One thing is the loose ball logic is crazy. They can't be saying this is realistic though, players be fumbling with the ball like it's hot potato. Just let me catch the ball on rebounds and let my speed determine if I get the loose ball. OAN: They gotta change they way the ball bounces down the court too. If a loose ball bounces down the court it should drastically lose speed every time it bounces on the court. Players can't catch up with the loose ball is totally unrealistic
The random animations leads to inconsistent gameplay. You can’t accurately play good defense when you or your opponent gets an animation that defies logic in any given circumstances.
The catch animations are the worse of any 2k. You catch the pass at the 3pt line and it carries you all the way outta bounds. What reality do players do this? 🤦🏾♂️
Stats mean nothing badges are useless. If I have a 88 interior D and 97 strength, a big with 87 post control and 85 strength shouldn’t be able to back me down
@Earlysbird no. Strength is Strength. No matter the size. Not realistic. As a lockdown ive been backed all the way under the goal with a 92 Strength with 93 Interior d by Guys with 80 Strength. Wemby cant back down Draymond or PJ Tucker
my thing is, if my perimeter and steal are higher then these dribble spammers ball handle, the odds should be a little higher for me. sometimes they run right into you and don’t lose it
@goodiegoodiegumdrops Nah just animations you can't react to or interact with, random ankle breakers, etc. It's always best to account for things out of your control so you can focus more on what you can
Bro facts and its crazy steal rating just effects how often the foul is called and gives you just a tad bit more sense of urgency but overall its all RNG lmao
You are still AVOIDING to address loose ball animations. Is that not rng? What about offense getting the ball back right away after a block? Or the pass receiver magically gets dragged and animation locked out of bounds from high pass accuracy passer? Are those not rng?
Hes not completely wrong , call me crazy but almost every time my center has a super free easy board w no one around him , game gives a crazy rebound that goes out of bounds
It's like that with passes as well. 96 Steal with interceptor in the passing lane, coming right at you, and majority of the time it gets tapped out of bounds.
I agree with most of the comment section. I don’t know what you got going on Tutes. If it’s not RNG then what is it? Explain how a person can shoot lights out one game and then the very next game it’s like why even bother putting up a shot regardless of whether it’s RNG or not 2K is definitely playing God with our gameplay somehow someway. He just needs to leave the game alone plain and simple. There was nothing wrong with 24 shooting. They just needed to make a few minor adjustments. Why change the game completely then get mad when people are on your head about how trash the game is the next year.
Tutes is cool and helpful, but there's only so much offline testing you can do as one man compared to what thousands of people experience in online games where every situation is different. What's funnier is seeing people do the whole "get better, learn your shot, it's not the game it's you," where virtually every no life pro player is complaining about the same thing since day 1 lmao.
RNG is a copout for a lack of skill in 90% of situations. Even as I'm playing I'll hear people cry out "C'mon 2K!!!" For something that was 100% their fault and could've been avoided if they made a smarter decision. Don't get me wrong, there's definitely things 2K is terrible at as it pertains to animations and certain physics during gameplay, but too many people don't take any accountability for the role they play in a lot of what they don't do well.
RNG on interior defense...also you get different defensive intensity based on the gameplay mode. Theaters hands up defense is much better than say the rec. There are several times where I'm holding RS completely up and my man refused to put his hand vertical. He's stuck in a perimeter defensive hands up stance instead of two hands up in or he'll put his hands up but dont close the gap of space in-between. It's almost like the game can't tell interior defense versus perimeter defense which animation is best to be used based on court positioning
I agree. I hold my hands up and my character stutters forcing my hands down or doesn’t put my hands up at all half the time. I think giant slayer is in the game just not in the form of a badge. More noticeable in the rec
I agree but so far I say the contest in starting 5 games is the worse every shot interior or 3 in there is ALWAYS wide open, open, or light pressured no matter what it is and its a little more delayed in there so that doesn’t help I’m also 25-5 in there and guard everybody I play so ik from experience
I started to think this guy is getting paid by 2k at this point. 2k24 defense is a way way way better than 2k25, is no even close. The player movement, the control over your player, the contest, everything is better
@ i give u 100proc its you mate … i play lock with 75 3s and my shooting is 73% and i play pro am …. Using high risk also, if you play high risk and u missing like this its only u …
Rng is never a good thing. ever. literally no arguement for it besides helping out bad players or players with horrible internet. Rng produces outcome that don’t make sense/shouldn’t happen. But they leave it in to cater towards the majority of there consumers who are trash at the game
When I’m shooting I never take all my shots at the 3pt at most if I green 2-3 in a row I’ll take like 2 mid range shots or layups to reset the timings for my 3pt shot then just repeat it works well for me most games if not I’ll just take more 2’s that game and I’m 137-16 in the city right now in all 1v1 games so I think ik what I’m tb to a certain extent
well, you can get "sucked in" to the person you're defending, you're stuck into animations, sometimes you can get out of it by hitting L2. Dunno if i would call this RNG, but its pretty annoying when the game does things for you.. The game used to make your guy jump if you used hands up defense and someone did a pump fake, it was automatic, ppl complained and they patched it..
you definitely get pulled forward or pulled to the side even when you’re going a opposite way when someone spamming dribble moves and sometimes you get that stuck in mode animation where its seems like out of nowhere your player hit a wall and I noticed this the most when I’m playing bigger players thats for sure slower than me
I read comments on multiple videos. Saying players are bad, this and that. Players just complaining. I can’t speak for anyone else. I’m fine in every aspect of 2K25 until I play “The City”. Then all of a sudden I can’t do anything. I’m trash on 2v2, 3v3, and REC. Yet I play well in every single other mode. 90% of my shots are bad shot selection, slightly early, or slightly late. I’m literally losing games due to the amount of “open” shots missed. A wide open dunk or lay up is missed due to poor shot selection. But according to some comments, that’s on me as a player. Yet others hit shots in my face as if I’m not playing any defense. While I constantly miss wide open shots. Based upon my badges, attributes, and shot selection. I should go 10/10.
