Why The Charlatans Are More Than Just Brit Pop & Madchester Survivors

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  • @jemxs
    @jemxs 3 роки тому +26

    What a great assessment of one of my favourite bands. They are so overlooked, but they are one of the few bands that I constantly go back to a listen over and over again. They are apart of my life and I can't imagine my life without them in it!

    • @2020Sound
      @2020Sound  3 роки тому

      Thanks very much, Jemxs! Much appreciated.

  • @markbutler7931
    @markbutler7931 2 роки тому +5

    Charlatans have more soul and feel and groove than all the comtempories the Stones of the modern age songs like blind stagger impossible soul saver and forever are criminally overlooked and Up at the Lake is seldom spoke about is a brilliant album

  • @usandusonly32
    @usandusonly32 2 роки тому +8

    Love the early 90's Charlatans stuff but I think if I had to pick a favourite album it would be Us and Us Only. Hit me at the right time in life. Every track is so good. Massively underrated album from a massively underrated band

  • @KINGMONKEY1989
    @KINGMONKEY1989 Рік тому +1

    They've survived because there music and brotherhood are as strong as each other. One of the best live bands to. So glad I came across your Channel. The bands you've covered mean so much to me. Great insight into the amazing bands.

  • @undergroundbullet
    @undergroundbullet Рік тому +2

    There longevity and quantity of quality tracks is so undervalued. My favourite Band and still love them and listen to them today. So many ‘go to’ tracks when the mood fits.
    I think you should compile a list of tracks that have been used on TV.. it’s immense.
    My Favourites of One to another,telling stories etc however up at the lake album was so underrated- I’ll sing a hymn was another personal favourite. Great piece of commentary and keep it up. ❤

  • @steve_bal4
    @steve_bal4 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic and well-deserved review. To borrow a cliché, The Charlatans have been the soundtrack to my life ever since I heard "The Only One I Know" in late '89. They are one of the few consistently soul-stirring bands I have followed and loved throughout their career. And yes, they have THE BEST b-sides I've ever heard, and that propelled me to buy every single they released. Just saw them perform last month in Toronto again (a rarity for us these days) and it was pure joy, pure joy. ❤

  • @kathrynmcelroy5658
    @kathrynmcelroy5658 3 роки тому +7

    omg I LOVE THIS BAND!

    • @2020Sound
      @2020Sound  3 роки тому

      They're very loveable!

  • @bartkdt
    @bartkdt 3 роки тому +11

    Thank you for this video. Charlatans have shown out, IMO, to be the best band from that era in the UK. Most of their peers flamed out in spite of huge successes. The Charlatans have steadily given the best songs. Admittedly I haven’t always been on board. The quality through the years is amazing. Here Comes a Soul Saver isa great song. Us and Us Only is a masterpiece.

    • @2020Sound
      @2020Sound  3 роки тому

      Thanks! 'Here Comes A Soul Saver' is great. Have you heard 'Fearless' by Pink Floyd? I got a shock hearing that for the first time - Mark "borrowed" the riff from it for that song.

  • @LL-fd7xn
    @LL-fd7xn 3 роки тому +6

    My favorite albums were Between the 10th and 11th and Up to Our Hips! No matter what, I always feel like running down the street on a breezy cool day listening to Tremolo Song. And whenever I want to just jam, I will listen to Feels Flow. Ty for this video! Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦👍

    • @2020Sound
      @2020Sound  3 роки тому +1

      They're my two favourite albums by them too!

    • @garydixon6315
      @garydixon6315 2 роки тому

      Up To Our Hips is a phenomenal album..!

  • @Keeleysound
    @Keeleysound 2 роки тому +2

    Brilliant analysis of a truly special, hugely diverse and incessantly productive group. No other band in history has made more great records over anywhere near as long a timeframe, and all the while enduring more misfortune than any other band in popular music! Extraordinary x

  • @TheDigitalApe
    @TheDigitalApe 3 роки тому +1

    What a brilliant, well deserved, review!
    The 90’s was a great era for UK bands, but the Charlatans were on another level, I always felt privileged to be a witness to their genius, and still do 30 years on.
    Any youngsters looking for inspiration, for their band, would benefit from the influence of the complete Charlatans back catalogue.
    If I had to choose an album, it would be the the epic 4th album “The Charlatans UK” this defined an era for me, with its positive vibes and anthemic melodies.
    featuring B-sides that collaborated with the Chemical brothers, music doesn’t get much better than this.

  • @stuartcarswell2815
    @stuartcarswell2815 2 роки тому +1

    Up to Our hips for me is their best album...that title track is incredible...fair play for highlighting it! 🙏

  • @shaunsanders5401
    @shaunsanders5401 2 роки тому +1

    My favourite contemporary band and the soundtrack to my life around the turn of the Century. There was a time when I played something by them almost every day.

