RMS Carpathia was the ship that took my grandfather to France during WW1 as one of those American and Canadian soldiers she transported. This ship has a special place in my heart and I'm sad she was sunk.
She didn't just rescue the Titanic survivors she stayed afloat long enough to get her crew off safely that ship was a hero and honestly she went out with honour she didn't get scraped she died a hero's death
The fact that it took three torpedoes to sink it with plenty of time just shows how well made the ship was. Lusitania went down in less than 20 minutes with just one torpedo and it was HUGE!
You also have to consider that the explosion of the torpedo that struck RMS Lusitania caused a chain reaction that resulted in a second explosion that was larger and more destructive than that of the torpedo.
@@teru797 Yes it was carrying munitions, but no they could not and did not blow up as they were stored no where near the point of impact the were further forward than that, It was most likely a boiler or coal dust explosion that caused the major damage to Lusitania.
That she was. I only wish she were still present today. Alongside titans like the Mauretania, the Olympic, ships like those deserved that kind of new lease on life. Neither the largest or most luxurious ship, but she performed above and beyond the call of duty.
@@drewintampa That really would be something. The ocean liners of that time have a majesty to them totally different from the cruise liners we see today. Not to knock those, but you look at Titanic, Olympic, Mauretania, Normandie, France, Lusitania, Andrea Doria, the United States, the original Queen Elizabeth, the original Queen Mary, they're a whole different breed. And even smaller ships like Carpathia have a quieter elegance to them that must not be forgotten. She served the world well in peacetime and in wartime.
Poor Carpathia! She raced her hardest and had the engines damaged from it while heading towards Titanic to save as many lives as possible on such a fateful night. Then her fate 6 years later, it was as if she was trying to hold on as long as she could to let all the lifeboats left off in Time. She might be gone but she will NEVER be forgotten. I’m glad Carpathia is at least not scrapped though. God Bless her and her crew 😢
Its just a ship. She didn't do anything. She was just a vessel controled by humans. And everyone on the ship being saved was thanks to the captain, and the laws of physics.
What a very smart Captain. That is so fantastic that he was able to save all the crew that was still alive. R.I.P. to the poor souls who lost their lives. ☮️
I've always thought the whole "turn off the heat and hot water, overpressurize the boilers, post extra lookouts, and fire rockets when they got close to give the survivors hope" thing was super badass of Captain Rostron. They could have ended up hitting an iceberg too, and if I recall they didn't have enough lifeboats for all of their passengers either. It must have helped that Carpathia was still moving at under 20 knots even at top speed and was a smaller (and presumably more maneuverable) ship than Titanic.
Yes. Smaller. Slower. More maneuverable. What Titanic was doing that night was operating as steam ships usually operated. The ocean is wide, dangers are relatively rare. Maintain a sharp lookout but maintain high speed. And not slow down for something you probably won't encounter at all. And if you do, steer around it. What was not appreciated by the Captain, or by pretty much everyone, was that ships were now becoming bigger and faster and turn more slowly and so that now the old policy was starting to become dangerous. What had worked for many decades of steamship sailings was no longer safe enough.
In addition, Captain Rostron, increased the outside lookouts, on the crow's nest and other places, to seven, to provide maximum observers. Seven times icebergs were seen but all avoided. In none of the seven cases, were any of the outside lookouts the first ones to raise the alarm. In all cases, it was the bridge crew, standing behind glass, sheltered from the wind, that made the first spotting. One would think that glass might interfere with the view, and it would be better to stand in the clear air, but this did not seem to be the case. Perhaps the Titanic may have done better not to depend on the outside lookouts but to have the best lookout on the bridge. Perhaps they did, I do not know. I do know that on the Titanic, the first warning came from the exposed lookouts, not from those on the bridge. The Carpathia experience hints that this may have been an error. A lookout on the bridge, whose only job was to look ahead, may have helped.
Great story! As a retired seafarer I really appreciate this video. I had heard about RMS Carpathia's role in the Titanic disaster many times over the years but never a whisper about what happened to the Carpathia till now. Such a sad end for a great ship.
You were absolutely right, Sam, I had not before known of or had considered the eventual fate of the Carpathia, so thank you for the story. Also, I noticed in the photo of the Carpathia's last moments you can actually see, in the lower left corner of the photo, a portion of the U-boat from where the photo was taken.
The famous photo of the Carpathia sinking was indeed taken from the U-55. If you look closely at the photo on the far left you’ll see deck gratings that are of the WW1 U-boat design
Great job Sam! Kudos for the great research and animation. It was fitting that the Carpathia's record of excellence in times of crisis was repeated during her last voyage. She had excellent captains and a very well trained, disciplined crew by all appearances. RIP Carpathia!
