Just saw this - some 6 years later. Brilliant! What the people talking about a few cents either way don't seem to grasp is that music is not a single note, it is the resonance of harmonics. Shape of the room, even the moisture in the air can subtlety alter this. Let's tune the room, not the minutia! Go Rick!
ZeroFunctional I felt I needed some other opinions. Haha! Only Dylan knew what I was talking about. He really is an expert because he can hear the difference.
This is the best video I’ve ever seen on A 432 versus A 440 comparison! I especially like the way that the experts weighed in right at the end. Brilliant Rick!
Mr. Quail, are you out there? I'm a music theorist, and I've tried twice to relay a statement to you but each time, my very words were simplly, and somehow made to be gone. I"m trying make by wording more ambiguous in hopes of by-passing the you-know-what.
I absolutely love everything about how my guitar sounds and FEELS/RESPONDS; even through the amp, when tuned to my preferred Ab/Drop Db = 432Hz. However, considering nearly every piece of recorded music that i grew up listening to; and still do, was recorded using A = 440Hz(or some variation of it), so learning/jamming along with pre-recorded music or friends, is impractical. But my love of 432Hz has nothing to do with any mystical, cosmic, or devine theories. I can only say that when my guitar is tuned to Ab/Db = 432Hz, it just sounds, feels, and responds in a much more "relaxed" way. Not so tense/intense. If that makes any sense.
I like half step flat alot on my classical because it's mellowed out and more rich sounding. I am also going to try A 432 and half step flat from there. I wonder if the strings will sound floppy. . .
432 is much more mathematically clean. 3 x 12 x 12 = 432. Generally, when I'm modding games, I like multiples of 12, because 12 is in common with both base 3 and base 2 and has crossovers with base 8. Idk, I just like base 12. It's a really nice number. In music, it probably doesn't matter. Most people don't even appreciate the instrumentation of a song, let alone are able to hear a 1.8% difference in pitch.
@@manictigerinteresting! Western music is divided into 12 notes. So is time, clocks and calendars. And we used to use the imperial measurement system 12inch = 1ft etc
I've listened to comparisons of the two (432 and 440), and for some reason the 432 does sound more calm and relaxing to me. I think it might just be because it's a slightly lower tone, thus sounds more mellow when set beside a 440 sample. Throughout school, I was a trumpet player, and we always tuned *A* to 440. We had a tuning machine that you would stand in front of and play an A, and it had little dials on it that would "freeze" when the note was just right - very much like the record player strobe light tuner on a turntable. In fact, it was the same color. But when put side by side, I do like the 432 better - again, I think, because it's just a slightly lower tone giving it a more "bass" sound.
I think it's because it's a natural set of frequencies when you can equally divide 12 from 432 (36). But when you do 440/12, it's an uneven calculation. I'd love to get my hands on an old flute that is actually tuned to 432. Some European orchestras actually do have recordings of Haydn & other classical symphonies on period instruments in 432 or 435 tuning.
@@rlopezflute I know there were so many thousand musicians who were trying to oppose a 440. I seem to remember middle C being tune to a 432 through the 80s. Then, it seem to me that C was changing into C sharp. Little by little by little, Noticed a 440 becoming more and more prevalent.
@@missyhilary8905 @Missy and Hilary Sisters it's weird, some orchestras here in the US even tune to 441. My piccolo & alto flutes are tuned to 442 because they were made in Germany & Japan, which tune their instruments higher. I have to pull the headjoints out more in ensemble, but not as much when I'm playing alone. I kind of prefer 442 to 440 because the airs comes out a little easier.
It's exactly that, sounds warmer because it is lower. If you'll compare A 432 with for example A 420 - then A 420 will be warmer... And we can go on like this. No magic here :)
432 is so much easier and natural for me to sing to , also 432 is very calming , I put it on before bed and during work commute traffic and within minutes I am calm relaxed and happy
I like to approximate 432 on acoustic guitar for a few reasons, mainly string tension on "long scale"(25.5") instruments. Tuning down a full half-step seems just a bit too flat, 432 just seems warmer to my ears...
@@ThePhreakass Maybe what you call tone deaf is actually the better music but we've listened to 440 for so long we think it's vice versa. Just a thought, no use in acting like we have all the answers because the world would be perfect if we did. If you don't like 432 hz that's fine but there's no use in being evangelical about something we only know on the surface level.
Sexagesimal second have 6.000 years. To discuss the seconds and the measurement of time and space based on the rounded seconds for the Hertz, before, we need to understand the sexagesimais origins of the second. Each turn of the clock has 43,200 slices, or seconds. And the number 60 is not a random choice. 60 is the smallest number with the largest number of connections: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, 30 and 60. We don't invent mathematics, we just discover the relationships between the quantities, and give them names. That's why I reaffirm that to understand the relationship between the number 432 and the sexagesimal mandala of 60, we need to understand its origins in mathematics, geometry and cosmology.
Good Morning. You are out of context, my friend... The 12 hour time has nothing to do with the sexagesimal degree nor hertz. The sexagesimal degree is one sixth of a semitone, but one semitone is different from another in hertz. You are confused, the dashboard of an analog clock is based on the Margarita Chart, and the Absolute Harmonic Circle is also based on the Margarita Chart... But hertz has nothing to do with cartography...!!! The XOANS Theorem offers more than a hundred axioms that support it. And one of them is: - "The INDIGO vibrates in A440" . Demonstrative argument: The spectrum or decomposition of the SUNLIGHT has seven colors, and each one responds with an absolute vibratory affinity. The Pacific Blue is an energy whose photons vibrate and move in an AS and a SOUND. And that SOUND is immutable and eternal, always in 440 Hz. Pythagoras did not know about Hertz, but he did effectively handle the TONE very well in the context of Greek music. Therefore, A is an immutable Natural Tonality, since it is the vibratory affinity of the AS of PACIFIC BLUE photons in the Solar Spectrum
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@ToniMazzotti, Buenos Días. Sexagesimal seconds are those that are divided into six degrees, because the system consists of dividing the circumference into 360°. This is not random. A semitone is a distance in hertz, but the hertzian proportion is different in musical Octaves. Therefore, the musical semitone cannot be divided into cents. One thing is the cent and another is the sexagesimal degree. The Cent, when the circumference is divided into submultiples of 100 and this is called the Centesimal System. In Music, the Harmonic Circle is based on the "Margarita" Chart, where the "Sexagesimal" System is applied, which divides the circle into 360°, that is, 60 minutes of 6° each, which shows us that each semitone has a second = 6 sexagesimal degrees. - Greetings.
Rick, I love your videos and I was wondering if you could make a video explaining George Russell's lydian chromatic concept and its application in jazz composition. Thank you.
