there is no clamp my dude he has removed the bold some of the seats like this cant get removed since its a stunt bike the seat metal is out in when it was heated up so once it is in there u cant pull it out
Yeah, my thought to, had a similar problem a few years ago, did eventually manage to get it loose with enough violence, but the next step I had planned was to cut it.
Yes definitely you should use the local bike shop if you have the opportunity!! We are the only Local Bike shop so it is imperative we learn the skills to help the BMX community! 👊👊
Correct way to do this is just to use a slide hammer, it's what plumbers use to seperate rusted pipes. A few hits with that thing it will come right off no mater how rusted, every other method is a waste of time.
If the pipe you are trying to remove is inside the frame try dry ice instead of heat on tge peice you want out. Massive amounts of cold could shrink it enough to help remove it.
@@prof.creepypasta6509 Or you could just whack it with a slide hammer and have it out of the frame in under 5 seconds no matter how corroded it is. You can rent one for a day at Home Depot for like 8 bucks. Cold isn't going to break rust as well as a 90 LB slide hammer smacking it.
No you don't use heat and cold, as the interface between the 2 pipes is not threaded. You use cold and heat on threaded interfaces like large bolts in an engine. You use the tool designed for this job the slide hammer. Literally 30 second job with this tool.
Heat makes metal expand, you may want to try cooling it instead! Drop in in a bin of ice water. If that doesn’t work on its own, possibly try heating the frame from the seat tube and cooling the seat post with ice, then pull it out
Bros gonna grease every seat post he has from now on though! An expensive lesson but he won't ever forget a quick grease smear before putting metal & metal together again
@@Soknik01 there's no bolt in that seat clamp so it's applying no holding pressure to the seat post, it's seized as well as the seat post. Even if it was the seat clamp was still fastened it would snap like a twig under the force he applied when he had the massive scaffold bar on it & was stood on it....
@@gazcoleman I've had posts seize but never that badly. The damn thing couldnt be more stuck if it'd been lubed up with jb weld and stuffed in there. Wonder if the post is a mm too big or if its an aluminum post in a steel frame?
@@T77BMXas mention by another comment, it’s part of the name of a German rap-group. The origin is actually American, it was first used by American rap artists as a reference to the paragraph 187 in Californian law (homicide)
When using heat or cold, make sure it is localised. If the frame, where it joins the seat post, heats up (or cools down) at the same rate as the seat post then they will expand/contact together and it will not help you with removal.
@@T77BMX listen to learn not to reply... ok so throwing the bike away is better than damaging the paint? but heat makes things expand anyway. when i saw that i already knew how dense you are. looking at your reply to this comment will maybe help you become a little less stupid because your reply is what makes you stupid.
Baught a used frame with the same problem, I used much more heat than you as I have access to industrial grade torches.. someone mentioned “slid hammer” but I can confirm that on the most stubborn sadly that did not cut it either The best and sure to work method that should be done before heat tempers your frame and hammers bed it is to cut the top of the seat post off exposing the hole through the seat post All you got to do then is take a thin saw blade and cut through the length of the seat post and pull it out but crushing it in on itself and tada (I used a sawzall and ones I got close to hitting the frame itself I used a hand saw)
This is excellent!! Thank you so much!! We got the frame back out & trued for round 2! 🥊 You won’t beleive we managed to get it almost complete with your method! ☝️ Thanks for the comment brother 🙌👊
Heat up the entire tube not just the top could be seized down further. And use oxyacetylene instead of just a heat gun. You will have to repaint it however if you do.