A ship that served as a hero to one had a valiant end saving all but 5 people who were on board. God bless the Captain who thought outside the box when he heard communications were down. Long Live RMS Carpathia! Also, I love the LEGO ship
You know, a deep dive into Carpathia would be great. The little I’ve been able to dig up shows her to have been a cozy little ship, I certainly wouldn’t mind crossing on her.
The long awaiting video on the sinking of Titanic 's hero. As with the Britannic, it was lucky that it able to abandon ship with all living souls getting off it before it sink.
While still a tragedy, it's a miracle that only a small handful of people died during the sinking of Carpathia. Ironic that the rescuer of Titanic's survivors would meet a similar fate
@@bajskuk Shut Up. All the crew are most certainly heroes and will never be forgotten, but they themselves would think of the ship as something alive, otherwise they wouldn’t call the ship she.
I just recently found your channel ( Sadly because of the tragedy of the Titan submersible). I’ve been doing all kinds of research on the Titanic history and sinking. You do a wonderful job of narrating and telling us about these history events. I subscribed to your channel and look forward to more history lessons, especially maritime history.
Thank you so much for making this video. The RMS Carpathia was the ship that brought my great-grandmother over to the U.S after the ship picked up passengers from what was known as Fiume, Austria-Hungary. This was, if I'm not mistaken, just a few months after the Titanic sank. Carpathia was an enormous piece of history. Please keep making these types of videos!
My great grandfather was an assistant doctor on the RMS Carpathia, who saved many people who were on the titanic. I never knew it met the same fate as the titanic, thank you for expanding my knowledge.
@@joanna7350The Californian would have not been able to do much of a difference…. Although she was in a nearby area. Her speed was only 14 mph. When her radio operator heard about the Titanic’s sinking from the Frankfurt, it took them over 2 hours to reach the disaster site. It took the Titanic 2 hours and 40 minutes to sink. And it wasn’t fully know that the Titanic was sinking until about a half hour after the iceberg collsion. So yeah…
I had discovered Historic Travels roughly a week ago and have been watching atleast one video a night since. I find this channel is not only factual and historically accurate, but the Lengths Sam puts into these videos is phenomenal. Aswell the past and present video format has been the same aswell as Sam's unwaivering enthusiasm towards his audience and making these videos.
Thanks for sharing all those fascinating details about RMS Carpathia, Sam. I knew the ship sank, but did not realize it did so as the result of being torpedoed.
I was aware RMS Carpathia was found a few years ago, but I knew nothing of her sad end. So hearing this story I must admit I was gobsmacked. What a sad and tragic end to a historical ship. This story now completes my Titanic knowledge, even though I'm sure there are many more stores. But this fills in many empty spaces that I was unaware of. I have often wondered, if RMS Carpathia had survived the war, how many more years at sea she would have had in her. Interesting thought eh? Again, thank you ever so much for adding to my knowledge of a most historical ship.
Carpathia was also the ship that my grandfather Walter E Seaborn and his 210 Canadian battalion travelled on to Europe in April 1917. I inherited a number of photos taken on board that voyage. I did find some deck plans and was able to make an accurate RC model of it over one of the recent covid winters. I have to say though, that I was appalled seeing the large number of livestock stalls which were a feature in Carpathia as a result of its intended passengers, that is carrying rural immigrant folk from the Carpathian coast. It was certain to be a perfect vessel for the transport of troops who were destined for the trenches of Europe.
It's horrible that all these beautiful ocean liners have sunk, but it's more horrible that the rest were scrapped. Only the Rex remain of all those beautiful ships.
😲 I had absolutely no idea that was how she ended up. I'm feeling a lot of different things right now...but mostly sad. She definitely deserved better.
A sad end for a famous ship but to be able to save all living souls was a happy ending. A pity about the five though, rest in peace. A very interesting video, thank you 👍
It was a miracle that the loss of life wasn’t as big as Titanic’s was. The R.M.S Carpathia was a great ship that no only saved the survivors of Titanic but severed Great during its time. Great video 👍🏻
Apparently there was a show case in the saloons with medals and silver cups presented to the Carpathia for her role in the Titanic disaster, I wonder if this was removed as war broke out or I hope not on board when she was sunk.
Better for the Carpathia to go down in battle than in a "breakers yard" It seems that both the Titanic and Carpathia were both slow to give up the surface. Great watch Sam.....