  • @wk4max
    @wk4max 3 роки тому +2

    Just dug out my Charlitans albums and was amazed at how superb they sound so I went online to find someone who felt the same and ..here I am😎

  • @sadiesmum568
    @sadiesmum568 Рік тому

    I agree with everything you’ve said! So glad someone else realised how special this band are and believes in dropping the survivors tag. Or just swapping it for ‘consistently innovative, constantly dignified, continually loved’.

  • @kimpeters4637
    @kimpeters4637 3 роки тому +3

    I really enjoyed your Charlies Video. One of my favourite tracks is Theme from ' The Wish ' which is one of B sides to Weirdo. Wonderland which is my favourite album and was a career game changer for me at the time when you look back at the musical landscape then and the way a number of their contemporaries had lost their way.

    • @2020Sound
      @2020Sound  3 роки тому

      Thanks Kim! The Weirdo single was great, I've still got that on CD somewhere (it's the US version of Sproston Green on there too, isn't it?). Wonderland was really good too. Brilliant production from Danny Sabre - always think of it as a cousin to Black Grape's first album as a result.

  • @iamnotanumber100
    @iamnotanumber100 3 роки тому +1

    Been a fan since the early 90’s & just seen them live in Dublin during the week & there was nothing but love from the entire crowd, amazing live.
    Great video 👏👏& new sub

    • @2020Sound
      @2020Sound  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks!

    • @roscodabosco81
      @roscodabosco81 2 роки тому +1

      Was at the same gig with my brother and my son (19), band that crosses generations. Blackend Blue Eyes is my son's favourite song from trips to school at 8am 😂

  • @jonhickey8581
    @jonhickey8581 Рік тому

    Great comments on one of my top 3 bands. Talking about underrated tracks I would refer to Up at the Lake as an underrated album. Loads of great tunes on the one 👍

  • @jtotheb-ip2hh
    @jtotheb-ip2hh Рік тому

    Big fan here from Southern California where nearly nobody has heard of them. i've been a fan since Some Friendly came out, and just dug them more and more over the years. I didn't appreciate 10th/11th or Up to Our Hips until later, but their self title album and Tellin' Stories blew me away. Always thought they should get more love but they're too subtle, too clever. Not showy and haughty like Oasis and others. Still love them to this day. Thanks for the great video!

  • @pushon10
    @pushon10 3 роки тому +1

    Wow, this is everything I wanted my own channel to be back when I made music retrospectives 5 years ago.

    • @2020Sound
      @2020Sound  3 роки тому

      Wow, that's a hell of a compliment - thanks Pushon! Are you still making videos?

    • @pushon10
      @pushon10 3 роки тому

      @@2020Sound No. I stopped years ago because I just found that I was repeating myself constantly. I don't have many different ways of saying 'this album is good' hahaha!

    • @2020Sound
      @2020Sound  3 роки тому +1

      🤣 I'm bracing myself for that very moment.

  • @BurtonRdForever
    @BurtonRdForever 3 роки тому +1

    Great channel mate. Your a real natural. You deserve more subs lad.

  • @philmasters5587
    @philmasters5587 Рік тому

    Up To Our Hips was and is a groove filled monster and I LOVE B-sides from this era - one of the B-sides to Jesus Hairdo = Stir it Up - what a stunner of a tune! Long live the Charlies and RIP Rob and Jon - gone but never forgotten x

    • @pyenapple
      @pyenapple Рік тому

      Stir It Up is a pure distillation of how massively filthy their groove could get. Definitely their best b-side, arguably one of their best songs period.

  • @kreesmary
    @kreesmary Рік тому

    God damn you nailed this and I’m still in the middle of watching

  • @lucasm3879
    @lucasm3879 5 місяців тому

    Agree they're one of the best bands of the 90's and beyond. Also one other point is that Tim was a massive coke user for many years at the height of their success, as he's admitted in his autobiography - but unlike pretty much every other band, including Oasis and The Roses, it never impeded on the quality of their output and has never been used as an excuse for under performing. They just carried on releasing great music.

  • @matthewjdouglas6471
    @matthewjdouglas6471 3 роки тому +1

    I think the charlatans are to the modern day rolling stones. Great band. I think they are under appreciated.

  • @scott-ryanabt6039
    @scott-ryanabt6039 Рік тому

    Here fucking here! A boatload of great music is right. Great band, in my own Top 3 for 30 years. And staying there for the next 30 as well.

  • @saintgeorge6706
    @saintgeorge6706 Рік тому

    "Theme From The Wish". Why wasn't this tune a dance floor hit? It is bloody awesome.