@@T77BMX well no bro if its not budging on the side your hitting try the other side this happend to me when i cant open a jar and i was Dumbfounded when i turned it to the other side uhh yea that bike is gone but still check the garbage for it😅😅😅😅sorry for late reply
Or maybe you forgot the seat clamp every dude on the coments said it YOU KNOW WHAT JUST CHECK THE DAMN BIN i would be cry if i receive a comment that said "i think your hitting the wrong side" after i throw it away
You were just making the problem worse using heat as it will expand both metals and cause them to clamp onto each other even tighter😂😂 We love and we learn. (Been there before) lol
I had this problem on occasion at bike shops I worked at. If you take the bottom bracket out, turn the bike upside down, pour a regular can of coke in the seat tube (not the seatpost) whilst the bike is upside down in a vice. Next day the coke used to eat through the oxidization and come right out. I know this is only an anecdote but it's worked for me when all else has failed. I hope this helps someone.
The aluminum of the seatpost welded itself chemically to the steel of the frame, due to constant heat cycles and poor lubrication. The thing you'll need to do is to obliterate the seatpost completely, while still leaving the seattube relatively intact. Since this is a BMX seatpost, it's likely to be rather short, so a sawzall to cut off the top of it, and to make slots into the tube should solve the problem. Usually.
Im a mountain bike mechanic and i always put a bit of grease on the seat post to stop it seizing up I would recommend using a good quality grease or just the grease you used to make the bike
i know that im late to this but by adding heat to it you get something called thermal expansion which as in the name expands the mettle causing it to be more stuck you need something called thermal contraction to open the gap by using liquid nitrogen to get the thermal contraction to get it lose from the frame.
@@mybuickskill6979 that’s great bro! Thanks a lot. We did loosen it the bolt was fully out. But yes can’t beleive I got it wrong with the heat! 🔥😫 Dry ice is a good idea bro
Its really easy to remove. All you need to do it is chop the top of the post off and then use a slightly smaller bore drill piece to drill the center of the post. Once you've weakened the post, use a small saw blade to saw it inside outwards. 😊
Recently, I got my kink issue back. Was bare metal when i got rid of it. It came back to me after many years in need of love. The seat post was stuck like this as well. Used one of the yellow canned torches and some transmissions fluid. Came out after a few minutes.
Try using a bottle jack or a lift of a sort, secure the bike down and use the bottle jack or lift to push your leverage bar, might snap the bolt might also work hope this helps
Bro said leverage in a way I’ve never heard before 😂
Lee ver ig?
You've never heard anyone speak English before?
@@FaintAcrobat
No, he said it in a weird British way
Heat the outside of the frame up. Heat makes metal expand if you Heat the seat post you'll make it tighter
I can’t Beleive I didn’t know this! 🤦♂️😅
@@T77BMX Use liquid nitrogen
@@T77BMXuse a vase torch if u can oxy poropane will fuck the paint but will have bmx
School bot error @@T77BMX
yeah and use the wd40 to cool the post from the inside right before you smack it so there is a temperature difference between the frame and SP
Yea have you tried losing the seat clamp 😂🤦♀️
No bolt in It stfu
There is no screw in there
It doesn’t have a bolt tho so it has no pressure on the seat post
It’s as if it isn’t there
Imagine!! 🤣🤣🤣 that would have saved a lot of time. I can confirm the bolt is fully out! 😫💀
It's quite visible that the bolt was missing so idk why people point it out???@@T77BMX
+1 for plumber knowledge. This is 100% a plumbing problem, not a bike problem! 😂
How is it a plumbing problem? (From a fellow plumber)
“I can’t afford to break this bolt”
*Throws whole frame out*
🤣🤣🤣 Good point. The bolt was from another part so I needed it for that!
should have used a blowtorch, not a heatgun
Giveaway would have been far better
🤣
Just drill it out at that point
Use Caustic soda to desolve the post, protect paintwork,be patient and you will be able to save the frame
Ok!!! This is excellent, thanks a lot! 🫡🔥🔥
@@T77BMX caustic soda works if the seatpost is aluminum and the frame is steel. caustic soda + (hot) water will disolve aluminum.
Until he realizes he forgot the seat clamp 😂😂😂😂
Exactly what I was thinking
You can see in multiple shots throughout the video that there is no bolt in the seat clamp therefore did not “forget” the seat clamp.