If you look at the the other ships involved in the Titanic story, a large number of them met their ends in WWI, not just Carpathia. Californian, which ignored Titanic's distress signals, was torpedoed. Titanic's sister ship, Brittanic, struck a mine and sank. Oceanic, which Titanic nearly collided with when leaving port, hit a reef while evading U-boats and sank.
The Californian didn’t literally ignore them. The radio operator was already asleep before the distress call went out. Also, the the timing of the rockets wasn’t proper, which confused the Californian’s deck officers.
The Carpathia is very special to me because my great great grandfather traveled on her to Liverpool where he met my great great grandmother and on their honey moon they traveled on her to the Mediterranean
RMS Carpathia: I followed her race to save the lives on the Titanic. Her captain was so well organized. He took her full steam ahead until hr encountered the ice field.If the California (?spelling) had strpped up she could probably have saved more lives. thank you for sharing,
A great video, Sam. I honestly didn`t know that much about the Carpathia other than she rescued the Titanic survivors. I did however know that she sunk, I just didn`t know how, or why
If you look at Wilhelm Werner's record and his 'achievements' (killing survivors, sinking a hospital ship etc.) we may have a pretty good idea of what his intentions were. The odd thing here is why he was so patient during the evacuation. However, due to his 'patience' or whatever, HMS Snowdrop luckily had time to turn up and probably saved a lot of lives as a result.
I didnt know he did that, looks like my instincts were accurate. I had a feeling he may have been like that due to the fact he torpedoed Carpathia 3 times. Then after that he began to move his uboat toward the survivors.
Not to say anything about this specific U-boat captain, but firing 3 torpedoes (2 in an initial spread and a finishing shot afterward) is completely normal in submarine warfare. In fact, I'd wager he specifically waited for the evacuation to be complete before finishing the ship off. He may have been a monster, I don't know. But in this case, his actions are not only fairly standard, they're all consistent more with a U-boat captain trying to minimise loss of life rather than worsen it. A truly ruthless U-boat captain would have either fired a larger spread (eg 3 or 4 torpedoes) for a quick sinking, or fired a third torpedo or used his deck gun to finish the ship off within minutes, then chased some of the other fleeing ships in the convoy. If anything, for a U-boat captain, Werner was very patient and lacked aggression in his pursuit of this convoy and sinking Now for anyone not familiar with U-boats and submarine warfare, the reason you would generally never fire just 1 torpedo come down to 3 factors: 1) U-boats are very slow underwater, generally around 5-7 knots. Half the speed or less of even a merchant vessel. They rely on the element of surprise, as once a ship is aware of them, it is much harder to hit said ship. This means you have generally one chance to hit a ship with torpedoes (unless you commit to a lengthy chase and repositioning for another attack, which could take hours to days). This means the pressure is on to ensure a hit 2) torpedoes are relatively difficult to aim and often miss due to imperfect calculations. If you need to guarantee a hit, firing 1 torpedo is too risky. You will generally fire what is known as a spread - a set of 2-4 or even 6 torpedoes, staggered into a fan pattern to cover a larger area, to ensure at least some hit and that they hit the ship in multiple areas. 3) torpedoes have a high rate of failure and even without failure, a single torpedo often will not sink a large ship at this time period. For this and the above reasons, you can't rely on just one being fired. All this added up means it's standard practise to fire a spread of 2-6 torpedoes at targets, because many will miss or fail, or fail to sink the ship. Werner's actions here are therefore not unusual at all, and in fact I would be surprised if he didn't fire MORE torpedoes in his initial attack (maybe 3 or 4), of which only 2 hit
just ran across you when the Titan went missing and you were posting updates. I liked your updates because you didn't hype everything up or clickbait the public you just gave the info you had and a little knowledge also. So this video popped up and here I be. Nice video to the point, no assumptions and delivered clearly. I will Subscribe. Have a good evening and know you are doing good work.
I am not sure how it was in WW1 but in WW2 german submarines usually gave the surviors the direction to the closest coast and some food, there is even a story of a submarine towing life rafts in order to safe the people.
@@JazzJaRa Okay then.Just saying that if you look up Wilhelm Werner you are gonna have to deal with strong anger and disgust after finding out what horrific and evil things he's done.
Carpathia truly was a hero ship. She not only managed to save over 700 lives from the Titanic, but also managed to save over 200 more of her own passengers and crew by staying afloat long enough for them to safely evacuate the ship. She also saved the lives of the crew on board the other ships in the convoy when she was struck by the torpedoes. If she hadn't used flag signals to alert the other ships, they may have suffered a similar fate as Carpathia making the loss of life much higher. It's sad that she isn't more famous for everything she did and the number of lives she's saved.