  • @therealcaldini
    @therealcaldini 2 роки тому

    Haven’t watched the vid yet but the answer can be found by listening to the last few albums on repeat. Some of their best.

  • @az0t303
    @az0t303 2 роки тому

    I was exploring more of the bands under baggy/madchester label and charlatans particularly are band which i like the most. As you said, there was no explosion like stone roses self titled album but many many many great songs and this band is one of my most listened.10th and 11th is so underrated hungover album even tho i know that Tim does not rate it high.

  • @lucasm3879
    @lucasm3879 5 місяців тому

    My current fave overlooked Charlatans song (although it's a potentially long list) is Don't Wanna See The Sights 👌 It wasn't even included on Melting Pot.

  • @StratsRUs
    @StratsRUs 3 роки тому

    Only saw them play once , at the Move Festival 2003.Manic Street Preachers headlined Friday, The Charlatans Saturday and REM on Sunday.Flaming Lips also played, Jon Squire too and Mars Volta, SFA, Dave Gahan.Teenage Fanclub, Idlewild, Badly Drawn Boy and Feeder.
    And, to cap it all off, it was boiling hot sunshine all weekend.... in Manchester !!
    I know I was there but it feels like a dream.
    I understand how The Charlatans fitted in from the start , Indian Rope and The Only One I Know.There are just so many great bands that caught stronger parts of other waves, too

    • @2020Sound
      @2020Sound  3 роки тому

      That's a stellar line-up!

  • @conkerman01
    @conkerman01 3 роки тому +1

    Today I have been listening to Genesis and The Charlatans. Doesn't seem to be much Charlatans content on here.
    I totally agree about up to our hips. It is my favourite track by the band.
    The Chemical Brothers remixes were absolutely amazing. Inedde songs from the other side could be one of their strongest albums (Over Rising kicks it). Some decent instrumentals in there as well, a much ignored musical form in the more mainstream.

    • @2020Sound
      @2020Sound  3 роки тому

      That Over Rising EP was great ('Happen To Die' being another great track from it).
      Always appreciated their relationship with The Chemical Brothers. My discovery of both came in the same month when 'Just When You're Thinkin' Things Over' and the Tim B-fronted 'Life Is Sweet' both came out in Aug '95. Loved his voice from the get-go!

  • @michaelormondrobinson
    @michaelormondrobinson 3 роки тому

    Hey man. I love your vids but you’ve gotta bog up or paint over that mark on the wall behind your left shoulder. Super distracting. Whack a House of Love poster over it. Hehe. Keep ‘em comin. Love your work.

  • @garydixon6315
    @garydixon6315 2 роки тому

    Going to see these in May cant wait...!

  • @alanmulgrove2374
    @alanmulgrove2374 2 роки тому

    Amazing band and great vid 👍

  • @spencerglover1
    @spencerglover1 3 роки тому

    Man that was fantastic my friend , my favourite Charlie’s Albums are Tellin Stories, Us & Us only, up to our hips and The self titled album, I love Clean up kid as a B side, my 7 fave Charlie’s tracks are One to another, with no shoes, is it in you, Senses, Toothache , up to our hips and can’t get out of bed , seen em live 6 times and I’m always blown away, my first gig was Wolverhampton civic 94 I was 18, a magical E fuelled night 😉🤘

    • @2020Sound
      @2020Sound  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks very much! Great selection too!

  • @Ryan-br6np
    @Ryan-br6np 3 роки тому

    Great video mate

  • @macyib6388
    @macyib6388 3 роки тому +2

    Amazing ! Great words for a phenomenal band

    • @2020Sound
      @2020Sound  3 роки тому

      Thanks very much! 🙂

  • @davidfox7983
    @davidfox7983 14 днів тому

    Up to our Hips.. what an album

  • @edmunddantes4757
    @edmunddantes4757 Рік тому

    Withdrawn. Cant get out of bed b side. Cracking tune.

  • @humansincages
    @humansincages 3 роки тому

    Senses is probably my favourite Charlatans song!

  • @riquiffer
    @riquiffer Рік тому

    Up At The Lake is my favorite album by them

  • @cnbroadbridge
    @cnbroadbridge Рік тому

    Forever is my favourite tune 🤟😎

  • @stevemacaulay6415
    @stevemacaulay6415 11 місяців тому

    Great analysis; I love White Shirt.

  • @samuraininjarockstar9355
    @samuraininjarockstar9355 Рік тому

    Brilliant video , captures the true nature of the Charlatans 👍

  • @deannilvalli6579
    @deannilvalli6579 3 роки тому

    It's funny, I also thought at first that they were just another Manchester band following the trend of the late 80s/early 90s. I liked their songs, but thought they would be a short-lived, second tier band. But as they came out with album after album of great music, I had to admit they were better than I thought. And seeing them live was also impressive.