I agree with Lennon. I moved to 432 Hz just because it seems a little richer in tone and seems to make slight intonation problems less noticeable. It's no big deal to me because all my gigs are solo. I keep a Strat tuned to 440 Hz, just in case you want to jam.
that is not a good idea unless you are using a toy piano. you should play slayer on two pianos, one for each hand and each foot and tune them to A 333 hz
Dear sir, this standardization issue is a bit of a "red herring" in that it supposes that the frequency that A is mapped to is really important, but as you point out for centuries (perhaps millennia) to exactly map a master tuning frequency to 440 Hz would have been impossible without modern science. So how did they tune at all? For guitarists this an important point and leads us to the 6th, and the difference between natural tuning and equal temperament and Das wohltemperierte Klavier (The well-tempered Clavier) by Bach and the differences in the fractions that make up Natural tuning (for instance tuning a guitar or piano to an open chord such as G Major or E Major versus Standard tuning. When tuned to the single Major Chord, as one goes around the Circle of Fifths, the 6ths begin to detune due to the fractions used in relation to the key center. Meanwhile in Standard or Equal Temperament, the division between half-steps is constant, and thus as one goes around the Circle of Fifths (no matter what key one is in), the "out-of-tuneness" is spread across all semitones as opposed to being solely centered on the 6th. If I am not mistaken, this also is the source of differences in notation on enharmonic notes, and the use of sharps when ascending and flats when descending for historical purposes. And finally, it took the three strings of a harpsichord or piano to really center in on equal temperament. Electronically, due to the fact that sine waves produced by electricity do not have inherent overtone artifacts unless they are deliberately designed in, we can have any mapping we desire, but it won't sound "as real" until the proper odd and even harmonics are added. Just my two cents. Great video
Even if water reacts differently to 432 hz, tuning music down to that frequency will only effect water (or anything else) when that particular octave of A is played. Music changes chords, pitch, and tones constantly. Unless the entire song is just one long A note, it's not really going to realign your chakra or whatever.
432 is much better for meditation music and songwriting, I used to be sceptical but I have done a LOT of comparison and I don't think it's just a placebo and there could have been a conspiracy. I think Rick is being a bit glib with his dismissal here.
@ please go listen to some Pythagorean tuned music, and I don't mean the ambient music, I mean music with somewhat complex harmony, it sounds like utter crap, no music where the ratio of the major third is 81/64 will sound good
Very good thank you !! I learned a bit about this subject playing with a french accordianist that had an old accordian instrument tuned in this way, A =435; You surely put more light on the subject with a few things i didn't know. Thank you Rick for the cool vids!!
I heard years ago that 440a was made so we would be forced into a more discordant type vibration overall concerning the music. Just something I'd heard in past, kind of like fluoride and other things people claim were introduced to not help us. I'm sure others have heard the same thing. Rick I dig your videos, all of them! 🎸
We have the Rockefellers to thank for enforcing 440 Hz as standard. They also gave us the brutal American public school system and helped fund the rise of the Third Reich. Go figure.
I have a theory on these 2 tuning systems. I think if our tuning system had been in 432, the world would be a better place... it's a fascinating "what-if" thought that i often have, although it's impossible. It's still fun to hear comparisons. There's something different about 432 tuning that draws you in. And this is coming from someone who has perfect pitch in 440. It's taken a while to get used to 432.
One day has 86400 seconds... 432/864... That´s in line / sync with everything - the whole cosmos. That is why sensitive people feel that. But in our dumbed down society it´s all just nuts... Mankind is ignorant like...
@@vectragt2310oh wow, I didn't know about the seconds of rhe day. I do know that 432/12 = 36, but what is interesting is 440/12 =36.666 🧐 No wonder so many musicians have anxiety &/or are depressed! And that includes myself. If we're constantly exposed to unequal frequencies, it's doing something to us physically & emotionally. I wish more research was done on this.
@@rlopezflute 432/8 = physical 432/9 = spiritual / Ether side And yes, 440 was put in place on purpose... Also, no further investigation needs to be done if people learn to follow their intuiton and heart/earth.
@@vectragt2310 One day has 85.984,091 seconds, we just rounded it down to 24 hours. Also, a day is not the same in the whole cosmos, only our Earth day is roughly 24 hours. Stop trying to be smart as if 432Hz is in tune with the universe or something, it isn't even in tune by your own standards.
@@Therod911 Well, then I made an incorrect statement. In line with earth and its frequency, as we ARE ON EARTH. And with 440 you are out of sync and it is not coincidence this became western standard. There won´t be a direct effect from listening to 432, but over time when it would be all over the radio, etc. DNA and concioussness would change. As you surely know DNA is dynamic. So stop trying to tell bs...
The 19th-Century composer Giuseppe Verdi reportedly liked 432-Hz tuning because his opera singers’ voices lasted a lot longer. Nothing mystical about that. 1/3 of 1/2 of a step lower than 440 Hz seems barely noticeable to the average ear, but I guess that somebody who pushes their vocal ability to its limits for a good length of time would consider it a gift. 👂🏼🎹
A = 432 Hz resonates with Schuman Resonance of the earth, which is Earth's heartbeat at 8 Hz. In the scale the C note lands on 8 Hz in the lowest octave. So the idea is it's supposed to be at a natural flowing vibration with the universe.
I think all of this goes out the window once you start dealing with vocals. A persons vocal range is determined by the shape of their body. When I decide to do a cover song I do it in what ever key works for my voice. So it really doesn't matter what my guitar is tuned to.
I like your videos (even though they often go over my head and make me cry like an infant at my own ineptitude, leaving me wanting to: 432 part quit to 440 part get on my instrument). This was so informative and cheeky at the same time. It made a potentially dry subject fun to watch. This has been my favorite so far!
Western music in equal temperament uses 12 different frequencies, only one of which is a multiple of the frequency of A : the A itself. A piece in Eb major tuned at 432Hz will contain no A at all, so no instance of a note vibrating at that 432Hz frequency. This should be enough to debunk the 432 Hz bullshit.
I like to play Mozart and Beethoven (and Bach, I guess) at a semitone lower than today's concert pitch, and Chopin a semitone higher. BUT there's more to it than that: it's of more importance to use a non-equal tuning, so the different chords have different sounds from each other. I love the way even my Yamaha digital piano comes to life by using Werckmeister - with the C chords sounding so different from the Bs, the Gs sounding so different from the Aflats etc A semitone up or down either way doesn't really make that much difference to many people.
Notes A3=216Hz (-31.77 cents) and G#3=204Hz (-30.7 cents),, just lay completely natural to my voice.. The ~ 30 cents lift from ~432Hz to 440Hz for A4 is not natural for my voice... MY voice relaxed resonance is around the tuning of A4 at 432Hz.. Singing high notes comes very natural when the guitar is tunes at 432Hz vs 440Hz.. The passaggio is shifted too high at 440Hz Infact the highest pitch for my voice if I lay of a lot of weight (early transition) is ~438Hz (~8 cents). A4=440Hz is very difficult to find the balance in the throat.. In my world 440Hz excludes a lot of voices in music.. The previous european pitch at 435Hz is a better comprimise between a high (445Hz) and low pitch (425Hz). A4=424-425Hz would be close to Mozats and Händels pitch as they used a forks at A4=421.6 and 422.5Hz but they were probably using a more "pure" tuning system like meantone or just intonation which was much more common which sets the A (major six. or La) note flatter relative to 12-TET in the C major scale. I think it was a piano tuning company from late 1800s that had their pianos tuned in Meantone at 433.5Hz for A4 and with 12-TET is was A4=436Hz. A difference of ~10 cents. A tenor hitting the high notes to Händels halleluja to a piano tuned to 425Hz would be easy, nice and full.. At modern A4=442-443Hz which many like to tune their classical instruments at .. The tenor sounds bad... It is only the spinto tenors (very few individuals) that would sing the high part with ease... We got it all wrong,, The previous pitch at 435Hz is as high the note of A4 should have gone to get the right classical division of fachs.. This is a fact...440Hz is a very "unnatural" singing pitch if I may use that word.
dansk björn 440 is unnatural to your body, and it is to mine as well - but my body is more comfortable around 450. The tiny bit of extra sharpness really helps me maintain consitant intonation. Conversely, I have an old bass trumpet that doesn't tune any higher than 430 - and I prefer to play it around 425. Every body and every instrument is different, and you gotta do what works best for you and for your equipment!