Great video Sam. It is so sad that RMS Carpathia was sunk. She should be in a museum. So strange how many of the ships that had a connection with RMS Titanic sank, except her big sister RMS Olympic. 😉🇬🇧🇺🇦
Carpathia was a great ship hands down. Hey Sam today it was reported that a Megaladon tooth necklace was found at the Titanic wreck. And the SS United States may be facing eviction from Philadelphia.
Carpathia is my favorite ship in general from saving Cunard from near bankruptcy from saving the survivors of Titanic and she just looks beautiful one funned liners are so stylish
RMS Carpathia was the ship that took my grandfather to France during WW1 as one of those American and Canadian soldiers she transported. This ship has a special place in my heart and I'm sad she was sunk.
That cool to know
I’m sad too
i am also sad
My grandpa went to France on it also many stories about it
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It's impressive that little Carpathia was able to stay afloat for almost an hour after two torpedo strikes. Tough ship.
Don't call him little he is brave and big boy
the Carapathia causally calling the Titanic a Bitch by saying I didn't hear no bell.
The guy just said the ship lasted 1 hour and 45 minutes...
@@tedthesailor172 yeah but after the third torpedo it went down like a rock
@@veerendrapatidar2929 her*
_Titanic, Brittanic,_ and _Olympic_ always get all of the attention. Thanks for sharing the fate of the _Carpathia._
the Britannic got very little attention she was sunk during WWI as well
They end with 'ic'. That's why they get all the attention. Don't be jealous.
Titanic is a shameful ship hahaha
@@jaxsparrow_12 - Friend, not only was your comment not droll, you laughing at it actually makes me feel pity for you. SMH
@@jaxsparrow_12 Wow,so edgy
Saves lives in her life, and also her death! A fitting tribute to a valiant ship!!
She didn't just rescue the Titanic survivors she stayed afloat long enough to get her crew off safely that ship was a hero and honestly she went out with honour she didn't get scraped she died a hero's death
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@Guapo Returns Your face is cringe. Original comment is great.
@@Doncroft1 I have received a plethora of compliments on my face in my lifetime… Doncroft , do you know what a plethora is?
@@guaporeturns9472 How is it cringe?
@@KG-ds2fj and poor old goebels, has no balls, at all!
Can’t believe a grainy photo of a ship going under is making me cry. RIP old girl
The fact that it took three torpedoes to sink it with plenty of time just shows how well made the ship was. Lusitania went down in less than 20 minutes with just one torpedo and it was HUGE!
You also have to consider that the explosion of the torpedo that struck RMS Lusitania caused a chain reaction that resulted in a second explosion that was larger and more destructive than that of the torpedo.
Lusitania may have sunk more slowly it the bunker wasn’t hit
@@FoxMcCloudV2 The Lusitania was carrying tons of arms and munitions. The secondary explosion was a result of those munitions blowing up.
@@teru797 Yes it was carrying munitions, but no they could not and did not blow up as they were stored no where near the point of impact the were further forward than that, It was most likely a boiler or coal dust explosion that caused the major damage to Lusitania.
True it was just one torpedo but remember that second bigger explosion was what really doomed the Lusitania.
GREAT job Sam! The Carpathia will forever be loved for her role in saving the Titanic's survivors. She was a true lady of the sea.
That she was. I only wish she were still present today. Alongside titans like the Mauretania, the Olympic, ships like those deserved that kind of new lease on life. Neither the largest or most luxurious ship, but she performed above and beyond the call of duty.
@@TheAeroAvatar I wish I could go back in time to when these great ships were in service.
@@drewintampa That really would be something. The ocean liners of that time have a majesty to them totally different from the cruise liners we see today. Not to knock those, but you look at Titanic, Olympic, Mauretania, Normandie, France, Lusitania, Andrea Doria, the United States, the original Queen Elizabeth, the original Queen Mary, they're a whole different breed. And even smaller ships like Carpathia have a quieter elegance to them that must not be forgotten. She served the world well in peacetime and in wartime.
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Poor Carpathia! She raced her hardest and had the engines damaged from it while heading towards Titanic to save as many lives as possible on such a fateful night. Then her fate 6 years later, it was as if she was trying to hold on as long as she could to let all the lifeboats left off in Time. She might be gone but she will NEVER be forgotten. I’m glad Carpathia is at least not scrapped though.
God Bless her and her crew 😢
Actually, she is much less gone than she would've been had she survived the war. Would've almost certainly been foolishly scrapped at some point.
That’s what I said. I said “at least she was not scrapped.
Its just a ship. She didn't do anything. She was just a vessel controled by humans. And everyone on the ship being saved was thanks to the captain, and the laws of physics.