Yea y’all don’t know that it takes a through bolt to clamp it
It has no bolt in it therefore no clamping power acting upon the seat post
there is no clamp my dude he has removed the bold some of the seats like this cant get removed since its a stunt bike the seat metal is out in when it was heated up so once it is in there u cant pull it out
@@mervan184I have the same bmx but white never had any issues with it clearly the seat bar that is used was abut to big and was forced into the frame
My brother didn't pay attention to physics in school. Heating it causes the metal to expand 💀
I had this problem. I just cut the seat mount off the post. Then made 2 cuts down the length with a hacksaw blade. Came out really easily.
And that's the solution here! I did the same on a bike of mine a few years ago 😀
This is the way.
Yeah, my thought to, had a similar problem a few years ago, did eventually manage to get it loose with enough violence, but the next step I had planned was to cut it.
Fixed, same here, 2 slots with a padsaw
Damn that’s hella smart. Way to go.
I think, bringing it to a local bike shop will do the thing.
Yes definitely you should use the local bike shop if you have the opportunity!! We are the only Local Bike shop so it is imperative we learn the skills to help the BMX community! 👊👊
Correct way to do this is just to use a slide hammer, it's what plumbers use to seperate rusted pipes. A few hits with that thing it will come right off no mater how rusted, every other method is a waste of time.
OK!! Sounds good dude I’ll look into that!! It’s not the first time we’ve had a frame like this! 😳🫡👊
If the pipe you are trying to remove is inside the frame try dry ice instead of heat on tge peice you want out. Massive amounts of cold could shrink it enough to help remove it.
@@prof.creepypasta6509 Or you could just whack it with a slide hammer and have it out of the frame in under 5 seconds no matter how corroded it is. You can rent one for a day at Home Depot for like 8 bucks. Cold isn't going to break rust as well as a 90 LB slide hammer smacking it.
No needs a torch not a heat gun lol
No you don't use heat and cold, as the interface between the 2 pipes is not threaded. You use cold and heat on threaded interfaces like large bolts in an engine. You use the tool designed for this job the slide hammer. Literally 30 second job with this tool.
Bro forgot that in science its actually not heat but you need something very cold for the metal to kinda shrink but shrink enough to be more loose
Also heat makes it expand a bit more
OK!! Thanks for this 🫡🫡 now I know 🤦♂️🤣
Glad someone else realized this 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@scotth4439learned it off yt yet not in school lol
If you heat the outside, it should've released.
You need to melt the seatpost out. Caustic Soda. Heat and leverage will do nothing, there was a chemical reaction between the different metals.
Perfect!! Thanks bro, Caustic soda is coming out for pt.3! 🫡👊👊👊
@@T77BMX not sure if you are being sarcastic or not 😆
In all honesty that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You're not serious are you??? Surely you're taking the piss
Please wear eye protection!
gallium + aluminum = win
Heating it up will just expand the metal making it tighter!
Heat makes metal expand, you may want to try cooling it instead! Drop in in a bin of ice water. If that doesn’t work on its own, possibly try heating the frame from the seat tube and cooling the seat post with ice, then pull it out
YES, that’s a perfect solution!! Thanks a lot! 🫡👊👊
@@T77BMXDidn’t you thrown away the BMX ?😂
This happen back then with my surly moonlander. I got 2 cans of Finish Line chill zone spray. Its a 2 person work with lots of brutality. Bt it work.
Nah, heat up the frame, dry ice or liquid nitrogen on the post.
Heat does make metal expand buts that's the point heat up seat post it expands expanding the frame
The seat clamp was a trooper
Bros gonna grease every seat post he has from now on though! An expensive lesson but he won't ever forget a quick grease smear before putting metal & metal together again
And it has to be re-greased at least every year
He left the seat post clamp on...
@@Soknik01 there's no bolt in that seat clamp so it's applying no holding pressure to the seat post, it's seized as well as the seat post. Even if it was the seat clamp was still fastened it would snap like a twig under the force he applied when he had the massive scaffold bar on it & was stood on it....