424-425/449-450hz as a nice spot i completely can relate to. it is another nice area together with the 432/457hz area. what is your vocal fach when singing.. the weirdest pitch area for my voice is 439-445hz. not low enough and not high enough
440hz throws off our vibration and disconnects us from source. Hence why they made it the standard in 1932. Just another example of how everything in life today is backwards from how it was meant to be.
I had never heard of 432 vs 440 until somebody I hardly knew randomly sent me a video addressing it a year ago. It was an interesting video. A little bit new agey but interesting enough that I decided to try it. Lo and behold when I started singing it did seem like some ethereal static that I had subconsciously always fought against had been removed! Last month I did my first gig in a while and definitely asked the band to all tune at 432 Hz. Of course my mind was occupied with all the details of doing a show so I really forgot completely all about the fact that we had tuned down at 432. No question for the whole night I was kind of marveling over the way my vocals sat so comfortably on top of the mix!? That doesn’t happen a lot. Also the instruments were never fighting against each other. Each instrument seemed to have comfortable space. And we were not too loud. We were not un-loud But we were not too loud. I could see people still able to converse with each other even though we were playing at a decent volume. It was a few days before it occurred to me that it might’ve had something to do with us performing at 432HZ. I know there’s lots of snarkiness and mockers and scoffers around this idea. Lol… And may be 440 is/was more appropriate for our beloved rock ‘n’ roll era that was aggressive and harsh from the get-go. But as for me I love playing and singing at 432. My two cents! Great UA-cam channel Rick thank you!
Interesting post. I find that 440Hz- 442Hz makes the notes in the 12-TET scale sit rather high in resonance in the throat.. Move pitch down to 432Hz and most notes just seem to hover at my voices relaxed state.. And singing high in my upper middle register C4 to E4 becomes much more comftable.. In fact the passaggio E4 might be the most tricky note for my voice.. Move pitch down to 431Hz that E4 becomes so much easier to find the balance..
It sounds like your voice benefits from a lower tuning. But my guess is that it's not necessarily A=432. The same relaxation would probably come from tuning to A=434 or A=431. If it works for you though, go with it.
@@esterhammerfic I tried with many tunings.. I tried A4=430Hz and I find it a little too low when I hit my lower chest register.. The sweet-spot for my voice is around 434Hz..
I was recently getting sucked into this rabbit hole, so I appreciate the dose of facts! There are too many variables in the physical universe to be trying to find the resonance of reality or whatnot, lol!
I tried out the 432hz tuning on my guitar, and well at first I noticed a difference, once my ear became use to it, it started sounding normal. then tuning back with 440hz it sounded out, but soon after it sounded normal. it was a little like playing a song using flats, it sounds weird at first, but also somewhat more mellow and relaxing, but depending on the notes, it can also sound silent hill creepyish.
Thats because it doesn't matter what frequency you start A as. In 12 tone equal temperament tuning, its all whole ratios anyways. We have A=440 today because of a centuries long loudness war. The higher A (with the same music piece) the louder/brighter it sounds, the lower the A the warmer, softer it sounds. Louder == Better. A has been anywhere between 380hz and 500hz depending on the era, composer, instrument, people, etc. We have old tuning forks for pretty much everything in between too. 440 was just chosen because its good enough, 'loud' but still manageable by traditional string instruments without breaking stuff. The war continued when compression was invented. . .
I like singing in A432 for the same reason I like tuning to Eb. It's easier to hit high notes. But it's a hassle tuning back and forth when I play with other people, recordings or UA-cam so I just play in A440 99.9% of the time.
killavenger he has said that he hears a kind of mixture of two tones, meaning A and A# simultaneously when hearing a sharper A, each note getting more noticeable the closer to the actual pitch they hold they are.
I think I have a negative effect to 440. Life somebody"ruffling my feathers".You made much more clear as to get people to understand these concepts. Physics was one of my favorite subjects in highschool but still how does this translate to practice, real life,how can I choose to tune my guitar to 432Hz?
Before i discovered that there was a literal debate over this i first noticed when listening to some heavy metal/rock records that they sounded off when i tried to jam along to them and figured it must be like a 'quarter step down' using my ear and ended up with 430hz and have had my floyd rose set up in this particular tuning for a few years now. it sucks having to detune every single (almost) song i wanna jam to haha but you will find that lots of mechanical/electronic/harmonic tones you will hear in your day to day life will resonate with this tuning! i think that must be where the whole 'freq of the universe' stuff came from...
After all I've read and heard about this issue, I agree with Rick, if tuning to 432 rocks your boat, do it. But IMHO, it what people play and their sound that takes great precedence over just it's pitch, when listening. Their choice of notes, as well as the relationship to each other, no matter what the pitch one's tuned to, is a greater factor in whether I feel the music is transcendent, calming, healing, or jarring, agitated, even violent. Playing crappy music can't be overcome simply by tuning to 432. And listening to music is so very subjective anyway, takes me back to saying just do what sounds best to you...
This discussion pops up a lot!The long list of pseudocience/spirituality stuff you reeled off makes me laugh for sure haha. It's clear there can't be a superior system in regards to anything like that, because resonances of physical bodies will never be consistent. Also, any significance of the number 432 is entirely arbitrary like you explained. Besides, that's just one single frequency of one single note whilst music contains the full spectrum!When people push such reasons in support of 432, they tend to show a fundamental misunderstanding of how sound works - throwing around words like resonance, harmonics, overtones, without realising that all these things remain consistent, just slightly lower. Their points could be used to argue for tuning systems like Just Intonation vs 12EDO, but 12EDO vs 12EDO slightly lower is really irrelevant. Tune to whatever :) As a rule of thumb lower will sound a bit calmer for sure. I liked Jacob Colliers modulation from 440 to 432 as it displays that effect very well.