@@Oozaru85 so what if it’s just a ship? The ship could have it’s own spirit as well.
That’s why I said God bless her “and her crew”.
I believe that Oozaru85 doesn't have a Education, EVERYONE know that ships have spirit.
What a very smart Captain. That is so fantastic that he was able to save all the crew that was still alive. R.I.P. to the poor souls who lost their lives. ☮️
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That is one of the ships that I wish had been preserved.
Same here!
Same
How cool if not only it had been preserved but was converted to all first class and function now as a small cruise ship!
Along with the World War II USS Enterprise (CV-6)
@@FlatcapHobbit it would cost more than the actual ship to do that
I've always thought the whole "turn off the heat and hot water, overpressurize the boilers, post extra lookouts, and fire rockets when they got close to give the survivors hope" thing was super badass of Captain Rostron. They could have ended up hitting an iceberg too, and if I recall they didn't have enough lifeboats for all of their passengers either. It must have helped that Carpathia was still moving at under 20 knots even at top speed and was a smaller (and presumably more maneuverable) ship than Titanic.
Yes. Smaller. Slower. More maneuverable.
What Titanic was doing that night was operating as steam ships usually operated. The ocean is wide, dangers are relatively rare. Maintain a sharp lookout but maintain high speed. And not slow down for something you probably won't encounter at all. And if you do, steer around it.
What was not appreciated by the Captain, or by pretty much everyone, was that ships were now becoming bigger and faster and turn more slowly and so that now the old policy was starting to become dangerous. What had worked for many decades of steamship sailings was no longer safe enough.
In addition, Captain Rostron, increased the outside lookouts, on the crow's nest and other places, to seven, to provide maximum observers. Seven times icebergs were seen but all avoided. In none of the seven cases, were any of the outside lookouts the first ones to raise the alarm. In all cases, it was the bridge crew, standing behind glass, sheltered from the wind, that made the first spotting. One would think that glass might interfere with the view, and it would be better to stand in the clear air, but this did not seem to be the case.
Perhaps the Titanic may have done better not to depend on the outside lookouts but to have the best lookout on the bridge. Perhaps they did, I do not know. I do know that on the Titanic, the first warning came from the exposed lookouts, not from those on the bridge. The Carpathia experience hints that this may have been an error. A lookout on the bridge, whose only job was to look ahead, may have helped.
Great story! As a retired seafarer I really appreciate this video. I had heard about RMS Carpathia's role in the Titanic disaster many times over the years but never a whisper about what happened to the Carpathia till now. Such a sad end for a great ship.
The ship that saves titanic survivors. Meets the fate of sinking.
You were absolutely right, Sam, I had not before known of or had considered the eventual fate of the Carpathia, so thank you for the story. Also, I noticed in the photo of the Carpathia's last moments you can actually see, in the lower left corner of the photo, a portion of the U-boat from where the photo was taken.
Exactly
The famous photo of the Carpathia sinking was indeed taken from the U-55. If you look closely at the photo on the far left you’ll see deck gratings that are of the WW1 U-boat design
I wonder that this guy didn't recognize this himself ...
Impressive and honorable ship. So sad to see her fate. Thanks for the video!
Great job Sam! Kudos for the great research and animation. It was fitting that the Carpathia's record of excellence in times of crisis was repeated during her last voyage. She had excellent captains and a very well trained, disciplined crew by all appearances. RIP Carpathia!
She was, in my opinion, a very beautiful ship. She deserved better.
Such a sad ending for an important ship historically speaking. Your videos are always a joy to watch Sam🙂
A ship that served as a hero to one had a valiant end saving all but 5 people who were on board. God bless the Captain who thought outside the box when he heard communications were down. Long Live RMS Carpathia! Also, I love the LEGO ship
You know, a deep dive into Carpathia would be great. The little I’ve been able to dig up shows her to have been a cozy little ship, I certainly wouldn’t mind crossing on her.
The long awaiting video on the sinking of Titanic 's hero.
As with the Britannic, it was lucky that it able to abandon ship with all living souls getting off it before it sink.
30 died on the Britannic as she was not carrying passengers
The HMHS Britannic stuck a mine off of Kea Greece on 21 November 1916 with the loss of 30
Omg this is a dream come true!! I love the RMS Carpathia!
While still a tragedy, it's a miracle that only a small handful of people died during the sinking of Carpathia. Ironic that the rescuer of Titanic's survivors would meet a similar fate
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But the later was "Man Made"...
@@TheSwamynathan titanic was somewhat man made too. Given the negligence and arrogance of those claiming the unsinkable
You know, I never did really wonder about the Carpathia. How crazy is it that it sank as well? Or rather, that it was sunk.