The only issue with perimeter defense is that shot contests don't register because they broke the system and sometimes your hand doesn't even go up when you're holding the right analog stick on defense to contest shots
Idk bru I feel like a having 99 perimeter and 96 steal(legend everything) doesn’t matter because you play good defense it stills say open and on ball steals just doesn’t feel the same anymore unless that them guarding u 😂🤦🏾♂️
The problem with todays players is, 1. If you played 2k before psn5. Where you can shoot 70% for 3 or dunk 95 %. The game is fun. 2. Players want to play with aa real player with a arcade feel 3. Lack of IQ 4. Most playing from 2k20 to todays game, probably never played real basketball within a team concept 4. Todays real basketball has changed over the years and those rhat watch young kobies era, have a different basketball understanding then those in todays era 2k has change with real basketball. Kobie made his points thru dunks and midrange. Curry and this era has made point thur the 3ball. Players want to shoot like curry, but doesn't realize he is only shooting 45%, and the want that 70% shooting
even curry went 0 for 7 a few nights ago. Preople also forget that, a couple 2ks ago, centers would rarely shoot more that 3 shots a game because your average person was making 70% of their 3s. It was toxic af and waaaayyyy less fun.
@@ThaFlyDutchmanI don’t think people are as upset about shooting 50% instead of 70. It’s more of you don’t have complete control of the game like you did last year. They destroyed layups. Finishing overall is just broken. My team and I every year beat teams by 30+ year after year but this year it’s rare.
@@jacksonfindley205 this is the issue. You don't control the outcome. If shooting was difficult but there was the chance to make your shot 100% of the time, then that's fine, but there isn't. Who are these players that want to play like its real life that the op is saying though? Because no pro streams, no casual streams I'm seeing have asked for that lmao. It's a video game. Guess what? They don't have badges in real life either lmao.
Oh I get it, if you are not winning then the game is bad. So should you make every layup or dunk for fixing controlling the game as you put it. Think about it from 2k making the most realistic game possible. How many dunks do you see in an NBA game? I bet you see more open layups then the dunk period goes in.
@@blake38100 I’m saying there is no skill gap to finishing. At all. Last year scoops and floaters were much more effective. I’m not upset about not winning. I’m still winning 70% of my games lol. I’m just saying 90% of players drive to the rim and hold x with real player % on. That’s not a skill gap at all
Just had 42 my first game 5-7 from 3 second game in a tight one I went 1-9 on open shots with a 99 3 then my center with a 99 pass accuracy throws the ball out of Bounds 3 times in a row in the clutch on the break it felt like 2k was in control then next game things back to normal . It’s like they be changing the sliders or ratings mid game. Is that rng 🤔
Also Tutes no offense… but your “tests” in free play blacktop do not resemble the rng or momentum that is in a game. Ur comparing offline freeplay vs online momentum/scripting/rng.
the RNG part that I'm testing on blacktop is pretty much a YES or NO only so it doesn't matter if they are not exactly the same to Online. I'm not testing for frequency. I'm not testing momentum and scripting btw.
@@Anonymous-tr6pc exactly this tutes needs to make a video about how bad the game is and how no one likes it take a stand and have a back bone to the worst 2k ever
@@talismansquires4352 it depends on what you are testing. As mentioned on my other comment at the top, I'm looking for a YES or NO answer on the series of tests on that ON Ball blow by aspect of the game only. THe only thing I'm looking for is "will it be random? or not". Since I'm not looking for the actual frequency, it's okay to test on blacktop
They aren't going to like the truth, Tutes. You're gonna have people that want to keep being delusional and ignore the facts. It makes them feel better...it's how they cope.
I can literally go 4/4 from three then the next game 1/7 as if i can't time my shot and ppl look at me like I can't shoot. If it's not RNG it's definitely Mike Wang playing God with our jumpers. I've noticed that guys with higher win% they get better animations for loose balls rebounds and steals where as lower win% guys get the low end of stick in animations.
Goto any video of me using shot aiming LEGIT on 2k and you’d understand how precise I am, I’m not special I just practice ALOT! I know my shots and I can’t shoot above 50% In games.
Ngl i felt that rebounding subject, my 94 rebound build is getting more boards than 99 rebound build with legend rebound chaser and legend box out beast with same height and vertical at 7 ft. It sometimes feels crazy to go out of the way to make your build with legend badges, but you are not rewarded as youre supposed to be.