Cycles per second weren't specifically measured until the year 1834 when the Savart Wheel and the Tonometer where invented, but because the metric system came out in 1795, music was accurate; even more so, relatively, than most people today with tuners. They knew, then, the note range for any given length of tube for a horn or a pipe organ to get different notes for transposition. The earliest development known for the metric system is from John Wilkins. In 1668, he proposed a coordinated system of units of measure for length, area, volume, and mass. This means that people knew what they were tuning and building their instruments to for more than half of the Baroque Era and all of the Classical Era. Things are generally accepted before they become standardized, but even if instrument makers didn't know the Hertz value, the metric system is defined as being derived from nature. So, like I've explained, instrument makers, then, knew the acoustical output of instruments based on the shapes and sizes of natural objects through simple observation. They might not have had tuners, but Europeans knew how to trace and compare lengths precisely since before they came out of caves. Perception is rooted in nature and the observation of it consciously. This is why your son sang a 33 and a third cent wide quarter tone. Let me explain; he had to hear when one note range started and the other one ended. 448 Hz tuning actually sounds 1/3 of a note flat, 440 Hz sounds 1/3 of a note sharp, and 432 Hz, being 40 octaves lower than the calibration of primary and secondary visual colors within a 12 tone system, sound balanced. Stay with me, now. He sang the note up past 448 Hz tuning and touched 456 Hz tuning (the next note up from 432 Hz) and in doing so, he then brought it down to where the note would sound so flat that it couldn't be confused with being the same note compare to the commercial standard of tuning. Take a look at this repeating pattern rooted in the conscious awareness of the complete range of any "A" (Orange) that is 40 octaves lower than the THz range of the visible colors Red through Yellow: •flat = 400 Hz = Ab = Raspberry-Red +8 Hz •in-tune = 408 Hz = Ab = Red +8 Hz •sharp = 416 Hz =Ab = Orange-Red + 8 Hz •flat = 424 Hz = A = Red-Orange +8 Hz •in-tune = 432 Hz = A = Orange +8 Hz •sharp = 440 Hz = A = Yellow-Orange +8 Hz •flat = 448 Hz = A# = Orange-Yellow +8 Hz •in-tune = 456 Hz = A# = Yellow +8 Hz •sharp = 464 Hz = A# = Lime-Yellow We are dealing with microtones, here, but compared to the World War tuning, in-tune is flat; flat is sharp (as the next note down); and, (as sharp as any note can be before it is in the next range of color) is in-tune. Understanding this will have you realize that 440 Hz came about to make music sound sharp. It is better to sound sharp than out of tune, but that is just 440 Hz, not 442 Hz or 445 Hz. I hope that this explains some of the weird theories that claim that 432 Hz can expand your awareness. It sure could help you to understand and develop perfect pitch. Thank you for taking the time to read all of this.
The difference of 440Hz to 432Hz is 1.8 percent. If you play a cheap acoustiv guitar for some time, you will start at 440Hz and end at 432Hz. The BIG benefit of the cheap guitar: you get all cosmic tunes between 440Hz and 432Hz. Doing this, you may find the secret frequency of the universe!
since music frequencies are logarithmic you cannot compare them in prtcentage which is linear, for A4 at 432 vs 440 it is approximately 1/3 of a half tone, that 1/3 of a half tone increases in percentage as go move to higher frequencies 😊
:) lol, I get to the same point with very few words, but this has to be one of the best responses to this debate/dilemma, whatever it is to whomever, that I have ever heard. Winning!!!
Explanation is very simple. They are just making money. On almost every website discussing how 432 Hz is better you will find CDs for sale (at least this is how it was 10 years ago when all that nonsense started).
what conspiracy theories are you talking about? no one is talking about conspiracy theories here yet you, a bunch of lazy wankers, are doing just that! You are the ones who are crazy not those who discover the truth about the world we live in :) Let me repeat this :) YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE CRAZY :) Deal with that :)
i was never convinced the 432 Hz was some miracle frequency so i thoroughly enjoyed this video - having said that, i still think the issue of energetic frequency in music is a profound subject - i would argue that the only so-called 'frequency' that truly matters would have to do with the unique character of the music itself
I've just stumbled upon something truley interesting. People believed that 432hz was resonant with 8hz (which was considered the harmonic resonance of the earth) ... until.. we developed fine instruments to determin it was really 7.83 which would make the A frequency 430.65. I didn't care to much about all the nonsense until i actually listened to a piece of music in 430.65 and it actually created this unusual humming sensation in my body. The closest thing i can descride it as, is the feeling i would get if i smoked a hit off of a joint. Not to get too hippy-like but it really felt like love was pumping through my body. But when i went back to 440hz music, it seemed to slightly intensify a slight headache i had from earlier in the day. Weird stuff.
What kills the 432 havinmg any sort of " spiritua;l " effect on a guitar is the equal temperment . You can adjust the fundamental tuning , however it still aint right !
i'd like to hear A432 compared to other alternative tunings, like A420 or something like that. My doubt is: is the relaxing effect due to just lowering frequency, or do 432 resonates better than higher and lower tunings?
Would "perfect tempo" be like being able to tap, say, 44.73 beats per minute accurately? I don't think this exists, but if it did, I would assume it would be parallel to perfect pitch, and would have a contrasting relative tempo. People without perfect pitch come close by using relative pitch, so they keep in mind a particular note and figure out the interval between the given pitch and the note - relative tempo would be achieved by say, listening to your watch ticks and knowing what 60 BPM sounds like, then you tap a rhythm at 60 BPM that gives you some other rhythm (if you tap dotted quarter notes at 60 BPM, you get 45 BPM - if you tap half notes at 60 BPM, you get 30 BPM - you can work out most tempos by doing a process like this). It's a starting point, but I would imagine it's not possible to be _that_ accurate at memorizing tempo.
Paul Sampson for mammals, that's roughly 1.5 million heartbeats Yep, bizarrely enough, our organs have finite operating limits, just like the things we manufacture. Sobering thought.
Somehow upon listening a song difference, 432 sounded less harsh more clear in the harmony. I could hear better every note and instrument thrown in the mix. Like a fog clearing up. 432 sounded more 'together' and I could feel more easily where the music was going. Just my immediate initial thoughts on the matter.
A 432 for me. Not for spiritual reasons, but I do believe that it is the most natural of the three frequencies mentioned. I have perfect pitch, and I do notice that birds seem to sing in a 432. Humans naturally speak and a 432.
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Just saw this - some 6 years later. Brilliant! What the people talking about a few cents either way don't seem to grasp is that music is not a single note, it is the resonance of harmonics. Shape of the room, even the moisture in the air can subtlety alter this. Let's tune the room, not the minutia! Go Rick!
Wow, three experts featured in one video? Quality has really come a long way.
ZeroFunctional I felt I needed some other opinions. Haha! Only Dylan knew what I was talking about. He really is an expert because he can hear the difference.
Rick Beato Examples would have been good to hear the difference.
Sounding off with the Beato trio?
Very funny :D
Can he recognize chords in 432hz?
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@@the-engneer kinda interesting that the guy who stares at the sun is right tho 🤔
@@touchgrassbro9889 right about what exactly?
@@the-engneer staring at the sun gives positive energy. It comes from the universe. It is similar to meditation
This is the best video I’ve ever seen on A 432 versus A 440 comparison! I especially like the way that the experts weighed in right at the end. Brilliant Rick!
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I absolutely love everything about how my guitar sounds and FEELS/RESPONDS; even through the amp, when tuned to my preferred Ab/Drop Db = 432Hz. However, considering nearly every piece of recorded music that i grew up listening to; and still do, was recorded using A = 440Hz(or some variation of it), so learning/jamming along with pre-recorded music or friends, is impractical. But my love of 432Hz has nothing to do with any mystical, cosmic, or devine theories. I can only say that when my guitar is tuned to Ab/Db = 432Hz, it just sounds, feels, and responds in a much more "relaxed" way. Not so tense/intense. If that makes any sense.
Ab means that E string is Eb? I think this is 415hz
I like half step flat alot on my classical because it's mellowed out and more rich sounding. I am also going to try A 432 and half step flat from there. I wonder if the strings will sound floppy. . .
@@micahmeneyerji you are just speculating on his behalf. singers strain voices singing lower notes in 440, than higher notes in 432.
432 is much more mathematically clean. 3 x 12 x 12 = 432. Generally, when I'm modding games, I like multiples of 12, because 12 is in common with both base 3 and base 2 and has crossovers with base 8. Idk, I just like base 12. It's a really nice number. In music, it probably doesn't matter. Most people don't even appreciate the instrumentation of a song, let alone are able to hear a 1.8% difference in pitch.
@@manictigerinteresting! Western music is divided into 12 notes.