Fantastic job, Sam!
It sunk and was sank
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@@guaporeturns9472 A ship's sinking isn't something to laugh about
The Californian also was sank during ww1. But in the Mediterranean
@@michaelsorber7859yea by two sister U-boats
105 years ago, RMS Carpathia was lost to the waves. It was a hero, and those 5 people who died in the sinking will not be forgotten.
It was a hero? Ships do not have agency. The people involved were heroes. Stop anthropomorphizing.
@@bajskuk Shut Up. All the crew are most certainly heroes and will never be forgotten, but they themselves would think of the ship as something alive, otherwise they wouldn’t call the ship she.
Awesome video Sam! As always, I learned a lot❤
I just recently found your channel ( Sadly because of the tragedy of the Titan submersible). I’ve been doing all kinds of research on the Titanic history and sinking. You do a wonderful job of narrating and telling us about these history events. I subscribed to your channel and look forward to more history lessons, especially maritime history.
Captain sounded like a competent leader. You hear all the time nowadays about ship captains leaving their ships while there’s still passengers aboard.
Thank you so much for making this video. The RMS Carpathia was the ship that brought my great-grandmother over to the U.S after the ship picked up passengers from what was known as Fiume, Austria-Hungary. This was, if I'm not mistaken, just a few months after the Titanic sank. Carpathia was an enormous piece of history. Please keep making these types of videos!
My great grandfather was an assistant doctor on the RMS Carpathia, who saved many people who were on the titanic. I never knew it met the same fate as the titanic, thank you for expanding my knowledge.
So did the Californian.. the ship who was 9 miles - close enough to rescue the Titanic but didn't.
@@joanna7350The Californian would have not been able to do much of a difference…. Although she was in a nearby area. Her speed was only 14 mph. When her radio operator heard about the Titanic’s sinking from the Frankfurt, it took them over 2 hours to reach the disaster site. It took the Titanic 2 hours and 40 minutes to sink. And it wasn’t fully know that the Titanic was sinking until about a half hour after the iceberg collsion.
So yeah…
I had discovered Historic Travels roughly a week ago and have been watching atleast one video a night since. I find this channel is not only factual and historically accurate, but the Lengths Sam puts into these videos is phenomenal. Aswell the past and present video format has been the same aswell as Sam's unwaivering enthusiasm towards his audience and making these videos.
There’s surprisingly very little content about Carpathia’s sinking. Glad you gave us this awesome video!
I love your videos Sam they are awesome!
Congratulations, you were the first comment on this video and you didn't say first
Thanks for sharing all those fascinating details about RMS Carpathia, Sam. I knew the ship sank, but did not realize it did so as the result of being torpedoed.
I was aware RMS Carpathia was found a few years ago, but I knew nothing of her sad end. So hearing this story I must admit I was gobsmacked. What a sad and tragic end to a historical ship. This story now completes my Titanic knowledge, even though I'm sure there are many more stores. But this fills in many empty spaces that I was unaware of. I have often wondered, if RMS Carpathia had survived the war, how many more years at sea she would have had in her. Interesting thought eh? Again, thank you ever so much for adding to my knowledge of a most historical ship.
Two torpedos and it still didn’t sink right away. Thats honestly impressive
Carpathia was also the ship that my grandfather Walter E Seaborn and his 210 Canadian battalion travelled on to Europe in April 1917. I inherited a number of photos taken on board that voyage. I did find some deck plans and was able to make an accurate RC model of it over one of the recent covid winters. I have to say though, that I was appalled seeing the large number of livestock stalls which were a feature in Carpathia as a result of its intended passengers, that is carrying rural immigrant folk from the Carpathian coast. It was certain to be a perfect vessel for the transport of troops who were destined for the trenches of Europe.
It's horrible that all these beautiful ocean liners have sunk, but it's more horrible that the rest were scrapped. Only the Rex remain of all those beautiful ships.
😲 I had absolutely no idea that was how she ended up. I'm feeling a lot of different things right now...but mostly sad. She definitely deserved better.
Been waiting on this for awhille, thanks for the great video!
Thanks. I already knew that the Carpathia sank, but her sinking is still heartbreaking. Her wreck is also very damaged!
I knew for a while that the fate of the RMS Carpathia was that it sank but it wasn't until now that I knew how it happened. Great vid as always
Damn good ship that'll never be forgotten.
She will always be remembered as a hero being absolutely mad about the Titanic she will always be apart of my interest and have a special place
Hello Sam, Watching from Switzerland 🇨🇭
A sad end for a famous ship but to be able to save all living souls was a happy ending. A pity about the five though, rest in peace.