Point out the moment where he's defending the game. He isn't. He's just tryna make sure people are getting mad at the right thing, which is SLIDERS, not RNG The game definitely has it's issues, but everyone's having to put up with it. If you're losing all the time, then that's all on you
Tutes, can you explain how me shooting perfectly 50% from 3 and mid range over 500 games. Not being able to exceed that mark no matter what I do. This became more obvious when they made shooting easier! That’s when percentages went up, but they get capped out as you approach 50% and then factor in human error. You get 46% or 48%, for the field and the 3pt line. That isn’t normal if you are improving at the game, especially not when you’ve mastered your shot. It’s only online that it happens! You can’t replicate it offline, I’m telling you this it cannot be refuted.
@OTFKami a lot of it is shot selections. People take some of the dumbest shots on 2k. If there is a defender on you don't shoot it. If he's in close out range on a catch and shoot don't shoot it lol.
With all do respect tutes, from a player who plays this game every day for hours, the RNG in shooting is blatantly obvious, ive mastered my jump shot timing to the point that I can tell you if I'm slightly early or slightly late before I even read the feedback. So to have a game where I shoot 100% then the very next game shoot 0% all wide opens shots mind you, there is a serious problem at hand. 2k will never just admit they put out a bad product. 😞
If Tutes says it’s all bad, we’d stop playing and then he’d stop getting paid off our engagement. Go and play 24 for an hour and there’s no way you can say 25 isn’t just a random bunch of animations and RNG
Don't think about RNG as a pure dice roll like at a casino. Let's think of it as a dice roll in dungeons and dragons with a bunch of modifiers on the result. Yes, there is some randomness, but some of the randomness is taken away by ratings and badges etc.
If no rng means big men will go face up at the 3 again I’m all for it. Tired of losing to bigs cause my big wanted to sit paint for a “board”. As far as shooting. No one is really out here taking contested shots so if I miss open/wide open and definitely know my shot then the opponents badge shouldn’t even matter
I usually rock with tutes but I literally went 5/5 from the three in the rec and the very next game went 0/8. My worst shooting game in my 8 years of playing. Legend set shot. It’s real.
I’m not invalidating your experience, the only point im trying to point out on the video is that whatever you are experiencing, it’s not because or RNG. It’s something else.
Just play the game and you’ll see the luck involved. Offense beats the defense and has a wide open layup, it’s likely to get chased down and blocked. Defense stays in front of a dribble spammer and they’ll probably never lose the ball even when they sprint right into the defender. There is little to no skill in the game
Let’s call it what it is. 2k has the most ignorant, excuse ridden & toxic community. So much blind hatred, ego & lack of accountability. It gets worse and worse as the years go on. This year the community seems extra intolerable. Tutes calling it out in the most polite way the last couple vids.
Man, I feel ever since that last update right before the beginning of season three it ruined the game now everybody can make these outrageous shots. You got people hitting very late slightly early very early. It’s ridiculous. Usually, I used to truck through some of the BS because it wasn’t that bad in other games. It’s been so bad since that update. I almost literally thought about retiring for a little bit and I never felt that way about this at all so that’s how I know this is terrible.😂💯
Good work man can you do a test on when set shot and shifty activate depending on movement bcus sometimes they both proc but sometimes it's one over the other even when my player isn't moving much - sometimes I get shifty on a "quick stop"
RNG isn’t the correct term but it fits the issues being said because there’s SO MUCH RANDOMNESS & FLUKEY STUFF IN THE GAME. There are LITERAL ALGORITHMS in the coding with letting games get close or having people come back in the game. YOU CANNOT REFUTE THAT. THIS HAS BEEN IN THE GAME AS FAR AS 2K11 that i know of... literally just play HOF mycareer it’s the same type of cheesy shit going on in the ENTIRE GAME. If you play on HOF difficulty you know what i’m talking about. Game will intentionally bullshit you just to get the other team a chance at winning. EVEN THE SHOOTING. MISSING GREENS ON 16 is RNG. “FULL WHITES” from 19 & 20 are those SAME MISSED GREENS (RNG). There is randomness in the animations as well you NEVER get consistent animations for any action in the game that’s not dribbling. And even if those are consistent HALF THE TIME YOU CANT CONTROL YOUR PLAYER. You try to dunk they make you layup when WIDE OPEN but other times you’re dunking on 3 defenders. Some games ur RANDY MOSS in the passing lanes and other games you can’t catch a 3 foot pass. You can’t put your hand up on defense sometimes. Regardless if it’s RNG or sliders dude you cannot deny this game is by far MECHANICALLY BROKEN. like suuupppperrrr broken. I’ve shot 60%+ from 3 for years & can shoot with a 59-65 three ball brah that takes PRECISION to know the jumpers. But in this game i’ll miss with a 95+ midrange wide open. the game is broken Tutes. people like me have been playing 2K for 15+ years i know this game in & out it has NEVER been this bad bro literally NEVER. They are definitely intentionally implementing things within the game to punish good players. This many people aren’t just suddenly bad.
I'm not invaliding my viewers experience and I agree that there are some element of brokenness on the game. The only point that I'm trying to make here is most things that players feel is not because of RNG, it's something else. It's really important to blame the right things in order to fix something.
As far as shooting goes what I do after a game shooting above 60 I take a 5-10 min break then go back in now if I’m with a squad I take the backseat that next game rebounding I have a 6’7 lock that has 76 OREB and 80 DREB if I position myself properly and time the jump I get boards even over bigs and defense wise my only complaint are steals why does my 6’8 with 55 steal get better animations than my lock with 94 steal
I appreciate what you're trying to do here tutes, however I believe the community is too small minded they'll blame anything to get out of their awful shot selection
He never once defended the game lmfao. All he's saying that it's not the RNG that's at fault, it's the adjusted sliders. If you actually bothered to watch he finalizes by telling everyone to make sure they get upset over the correct thing so it has a higher likelihood of actually getting fixed.
which part of the video I defended the game? All I'm saying is most of these things that players are feeling are not because of RNG. I had videos that exposed some flaws on 2k as well. I just call spade a spade.
