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Old Irish Coins From Peter - What's in the Bag?
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2023
- A big thank you to Peter Perigoe for sending me a bag full of Irosh coins to look through.
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Love the simplicity of the Irish ones, really like that James II Gunmoney! Great video!
Irish coins, especially old ones, can have significant value among collectors. Some of the most valuable include the 1943 Florin, the 1943 Halfcrown, and the 1938 Irish Penny due to their rarity and historical significance.
I have a 1937 Shilling. Am I right in thinking there are only TWO known of the 1938 1d?
Some lovely Irish ☘️ 🇮🇪 coins
Great stuff 👍🏻
In case nobody's said it yet, in Ireland the pound was often called the punt. As someone from the north I've heard a stash of euros prepared for going on trips across the border a "punt-purse". I would imagine the British-based currency isn't greatly missed in the mainland, but it's interesting to see. I've come across a few of this era of coinage myself.
Nice little set. I used to believe the James II coins were called "gun money" because in his exile in Ireland, the dethroned King raided and pillaged towns & villages of brass wares to melt down and make fiat coins to incentivise soldiers/weapons. My favourite pre-decimal/post-free-state reverse design is the scilling (shilling) or Fiorin (Florin). The wear is easily identified by it's contours in the animal, plus the attention to finer detail in the die design is embellished with muscular depth in the Bull and gills within the salmon.
That “beer token” is actually a press set up piece, testing the installation of a new coin press by Cincinnati Incorporated. Instead of running the initial tests with actual coin dies, they used these dies instead. To show that the press was working properly, the coin coming out had to match with a properly stuck example. Presumably if it didn’t match then they bought everyone a beer to make them forget the press wasn’t working! This coin would have been struck testing a newly installed press at the Birmingham mint. From what I can tell, these test coins are rare… not pressed in great numbers. It’s probably not too valuable, except to a numismatist who likes these sorts of oddities. Still, I think it’s the coolest find of the lot!
Great info mjanovec. Thank you 👍
Brilliant I had no idea what it was, can't remember how I came across it.
Yes, not too valuable. Just found one on Ebay for £4.75 plus £1.65 postage.
Cheers Paul, only you could make a video out of such a few coins, delighted to read about the 'Beer token' in the comments below. Yes you did pronounce my name properly. We also used the expression tuppence and tuppence haypknee and tanner for 6d. I believe to differentiate between the old 1d versus the new 1p (we didn't adopt the word new penny) totally different designs were chosen for the reverse by Gabriel Hayes, the 1/2p was an adaption from an illumination in a manuscript in the Cathedral Library Cologne, the 1p, adaption from an illumination in the book of Kells in Trinity College, the 2p, was an adaption of an ornamental bird in the second bible of Charles-the-Bald in the Bibliotheque Paris.
Thanks again for the coins Peter, very much appreciated. I really enjoyed making this video 👍
Fantastic array of Irish coins from Peter, and a neat 1805 penny and James II shilling. 👍
Hi Paul, Nice selection of coins
Great info and some nice designs by Percy Thrower.
I have a UK 1986,2008 and a 2020 20 Pence coin 😃
Loving the Irish style 💪
That 28 2/s is .750 silver
Not the first time you have recalled Percy Sugden & not Metcalfe, I think you might just be a secret lemonade drinker
I do collect a tiny amount of Irish, I remember I have Shillings of 1937 and 1942.
Nice batch of coins. Some great designs on these.
I don't like that we changed to Euro. I liked the old coins so much better! (especially the pre-decimal ones)
I have a UK 1986 20 Pence coin 😃
Another Great Video Paul. On the 1p and 2p coins there are 2 1988's 1 non magnetic and magnetic 😊
Absolutely supposedly first noticed by a Polish collector.
I'm not a physicist, but I've heard magnetism explained as follows: you can imagine the charged particles of metals as little fans, blowing in all different directions that cancel out each other's magmatism. But a large magnetic charge from outside can point them in the same direction, which creates order in the chaos. The fans blowing in the same direction means one end is now differently charged than the other, which makes this piece of metal magnetic in itself.
Some metals like copper and zinc aren't really affected by magnets. Some metals stay magnetic for a long time, that's what they make magnets out of. And some metals like iron or nickel only stay magnetised for as long as another magnet is near.
The presence of non-magnetisable particles within an alloy interrupts the neat order of the pointed fans. And with the order disturbed the metal isn't magnetised. This is why stainless steel with up to 90% iron isn't magnetic and cupro-nickel (a bunch of copper with some nickel) isn't either.
Very interesting. Thanks for the info Alrik 👍
My scientific answer would be… maybe they are magnetic but just not magnetic ‘enough’ 😂
Great vid as usual. You are so knowledgeable ❤
Great coins from Ireland some wonderful designs.
Nice selection of coins 👌
Lovely coin’s from Ireland I like the 1805 & James II👌👍
I do have some of those newer Irish coins
Ha'penny
I have a 1723 George I Halfpenny, don't think it's worth much though.
Peter needs to know it's James II (the Second), not James 11 (the Eleventh), there are NO numbers in Roman Numerals. Many people make this mistake.
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A nice collection Peter has sent you. I was watching whilst setting up to record the video of todays auction win, which included a couple of Irish pre-decimal bits, including a 1946 3 Pingine. It also contained a UK1953 1d, did you get anywhere with your FOI request?
Hi Matt, sounds like you had some nice finds.
No, I still haven't heard from the RM about the 1953 penny.
@@CoinPatrol yep, a decent one, video to come out in a few weeks. Shame that there has been no reply yet.
I have a coin clecsun
Hello Paul.
Hope you don't mind me asking a question on behalf of my coin fanatic dad.
He watches your videos religiously. He has a 1822 farthing and it has an error on the number 2
Does this coin have any intrest in the coin world
Will appreciate your reply if you get time
Best regards
Craig
Hi Craig,
I don't know of an 1822 farthing with an error on a 2 (Is it the first or second 2?)
If you email me a close up photo then I will include it in a future video and see what people think.
All the best
Paul
@@CoinPatrol thank you for your very quick reply
It's the first number 2
I'll be glad to send you the picture when I finish work
Thank you very much indeed
Would I be able to get your email on your channel?
Sorry I meant to include my email, it's:
coinpatrol@hotmail.com
Very nice collection Paul to be gifted. maybe the token was minted in Birmingham Alabama USA?
Some nice coins and unusual designs