@@gazcoleman I've had posts seize but never that badly. The damn thing couldnt be more stuck if it'd been lubed up with jb weld and stuffed in there. Wonder if the post is a mm too big or if its an aluminum post in a steel frame?
@phorest wouldn't go that far lol
I would love that frame
Anyone german noticed the 187?
😂😂😂😂🐊
ich
In America it is used as a police code - I believe that’s why they have used it! 🫡 I am keen to know what the 187 will represent in German? 🙌
@@T77BMX 187 Straßenbande refers to 187 Street Gang which stems from a german rapper and is a common joke here in germany among teens😂🤙🏻
@@T77BMXas mention by another comment, it’s part of the name of a German rap-group. The origin is actually American, it was first used by American rap artists as a reference to the paragraph 187 in Californian law (homicide)
187 is police code for homicide
Assuming you loosened that seatpost clamp, dry ice on the post.
It's called a blow torch more heat from a heat gun. That's why you work on bikes😂
Yes a blow torch, and we will melt the seatpost to butter. However, a blow torch would also damage the paint on the frame.. 🤔
When using heat or cold, make sure it is localised.
If the frame, where it joins the seat post, heats up (or cools down) at the same rate as the seat post then they will expand/contact together and it will not help you with removal.
@@T77BMX listen to learn not to reply... ok so throwing the bike away is better than damaging the paint? but heat makes things expand anyway. when i saw that i already knew how dense you are. looking at your reply to this comment will maybe help you become a little less stupid because your reply is what makes you stupid.
Baught a used frame with the same problem, I used much more heat than you as I have access to industrial grade torches.. someone mentioned “slid hammer” but I can confirm that on the most stubborn sadly that did not cut it either
The best and sure to work method that should be done before heat tempers your frame and hammers bed it is to cut the top of the seat post off exposing the hole through the seat post
All you got to do then is take a thin saw blade and cut through the length of the seat post and pull it out but crushing it in on itself and tada (I used a sawzall and ones I got close to hitting the frame itself I used a hand saw)
This is excellent!! Thank you so much!!
We got the frame back out & trued for round 2! 🥊 You won’t beleive we managed to get it almost complete with your method! ☝️
Thanks for the comment brother 🙌👊
LMFAO..
You heat both the stem AND the sleeve😂😂
Professionally licenced upstairs neighbour
y dint u clamp the seat post in a vice an spin the framme
Thanks Brother… Vice is coming out in Pt.2 - I’ve also got a special surprise!! 🥤🤔🤔
i just chiselled out the seatpost. dedication is key
Heat up the entire tube not just the top could be seized down further. And use oxyacetylene instead of just a heat gun. You will have to repaint it however if you do.
Excellent!! Thanks for this. It makes total sense! I was really trying to avoid anything to damage the paint… but we may be left with no choice 😫🙌
You gotta get it red hot with a torch
He was heating the wrong part 😂
The bars, stem and fork trashed too?
Noo, they’ll be fine. We got it back out of the bin for round 2! 🫡🥊🥊
This has happened to me, you just have to lose the seat clamp 😂
Hahaha oh man I wish it was that simple. I tried that also 🥲
I think bro was turning it in the wrong way😅
Oh no!! Hahaa I wish this was true 😫
@@T77BMX well no bro if its not budging on the side your hitting try the other side this happend to me when i cant open a jar and i was Dumbfounded when i turned it to the other side uhh yea that bike is gone but still check the garbage for it😅😅😅😅sorry for late reply
Or maybe you forgot the seat clamp every dude on the coments said it YOU KNOW WHAT JUST CHECK THE DAMN BIN i would be cry if i receive a comment that said "i think your hitting the wrong side" after i throw it away
Angle grinder entered the chat
Hahaha. No way, That is very funny! 🤣🫡
Bros using heat in stead of something cold 😂
Bro is making it more stuck with heat not loosening it lmfaoooooooo
Heat makes the metal expand
“I have enough Levvrege” 😂😂
Lol😂 he threw away his handle bars too
You were just making the problem worse using heat as it will expand both metals and cause them to clamp onto each other even tighter😂😂
We love and we learn. (Been there before) lol
Ohhh man, I can’t believe I didn’t know 😫🤣🤣 Thanks bro
@@T77BMX happens to the best of us bud, we're only human😅👍
Bro were turning that seat to the wrong side 😂
Bro heated it up and didn't pour ice water on it 😂😂😂😂
Brother metal when heated expands itself😅
Ohhh man?! I can’t believe we didn’t know this! 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Haha man says heat basically just brrathing on it with that heat gun
Haha! Yes but a torch would ruin the pain 😫 we’ll see if we can fix it in pt.3
Freeze it mate. Heating will also expand the seat post against the frame.