A very interesting video, thank you 👍
It was a miracle that the loss of life wasn’t as big as Titanic’s was. The R.M.S Carpathia was a great ship that no only saved the survivors of Titanic but severed Great during its time. Great video 👍🏻
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Apparently there was a show case in the saloons with medals and silver cups presented to the Carpathia for her role in the Titanic disaster, I wonder if this was removed as war broke out or I hope not on board when she was sunk.
It's still a ship but Carpathia, thank you for your service and RIP.
As always…thank you Sam! Some of this I knew. Appreciate your fine content. Looking forward to hearing from you next time!
Good video Sam
It is telling that Wilhem Werner is pictured in a WW2 SS uniform - tells us all we need to know about him.
I am impressed with your ship models! Sometimes, I find it funny when you pick them up!
Better for the Carpathia to go down in battle than in a "breakers yard" It seems that both the Titanic and Carpathia were both slow to give up the surface. Great watch Sam.....
Also the Titanic sister Britannic she sank also
Very interesting! Thanks for the information :D
Captain Rostron would have been proud of his successor's actions no doubt.
Yeah
If you look at the the other ships involved in the Titanic story, a large number of them met their ends in WWI, not just Carpathia. Californian, which ignored Titanic's distress signals, was torpedoed. Titanic's sister ship, Brittanic, struck a mine and sank. Oceanic, which Titanic nearly collided with when leaving port, hit a reef while evading U-boats and sank.
The Californian didn’t literally ignore them. The radio operator was already asleep before the distress call went out. Also, the the timing of the rockets wasn’t proper, which confused the Californian’s deck officers.
Great work as always! Very well made video.
It's nice to see you collaborating with other Maritime content creators : )
Credit to the Captain and his Officers for doing their duty and skillfully and successfully getting all the survivors off safely.
What a fascinating story! Never knew the poor Carpathia sank too 😢such a heroic story that deserves to be told… thank you for being her voice ❤
The Carpathia is very special to me because my great great grandfather traveled on her to Liverpool where he met my great great grandmother and on their honey moon they traveled on her to the Mediterranean
That is so wonderful to hear ❤ Just reading this made me go into happy tears 😊 Cunard was so lucky at the time to have a ship like her.
The fact that is ship went down like Titanic did makes it so sad.
I am glad you made a video about this even though I had already known about this for years
Such a sad fate this ship had went through I knew a few things about this ship but not all love you're videos
Another Great Video!
RMS Carpathia: I followed her race to save the lives on the Titanic. Her captain was so well organized. He took her full steam ahead until hr encountered the ice field.If the California (?spelling) had strpped up she could probably have saved more lives. thank you for sharing,
I'm new to your channel, been watching the titanic series u have and came across this one. I'm saddened that such a tragic end came of this hero ship
A great video, Sam. I honestly didn`t know that much about the Carpathia other than she rescued the Titanic survivors. I did however know that she sunk, I just didn`t know how, or why
Carpathia was a warrior, even 4 hrs late she help titanic survivors.
You put on a good little documentary. Thank you!
If you look at Wilhelm Werner's record and his 'achievements' (killing survivors, sinking a hospital ship etc.) we may have a pretty good idea of what his intentions were. The odd thing here is why he was so patient during the evacuation. However, due to his 'patience' or whatever, HMS Snowdrop luckily had time to turn up and probably saved a lot of lives as a result.
I didnt know he did that, looks like my instincts were accurate. I had a feeling he may have been like that due to the fact he torpedoed Carpathia 3 times. Then after that he began to move his uboat toward the survivors.
@@HistoricTravels He was certainly a monster
Not to say anything about this specific U-boat captain, but firing 3 torpedoes (2 in an initial spread and a finishing shot afterward) is completely normal in submarine warfare.
In fact, I'd wager he specifically waited for the evacuation to be complete before finishing the ship off.
He may have been a monster, I don't know. But in this case, his actions are not only fairly standard, they're all consistent more with a U-boat captain trying to minimise loss of life rather than worsen it.
A truly ruthless U-boat captain would have either fired a larger spread (eg 3 or 4 torpedoes) for a quick sinking, or fired a third torpedo or used his deck gun to finish the ship off within minutes, then chased some of the other fleeing ships in the convoy.