So is time, clocks and calendars.
And we used to use the imperial measurement system 12inch = 1ft etc
I've listened to comparisons of the two (432 and 440), and for some reason the 432 does sound more calm and relaxing to me. I think it might just be because it's a slightly lower tone, thus sounds more mellow when set beside a 440 sample. Throughout school, I was a trumpet player, and we always tuned *A* to 440. We had a tuning machine that you would stand in front of and play an A, and it had little dials on it that would "freeze" when the note was just right - very much like the record player strobe light tuner on a turntable. In fact, it was the same color. But when put side by side, I do like the 432 better - again, I think, because it's just a slightly lower tone giving it a more "bass" sound.
I think it's because it's a natural set of frequencies when you can equally divide 12 from 432 (36). But when you do 440/12, it's an uneven calculation. I'd love to get my hands on an old flute that is actually tuned to 432. Some European orchestras actually do have recordings of Haydn & other classical symphonies on period instruments in 432 or 435 tuning.
@@rlopezflute I know there were so many thousand musicians who were trying to oppose a 440. I seem to remember middle C being tune to a 432 through the 80s. Then, it seem to me that C was changing into C sharp. Little by little by little, Noticed a 440 becoming more and more prevalent.
@@missyhilary8905 @Missy and Hilary Sisters it's weird, some orchestras here in the US even tune to 441. My piccolo & alto flutes are tuned to 442 because they were made in Germany & Japan, which tune their instruments higher. I have to pull the headjoints out more in ensemble, but not as much when I'm playing alone. I kind of prefer 442 to 440 because the airs comes out a little easier.
U are right! I feel the same 👍🏻
It's exactly that, sounds warmer because it is lower. If you'll compare A 432 with for example A 420 - then A 420 will be warmer... And we can go on like this. No magic here :)
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I love this. Great video, Rick!
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432 is so much easier and natural for me to sing to , also 432 is very calming , I put it on before bed and during work commute traffic and within minutes I am calm relaxed and happy
Did you believe that before you actually sampled it or only after hearing it?
I like to approximate 432 on acoustic guitar for a few reasons, mainly string tension on "long scale"(25.5") instruments. Tuning down a full half-step seems just a bit too flat, 432 just seems warmer to my ears...
It's okay to be tone deaf
@@ThePhreakass Maybe what you call tone deaf is actually the better music but we've listened to 440 for so long we think it's vice versa. Just a thought, no use in acting like we have all the answers because the world would be perfect if we did. If you don't like 432 hz that's fine but there's no use in being evangelical about something we only know on the surface level.
Sexagesimal second have 6.000 years. To discuss the seconds and the measurement of time and space based on the rounded seconds for the Hertz, before, we need to understand the sexagesimais origins of the second. Each turn of the clock has 43,200 slices, or seconds. And the number 60 is not a random choice. 60 is the smallest number with the largest number of connections: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, 30 and 60. We don't invent mathematics, we just discover the relationships between the quantities, and give them names. That's why I reaffirm that to understand the relationship between the number 432 and the sexagesimal mandala of 60, we need to understand its origins in mathematics, geometry and cosmology.
Good Morning. You are out of context, my friend... The 12 hour time has nothing to do with the sexagesimal degree nor hertz. The sexagesimal degree is one sixth of a semitone, but one semitone is different from another in hertz. You are confused, the dashboard of an analog clock is based on the Margarita Chart, and the Absolute Harmonic Circle is also based on the Margarita Chart... But hertz has nothing to do with cartography...!!! The XOANS Theorem offers more than a hundred axioms that support it. And one of them is: - "The INDIGO vibrates in A440" . Demonstrative argument: The spectrum or decomposition of the SUNLIGHT has seven colors, and each one responds with an absolute vibratory affinity. The Pacific Blue is an energy whose photons vibrate and move in an AS and a SOUND. And that SOUND is immutable and eternal, always in 440 Hz. Pythagoras did not know about Hertz, but he did effectively handle the TONE very well in the context of Greek music. Therefore, A is an immutable Natural Tonality, since it is the vibratory affinity of the AS of PACIFIC BLUE photons in the Solar Spectrum
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@ToniMazzotti, Buenos Días. Sexagesimal seconds are those that are divided into six degrees, because the system consists of dividing the circumference into 360°. This is not random. A semitone is a distance in hertz, but the hertzian proportion is different in musical Octaves. Therefore, the musical semitone cannot be divided into cents. One thing is the cent and another is the sexagesimal degree. The Cent, when the circumference is divided into submultiples of 100 and this is called the Centesimal System. In Music, the Harmonic Circle is based on the "Margarita" Chart, where the "Sexagesimal" System is applied, which divides the circle into 360°, that is, 60 minutes of 6° each, which shows us that each semitone has a second = 6 sexagesimal degrees. - Greetings.
@@jonassatchariel Stop with bs Mazzi U know not what u say
Rick, I love your videos and I was wondering if you could make a video explaining George Russell's lydian chromatic concept and its application in jazz composition. Thank you.
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I don't know about y'all, but I tune everything to 420hz :)
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Tune to A 432 harmonicas
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I like A432 Hz because its not standard ( its part of my Oppositional defiant disorder....) ;-)
whatever is pleasing to the ear..what did Eddie Van Halen tune to? i heard he wasnt that particular,,as long as the guitar was in tune with itself
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@@murkartik My contrarian personality disagrees with you 😀
@@davidberndt6275 Well as long as it's your personality not a made-up psychiatry term for "problems with authority".
I agree with Lennon. I moved to 432 Hz just because it seems a little richer in tone and seems to make slight intonation problems less noticeable. It's no big deal to me because all my gigs are solo. I keep a Strat tuned to 440 Hz, just in case you want to jam.
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When I play Slayer I tune my piano to 666
the diabolical tuning of another dimension!
When I have sex I tune my "D" to 69
that is not a good idea unless you are using a toy piano. you should play slayer on two pianos, one for each hand and each foot and tune them to A 333 hz
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Who plays Slayer on a piano?
Dear sir, this standardization issue is a bit of a "red herring" in that it supposes that the frequency that A is mapped to is really important, but as you point out for centuries (perhaps millennia) to exactly map a master tuning frequency to 440 Hz would have been impossible without modern science. So how did they tune at all? For guitarists this an important point and leads us to the 6th, and the difference between natural tuning and equal temperament and Das wohltemperierte Klavier (The well-tempered Clavier) by Bach and the differences in the fractions that make up Natural tuning (for instance tuning a guitar or piano to an open chord such as G Major or E Major versus Standard tuning. When tuned to the single Major Chord, as one goes around the Circle of Fifths, the 6ths begin to detune due to the fractions used in relation to the key center. Meanwhile in Standard or Equal Temperament, the division between half-steps is constant, and thus as one goes around the Circle of Fifths (no matter what key one is in), the "out-of-tuneness" is spread across all semitones as opposed to being solely centered on the 6th. If I am not mistaken, this also is the source of differences in notation on enharmonic notes, and the use of sharps when ascending and flats when descending for historical purposes. And finally, it took the three strings of a harpsichord or piano to really center in on equal temperament. Electronically, due to the fact that sine waves produced by electricity do not have inherent overtone artifacts unless they are deliberately designed in, we can have any mapping we desire, but it won't sound "as real" until the proper odd and even harmonics are added. Just my two cents. Great video
Dude, that's like at least 3 cents.
A very succinct reply.