Wooops.. I Can't Believe I Didn't Know! 😫🤦♂️ thanks bro ! 👊
Heat gun heat is hilarious. Put a torch to it and I bet it would’ve gone differently
Wooops.. I Can't Believe I Didn't Know! 😫🤦♂️ Next time.. We Will Melt it
@@T77BMX lmao
cold would have worked as metal shrinks when cold, heat expands it so you were making it tighter😅... hope it helps for the next one🤙🏼
This is a really good idea bro! Thanks a lot 🙌👊👊
@@T77BMX no worries dude🤙🏼
Mr.grinder and mrs.chisle will be your best friend 😂
Hahahaa!! 🤣 Good idea!!
Some random dude gonna find it and remove the seat easily and say “Free BMX”
And that's why ladies and gentlemen, we use grease
Dude are you kidding.
It's so funny watching people who aren't mechanically inclined
Maybe baby... At least we know how to make a good video.. 🙌🫡
Jb welding wizard back at it again
🫡
Bro is the upstairs neighbour
And now he got his frame hot which will make it brittle over time
Ohh man, I can’t believe I didn’t think of this. I hope it’s ok.
Anyone else noticed that half the time he’s hitting or turning it the wrong way😂😂
Hahaha Woops.. My Bad! 🤣👌🔥
I had this problem on occasion at bike shops I worked at. If you take the bottom bracket out, turn the bike upside down, pour a regular can of coke in the seat tube (not the seatpost) whilst the bike is upside down in a vice.
Next day the coke used to eat through the oxidization and come right out. I know this is only an anecdote but it's worked for me when all else has failed. I hope this helps someone.
Yo that is an awesome comment bro!! thanks for the idea's. I have tried to Coke trick i coulnt get it to work! I will have to go back for Round 2! 👊👊👊
Hit this as hard as i can
* tap tap tap
Bro was tightening it the whole time
‘And even heating it up’
Bros using a £20 heat gun on steel 😂😂😂
The aluminum of the seatpost welded itself chemically to the steel of the frame, due to constant heat cycles and poor lubrication. The thing you'll need to do is to obliterate the seatpost completely, while still leaving the seattube relatively intact.
Since this is a BMX seatpost, it's likely to be rather short, so a sawzall to cut off the top of it, and to make slots into the tube should solve the problem. Usually.
I remember when there was only the stress shot… what good days, getting excited for every tease and finally getting a removable mag what good days
"WHY AM I THROWING OUT A PERFECTLY GOOD BIKE IN THE TRASH" maybe because there's no wheels
hammer the seatpost tube so it bends and create more space, and yes it will hurt your frame a bit but will make it work smoothly
That’s a good idea!! 🫡🙌
Plot twist - it's left hand thread 😂😂😂
Little does he know it’s cross treaded
Ahhh man! 🤦♂️🤣🤣
Someone needs an big ol impact drill
Ohh that would be decent!! Haha it would definitely work! 🫡👊👊👊
Metal frame + ali seat post = amalgamation
Mannnn it’s a nightmare it’s so stuck! 😱🤣
There was a clamp you could unscrew to take it off easily
'perfectly good' lmao.