@@nfdaguru9693 You're spouting all this BS about defending the game when he didn't do it once during the entire video. Just gettin mad for the sake of gettin mad. Not his fault you can't win any games.
I call cap on this vid. Last 2k, people that were good at the game could dominate the game. On this 2k, anyone can beat anyone because of the RANDOMNESS. Don’t lose your credibility tutes
Some players are just bad what about the individuals who don’t hit the open man or take bad shots …. the game isn’t going to reward bad basketball some of you also don’t play towards your build so maybe get better at the game
What 2k does dont make any sense😂, we went from whites going in on shots, layups and meter dunks in 23. That was not good so we went to green or miss shots, green or miss dunk meter and whites layup going in in 24😂 Now that didnt work out either so we ended up with red, yellow shots and layups going in but the dunk meter is still green or miss. Latency also affects dunks, why ruin the most exciting part of the game if you anyway allow lesser skilled players to make very late very early tempo shots or very late lay ups?
2K25 is not a good game, it’s as bad as 2K18 imo, the sliders for shooting is ridiculous;can only shoot around 50%, dunk meter is nearly non existent, on ball steals never happen, only bump animations, legend badges are useless. i had to stop playing the game , primarily bc of the shooting!
@@RegicideSoV you telling me this like I’m Mike Wang lol. I’m shooting 54% from 3 with RNG and all. Ik you’re just not that good at the game bud, try a different hobby champ.
2k ( insert yr) is the worst! Next yr " I'm going back to(insert 2k yr)" Y'all do the same crap every yr! Stop using RNG like y'all use the word Woke and not understanding the meaning😂😂😂
To be fair, it don’t really matter what it means but 2k should never be RNG. Especially when there is something like the 2KLeague. And it’s way more noticeable on offense off course.
One thing is the loose ball logic is crazy. They can't be saying this is realistic though, players be fumbling with the ball like it's hot potato. Just let me catch the ball on rebounds and let my speed determine if I get the loose ball.
OAN: They gotta change they way the ball bounces down the court too. If a loose ball bounces down the court it should drastically lose speed every time it bounces on the court. Players can't catch up with the loose ball is totally unrealistic
The random animations leads to inconsistent gameplay. You can’t accurately play good defense when you or your opponent gets an animation that defies logic in any given circumstances.
Correct
The catch animations are the worse of any 2k. You catch the pass at the 3pt line and it carries you all the way outta bounds. What reality do players do this? 🤦🏾♂️
On me 😂😂😂😂😂
Especially onna fast break Isa Killer
FACTS💯 GETTING 2 HANDS ON THE BALL STILL CANT CATCH IT, GOING UP BEHIND THE BACKBOARD WITH LAYUPS🤦🏾♂️😭😭 THIS GAME IS THE MOST UNREALISTIC 2K EVER 💯
@@DarrylDinero28 that’s when it’s the worst ever frfr🤦🏾♂️
Or he fumbles the ball before going put of bounds, then MJ dunks it from just inside the 3
Stats mean nothing badges are useless. If I have a 88 interior D and 97 strength, a big with 87 post control and 85 strength shouldn’t be able to back me down
Factsss
They can’t unless they’re much bigger than you, which is realistic
@Earlysbird no. Strength is Strength. No matter the size. Not realistic. As a lockdown ive been backed all the way under the goal with a 92 Strength with 93 Interior d by Guys with 80 Strength. Wemby cant back down Draymond or PJ Tucker
@@AdmirePolk I get where you’re coming from but Wemby can definitely post dray up
@Earlysbird can post up, but not back him down under the basket. Rather you want to believe it or not he cant. Hes not strong enough
my thing is, if my perimeter and steal are higher then these dribble spammers ball handle, the odds should be a little higher for me. sometimes they run right into you and don’t lose it
An ur hand b rite there an they jus go pass u or they got the ball on an yoyo🤦🏿♂️
The odds are higher for you, but you still have to account for certain things
@@Spawnamvs certain things being skill and badges?
@goodiegoodiegumdrops Nah just animations you can't react to or interact with, random ankle breakers, etc.
It's always best to account for things out of your control so you can focus more on what you can
Bro facts and its crazy steal rating just effects how often the foul is called and gives you just a tad bit more sense of urgency but overall its all RNG lmao
You are still AVOIDING to address loose ball animations. Is that not rng?
What about offense getting the ball back right away after a block? Or the pass receiver magically gets dragged and animation locked out of bounds from high pass accuracy passer? Are those not rng?
YES!
Hes not completely wrong , call me crazy but almost every time my center has a super free easy board w no one around him , game gives a crazy rebound that goes out of bounds
It's like that with passes as well. 96 Steal with interceptor in the passing lane, coming right at you, and majority of the time it gets tapped out of bounds.
I agree with most of the comment section. I don’t know what you got going on Tutes. If it’s not RNG then what is it? Explain how a person can shoot lights out one game and then the very next game it’s like why even bother putting up a shot regardless of whether it’s RNG or not 2K is definitely playing God with our gameplay somehow someway. He just needs to leave the game alone plain and simple. There was nothing wrong with 24 shooting. They just needed to make a few minor adjustments. Why change the game completely then get mad when people are on your head about how trash the game is the next year.
