Why Do We Love The HieroFalcon?

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  • Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
  • Today we look at one of the newest battlemechs in the BattleTech universe, though it's survival is already in doubt.
    HieroFalcon MF-Configuration: www.dropbox.co...
    Sources: Objectives: The Clans, IlClan Rec Guide 21, IlClan Sourcebook, Hour of the Wolf, Tamar Rising, 3145 Field Manual
    Thank you to Dwane Loose, Anthony Scroggins, Matt Plog, Bishop Steiner, Alan Blackwell, Chris Lowry, Dale Eadeh, Harri Kallio, and all the other BattleTech artists that have brought the IP to life through their amazing work.
    BattleTech imagery and mech info remains the property of Topps.
    Some imagery/video from Pixabay
    #BattleTech #Mechwarrior #CatalystGameLabs #lore

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  • @derekburge5294
    @derekburge5294 8 місяців тому +13

    Battlemech: exists.
    Jade Falcons: grumbles.
    Battlemech with Partial Wing: exists.
    Jade Falcons: exciting shrieking.

  • @cobalt968
    @cobalt968 9 місяців тому +36

    It’s nice to see at least one clan lean into their animal totem aspect, and make use of exotic technologies in the process.
    Now if only the authors would toss the Horses a bone and make some custom quad mech tech that isn’t a niche gimmick like Quadvees…

    • @argokarrus2731
      @argokarrus2731 9 місяців тому +7

      Last I checked they had the Doom Courser which was pretty good and a HH design

    • @wallman9585
      @wallman9585 9 місяців тому

      I am pretty excited to test out the Doom Courser in the coming year. Looks like a great mech, will bring glory to clan Hell's Horse @@argokarrus2731

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +9

      I'm fully on-board with totem mechs so long as they don't get too absurd and look like horses... Looking at you Clan Hell's Horses...

    • @sterner626
      @sterner626 9 місяців тому +1

      HH BA is certainly something lmao

    • @Elit3Nick
      @Elit3Nick 9 місяців тому +1

      @@MechanicalFrog Look like horses and way over-engined (looking at you, Balius)

  • @ilkoderez601
    @ilkoderez601 9 місяців тому +19

    Like someone fighting for a plasma TV on black Friday LOL

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +4

      First thing I could think off when I was pondering a viscous attack.

  • @krissteel4074
    @krissteel4074 9 місяців тому +15

    I really don't mind the HAG, mostly because it can really crank on battle armour and vehicles which can be quite threatening to a medium mech. The lasers I'd probably swap out for something else but they'd work ok.
    Been a good year for your channel, here's to hoping for the next being just as great!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +3

      We're just going to keep plugging along and see what happens. Have a great New Years!

  • @Ironclockwork
    @Ironclockwork 7 місяців тому +2

    “Business acumen” and “Jade Falcon” are not words that I normally envisage within the same sentence. Kinda ironic how such an effective design shows up as its namesake clan’s future is on the ropes.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  7 місяців тому +2

      Yeh... the ability of Clan economies to actually function has been a bit of a grey area in the lore.

  • @Yacovo
    @Yacovo 9 місяців тому +9

    The mech seems like a go between from a LAM and a standard mech. Thanks for the video.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +2

      A flightless bird that almost has it.

  • @Bolththrower
    @Bolththrower 9 місяців тому +8

    I like the Heirofalcon a lot, its been a constant model on my gaming table.

    • @gkeaton9755
      @gkeaton9755 9 місяців тому +1

      Interesting enough, a Jade Phoenix, a hierofalcon prime and B, and 2 Ion Sparrow Primes comes under 300 points for Alpha Strike.. Just Sayin....

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +1

      It's a fun one.

  • @ambientlight3876
    @ambientlight3876 9 місяців тому +4

    Yay! Another JF 'mech! I wanna collect all of them!
    As for the HieroFalcon, this 'Mech seems to be Jade Falcons version of the Shadow Cat, trading MASC for improved Jumping capabilities. It seems the HieroFalcon and it's contemporaries represent a shift from the more Mongol 'mechs like the Skrike.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому

      Hopefully we will have models soon.*
      *2024 hopefully.

    • @gkeaton9755
      @gkeaton9755 9 місяців тому

      @@MechanicalFrog Iron Wind Metals makes Hierofalcons. The prime comes with A config arms, and they have a B config, that also comes with prime AND A config arms!! They are a little off with Scale... but are well done, otherwise.