    • @spencerglover1
      @spencerglover1 3 роки тому

      There a Walsall band really they just did gigs with the Roses to get into that scene, they are all from Walsall in the Black Country except Tim who’s from Northwich in Cheshire, all ex members are from Walsall aswell Rob collins, Jon Baker, Baz Ketley who was the original singer

  • @MoviemuseNet
    @MoviemuseNet 3 роки тому +2

    No mention to anything from Modern Nature. For me one of their absolute best albums without a single track that I would give less than 8/10.

    • @2020Sound
      @2020Sound  3 роки тому +4

      Some great tracks on there, I particularly like 'Let The Good Times Be Never Ending'

  • @laladoopsy
    @laladoopsy 2 роки тому

    I was an Oasis boy until Tellin Stories came out. Of course I moved on to Mogwai and then Idlewild until I learned that Radiohead were the ones but still The Charlatans, despite so many classic indie hits and 4 number 1 albums and many headlining festivals, were never seen as contempories of great British artists along with Blur, Oasis, Pulp and the Manics.

    • @garydixon6315
      @garydixon6315 2 роки тому

      They are a great British Rock band though...on the same level as those bands you've mentioned...

  • @pauljacobson2207
    @pauljacobson2207 3 роки тому

    Thanks for making me reassess this band; I agree with your other vids so I will go back and give them a serious listen. Weird because i am a fan of the other bands of the age, somehow always saw them as lesser....

    • @2020Sound
      @2020Sound  3 роки тому

      Just seen all your comments Paul - glad you've enjoyed so many of the videos! Hopefully revisiting The Charlatans will prove fruitful. My favourite albums of theirs would be 'Between 10th & 11th' (interesting production from Flood; bit more atmospheric than I think of when I think of the Charlies, quite cold and icy) and 'Up To Our Hips' (all about the rhythm section, this one. Smokey, groove-ridden fun).

    • @pauljacobson2207
      @pauljacobson2207 3 роки тому

      @@2020Sound Thanks, have to watch the RIDE vid; huge fan of them too; I am curious about your take on Catherine Wheel. I think they are really overlooked, those first three albums are massive. Have you heard of the Mag. The Big Takeover (Jack is like my brother from another mother, been reading him for 30 years and his music taste is simpatico). For Against? and I hope you checked out Bdrmm.....

    • @2020Sound
      @2020Sound  3 роки тому

      Strangely enough, I only heard of The Big Takeover for the first time when someone else commented about it on The Chameleons vid! (That might be my favourite Bad Brains song, too.)
      I did check out Bdrmm: good stuff and totally get The Chameleons comparison.
      The Catherine Wheel, in all honesty, I currently don't know much by aside from a few things Spotify recommended to me, all of which I liked. I do remember having one of their songs on a compilation in '97 ('I Want To Touch You') but can't seem to find it on Spotify. The shoegaze era was just slightly before my time, but unlike MBV, Ride, Slowdive, Swervedriver etc. who've all had a lot of coverage that's prompted me to discover them in the subsequent years, The Catherine Wheel haven't had that so much - at least over here. I have enjoyed them, though, and will no doubt delve further eventually!

    • @pauljacobson2207
      @pauljacobson2207 3 роки тому

      @@2020Sound I feel like after watch your vids you would see/hear the greatness in Catherine Wheel's first two (Ferment & Chrome);

  • @wk4max
    @wk4max 3 роки тому

    Liked and subbed 😎

  • @makemosaics
    @makemosaics Рік тому

    I love them

  • @matthewjdouglas6471
    @matthewjdouglas6471 3 роки тому

    I like the charlatans they are like the rolling stones but for the next generation or two.

  • @Limekiln100
    @Limekiln100 8 місяців тому

    No mention of Modern Nature.... best album? Love UTOH and UAUO but that is something else. Different Days is a concept album......

  • @boozhead
    @boozhead 4 місяці тому

    CW9 Yo!

  • @thehairyclevage1645
    @thehairyclevage1645 3 роки тому +2

    Your forehead is magnificent.

    • @2020Sound
      @2020Sound  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks, I grew it myself!

  • @chriszenier826
    @chriszenier826 3 роки тому

    Sproston green

    • @paulsmith7051
      @paulsmith7051 3 роки тому +2

      Live it's on another level. Went on Thursday to watch them and they finished with it..

  • @sratus
    @sratus 11 місяців тому

    Get a better mic.

  • @geoffsaunderson5766
    @geoffsaunderson5766 Рік тому

    I used to think the stones roses molded my informative years, but I’ve seen the charlatans 8 times , never seen the roses, the songs that put the hairs up on my neck and arms, it’s the charlatans!