One person used the term RNG now everybody just running wild with it.
Tutes is cool and helpful, but there's only so much offline testing you can do as one man compared to what thousands of people experience in online games where every situation is different. What's funnier is seeing people do the whole "get better, learn your shot, it's not the game it's you," where virtually every no life pro player is complaining about the same thing since day 1 lmao.
RNG is a copout for a lack of skill in 90% of situations. Even as I'm playing I'll hear people cry out "C'mon 2K!!!" For something that was 100% their fault and could've been avoided if they made a smarter decision. Don't get me wrong, there's definitely things 2K is terrible at as it pertains to animations and certain physics during gameplay, but too many people don't take any accountability for the role they play in a lot of what they don't do well.
**too many people don't take any accountability for anything in life.
That’s facts their bad players then complain about the game
Bros respond is to watch more of his videos so he can tell you the game isn’t as bad as you think it is
RNG on interior defense...also you get different defensive intensity based on the gameplay mode. Theaters hands up defense is much better than say the rec. There are several times where I'm holding RS completely up and my man refused to put his hand vertical. He's stuck in a perimeter defensive hands up stance instead of two hands up in or he'll put his hands up but dont close the gap of space in-between. It's almost like the game can't tell interior defense versus perimeter defense which animation is best to be used based on court positioning
As a multi-position defender, I definitely notice this too. 2k needs to fix this.
I agree. I hold my hands up and my character stutters forcing my hands down or doesn’t put my hands up at all half the time. I think giant slayer is in the game just not in the form of a badge. More noticeable in the rec
I agree but so far I say the contest in starting 5 games is the worse every shot interior or 3 in there is ALWAYS wide open, open, or light pressured no matter what it is and its a little more delayed in there so that doesn’t help I’m also 25-5 in there and guard everybody I play so ik from experience
I started to think this guy is getting paid by 2k at this point. 2k24 defense is a way way way better than 2k25, is no even close. The player movement, the control over your player, the contest, everything is better
Agreed
2k added engagement based matchmaking similar to Call of duty. There’s an algorithm to to try and keep you on the game
I still blame the matchmaking system for everyone complaining so much this year.
I hate the fact you can't turn defensive assist off. My player does random things if the ball handler is near by
Exactly
I shot 3-15 must be RNG. No way it could be because i took a bunch of terrible shots
Its means u really bad
No lol I take spot ups and I'm him lmao this game is ass
@ i give u 100proc its you mate … i play lock with 75 3s and my shooting is 73% and i play pro am …. Using high risk also, if you play high risk and u missing like this its only u …
@@jordanbanks6655clearly you ain’t
@Nahanoo nah I am...but I noticed the difference from day 1 to now...but don't reply to me cocky lol this game isn't good
Rng is never a good thing. ever. literally no arguement for it besides helping out bad players or players with horrible internet.
Rng produces outcome that don’t make sense/shouldn’t happen.
But they leave it in to cater towards the majority of there consumers who are trash at the game
When I’m shooting I never take all my shots at the 3pt at most if I green 2-3 in a row I’ll take like 2 mid range shots or layups to reset the timings for my 3pt shot then just repeat it works well for me most games if not I’ll just take more 2’s that game and I’m 137-16 in the city right now in all 1v1 games so I think ik what I’m tb to a certain extent
well, you can get "sucked in" to the person you're defending, you're stuck into animations, sometimes you can get out of it by hitting L2. Dunno if i would call this RNG, but its pretty annoying when the game does things for you.. The game used to make your guy jump if you used hands up defense and someone did a pump fake, it was automatic, ppl complained and they patched it..
you definitely get pulled forward or pulled to the side even when you’re going a opposite way when someone spamming dribble moves and sometimes you get that stuck in mode animation where its seems like out of nowhere your player hit a wall and I noticed this the most when I’m playing bigger players thats for sure slower than me
I read comments on multiple videos. Saying players are bad, this and that. Players just complaining. I can’t speak for anyone else. I’m fine in every aspect of 2K25 until I play “The City”. Then all of a sudden I can’t do anything. I’m trash on 2v2, 3v3, and REC. Yet I play well in every single other mode.
90% of my shots are bad shot selection, slightly early, or slightly late. I’m literally losing games due to the amount of “open” shots missed. A wide open dunk or lay up is missed due to poor shot selection. But according to some comments, that’s on me as a player. Yet others hit shots in my face as if I’m not playing any defense. While I constantly miss wide open shots.
Based upon my badges, attributes, and shot selection. I should go 10/10.
