I still cannot believe to this day that there are people who read this book or watched this movie and thought to themselves afterwards, "That's a great dad. I want to be a parent just like that guy."
You obviously didn't see far into this. Bull is a father who deep down in his heart actually does love his family dearly, but the marines engraved in him that love is a sign of weakness.
@@movie-mandan The only reason you would post that comment is because you are either trying to defend Bull, or trying to defend fathers who want to be like him. Either way, I hope you don't have kids.
@@thejanitor3337 I actually watched the entire movie. You obviously do not see layers and nuances in any movie ever. Probably did not even finish watching this entire flick.
@@antoinemilien6864 Bull is a mean person engulfed in his marine expertise which is why he is despicable. The whole point of the movie is to see a bad human go through nuances and changes, eventually him realizing that somewhere deep down, he does love his family, much to everyone's surprise.
Believe it or not i had not seen this film until when it was recently shown on tcm thought it was really good and just found it at goodwill today. Why us classic movie lovers love channels like tcm so many forgotten classics.
You're so lucky to have just seen this incredible film for the first time recently. I'm 47 yrs old and saw it with my family when I was around 7 or 8 years old. Forty years ago and it's still one of my favorites with Robert Duvall. ❤Mom made Chicken Divine. Parents on the bed, kids in sleeping bags on each side. No eating while the mushroom soup prank went on. 😂
Duvall is always great-but he is matched or outdone by O'keefe. They were both up for Oscars. O'keefe deserved one for this, and it should have led to more dramatic roles for him. A shame it did not. I think James Dean was great. But- I think that O'keefe is a match for him in this scene,
My childhood too... Did you too 'serve' under a Marine Corp Officer parent? I never imagined others went thru this kind of toxic childhood until I read Conroy's The Great Santini. I never served in the military. But I sometimes refer to my childhood as 'My Military Service"...
Clyde G I understand. Maybe read the book by Pat Conroy. Now that we are out of that tornado, it all is pretty funny stuff. I like to think it made me stronger in some way.
@@fastmail55 EXACTLY! We served also, but no one thanks us. We didn't volunteer....Army lifestyle moving every six months to year can really mess a person up. Now no one even knows what we gave up. It makes it worse when you have to hear "thanks for your service!" routinely said to a person who used to remind you daily of what a waste of space you are...This is the only movie to show someone what our life was like and make them "get it" about the "strict dads" we had at home.I wonder if it helps or hurts to let others know...some part of me is so ashamed, you know? No one but you guys could ever understand this.
@@LyndaLand Yes... And the self esteem destroying harsh words were not the only weapons used on us. Razor straps, the buckle end of a belt, and Dad's favorite, an unraveled wire coat hanger. Even after leaving the Corps, we found though the man could be taken out of the Corps, one could not take the Corps out of the man. After Dad left the Corps, he ran his own crop dusting business. I was one of the family indentured serfs so summers were spent sweeping out airplane hangars and washing pre EPA insecticide off our planes which were, so appropriately, military surplus Stearman biplanes. I often wonder as an aging adult if all that exposure to some seriously caustic chemicals as a child caused some medical issues later on. Dad had my older brother hand propping our planes to get them started; our planes mostly did not have starters as a weight saving measure. Even as a child I thought what kind of parent has his son turn the propeller of a airplane risking serious injury or death?! Ah well, what doesn't kill you makes you tougher right Dad? Semper Fi Dad...
I like to think that this is the moment when Meechum realizes that his son is not a coward, and that he has chosen to disobey him and endure his wrath because he stood up for what he believed was right. Here is where he begins the long journey of accepting his son for who he really is, and comes to terms with the fact that Ben will never succeed by being like him; he will have to do it on his own terms in his own way. The tragedy is that just as he's beginning to see this, he gets killed.
Agreed. He loves his family, but struggles to show it in a healthy way. He's a career Marine officer and a combat veteran. My guess is he has some wicked PTSD. He's not a perfect father, but who amongst us is? We do the best we can.