  • @meining-mech4378
    @meining-mech4378 9 місяців тому +8

    I also hope Jiyi’s Falcons can carve a somewhat stable existence in the years to come. I really like the direction of the new “winged” mechs from CJF. Designs like the Eyrie, Gyrfalcon, and Shrike visually never sat well with me for being too “beaky”. Don’t know if I’ll get a Hierofalcon yet, perhaps I’ll wait till we get a plastic or premium one from CGL, though I will say it’s an attractive looking mech.

  • @chrischase2508
    @chrischase2508 9 місяців тому +7

    i really like the MF variant this time, super balanced and feels about right for a clan medium

  • @halosammy14
    @halosammy14 3 місяці тому +1

    The Hierofalcon is good, but the Jade Phoenix is the more…optimized if we’re looking at the new partial wing designs. Optimized is the best word I can think of, as its existence doesn’t invalidate the Hierofalcon’s.

  • @Alpha_Digamma
    @Alpha_Digamma 9 місяців тому +1

    The A configuration is insane. Jumping distance of 10 hexes? Forget hitting that thing. In fact, forget your rear armor. That large pulse laser will melt it right of with a hit or two.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому

      Barring lucky shots, it would be a difficult mech to pin down.

  • @scytheseven9173
    @scytheseven9173 9 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for the video, MechFrog! You should get a pat on the back and some cookies.
    I'm a big fan of the HeiroFalcon, it's kinda like an Omni-Super-Phoenix Hawk. My favorite's the A variant, but I like the MF loadout too. Pulse lasers are a good choice for a jumper.

  • @randyslater199
    @randyslater199 9 місяців тому +2

    AS promised on Christmas day I open my MF present and now another must be added to "The Collection"

  • @MilitaryStyx
    @MilitaryStyx 9 місяців тому +1

    I actually just finished painting one up for my CJF Delta galaxy. In Jiyi Chistu we trust.

  • @georgesulea
    @georgesulea 9 місяців тому +1

    A Christmas Mech! Thank You!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +1

      Ho Ho Ho... Now I have a 45 Leaping Death Machine...

  • @mathewkelly9968
    @mathewkelly9968 9 місяців тому +1

    I love the partial wing Jade Falcon Mechs haven't been able get one of these in Oz yet though

  • @gwin2719
    @gwin2719 9 місяців тому +1

    Merry Christmas mech frog!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому

      Merry Christmas and have a great New Years!

  • @STSGingie
    @STSGingie 9 місяців тому +3

    Love seeing mechs lean into both form and function. The Falcon bird mechs arena lot of fun and, as you said, were criminally understated in Hour of the Wolf.
    As for the future of the Mech. Marena is going to sell the thing by the batch, I bet. Now that she and the foxes have annunderstanding I bet they are salavating tonget their hands on Falcon tech.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +2

      Quite possible. I hope that's the outcome rather than mothballing it.

  • @nexusofice9135
    @nexusofice9135 9 місяців тому +2

    Merry Christmas fellow Mechwarriors!

  • @andresabourin2423
    @andresabourin2423 9 місяців тому +3

    I see Jade Falcon, I watch.

  • @Boseeinsteinshake
    @Boseeinsteinshake 9 місяців тому +2

    Another great video! I really like this machine (even if I usually hate cockpits that miss a armor bubble from the start). It's basically pure aggression in most of it's donfigurations, I made one with a large pulse laser, in each arm and a medium in the center torso, two additional heatsinks and jumpjets. Didn't get to play it yet.

  • @sim.frischh9781
    @sim.frischh9781 9 місяців тому +1

    I´m not exactly a friend of the HAGs but i understand their value on the battlefield. And the potential they have for sheer destruction.
    Personally i would take the D variant and swapp the two pulses for two more ER mediums for one more DHS and one ton of ATM ammo so i can at least carry SOME third option missiles.
    The MF variant is nice, it has a decendly rounded loadout that leaves the pilot plenty of tactical options.
    You really like your generalists XD

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +1

      The other option would be to end up with all three options just with miss-matched across launchers.
      Long live the generalists, as they often do.

    • @sim.frischh9781
      @sim.frischh9781 9 місяців тому +1

      @@MechanicalFrog Well you have 19 tons, there´s a lot of tonnage to work with if you feel fancy XD

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +1

      I feel a little fancy right now, yes.

  • @EdmondHiggins
    @EdmondHiggins 9 місяців тому +3

    I like the new 'Bird" mechs the Falcons are using these days.
    Also HAGs are amazing if volatile.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +1

      They do tend to leave an impression.