This would explain as to why my open chord tuned guitars sound better tuned to A332 vs Standard tuned; then I just stick to the 'norm'.
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Even if water reacts differently to 432 hz, tuning music down to that frequency will only effect water (or anything else) when that particular octave of A is played. Music changes chords, pitch, and tones constantly. Unless the entire song is just one long A note, it's not really going to realign your chakra or whatever.
We are 60% water
@@spacercake What about many types of protein in our body? What about DNA and RNA?
Good point. Not many songs out there that only use A . If a person wanted to try vibration or resonance therapy, maybe a difference, who knows?
@@spacercake I thought I was bugging🤣 the whole point is if it can do that to water it can do worse to us
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432 is much better for meditation music and songwriting, I used to be sceptical but I have done a LOT of comparison and I don't think it's just a placebo and there could have been a conspiracy. I think Rick is being a bit glib with his dismissal here.
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Did you compare other frequencies besides 432. Or did you just test 440 vs 432?
Quick and straight to the point. Thanks!
couldn't help but laugh about resampling all of your audio collection!
432 is the best!! Stephen Dawson does Katie Perry’s teenage dream in 432 and it takes it to the next level
You won't convince all the new age nuts with facts, man!
Tell me about it, but for some reason, I can't stop being triggered by the fruitcakes.
Pythagoras has NOTHING to do with New Age, idiots!
@ please go listen to some Pythagorean tuned music, and I don't mean the ambient music, I mean music with somewhat complex harmony, it sounds like utter crap, no music where the ratio of the major third is 81/64 will sound good
@ Pythagoras has nothing to do with 432hz
Very good thank you !! I learned a bit about this subject playing with a french accordianist that had an old accordian instrument tuned in this way, A =435; You surely put more light on the subject with a few things i didn't know. Thank you Rick for the cool vids!!
FINALLY SOME INTELLIGENT TRUTH ABOUT THIS ARGUMENT!
Back in my days as a violin artiste , we would canvass our contemporaries if A-440 or, A-444 was better. Can you believe that?
I heard years ago that 440a was made so we would be forced into a more discordant type vibration overall concerning the music. Just something I'd heard in past, kind of like fluoride and other things people claim were introduced to not help us. I'm sure others have heard the same thing. Rick I dig your videos, all of them! 🎸
We have the Rockefellers to thank for enforcing 440 Hz as standard. They also gave us the brutal American public school system and helped fund the rise of the Third Reich. Go figure.
Hitler did this in his country
Love the nerdy factor of this topic...and two thumbs up for the experts opinions 👍
I have a theory on these 2 tuning systems. I think if our tuning system had been in 432, the world would be a better place... it's a fascinating "what-if" thought that i often have, although it's impossible. It's still fun to hear comparisons. There's something different about 432 tuning that draws you in. And this is coming from someone who has perfect pitch in 440. It's taken a while to get used to 432.
One day has 86400 seconds... 432/864...
That´s in line / sync with everything - the whole cosmos.
That is why sensitive people feel that. But in our dumbed down society it´s all just nuts...
Mankind is ignorant like...
@@vectragt2310oh wow, I didn't know about the seconds of rhe day. I do know that 432/12 = 36, but what is interesting is 440/12 =36.666 🧐 No wonder so many musicians have anxiety &/or are depressed! And that includes myself. If we're constantly exposed to unequal frequencies, it's doing something to us physically & emotionally. I wish more research was done on this.
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432/8 = physical
432/9 = spiritual / Ether side
And yes, 440 was put in place on purpose...
Also, no further investigation needs to be done if people learn to follow their intuiton and heart/earth.
@@vectragt2310 One day has 85.984,091 seconds, we just rounded it down to 24 hours. Also, a day is not the same in the whole cosmos, only our Earth day is roughly 24 hours. Stop trying to be smart as if 432Hz is in tune with the universe or something, it isn't even in tune by your own standards.
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Well, then I made an incorrect statement.
In line with earth and its frequency, as we ARE ON EARTH. And with 440 you are out of sync and it is not coincidence this became western standard.
There won´t be a direct effect from listening to 432, but over time when it would be all over the radio, etc. DNA and concioussness would change. As you surely know DNA is dynamic.
So stop trying to tell bs...
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I'm glad i didn't miss this one.
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haha I love the way you couldn't keep a straight face when mentioning chrystal healing energies and the frequencies of the universe woo woo :D :D :D
The smirk he seemed to be trying to contain was delightful.
The 19th-Century composer Giuseppe Verdi reportedly liked 432-Hz tuning because his opera singers’ voices lasted a lot longer. Nothing mystical about that. 1/3 of 1/2 of a step lower than 440 Hz seems barely noticeable to the average ear, but I guess that somebody who pushes their vocal ability to its limits for a good length of time would consider it a gift. 👂🏼🎹
A = 432 Hz resonates with Schuman Resonance of the earth, which is Earth's heartbeat at 8 Hz. In the scale the C note lands on 8 Hz in the lowest octave. So the idea is it's supposed to be at a natural flowing vibration with the universe.
I think all of this goes out the window once you start dealing with vocals. A persons vocal range is determined by the shape of their body. When I decide to do a cover song I do it in what ever key works for my voice. So it really doesn't matter what my guitar is tuned to.
Hahaha... went down this rabbit hole tonight. Nice treatment.
I like the Oldsmobile 442.
I have to say, this is my favorite video on the whole 432 vs 440 debate. Thank you!
I’ve found it a bit easier to sing when tuned 432.
I like your videos (even though they often go over my head and make me cry like an infant at my own ineptitude, leaving me wanting to: 432 part quit to 440 part get on my instrument).
This was so informative and cheeky at the same time. It made a potentially dry subject fun to watch. This has been my favorite so far!
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Western music in equal temperament uses 12 different frequencies, only one of which is a multiple of the frequency of A : the A itself.
A piece in Eb major tuned at 432Hz will contain no A at all, so no instance of a note vibrating at that 432Hz frequency.
This should be enough to debunk the 432 Hz bullshit.
I tune everything to 1 then makes the strings 432 times shorter.
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I'm 4 years later, but i love this comment, lmao.
I like to play Mozart and Beethoven (and Bach, I guess) at a semitone lower than today's concert pitch, and Chopin a semitone higher. BUT there's more to it than that: it's of more importance to use a non-equal tuning, so the different chords have different sounds from each other. I love the way even my Yamaha digital piano comes to life by using Werckmeister - with the C chords sounding so different from the Bs, the Gs sounding so different from the Aflats etc
A semitone up or down either way doesn't really make that much difference to many people.
Notes A3=216Hz (-31.77 cents) and G#3=204Hz (-30.7 cents),, just lay completely natural to my voice.. The ~ 30 cents lift from ~432Hz to 440Hz for A4 is not natural for my voice... MY voice relaxed resonance is around the tuning of A4 at 432Hz.. Singing high notes comes very natural when the guitar is tunes at 432Hz vs 440Hz.. The passaggio is shifted too high at 440Hz
Infact the highest pitch for my voice if I lay of a lot of weight (early transition) is ~438Hz (~8 cents). A4=440Hz is very difficult to find the balance in the throat.. In my world 440Hz excludes a lot of voices in music.. The previous european pitch at 435Hz is a better comprimise between a high (445Hz) and low pitch (425Hz).