This movie traumatized me as I kid not because of the guy because of the dogs can someone please tell me those dog actors lived a full healthy life. did that really need to be in the movie? it’s so grotesquely off putting its like old yeller Times 12
Jet-set sam yeah they guy that was bullying the black man that befriended Ben the santinis son was killed by a gunshot accidentally shot by the bully who intentionally was aiming at his dogs
Red shot a few of Tumor's dogs then Tumor released the rest of his dogs and they in turn killed Red. Graphic as hell. I viewed this flick when it was released in Beaufort in 1979 @ age 5. Very intense movie. A must watch...
This movie Santni is sick... imagine living with some ass hole jarhead like this santni character... You boots give this crybaby Santni a blanket party.....
I survived from this toxic behavior! I swore I would not be the same type of dad... unfortunately my behavior was also toxic! I had no capacity to understand how I could repeat such behavior with my wife and kids. When my wife and kids left me, I was left in a state of disbelief... how could this have happened?? I attended AA thinking it was the family alcoholism but I discovered it was a deeper issue! I lacked emotional sobriety! So I started attending treatment for my Childhood CPTSD. I'm currently 2.5 years into EMDR/EGO State therapy and I'm reparenting my inner child that was physically and verbally abused by my father. I'm also learning to quiet my inner critic and heal from the toxic shame that has plagued my life since childhood.
I still cannot believe to this day that there are people who read this book or watched this movie and thought to themselves afterwards, "That's a great dad. I want to be a parent just like that guy."
You obviously didn't see far into this. Bull is a father who deep down in his heart actually does love his family dearly, but the marines engraved in him that love is a sign of weakness.
@@movie-mandan The only reason you would post that comment is because you are either trying to defend Bull, or trying to defend fathers who want to be like him.
Either way, I hope you don't have kids.
@@thejanitor3337 I actually watched the entire movie. You obviously do not see layers and nuances in any movie ever. Probably did not even finish watching this entire flick.
@@movie-mandan And it's very obvious that you missed the shortcomings of Bull. What a waste.
@@antoinemilien6864 Bull is a mean person engulfed in his marine expertise which is why he is despicable.
The whole point of the movie is to see a bad human go through nuances and changes, eventually him realizing that somewhere deep down, he does love his family, much to everyone's surprise.
Believe it or not i had not seen this film until when it was recently shown on tcm thought it was really good and just found it at goodwill today. Why us classic movie lovers love channels like tcm so many forgotten classics.
You're so lucky to have just seen this incredible film for the first time recently. I'm 47 yrs old and saw it with my family when I was around 7 or 8 years old. Forty years ago and it's still one of my favorites with Robert Duvall. ❤Mom made Chicken Divine. Parents on the bed, kids in sleeping bags on each side. No eating while the mushroom soup prank went on. 😂
Incredible performance by Duvall and O’Keefe! 👏🏻
Duvall is always great-but he is matched or outdone by O'keefe. They were both up for Oscars. O'keefe deserved one for this, and it should have led to more dramatic roles for him. A shame it did not. I think James Dean was great. But- I think that O'keefe is a match for him in this scene,
Hey! Stan Shaw played his part well too!!!
The book still crushes it.
He said Toomer can take care of himself... Go back to the car and Toomer laid out dead.
Ah, my childhood.
My childhood too... Did you too 'serve' under a Marine Corp Officer parent? I never imagined others went thru this kind of toxic childhood until I read Conroy's The Great Santini. I never served in the military. But I sometimes refer to my childhood as 'My Military Service"...
yeah i keep hearing about this movie and i straight up dont think i could watch this based on the clips... its too close to home.
Clyde G I understand. Maybe read the book by Pat Conroy. Now that we are out of that tornado, it all is pretty funny stuff. I like to think it made me stronger in some way.
@@fastmail55 EXACTLY! We served also, but no one thanks us. We didn't volunteer....Army lifestyle moving every six months to year can really mess a person up. Now no one even knows what we gave up. It makes it worse when you have to hear "thanks for your service!" routinely said to a person who used to remind you daily of what a waste of space you are...This is the only movie to show someone what our life was like and make them "get it" about the "strict dads" we had at home.I wonder if it helps or hurts to let others know...some part of me is so ashamed, you know? No one but you guys could ever understand this.