People want a simulation game till it becomes a simulation game
THAT'S THE THING.... NOBODY WANTS A SIMULATION GAME 💯🤷🏾♂️
The only issue with perimeter defense is that shot contests don't register because they broke the system and sometimes your hand doesn't even go up when you're holding the right analog stick on defense to contest shots
Could you explain momentum and how 2k makes your attributes drop from bad plays and how it go negative
Idk bru I feel like a having 99 perimeter and 96 steal(legend everything) doesn’t matter because you play good defense it stills say open and on ball steals just doesn’t feel the same anymore unless that them guarding u 😂🤦🏾♂️
The problem with todays players is,
1. If you played 2k before psn5. Where you can shoot 70% for 3 or dunk 95 %. The game is fun.
2. Players want to play with aa real player with a arcade feel
3. Lack of IQ
4. Most playing from 2k20 to todays game, probably never played real basketball within a team concept
4. Todays real basketball has changed over the years and those rhat watch young kobies era, have a different basketball understanding then those in todays era
2k has change with real basketball. Kobie made his points thru dunks and midrange. Curry and this era has made point thur the 3ball. Players want to shoot like curry, but doesn't realize he is only shooting 45%, and the want that 70% shooting
even curry went 0 for 7 a few nights ago. Preople also forget that, a couple 2ks ago, centers would rarely shoot more that 3 shots a game because your average person was making 70% of their 3s. It was toxic af and waaaayyyy less fun.
@@ThaFlyDutchmanI don’t think people are as upset about shooting 50% instead of 70. It’s more of you don’t have complete control of the game like you did last year. They destroyed layups. Finishing overall is just broken. My team and I every year beat teams by 30+ year after year but this year it’s rare.
@@jacksonfindley205 this is the issue. You don't control the outcome. If shooting was difficult but there was the chance to make your shot 100% of the time, then that's fine, but there isn't. Who are these players that want to play like its real life that the op is saying though? Because no pro streams, no casual streams I'm seeing have asked for that lmao. It's a video game. Guess what? They don't have badges in real life either lmao.
Oh I get it, if you are not winning then the game is bad. So should you make every layup or dunk for fixing controlling the game as you put it. Think about it from 2k making the most realistic game possible. How many dunks do you see in an NBA game? I bet you see more open layups then the dunk period goes in.
@@blake38100 I’m saying there is no skill gap to finishing. At all. Last year scoops and floaters were much more effective. I’m not upset about not winning. I’m still winning 70% of my games lol. I’m just saying 90% of players drive to the rim and hold x with real player % on. That’s not a skill gap at all
Just had 42 my first game 5-7 from 3 second game in a tight one I went 1-9 on open shots with a 99 3 then my center with a 99 pass accuracy throws the ball out of Bounds 3 times in a row in the clutch on the break it felt like 2k was in control then next game things back to normal . It’s like they be changing the sliders or ratings mid game. Is that rng 🤔
Also Tutes no offense… but your “tests” in free play blacktop do not resemble the rng or momentum that is in a game. Ur comparing offline freeplay vs online momentum/scripting/rng.
the RNG part that I'm testing on blacktop is pretty much a YES or NO only so it doesn't matter if they are not exactly the same to Online. I'm not testing for frequency. I'm not testing momentum and scripting btw.
@@Anonymous-tr6pc exactly this tutes needs to make a video about how bad the game is and how no one likes it take a stand and have a back bone to the worst 2k ever
This is what I beem saying about Tutes....cant really trust if u not online tutes
@@talismansquires4352 it depends on what you are testing. As mentioned on my other comment at the top, I'm looking for a YES or NO answer on the series of tests on that ON Ball blow by aspect of the game only. THe only thing I'm looking for is "will it be random? or not". Since I'm not looking for the actual frequency, it's okay to test on blacktop
EVERYTHING IS RNG !! 99 Perimeter MEANS YOU REACH INSTEAD OF CONTEST A SHOT WITH THE MECHANICS THEY CREATED!!!
They aren't going to like the truth, Tutes. You're gonna have people that want to keep being delusional and ignore the facts. It makes them feel better...it's how they cope.
This is literally the worst 2k ever made.
If I get taken out another dunk animation after I already beat my man 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
and they never call a foul on those its just trash
I can literally go 4/4 from three then the next game 1/7 as if i can't time my shot and ppl look at me like I can't shoot. If it's not RNG it's definitely Mike Wang playing God with our jumpers. I've noticed that guys with higher win% they get better animations for loose balls rebounds and steals where as lower win% guys get the low end of stick in animations.
Goto any video of me using shot aiming LEGIT on 2k and you’d understand how precise I am, I’m not special I just practice ALOT! I know my shots and I can’t shoot above 50% In games.
Like please go look at what I mean, the game is cooked.
Ngl i felt that rebounding subject, my 94 rebound build is getting more boards than 99 rebound build with legend rebound chaser and legend box out beast with same height and vertical at 7 ft. It sometimes feels crazy to go out of the way to make your build with legend badges, but you are not rewarded as youre supposed to be.
Tutes are really defending this awful game it’s the worst 2k ever lol
Point out the moment where he's defending the game. He isn't. He's just tryna make sure people are getting mad at the right thing, which is SLIDERS, not RNG
The game definitely has it's issues, but everyone's having to put up with it. If you're losing all the time, then that's all on you
God u kids are dumb 2k21 and 18 were much worse
It’s not the worst 2k ever. It’s actually the best one of the last 5 years.
@@ThomasOdelllyour comment needs to be reported what a rage bait
@@GameGift yeah and you’re probably one of those guys that think 20 and 21 were good 2ks😂😂
Tutes, can you explain how me shooting perfectly 50% from 3 and mid range over 500 games. Not being able to exceed that mark no matter what I do.
This became more obvious when they made shooting easier! That’s when percentages went up, but they get capped out as you approach 50% and then factor in human error. You get 46% or 48%, for the field and the 3pt line.
That isn’t normal if you are improving at the game, especially not when you’ve mastered your shot. It’s only online that it happens! You can’t replicate it offline, I’m telling you this it cannot be refuted.
