “weight.”
People in the US army always come out banged up, and it’s super common. My friend is in and not even 30 but his whole body is fucked up from the training where he’s at.
Any exoskeleton type brace should be integrated INside the trouser bottoms so you cant see it from the outside like shown in this video. Or a knee brace thin enough to be worn under trousers.
E-bikes have had a impact on mountain biking that in my opinion has been mostly negative, with conflicts between speed, capability and capacity on the MTB trails. The number of inexperienced e-bikers having serious accidents on my local and very modest MTB trail is shocking. E-hiking may result in a lot of inexperienced people on the trail and has the potential to be detrimental overall. On the flip side, if your an experienced, injured or aging hiker, this tech could extend your hiking career.
TBH, if I were a person that had a life changing knee injury that changed my biomechanics completely, or a destroyed joint or you know..a dramatic event... maybe I would think about it. But for EVERYONE ELSE, LEARN to use your body, become aware of your body, how to use it properly, how it should work- get healthy: be a healthy weight, use your cardiovascular system as it is made to be used, get flexible, get strong and create FUNCTIONAL muscles. I hate quick fixes or anything that makes you dependent on it. The human body is capable of so much more than the majority of the population of the world use it for- basically the same as everyone having an iphone and only using it to text once a day or take a crappy pic haha.
That's funny one. I push 450 kilo in the leg press, wonder how much force this thingie produces and how it's distributed, because knees aint the place where a whole walking thing happens.
Cool, now get scrambling for let’s say 30 kilometers with 3000m descents and tell me how your knees are doing after a while. Militaries around the world must be wrong trying to save knees.
@@BlueScreenOfDeathPLjust did that. 8000 vertical and 130 km in 4 days. Flex elsewhere. Military wears out men, that's why first metric of useful human being in any military is fat percentage. Because militaries already carry 40 kilo at least. Do you carry 40 kilo on your epic scamble?
As a transhumanist, its always interesting watching the views on tech like this from a "normal" persons perspective. the talk about "no one wants to look like a cyborg freak", meanwhile im sitting here waiting for prosthetic limbs to get even 10% better than the peak of human potential before i have a "terrible accident" with a chain saw and get my dope ass cybernetic legs. "From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind cling to your flesh as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved. For the Machine is Immortal" https: //youtu. be/9gIMZ0WyY88?si=GX0vQZbEdmp7d9oz
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For this price you have to be really into cosplay (massive respect btw!)
I believe the military applications are that infantry can carry heavier loads, not limited to supplies, but also assist in carrying a wounded soldier off the battlefield.
I don’t think I would use these for hiking. But as a trainer who trains a lot of older clients I’ve always been curious about using exoskeletons instead of walkers or wheelchairs. Imagine using like this to help get Mobil again and being able to slowly add in more of your own strength as a way of rehab. I think this has a long ways to go for something like that but the prospects are fascinating.
great perspective
Yes, it is an interesting concept. I have been wanting to get a walking sling that can be wheeled over our treadmill or on the ward while walking down the hall as they are already in use and you can change the weightbearing according to how they are progressing. But incredibly expensive. I imagine exoskeletons to be even more so. LOL
I have seen some knee braces with springs which help boost you up/fwd . They are probably a hoax but I have thought about my patients each time I have seen these knee braces since i live in a place with a damn lot of steps and feel sorry for those with knee problems. who also are aging or for various reasons cannot train.
So much good information here. Solid and fair review. Great high level biomechanic consideration.
This might be a good product for someone with chronic knee pain from an old injury, helping them get out more and move.
Anything to stop this lateral knee pain. I would use it if it works.
@@Justshredman have you seen my video on that?
Reminds me of the DNSYS X1, most reviews considered it is noticable change but whether or not it is practical for any serious mobility improvement or aid, a lot less so.
Fascinating. I can see a use for this, but not across the board. Most people who trek or climb do so understanding the growth this requires. However, there are people who have the love of life and maybe not the strength. Maybe will never have the strength. There is a place; it will be abused - which is to say that some people who do mot need it will use it.
... using an exo-skeleton is counter productive for the body. But if you have to ... well, you have to.
Military uses for exoskeletons are to increase the weight that soldiers can carry with them and probably the speed they can carry it at.
@@kevinworkman4755 ok thanks yeah that makes sense
I had to check the calendar to make sure it wasn't April.
How do you launder those pants?
The prototypes will be too heavy and won’t work very well but eventually these will be amazing
I used to hike but an autoimune disease affected my knee an it can no longer support me in strenius activity. It's ok in normal everyday use but not hiking or very long walks so for me this looks like hope. Since nothing can really get my knee back as it was.