  • @MegTheWarpsmith
    @MegTheWarpsmith 9 місяців тому +7

    is that a mech outside of clan invasion ?! How dare you ! :D

  • @haileysaint5443
    @haileysaint5443 9 місяців тому +2

    I'd have liked it for just being a Clan Jade Falcon design (and I'm also flipping off Malvina Hazen right now, too, lol), and my opinion hasn't changed after this video. The Prime, D, and MF configurations are ones I like, but like always I came up with my own.
    The Hierofalcon ISM retains the standard Jump Jets of the Prime, as well as the TAG, but completely changes the weapons load. In the center torso is the TAG, along with an Active Probe to aid it in hunting. A Clan Laser Anti-Missile System was added to the head to protect it against incoming missile - an umbrella was thought to be too extravagant - and that rounds out the equipment load. Offensively, which if you're a Wolf is what this 'Mech is regardless, it mounts an IS Plasma Rifle with 2 tons of ammo in the right arm, along with a Clan ER Flamer, and 2 Clan Medium Pulse Lasers are mounted in the left arm. While definitely intended to be the bane of infantry and tanks, it isn't an easily dismissed threat to Light 'Mechs and many Mediums. Of course, since it's a Falcon 'Mech that warning might have to be issued to Heavy and Assault 'Mechs as well.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому

      You know I'm never going to take issue with a Plasma Rifle build.

  • @sterner626
    @sterner626 9 місяців тому +1

    Merry Xmas MF! Wonderful video shedding light on one of CJF's true beauties.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +1

      Merry Christmas! Let's hope 2024 is a year of rebuilding for our green bird friends.

  • @TheStraycat74
    @TheStraycat74 9 місяців тому +1

    the nonsense must flow... even on X-mas.
    happy Mech-Mas, frog and mini-frog. and a merry new ILCLAN to you and yours, and I say that from the bottom of my cold dead Mercenary heart (because I like breaking clanners and stealing their salvage XD )

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +1

      Everyone deserves a mech video on Christmas.

  • @Brigand231
    @Brigand231 9 місяців тому +1

    Here, have a pat on the back and some cookies. Merry Christmas!

  • @spacewolfblackmane19
    @spacewolfblackmane19 9 місяців тому +2

    It's funny how the Jades Falcon's change of tactics and use of more dynamic or as I've heard called "anime" lite designs were considered controversial. When not only are they some of the best looking mechs in my opinion. The Mongol doctrine is exactly how I like to play, fast and up close, except I love to get into melee, and take melee specialist mechs all the time

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +2

      While not a big physical combat guy, I can appreciate that they adapted to their surroundings rather than staying rigid to tactics that stopped working a hundred years prior.

  • @fenny1578
    @fenny1578 9 місяців тому +2

    I swear, as a relatively old hand (started playing in 04') the more modern mechs feel like Heavy Metal Pro fever dreams and the setting is starting to feel like a weird Stellaris playthru. Neither of those are bad things, I hope. I mean. It can't really get much worse than dealing with the now (and, honestly even then too) dated Wobby tussle with a totally not picked because of real world modern events theme.
    Or, Kerensky forbid.
    The Mechwarrior clix game. 💀

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +2

      The evolution in style is interesting to me. I think it's a good thing and realistic. Cars from the 1930s obviously wouldn't look like cars from the 2030s.

  • @jasonhenninger8220
    @jasonhenninger8220 9 місяців тому +1

    5/8(10)/5(7), partial wing, supercharger, Endo, 8t Ferro, 12DHS, 4 ER MLASERS, 2 LRM15 (2t Ammo each), targeting computer. (BV2 2755)

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому

      Accurate ER Mediums on a jumpy boi... hmm... I like it!

  • @bthsr7113
    @bthsr7113 8 місяців тому +1

    A decent guardian for a forsaken nest.

  • @Tatsu_of_Liao
    @Tatsu_of_Liao 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video! Merry Christmas!!

  • @sharlin648
    @sharlin648 9 місяців тому +3

    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays everyone and thank you for this vid Mr Frog! Lets hope this thing gets added to any future potential Star/Lance packs :)

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for coming by for it. Have a great day and the rest of your year!

    • @Elit3Nick
      @Elit3Nick 9 місяців тому +1

      Oh hey :P

  • @thestabbybrit4798
    @thestabbybrit4798 9 місяців тому +4

    I want someone to mod the HeiroFalcon B into MW5, just to see those SRMs nuking assaults in an alpha strike.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +1

      That would be fun to do some epic leaping.