It's you all the decent to high level players are shooting 60+% from everywhere.
I am shooting 65 percent on 3 pointers on my guard with a 89 3 ball. Maybe you are 50..
@ heard, I’ve seen that in park, I’ve recognized that I play rev and it could be limited to game modes like REC
@@OTFKami in rec with an 82 3 shooting 65% on my big with and 84 3 on my guard shooting right at 70%
@OTFKami a lot of it is shot selections. People take some of the dumbest shots on 2k. If there is a defender on you don't shoot it. If he's in close out range on a catch and shoot don't shoot it lol.
With all do respect tutes, from a player who plays this game every day for hours, the RNG in shooting is blatantly obvious, ive mastered my jump shot timing to the point that I can tell you if I'm slightly early or slightly late before I even read the feedback. So to have a game where I shoot 100% then the very next game shoot 0% all wide opens shots mind you, there is a serious problem at hand. 2k will never just admit they put out a bad product. 😞
This video is not about RNG on shooting. This one is about RNG on defense and some other aspects of the game that involves animations.
If Tutes says it’s all bad, we’d stop playing and then he’d stop getting paid off our engagement. Go and play 24 for an hour and there’s no way you can say 25 isn’t just a random bunch of animations and RNG
Don't think about RNG as a pure dice roll like at a casino. Let's think of it as a dice roll in dungeons and dragons with a bunch of modifiers on the result. Yes, there is some randomness, but some of the randomness is taken away by ratings and badges etc.
If no rng means big men will go face up at the 3 again I’m all for it. Tired of losing to bigs cause my big wanted to sit paint for a “board”. As far as shooting. No one is really out here taking contested shots so if I miss open/wide open and definitely know my shot then the opponents badge shouldn’t even matter
Sliders are everything in 2k it always has been!!!!
Tutes putting in over time this year. Appreciate your efforts Tutes
I usually rock with tutes but I literally went 5/5 from the three in the rec and the very next game went 0/8. My worst shooting game in my 8 years of playing. Legend set shot. It’s real.
I’m not invalidating your experience, the only point im trying to point out on the video is that whatever you are experiencing, it’s not because or RNG. It’s something else.
you have to play the game alot to actually feel the rng in the game its a good balance of rng tbh
Just play the game and you’ll see the luck involved. Offense beats the defense and has a wide open layup, it’s likely to get chased down and blocked. Defense stays in front of a dribble spammer and they’ll probably never lose the ball even when they sprint right into the defender. There is little to no skill in the game
U working for 2k ?
Let’s call it what it is. 2k has the most ignorant, excuse ridden & toxic community. So much blind hatred, ego & lack of accountability. It gets worse and worse as the years go on. This year the community seems extra intolerable. Tutes calling it out in the most polite way the last couple vids.
Man, I feel ever since that last update right before the beginning of season three it ruined the game now everybody can make these outrageous shots. You got people hitting very late slightly early very early. It’s ridiculous. Usually, I used to truck through some of the BS because it wasn’t that bad in other games. It’s been so bad since that update. I almost literally thought about retiring for a little bit and I never felt that way about this at all so that’s how I know this is terrible.😂💯
So RNG is punishing me being left wide tf open? 😂😂😂. Just so THEY get the percentage down? That’s insane.
Its manipulated rng based on who the algorithm wants to win/keeping games close as possible
Do you have an updated fastest dribble style video and can u do a video of what animation combo would have you flying down the court 👀
This is NOT a good game lol
Long video tutes? Let's go!! You always pack your videos with very good information.
thanks for the love!
Good work man can you do a test on when set shot and shifty activate depending on movement bcus sometimes they both proc but sometimes it's one over the other even when my player isn't moving much - sometimes I get shifty on a "quick stop"
If the shot timing stability is a a+ does that mean that the green window is bigger
So something i believe somethings that happen on blacktop correlates more to offline park sliders so i play rec, I feel like it’s more rng than not
RNG isn’t the correct term but it fits the issues being said because there’s SO MUCH RANDOMNESS & FLUKEY STUFF IN THE GAME. There are LITERAL ALGORITHMS in the coding with letting games get close or having people come back in the game. YOU CANNOT REFUTE THAT. THIS HAS BEEN IN THE GAME AS FAR AS 2K11 that i know of... literally just play HOF mycareer it’s the same type of cheesy shit going on in the ENTIRE GAME. If you play on HOF difficulty you know what i’m talking about. Game will intentionally bullshit you just to get the other team a chance at winning.
EVEN THE SHOOTING. MISSING GREENS ON 16 is RNG. “FULL WHITES” from 19 & 20 are those SAME MISSED GREENS (RNG). There is randomness in the animations as well you NEVER get consistent animations for any action in the game that’s not dribbling. And even if those are consistent HALF THE TIME YOU CANT CONTROL YOUR PLAYER. You try to dunk they make you layup when WIDE OPEN but other times you’re dunking on 3 defenders. Some games ur RANDY MOSS in the passing lanes and other games you can’t catch a 3 foot pass. You can’t put your hand up on defense sometimes. Regardless if it’s RNG or sliders dude you cannot deny this game is by far MECHANICALLY BROKEN. like suuupppperrrr broken. I’ve shot 60%+ from 3 for years & can shoot with a 59-65 three ball brah that takes PRECISION to know the jumpers. But in this game i’ll miss with a 95+ midrange wide open. the game is broken Tutes. people like me have been playing 2K for 15+ years i know this game in & out it has NEVER been this bad bro literally NEVER. They are definitely intentionally implementing things within the game to punish good players. This many people aren’t just suddenly bad.