If anything, for a U-boat captain, Werner was very patient and lacked aggression in his pursuit of this convoy and sinking
Now for anyone not familiar with U-boats and submarine warfare, the reason you would generally never fire just 1 torpedo come down to 3 factors:
1) U-boats are very slow underwater, generally around 5-7 knots. Half the speed or less of even a merchant vessel. They rely on the element of surprise, as once a ship is aware of them, it is much harder to hit said ship. This means you have generally one chance to hit a ship with torpedoes (unless you commit to a lengthy chase and repositioning for another attack, which could take hours to days). This means the pressure is on to ensure a hit
2) torpedoes are relatively difficult to aim and often miss due to imperfect calculations. If you need to guarantee a hit, firing 1 torpedo is too risky. You will generally fire what is known as a spread - a set of 2-4 or even 6 torpedoes, staggered into a fan pattern to cover a larger area, to ensure at least some hit and that they hit the ship in multiple areas.
3) torpedoes have a high rate of failure and even without failure, a single torpedo often will not sink a large ship at this time period. For this and the above reasons, you can't rely on just one being fired.
All this added up means it's standard practise to fire a spread of 2-6 torpedoes at targets, because many will miss or fail, or fail to sink the ship.
Werner's actions here are therefore not unusual at all, and in fact I would be surprised if he didn't fire MORE torpedoes in his initial attack (maybe 3 or 4), of which only 2 hit
@@Tom--Ace Yeah but that doesn't change the fact that after sinking ships he killed some survivors
He joined the Nazi Party in 1930 and the SS and became a Brigadier General serving on Himmlers personal staff. This guy was definitely a monster
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just ran across you when the Titan went missing and you were posting updates. I liked your updates because you didn't hype everything up or clickbait the public you just gave the info you had and a little knowledge also. So this video popped up and here I be. Nice video to the point, no assumptions and delivered clearly. I will Subscribe. Have a good evening and know you are doing good work.
Excellent Video Presentation! Very interesting and informative.
From start to finish, your videos always glue me to the screen!
What a terrible end to such a heroic ship. 😢
take a shot every time Sam says "slowly but surely" XD
Or he waves the model into the camera.
Carpathia should have been in a museum .
Very . very informative. Never knew her fate. Thanks for posting all this information.
Excellent video
Sad ending for 12:19 valiant ship but so glad majority escaped
Thank Sam
Excellent video
Great video Sam. I've been listening to all your vids while being at work. You've been educating and entertaining me as I grind away at my job.
nice video sam, i really enjoyed it
Sam: “Uboats were under a lot of pressure.” Me: “Literally.” Carpathia just doing her duty. Great Cpt as well.
Quite informative Video Sam, Thanks very much..
Very cool video! Wasn't aware of the fate of the Carpathia. Thanks!
Great story-telling - many thanks.
I am not sure how it was in WW1 but in WW2 german submarines usually gave the surviors the direction to the closest coast and some food, there is even a story of a submarine towing life rafts in order to safe the people.
Can't say that about Wilhelm Werner
@@KG-ds2fj No but Reinhard Hardegen was one of them.
@@JazzJaRa Okay then.Just saying that if you look up Wilhelm Werner you are gonna have to deal with strong anger and disgust after finding out what horrific and evil things he's done.
I always wondered what happened to the RMS Carpathia after the Titanic incident. Awesome report!!!
Carpathia truly was a hero ship. She not only managed to save over 700 lives from the Titanic, but also managed to save over 200 more of her own passengers and crew by staying afloat long enough for them to safely evacuate the ship. She also saved the lives of the crew on board the other ships in the convoy when she was struck by the torpedoes. If she hadn't used flag signals to alert the other ships, they may have suffered a similar fate as Carpathia making the loss of life much higher. It's sad that she isn't more famous for everything she did and the number of lives she's saved.
I take a drink every time Sam says slowly but surely
Great video Sam.
It is so sad that RMS Carpathia was sunk. She should be in a museum. So strange how many of the ships that had a connection with RMS Titanic sank, except her big sister RMS Olympic. 😉🇬🇧🇺🇦
Yes The Titanic sank Britannic sank Lusitania sank Carpathia sank and even Californian sank
Man your channel must have boomed with the ocean gate nonsense. Great I'm happy more people are watching your content.
phenomenal
video , you have a new subscriber and thank you to the youtube algorithm !
Thank you so much for this informative video,i knew that it sank but was not aware of what had happened exactly.
Why didn't you talk about the Carpathia's sinking in your Carpathia series?
Carpathia was a great ship hands down. Hey Sam today it was reported that a Megaladon tooth necklace was found at the Titanic wreck. And the SS United States may be facing eviction from Philadelphia.
Carpathia is my favorite ship in general from saving Cunard from near bankruptcy from saving the survivors of Titanic and she just looks beautiful one funned liners are so stylish
Cunard*
I always liked this ship. She had a nice, clean look to her.