May be you could have tried those (apparently you can rent them for 80$)before reaching conclusions…. It is my understanding that these are not knee braces but “just” a support/boost for your progression on long or steep hikes, something elderly people or people with partially debilitating injuries may need.
As long as I can move independently I will be out on the hills under my own steam but there may be a time in the future I would consider tech if it was my best/only option. BUT I don’t want it to connect to the internet!!!
Would you use these? Let me know your thoughts below 👇
Lol,Arcteryx has fallen down their rocker in the last few years.
Their repair department used to be amazing, last time I needed a repair they said they were sending me a patch via mail, not even doing the fix or sending a new one c per their warranty ... I never even got the patch 😅😂.
@@salttrader4113 too busy doing other stuff 😅
@@ChaseMountains it sure sounds like it.
They used to be so good warranty wise, nowadays I shop around before just buying Arcteryx, not buying peace of mind anymore :(.
@@salttrader4113Streetwear must be profitable enough to focus and it happens to all major manufacturers (look how they massacred Canada goose).
@@salttrader4113 any company that starts as an outdoors brand, finds success with a cult following, then they start making streetwear, realize they can make 3x more, then throw away the whole company by leaning into streetwear only
I follow you for quite some time and I would prefer to work on my body than use external support (my knee is coming back so I clearly need to refocus on knee training). Saying that - this could be a choice for me after longer stay in bed due to illness or breaking a leg bone.
Unless the structure goes down below the feet and then attaches to any load on the hiker’s back (in order to effectively carry the weight for the hiker), I don’t see how this (whatever it actually is-looks like nothing more than a battery powered motorized knee brace) could possibly offer more than negligible benefits when it comes to “weight.”
People in the US army always come out banged up, and it’s super common. My friend is in and not even 30 but his whole body is fucked up from the training where he’s at.
That's perfect for Night hiking, The Bed and at the dance floor common 🎉
What's that knee pain video you show at the start? I can't find it on your channel
probably need to buy one of Chase's workout programmes?
@@ChrisJeffrey117 im not sure which one you are referring to. One of those thumbnails I used is for next weeks video tho so it might be that.
@@ChaseMountains No worries, I found it. It was your video about IT band syndrome
I'd use these when I'm a knee briated.
Any exoskeleton type brace should be integrated INside the trouser bottoms so you cant see it from the outside like shown in this video. Or a knee brace thin enough to be worn under trousers.
Better to do the functional training Chase recommends than to depend on cyborg help when hiking!
E-bikes have had a impact on mountain biking that in my opinion has been mostly negative, with conflicts between speed, capability and capacity on the MTB trails. The number of inexperienced e-bikers having serious accidents on my local and very modest MTB trail is shocking. E-hiking may result in a lot of inexperienced people on the trail and has the potential to be detrimental overall. On the flip side, if your an experienced, injured or aging hiker, this tech could extend your hiking career.
I don't think he understands how AI in a pair of pants is going to work. I'm sure it isn't going to be connected to the cloud.
TBH, if I were a person that had a life changing knee injury that changed my biomechanics completely, or a destroyed joint or you know..a dramatic event... maybe I would think about it. But for EVERYONE ELSE, LEARN to use your body, become aware of your body, how to use it properly, how it should work- get healthy: be a healthy weight, use your cardiovascular system as it is made to be used, get flexible, get strong and create FUNCTIONAL muscles. I hate quick fixes or anything that makes you dependent on it. The human body is capable of so much more than the majority of the population of the world use it for- basically the same as everyone having an iphone and only using it to text once a day or take a crappy pic haha.
This will help people with paratrooper knees
That's funny one. I push 450 kilo in the leg press, wonder how much force this thingie produces and how it's distributed, because knees aint the place where a whole walking thing happens.
" knees aint the place where a whole walking thing happens." Im sorry what??
Cool, now get scrambling for let’s say 30 kilometers with 3000m descents and tell me how your knees are doing after a while. Militaries around the world must be wrong trying to save knees.
@@BlueScreenOfDeathPLjust did that. 8000 vertical and 130 km in 4 days. Flex elsewhere. Military wears out men, that's why first metric of useful human being in any military is fat percentage. Because militaries already carry 40 kilo at least. Do you carry 40 kilo on your epic scamble?
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@@memathews lol thank you!
As a transhumanist, its always interesting watching the views on tech like this from a "normal" persons perspective. the talk about "no one wants to look like a cyborg freak", meanwhile im sitting here waiting for prosthetic limbs to get even 10% better than the peak of human potential before i have a "terrible accident" with a chain saw and get my dope ass cybernetic legs.
"From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind cling to your flesh as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved. For the Machine is Immortal"
https: //youtu. be/9gIMZ0WyY88?si=GX0vQZbEdmp7d9oz