I'm not invaliding my viewers experience and I agree that there are some element of brokenness on the game. The only point that I'm trying to make here is most things that players feel is not because of RNG, it's something else. It's really important to blame the right things in order to fix something.
Does my weight affect my agility and speed and vertical ?
As far as shooting goes what I do after a game shooting above 60 I take a 5-10 min break then go back in now if I’m with a squad I take the backseat that next game rebounding I have a 6’7 lock that has 76 OREB and 80 DREB if I position myself properly and time the jump I get boards even over bigs and defense wise my only complaint are steals why does my 6’8 with 55 steal get better animations than my lock with 94 steal
Tutes can you please test how much def rebound has the same effect as 99 off rebound?
& they blame RNG b/c they simply aren’t good at basketball, never practiced, never studied, respectfully
2K has the dumbest collection of players of any game I’ve played and I’ve been gaming for 30+ years
There’s different sliders for park online & rec online
I appreciate what you're trying to do here tutes, however I believe the community is too small minded they'll blame anything to get out of their awful shot selection
2k Tutes will defend this awful game so much lol like the shit ain’t dog water lol
He never once defended the game lmfao. All he's saying that it's not the RNG that's at fault, it's the adjusted sliders. If you actually bothered to watch he finalizes by telling everyone to make sure they get upset over the correct thing so it has a higher likelihood of actually getting fixed.
which part of the video I defended the game? All I'm saying is most of these things that players are feeling are not because of RNG. I had videos that exposed some flaws on 2k as well. I just call spade a spade.
@@nba2ktutes game is awful period in every way imaginable lol
@@nfdaguru9693 You're spouting all this BS about defending the game when he didn't do it once during the entire video. Just gettin mad for the sake of gettin mad.
Not his fault you can't win any games.
@@nfdaguru9693yet your still watching 2k videos…delete the game and stfu.
I think Tutes is getting paid by 2k now… this year is ALLLL RNG & scripting/momentum. Its worse than FIFA
Y'all are getting delusional now
He just showed evidence how defense is NOT rng. Are you slow?
I call cap on this vid. Last 2k, people that were good at the game could dominate the game. On this 2k, anyone can beat anyone because of the RANDOMNESS. Don’t lose your credibility tutes
This is the best 2k ppl complain about everything
People don’t like 2K because they don’t like Basketball
Bro rng runs this whole game
Some players are just bad what about the individuals who don’t hit the open man or take bad shots …. the game isn’t going to reward bad basketball some of you also don’t play towards your build so maybe get better at the game
Bruh the definition says randomness! So that's what it is there's no way around it
It’s not RNG, it’s called skill issue.
3/15? homie was getting boxed by his defender.
Ever since 2k23, the game feels more and more scripted every year.
So it's not RNG. Thats even worse because we were giving them an excuse, lol. With that clarified, It just means that the game is complete assss
the best 2ks have least rng
the worst 2ks have most rng and that’s a fact
2k18 & 2k25 are GARBAGE
People are inconsistent, basketball has variables...it's always the games fault though...same whinging every year
What 2k does dont make any sense😂, we went from whites going in on shots, layups and meter dunks in 23.
That was not good so we went to green or miss shots, green or miss dunk meter and whites layup going in in 24😂
Now that didnt work out either so we ended up with red, yellow shots and layups going in but the dunk meter is still green or miss.
Latency also affects dunks, why ruin the most exciting part of the game if you anyway allow lesser skilled players to make very late very early tempo shots or very late lay ups?
2K25 is not a good game, it’s as bad as 2K18 imo, the sliders for shooting is ridiculous;can only shoot around 50%, dunk meter is nearly non existent, on ball steals never happen, only bump animations, legend badges are useless. i had to stop playing the game , primarily bc of the shooting!
Pick dodger is complete ass this year and the shot contest
Bro mines on gold even when I put my +1 on it I still get hit by sceeens by PGs with no brick wall lmao
Yall keep complaining bout the game but consistently watch 2k videos, delete the game and stfu
Imagine needing RNG in a video game to feel good about yourself. Sad.
@@RegicideSoV you talking to me as if I’m Mike wang and I put it in the game😭. I shoot 54% from 3 with rng and all. Your just shit at the game
@@RegicideSoV you telling me this like I’m Mike Wang lol. I’m shooting 54% from 3 with RNG and all. Ik you’re just not that good at the game bud, try a different hobby champ.
@@RegicideSoV ngl bro this was a dumb ass comment
I’m actually to that point!
2k ( insert yr) is the worst! Next yr " I'm going back to(insert 2k yr)" Y'all do the same crap every yr! Stop using RNG like y'all use the word Woke and not understanding the meaning😂😂😂
Worst 2k ever
It’s not fun anymore
The game is just bad, I’m not even giving an explanation anymore.. Good work tho Tutes 💪🏾
People blame everything on rng now. They saw UA-camrs say it and now it’s all they blame their assnesss on.
To be fair, it don’t really matter what it means but 2k should never be RNG. Especially when there is something like the 2KLeague. And it’s way more noticeable on offense off course.
ALSO DEFENDS ON YOUR MATCH UP AND ITS STATS!