A4=424-425Hz would be close to Mozats and Händels pitch as they used a forks at A4=421.6 and 422.5Hz but they were probably using a more "pure" tuning system like meantone or just intonation which was much more common which sets the A (major six. or La) note flatter relative to 12-TET in the C major scale. I think it was a piano tuning company from late 1800s that had their pianos tuned in Meantone at 433.5Hz for A4 and with 12-TET is was A4=436Hz. A difference of ~10 cents.
A tenor hitting the high notes to Händels halleluja to a piano tuned to 425Hz would be easy, nice and full.. At modern A4=442-443Hz which many like to tune their classical instruments at .. The tenor sounds bad... It is only the spinto tenors (very few individuals) that would sing the high part with ease...
We got it all wrong,, The previous pitch at 435Hz is as high the note of A4 should have gone to get the right classical division of fachs..
This is a fact...440Hz is a very "unnatural" singing pitch if I may use that word.
dansk björn 440 is unnatural to your body, and it is to mine as well - but my body is more comfortable around 450. The tiny bit of extra sharpness really helps me maintain consitant intonation. Conversely, I have an old bass trumpet that doesn't tune any higher than 430 - and I prefer to play it around 425. Every body and every instrument is different, and you gotta do what works best for you and for your equipment!
424-425/449-450hz as a nice spot i completely can relate to. it is another nice area together with the 432/457hz area. what is your vocal fach when singing..
the weirdest pitch area for my voice is 439-445hz. not low enough and not high enough
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440hz throws off our vibration and disconnects us from source. Hence why they made it the standard in 1932. Just another example of how everything in life today is backwards from how it was meant to be.
I had never heard of 432 vs 440 until somebody I hardly knew randomly sent me a video addressing it a year ago. It was an interesting video. A little bit new agey but interesting enough that I decided to try it. Lo and behold when I started singing it did seem like some ethereal static that I had subconsciously always fought against had been removed!
Last month I did my first gig in a while and definitely asked the band to all tune at 432 Hz.
Of course my mind was occupied with all the details of doing a show so I really forgot completely all about the fact that we had tuned down at 432. No question for the whole night I was kind of marveling over the way my vocals sat so comfortably on top of the mix!? That doesn’t happen a lot. Also the instruments were never fighting against each other. Each instrument seemed to have comfortable space. And we were not too loud. We were not un-loud But we were not too loud. I could see people still able to converse with each other even though we were playing at a decent volume. It was a few days before it occurred to me that it might’ve had something to do with us performing at 432HZ. I know there’s lots of snarkiness and mockers and scoffers around this idea. Lol… And may be 440 is/was more appropriate for our beloved rock ‘n’ roll era that was aggressive and harsh from the get-go. But as for me I love playing and singing at 432. My two cents! Great UA-cam channel Rick thank you!
Interesting post. I find that 440Hz- 442Hz makes the notes in the 12-TET scale sit rather high in resonance in the throat.. Move pitch down to 432Hz and most notes just seem to hover at my voices relaxed state.. And singing high in my upper middle register C4 to E4 becomes much more comftable.. In fact the passaggio E4 might be the most tricky note for my voice.. Move pitch down to 431Hz that E4 becomes so much easier to find the balance..
It sounds like your voice benefits from a lower tuning. But my guess is that it's not necessarily A=432. The same relaxation would probably come from tuning to A=434 or A=431. If it works for you though, go with it.
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I tried with many tunings.. I tried A4=430Hz and I find it a little too low when I hit my lower chest register.. The sweet-spot for my voice is around 434Hz..
I was recently getting sucked into this rabbit hole, so I appreciate the dose of facts! There are too many variables in the physical universe to be trying to find the resonance of reality or whatnot, lol!
I tried out the 432hz tuning on my guitar, and well at first I noticed a difference, once my ear became use to it, it started sounding normal. then tuning back with 440hz it sounded out, but soon after it sounded normal. it was a little like playing a song using flats, it sounds weird at first, but also somewhat more mellow and relaxing, but depending on the notes, it can also sound silent hill creepyish.
Thats because it doesn't matter what frequency you start A as. In 12 tone equal temperament tuning, its all whole ratios anyways.
We have A=440 today because of a centuries long loudness war. The higher A (with the same music piece) the louder/brighter it sounds, the lower the A the warmer, softer it sounds. Louder == Better. A has been anywhere between 380hz and 500hz depending on the era, composer, instrument, people, etc. We have old tuning forks for pretty much everything in between too. 440 was just chosen because its good enough, 'loud' but still manageable by traditional string instruments without breaking stuff.
The war continued when compression was invented. . .
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I like singing in A432 for the same reason I like tuning to Eb. It's easier to hit high notes. But it's a hassle tuning back and forth when I play with other people, recordings or UA-cam so I just play in A440 99.9% of the time.
A=435hz will always be my favourite. It all comes alive
By the way how does Dylan react to microtonal music? And also it would be interesting to hear your opinion on microtonal music composers, thanks!
killavenger he has said that he hears a kind of mixture of two tones, meaning A and A# simultaneously when hearing a sharper A, each note getting more noticeable the closer to the actual pitch they hold they are.
Thanks for the informative video Rick
I think I have a negative effect to 440. Life somebody"ruffling my feathers".You made much more clear as to get people to understand these concepts. Physics was one of my favorite subjects in highschool but still how does this translate to practice, real life,how can I choose to tune my guitar to 432Hz?
I was waiting for you so long man thank you
Before i discovered that there was a literal debate over this i first noticed when listening to some heavy metal/rock records that they sounded off when i tried to jam along to them and figured it must be like a 'quarter step down' using my ear and ended up with 430hz and have had my floyd rose set up in this particular tuning for a few years now. it sucks having to detune every single (almost) song i wanna jam to haha but you will find that lots of mechanical/electronic/harmonic tones you will hear in your day to day life will resonate with this tuning! i think that must be where the whole 'freq of the universe' stuff came from...
the earth's frequency is supposedly 8 hz, and 432 is divisible by 8 54 times. 5+4 = 9, and 9 +11 = NINE ELEVEN
That was a hell of a lot of information in under 3 minutes. Thanks Rick!
How can we disagree with an authority of Dylan's calibre!
After all I've read and heard about this issue, I agree with Rick, if tuning to 432 rocks your boat, do it. But IMHO, it what people play and their sound that takes great precedence over just it's pitch, when listening. Their choice of notes, as well as the relationship to each other, no matter what the pitch one's tuned to, is a greater factor in whether I feel the music is transcendent, calming, healing, or jarring, agitated, even violent. Playing crappy music can't be overcome simply by tuning to 432. And listening to music is so very subjective anyway, takes me back to saying just do what sounds best to you...
This discussion pops up a lot!The long list of pseudocience/spirituality stuff you reeled off makes me laugh for sure haha. It's clear there can't be a superior system in regards to anything like that, because resonances of physical bodies will never be consistent. Also, any significance of the number 432 is entirely arbitrary like you explained. Besides, that's just one single frequency of one single note whilst music contains the full spectrum!When people push such reasons in support of 432, they tend to show a fundamental misunderstanding of how sound works - throwing around words like resonance, harmonics, overtones, without realising that all these things remain consistent, just slightly lower. Their points could be used to argue for tuning systems like Just Intonation vs 12EDO, but 12EDO vs 12EDO slightly lower is really irrelevant. Tune to whatever :) As a rule of thumb lower will sound a bit calmer for sure. I liked Jacob Colliers modulation from 440 to 432 as it displays that effect very well.