  • @gkeaton9755
    @gkeaton9755 9 місяців тому

    Just a note... Sudaten HAS clan tech mech manufacturing facilities. Just because "the new 3" were (originally) manufactured on Alinya, does not mean it has to always be manufactured there. In my thoughts, having Khan Chistu roll up and demanding either a tithe, schematics/infrastructure (or both) would not be out of place. With most of the uber hot-heads laying dead on battlefields scattered from the occupation zone clear to Terra, I could see the remaining falcons a bit resurgent. Becoming more moderate (maybe, heh) Integrating a tad more into the IS, refusing to acknowledge the Ilclan, and remaining the traditional foil to the Wolves.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah we'll see. Lots of things up in the air at the moment.

    • @gkeaton9755
      @gkeaton9755 9 місяців тому

      @@MechanicalFrog Yessir, that it is. Perhaps one of these days we will get an author that won't pigeonhole (heh) our green birds into being "the bad guys" and something for the wolves to beat. Hopefully, since there is a distinct lack of fiction at the moment, when the situation is updated by CGL they will at least throw us a bone....

  • @Ironhold_Watch
    @Ironhold_Watch 9 місяців тому +1

    We are everywhere, it is true!😯

  • @therakshasan8547
    @therakshasan8547 9 місяців тому +1

    In the immortal words of OMEGON , Merry Moistmess .

  • @beskar66
    @beskar66 9 місяців тому +1

    Bird mech goes CAW CAW

  • @Primearch-GG
    @Primearch-GG 9 місяців тому +1

    Frog, seriously, a christmas video and you don't even wear a santa hat? Not to mention not having a santa camo pattern on your elemental? This isn't a "Ho-Ho-Ho" this is a "Ho-Ho-How dare you?!".🎅
    P.s. happy holidays!😘

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому

      I did do a festive community post... ;)
      Happy Holidays and I hope you finish the year happy and healthy.

  • @gkeaton9755
    @gkeaton9755 9 місяців тому +1

    Heh, I had a big comment on the Fact that Sudaten has clan tech mech manufacturing facilities, and the future of the clan... but it didnt post... bummer.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +1

      There are other locales but from what I was able to find, the only place HieroFalcons are being produced is on Alyina.

  • @Dreadwolf3155
    @Dreadwolf3155 9 місяців тому +1

    Merry Christmass to you as well, and cool mech to cover. I always like me a creative medium. question on the wing, may they be installed as an omnimech pod?

    • @gkeaton9755
      @gkeaton9755 9 місяців тому +2

      No, If I am not mistaken, they have to be Fixed.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +1

      They have to be fixed to the frame of the mech.

  • @atmosdwagon4656
    @atmosdwagon4656 9 місяців тому +1

    The chassis looks amazingly fun to pilot, but the default configurations make me sigh.
    I'm still not a fan of heavy lasers or HAGs; especially not when god-tier weapons like the Clan ERPPC and pulse laser suites are available.
    Forward combatants with TAG is not an issue with me. For example, I run TAG on assault leads like the Hunchback and Awesome since zombie-mech head slots are the perfect slot for directing second-line fire from.
    (my quad-RAC/2 config in MWO has a "vestigial" TAG and it has actually lead to quite a few grateful LRM boats and streak brawlers thanking me for boosting their matchscore. I figure that as an assault brawler, the more you concentrate fire, the longer your operational lifespan.)

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +1

      While not a big fan of the Primary Config, I think the others each have their charm. There's something for everyone.

  • @Geeko170
    @Geeko170 9 місяців тому +1

    But clawing at someones eyes on black friday is what the RAC 2 is meant for.

  • @pete7872
    @pete7872 9 місяців тому +3

    Merry Xmas MF. \o/

  • @robkitchen5344
    @robkitchen5344 Місяць тому

    Im waiting on the clans to inprove upon TSM before going with physical brawler builds ....

  • @RibusPQR
    @RibusPQR 9 місяців тому +1

    The A sounds good, although I suppose the C does have hole-punching and crit-fishing.
    And this is one bad MF config, as in I wouldn't want to face it in battle.

  • @marsar1775
    @marsar1775 9 місяців тому +1

    Where have all the good men gone and where are all the gods?
    Where's the streetwise Mechwarrior to fight the rising odds?
    Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed?
    Late at night, I toss and I turn and I dream of what I need
    I need a hiero
    I'm holding out for a hiero till the end of the night
    He's gotta be strong and he's gotta be fast
    And he's gotta be fresh from the fight
    I need a hiero
    I'm holding out for a hiero till the morning light
    He's gotta be sure and it's gotta be soon
    And he's gotta be larger than life, larger than life
    thats about all imma put into this joke. now, on to watch the episode

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  8 місяців тому +1

      This is art.