@@LyndaLand Yes... And the self esteem destroying harsh words were not the only weapons used on us. Razor straps, the buckle end of a belt, and Dad's favorite, an unraveled wire coat hanger. Even after leaving the Corps, we found though the man could be taken out of the Corps, one could not take the Corps out of the man. After Dad left the Corps, he ran his own crop dusting business. I was one of the family indentured serfs so summers were spent sweeping out airplane hangars and washing pre EPA insecticide off our planes which were, so appropriately, military surplus Stearman biplanes. I often wonder as an aging adult if all that exposure to some seriously caustic chemicals as a child caused some medical issues later on. Dad had my older brother hand propping our planes to get them started; our planes mostly did not have starters as a weight saving measure. Even as a child I thought what kind of parent has his son turn the propeller of a airplane risking serious injury or death?! Ah well, what doesn't kill you makes you tougher right Dad? Semper Fi Dad...
He never gives up
I love Robert Duvall
Anyone who loos up to the father in this movie needs help...
Always makes me cry😢
This movie was hard to get through as a big fan of the book. It just moved way too fast and lacked the nuances of all the great characters
One of the few movies that’s better than the book
oh you have got to be kidding
What? One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest film is a lot better than the book. So is Planet of the Apes (1968); The Godfather; Ordinary People.
No way
I mean, I'd say it's AS good, but not better.
So in the book is Toomer already dead when the scene happens btwn Ben and his Dad or does the movie take license with it?
Toomer already died, yes.
I like to think that this is the moment when Meechum realizes that his son is not a coward, and that he has chosen to disobey him and endure his wrath because he stood up for what he believed was right. Here is where he begins the long journey of accepting his son for who he really is, and comes to terms with the fact that Ben will never succeed by being like him; he will have to do it on his own terms in his own way. The tragedy is that just as he's beginning to see this, he gets killed.
Damn a channel with 11 mill and one 3k views wtf lmfao
array s when I first checked it said it was posted 13 years ago lol this is a good movie i remember seeing it when I was like 10
11 mill? try 49.3 Million. Incredible.
Military man always engaged NCS Sidi Yahia, Morocco
I think Bull was just misunderstood
Agreed. He loves his family, but struggles to show it in a healthy way. He's a career Marine officer and a combat veteran. My guess is he has some wicked PTSD. He's not a perfect father, but who amongst us is? We do the best we can.
This movie traumatized me as I kid not because of the guy because of the dogs can someone please tell me those dog actors lived a full healthy life. did that really need to be in the movie? it’s so grotesquely off putting its like old yeller Times 12
Joseph Jones I never seen this morning what happened to that guy did he die or something
Jet-set sam yeah they guy that was bullying the black man that befriended Ben the santinis son was killed by a gunshot accidentally shot by the bully who intentionally was aiming at his dogs
Red shot a few of Tumor's dogs then Tumor released the rest of his dogs and they in turn killed Red. Graphic as hell. I viewed this flick when it was released in Beaufort in 1979 @ age 5. Very intense movie. A must watch...
@Rough Collies Rock the author Pat Conroy still lives in Beaufort and has written other classics.
@@kristopherwalker7686 No I think he died a while back.
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This movie Santni is sick...
imagine living with some ass hole jarhead like this santni character...
You boots give this crybaby Santni a blanket party.....
My high school girlfriend walked out of this movie in a very upset mood. Her father was just as big an a-hole as Lt. Col. Meechum.
@@rr7firefly he always reminded me of my neighbor’s dad, an AF sergeant. Was so thankful for my own dad.
@@lizr9894 It is always a blessing not to have a loudmouthed abusive bully for a father. We are both fortunate in that way.
I survived from this toxic behavior! I swore I would not be the same type of dad... unfortunately my behavior was also toxic!
I had no capacity to understand how I could repeat such behavior with my wife and kids.
When my wife and kids left me, I was left in a state of disbelief... how could this have happened??
I attended AA thinking it was the family alcoholism but I discovered it was a deeper issue!
I lacked emotional sobriety! So I started attending treatment for my Childhood CPTSD.
I'm currently 2.5 years into EMDR/EGO State therapy and I'm reparenting my inner child that was physically and verbally abused by my father. I'm also learning to quiet my inner critic and heal from the toxic shame that has plagued my life since childhood.
Amazing insight and congratulations on your growth
Wow 11 m subs I am 1st comment
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Ugh his blubbering is awful.
In real life, blubbering looks awful
He did great-was realistic-got an oscar nomination for this.