Cycles per second weren't specifically measured until the year 1834 when the Savart Wheel and the Tonometer where invented, but because the metric system came out in 1795, music was accurate; even more so, relatively, than most people today with tuners. They knew, then, the note range for any given length of tube for a horn or a pipe organ to get different notes for transposition. The earliest development known for the metric system is from John Wilkins.
In 1668, he proposed a coordinated system of units of measure for length, area, volume, and mass. This means that people knew what they were tuning and building their instruments to for more than half of the Baroque Era and all of the Classical Era. Things are generally accepted before they become standardized, but even if instrument makers didn't know the Hertz value, the metric system is defined as being derived from nature.
So, like I've explained, instrument makers, then, knew the acoustical output of instruments based on the shapes and sizes of natural objects through simple observation. They might not have had tuners, but Europeans knew how to trace and compare lengths precisely since before they came out of caves. Perception is rooted in nature and the observation of it consciously.
This is why your son sang a 33 and a third cent wide quarter tone. Let me explain; he had to hear when one note range started and the other one ended. 448 Hz tuning actually sounds 1/3 of a note flat, 440 Hz sounds 1/3 of a note sharp, and 432 Hz, being 40 octaves lower than the calibration of primary and secondary visual colors within a 12 tone system, sound balanced.
Stay with me, now. He sang the note up past 448 Hz tuning and touched 456 Hz tuning (the next note up from 432 Hz) and in doing so, he then brought it down to where the note would sound so flat that it couldn't be confused with being the same note compare to the commercial standard of tuning. Take a look at this repeating pattern rooted in the conscious awareness of the complete range of any "A" (Orange) that is 40 octaves lower than the THz range of the visible colors Red through Yellow:
•flat = 400 Hz = Ab = Raspberry-Red
+8 Hz
•in-tune = 408 Hz = Ab = Red
+8 Hz
•sharp = 416 Hz =Ab = Orange-Red
+ 8 Hz
•flat = 424 Hz = A = Red-Orange
+8 Hz
•in-tune = 432 Hz = A = Orange
+8 Hz
•sharp = 440 Hz = A = Yellow-Orange
+8 Hz
•flat = 448 Hz = A# = Orange-Yellow
+8 Hz
•in-tune = 456 Hz = A# = Yellow
+8 Hz
•sharp = 464 Hz = A# = Lime-Yellow
We are dealing with microtones, here, but compared to the World War tuning, in-tune is flat; flat is sharp (as the next note down); and, (as sharp as any note can be before it is in the next range of color) is in-tune.
Understanding this will have you realize that 440 Hz came about to make music sound sharp. It is better to sound sharp than out of tune, but that is just 440 Hz, not 442 Hz or 445 Hz.
I hope that this explains some of the weird theories that claim that 432 Hz can expand your awareness. It sure could help you to understand and develop perfect pitch. Thank you for taking the time to read all of this.
The difference of 440Hz to 432Hz is 1.8 percent. If you play a cheap acoustiv guitar for some time, you will start at 440Hz and end at 432Hz. The BIG benefit of the cheap guitar: you get all cosmic tunes between 440Hz and 432Hz. Doing this, you may find the secret frequency of the universe!
since music frequencies are logarithmic you cannot compare them in prtcentage which is linear, for A4 at 432 vs 440 it is approximately 1/3 of a half tone, that 1/3 of a half tone increases in percentage as go move to higher frequencies 😊
Love the video. The experts at the end say it all. Too funny!
SOOOOOO GANG where we at‼️
:) lol, I get to the same point with very few words, but this has to be one of the best responses to this debate/dilemma, whatever it is to whomever, that I have ever heard. Winning!!!
Explanation is very simple. They are just making money. On almost every website discussing how 432 Hz is better you will find CDs for sale (at least this is how it was 10 years ago when all that nonsense started).
That's the explanation for new age bullshit in general btw.
It's pretty much the same with other conspiracy based websites : they often have books or/and DVDs to sell !
It's all about making bucks
what conspiracy theories are you talking about? no one is talking about conspiracy theories here yet you, a bunch of lazy wankers, are doing just that! You are the ones who are crazy not those who discover the truth about the world we live in :) Let me repeat this :) YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE CRAZY :) Deal with that :)
Rick, you 've just nailed it! So much fun watching your videos. Thanks and keep it up.
Nail he´s just rigged it...
i was never convinced the 432 Hz was some miracle frequency so i thoroughly enjoyed this video - having said that, i still think the issue of energetic frequency in music is a profound subject - i would argue that the only so-called 'frequency' that truly matters would have to do with the unique character of the music itself
It’s all about the harmonies and ratios of one pitch compared to another. 😁👍
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I see your editing skills are evolving!
Not Right Music it's easier with short videos. If I spent more time on editing I would put out less videos and shorter ones with less information.
I've just stumbled upon something truley interesting. People believed that 432hz was resonant with 8hz (which was considered the harmonic resonance of the earth) ... until.. we developed fine instruments to determin it was really 7.83 which would make the A frequency 430.65. I didn't care to much about all the nonsense until i actually listened to a piece of music in 430.65 and it actually created this unusual humming sensation in my body. The closest thing i can descride it as, is the feeling i would get if i smoked a hit off of a joint. Not to get too hippy-like but it really felt like love was pumping through my body. But when i went back to 440hz music, it seemed to slightly intensify a slight headache i had from earlier in the day. Weird stuff.
What kills the 432 havinmg any sort of " spiritua;l " effect on a guitar is the equal temperment . You can adjust the fundamental tuning , however it still aint right !
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This is my favorite Beato video.
i'd like to hear A432 compared to other alternative tunings, like A420 or something like that.
My doubt is: is the relaxing effect due to just lowering frequency, or do 432 resonates better than higher and lower tunings?
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I think this is the best video I've seen about this "controversy" so far.
Hey Rick - do you believe in such a thing as 'perfect tempo'? If so, is it acquired in the same manner as perfect pitch?
Would "perfect tempo" be like being able to tap, say, 44.73 beats per minute accurately?
I don't think this exists, but if it did, I would assume it would be parallel to perfect pitch, and would have a contrasting relative tempo. People without perfect pitch come close by using relative pitch, so they keep in mind a particular note and figure out the interval between the given pitch and the note - relative tempo would be achieved by say, listening to your watch ticks and knowing what 60 BPM sounds like, then you tap a rhythm at 60 BPM that gives you some other rhythm (if you tap dotted quarter notes at 60 BPM, you get 45 BPM - if you tap half notes at 60 BPM, you get 30 BPM - you can work out most tempos by doing a process like this). It's a starting point, but I would imagine it's not possible to be _that_ accurate at memorizing tempo.
Paul Sampson for mammals, that's roughly 1.5 million heartbeats
Yep, bizarrely enough, our organs have finite operating limits, just like the things we manufacture.
Sobering thought.
Somehow upon listening a song difference, 432 sounded less harsh more clear in the harmony. I could hear better every note and instrument thrown in the mix. Like a fog clearing up. 432 sounded more 'together' and I could feel more easily where the music was going.
Just my immediate initial thoughts on the matter.
A 432 for me. Not for spiritual reasons, but I do believe that it is the most natural of the three frequencies mentioned. I have perfect pitch, and I do notice that birds seem to sing in a 432. Humans naturally speak and a 432.
Wow! Way cool and wow :)
Thank you. For making that whole 440 v. 432hz thing make sense.
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