Haha, well it would have been if i managed to get the post out
The heat makes metal expand bro
Wooops.. I Can't Believe I Didn't Know! 😫🤦♂️
You do know that if you hear something, it expands. Unless there's some gunk that you hope to loosen, heating it will do you no favours.
Wooops.. I Can't Believe I Didn't Know! 😫🤦♂️ thanks bro!
Turns it to the right the entire time
Haha! 🤣 imagine that was it. I wish
thats a high quality bmx
Not enough heat and you need pb blaster it's literally the best thing for that job 😂😂
Haha OK!!! Good idea. Yes needs more heat for sure 🫡🔥🔥🔥🔥
Bro forgot to use his brain that day, how did heating it up ever sound like a good idea?
i love how he aimed the heat gun on the one part youre not supposed to heat when using that technique
That post is literally welded to the frame, certain materials aren't supposed to be in close contact if you want them to move later on
oh damn... It felt exactly like that! haha. 🫡🤣👊
Im a mountain bike mechanic and i always put a bit of grease on the seat post to stop it seizing up I would recommend using a good quality grease or just the grease you used to make the bike
Yep.. it is essential! People that don’t grease the seatpost are silly because this is exactly the issue it will cause 🙄. Thanks for the comment! 🙌
Bro left an aluminum seat post inside a steel frame a lil too long
i know that im late to this but by adding heat to it you get something called thermal expansion which as in the name expands the mettle causing it to be more stuck you need something called thermal contraction to open the gap by using liquid nitrogen to get the thermal contraction to get it lose from the frame.
Thank you for the comment dude!! Great explanation 🙌. I wish I knew this before 🤦♂️😂. Next time I am gunna try something completely different. 🤔👊👊
I guess the 187 on the bike which stands for dead as a cop code says it all😂
Ohhh damn! Aha I almost forgot about that! 🤦♂️🤣
Bro, loosen seat clamp also, you'd want to heat the frame to loosen the inside seat post. Or you could use some dry ice inside the Seat post it self
@@mybuickskill6979 that’s great bro! Thanks a lot. We did loosen it the bolt was fully out. But yes can’t beleive I got it wrong with the heat! 🔥😫 Dry ice is a good idea bro
@@T77BMX always up to help, even if it's after the fact, keep your head up bro
@@mybuickskill6979 legend!! Thanks dude
Time for the welding torch m8😂
Was a reverse thread the whole time 😂
Rj the bike guy holding all his tools in the corner
Hahaha nice!! 😅
I've had this same issue with mine. Came to the same conclusion lol
When people say use heat they mean use fire extra hot not just a heat gun lol
Its really easy to remove. All you need to do it is chop the top of the post off and then use a slightly smaller bore drill piece to drill the center of the post. Once you've weakened the post, use a small saw blade to saw it inside outwards. 😊
Bros using a china heat gun lol
Haha yep!! We working our way to the top 🗻 🫡
as a car mechanic bro, that heat aint doing shit for you
Put the seat post in a vice, rotate the frame, worked for me.
Recently, I got my kink issue back. Was bare metal when i got rid of it. It came back to me after many years in need of love. The seat post was stuck like this as well. Used one of the yellow canned torches and some transmissions fluid. Came out after a few minutes.
THE SEAT CLAMP!!!!!!!
Heating the seatpost just makes the grip tighter.
Man needs to get a real torch
I've managed this situation with a good table mounted vise.
Thats a great idea dude!! 🔥🔥👊👊
Bro sounds like phoenix from Val
Maybe they'll start selling drills in the UK after this video 😂
A torch would have been better than a heat gun
Damn. I can’t believe I didn’t know.
Try using a bottle jack or a lift of a sort, secure the bike down and use the bottle jack or lift to push your leverage bar, might snap the bolt might also work hope this helps
That’s very helpful!! Thanks a lot 🙌👊
Drill a hole from the top. Then try to brake it down from the inside or file down until it becomes thin and fragile.
Thats a Great idea bro!! 🔥👊👊
Heck no it was no ordinary challenge it was a tall order
Hahahaa Brilliant!! 🙌👊👊👊