    • @marsar1775
      @marsar1775 8 місяців тому +1

      @@MechanicalFrog thank you lol
      i like to imagine this was playing on the comm channel as that one hierofalcon fought like mad to save malvina

  • @jefffreese947
    @jefffreese947 9 місяців тому

    Great vid MF!!! Love the Hierofalcon, except the prime config. MF - could you do a video on the HAG? With the exception of the school of cool (which definitely counts for something), is there a reason to run the HAG instead of a similar damage impacting LRM?
    One of those mechs that for the most part goes whole hog on things that stack well (partial wing, IJJ, pulse lasers). Really like pretty much all the variants, and would love to pilot the MF version. My version would run 5xMPL, TC, 2xStreak6 w/ 1 ton ammo. If you're lucky enough that the Streaks lock on - you're in trouble heat wise, but that's what jump 8 is for next turn!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  8 місяців тому

      I don't think there's much difference beyond the rule of cool as you mentioned. there's a lot of overlap in results between the HAG and LRMs.

  • @TAVAAR7
    @TAVAAR7 9 місяців тому +1

    Every time I hear someone say "aff" in a video, even though I know its clan shorthand, I want to say gesundheit lol

  • @roguerifter9724
    @roguerifter9724 9 місяців тому +1

    I don't. There's no configuration I really like. Sure I could draw one up easily but I could do the same with any 45 ton Clan Omnimech. Plus there are some Shadow Cat standard variants I like a lot including options for both direct combat and LRM fire support.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому

      Oh no! Well, at least there's always the Shadow Cat. :D

    • @roguerifter9724
      @roguerifter9724 9 місяців тому

      @@MechanicalFrog I'm not fond of direct fire ammo dependent weapons in Battletech. LRMs have the indirect fire capability but SRMs, Autocannons, Gauss weapons, and so on I would rather just take one or more energy weapons and extra heat sinks then never have to worry about running out of ammo or ammo exploding

  • @dzeclectic2327
    @dzeclectic2327 9 місяців тому +1

    Green bird Uziel

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому

      There does seem to be a resemblance...

  • @louiswilkins9624
    @louiswilkins9624 9 місяців тому +1

    Cool new to me

  • @verysilentmouse
    @verysilentmouse 9 місяців тому

    It's a pity it's a clan bin chicken mech

  • @robkitchen5344
    @robkitchen5344 Місяць тому

    Jump of 4
    ????(
    I'd never use it. Out maneuver by almost every mech minus a few IS builds of 3025 technology ...only the pulse lasers reduction the jump Modifier.
    Modifier down to ÷1 [instead of the ÷3 the stock grasshopper has and would too if not for the pulse lasers does this even have a an advantage like qw become used to.. ....drop SRM-6 SLdown to a 4 and add atleaat another jump jet.....a stinger can escape if your in heavy forest terrain by out jumping you.....nothing i dislike more then light mechs evadung any of my 50 ton clan mechs or lighter......... uou can have a standard 7/11/7 movement and be virtually only with dice rolls of 12 ....er and medium pulse laser+ target computers equal death to all IS mechs if they attempt any attack....if they can't reach cover afterwards ... id damage them too greatly for them to ger away.... while likelt to eeceice not a scratch in return ...a Mercury with masc and initiative could get on the back...but will need to be at short range, survived the hits(7 hit points is a lot to any mech carrying about 40 total points of armor... ....modify the rukes so it isnt hust enter map edge 1st hex which is normal play.... +3 for jump and +3 for the 7 hexes of movement and lets be genuines and naje the IS mech warrior an ellite gunner with skill of 1 which they wouldnt be in a Mercury but ....going to need roll of 9 at point blank rangewith only 1 med laser... .... as long as i move maximum distant of jump... my armor effectively doubles dye to the box cars needed to hit me at long and median ranges ..for all IS mech warriors except for the ellie Allard Lio blood line type of skilled gunners....ill take those odds.....

  • @ero9841
    @ero9841 9 місяців тому +1

    I'm not feeling this mech. Looks and loadout. I can't put my feeling on it. It feels off and wrong.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому

      Well phooey. Maybe the next one will grab ya.

  • @justincase9282
    @justincase9282 9 місяців тому

    That was the dumbest scenes of Hour of the Wolf.

  • @catherinenyxsera3900
    @catherinenyxsera3900 4 місяці тому

    Much love for the Hierofalcon. Everything I love in a medium. And I find the AML very fascinating and hope they have a large number of years ahead.

  • @sebastiang.5032
    @sebastiang.5032 9 місяців тому +1

    I want a plastic model from this so much! Catalyst, take note! 🦜🦜🦜

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 місяців тому +1

      I'm holding out hope that IlClan mechs will arrive in the second half of 2024.