WOOOOOO! lets go FM! These digital gauge clusters and change-overs and showing the DIY-ability is so so so sick. If this is anything remotely possible on a DIY level, and supported by FM; I'll support it in any way.
Great to see an update on this! I’m currently making a similar system for myself but I love your implementation. Getting the trailing led working so perfectly must have taken more than a few coffees. Can’t wait to see more 👌
I've been playing with this on and off for a while! The trailing LED is nice and smooth in real life, the camera makes it look stuttery. It worked out really well.
I really like them. I do similair project for E36 but its fully confgiruable for each car and has lots of spare outputs. I wonder if this ring could be controlled from my Gauge.S then? Like CAN/K-line data would have been more precise in terms of RPM and it could also show other parameters. Really like it you are making it open!
If you guys can release this as a package with some default settings, I'm definitely buying and might even do a needle delete. I don't really buy alot of American made stuff. My miata is like 90% Japanese parts but I am super hyped for this
So where is the open source software gonna be hosted? Wouldn't mind, if you all did a GitHub thing, taking a look. Also, if we are contributing to the open source software, what are we looking at as far as hardware to test on?
We'll be posting it to GitHub as soon as it's past the rough prototype stage. Not 100% sure what the hardware testing question is about, it will run on most CircuitPython devices.
@@bluefalcon13 If you know Python, your CircuitPython experience will be pretty smooth. Not every library is available - usually due to the limited processing capability and lack of multithreading of the micros versus a real computer - but it's easy enough to work around. The original prototype of this was written in Python and ported over to CircuitPython.
@@FlyinMiataVideo no biggie. I've written a bunch of C for embedded platforms for work. I'll be patient and wait for the code to drop, then probably look it over and see how I can help.
I do have an unrelated question; but a long time ago there was a video on those hood vents (seen on the ND in the background) and you guys have schematic and pressure data of the various aerodynamics of each generation miata----- is that file available anywhere? I am trying to add hood vents to my NA but don't know where the specific area for the best location is! Help!
Check out our instructions for hood vent installation, we have copies of them there. www.flyinmiata.com/support/instructions/exterior_29/All-gen_hood_vent_kit_29-40040.pdf
I wanted to do something similar but using any android powered device. However, I needed to learn how to receive the signals from the dash and how to plug that into an android device and receive those signals and havent had time.(My app making skills are in the low-medium range.) Reason for using android is that its free and open sourced and they have a wide variety of cpu options. Android Studio is fairly easy to use too and you can use any size screen, even round screens and custom sized ones and your custom gauges/UI will dynamically adapt to the space automatically. On top of that, there's already official documentation for car instrument clusters as android is being used for digital gauges already. Plus you can test it all on your computer with its built-in emulator. From there you can swap your gauges with digital ones of any size and shape and the community can share new guage designs too. Very modular.
What voltage are the gauge motors being controlled at - the 3.3/5V from the feather or the car 12V system? How do you handle that interface with different voltages?
The gauge motors run at the car’s system voltage of 12-13.5v. The problem I was having (I think) is that my signal generator can only output 10v for that type of wave and offset and that wasn’t enough at higher frequencies to trigger the tach needle. I wasn’t using the Feather to control the needles here, just the LEDs. The bulk of the hand-built boards are dealing with stepping voltage up or down. Optiosolators for the digital signals, resistor packs for analog.
These are still in the last stages of development, but are still on track to be available soon. Keep an eye on our social media, we'll be making an announcement as soon as they are ready to go. If you want more info or have any other questions, feel free to reach out to our customer support team directly. They'll be more than happy to pass along any news or ETAs we might have.
I've done a ton of PCB designs for little modules like this one. If you guys ever want to make any custom boards to handle all the wire routing, I'm your huckleberry
How do you get the data for the arduino? Are you guys using the connectors on the back of the cluster and if so, do you have any documents/data about them? Im playing around with this kind of stuff too but I cant find any information about it and I dont want to cook my arduino..
@@FlyinMiataVideo do you have any documentation about that or did you do it by trial and error? Second version is pretty hard for me, cause the MX5 is my daily... Would appreciate it if you made them public or online accessible but I can understand if you dont want that. Thanks tho!
@@vogelpapafinn8156 We have not published the exact method with all the various components, but it's basically just level shifting and proper isolation to make sure the signals are clean.
@@FlyinMiataVideo I got that but I meant e.g. which rpm/speed has which voltage? Or a detailed wiring (of the back) of the cluster. The wires on the back are not really titled..
The more you guys design and release, the more I'm screaming you need an EU distributor/warehouse. Import taxes are now fun, especially now that the Euro exchange rate dropped a lot.
It’s something we’re always looking at, better ways to serve our international customers. Having an EU distribution point doesn’t bypass import duties, it just means they’d be applied to big shipments so they’d show up as higher prices. Still, we’re looking at a few options for very popular products.
Getting my money for the day you drop!
You guys are so cool. Thank you 🙏🏻
WOOOOOO! lets go FM!
These digital gauge clusters and change-overs and showing the DIY-ability is so so so sick. If this is anything remotely possible on a DIY level, and supported by FM; I'll support it in any way.
Thumbs up for offering such flexibility and open source!
Great to see an update on this!
I’m currently making a similar system for myself but I love your implementation. Getting the trailing led working so perfectly must have taken more than a few coffees.
Can’t wait to see more 👌
I've been playing with this on and off for a while! The trailing LED is nice and smooth in real life, the camera makes it look stuttery. It worked out really well.
You never cease to amaze me with your intelligence. NEAT STUFF!!!
This is turning out very cool Keith, as an owner of a set of revlimiter gauges I can vouch for Adam's amazing gauges.
I can’t wait to get this . I really hope I can catch one before they sold
Il take it awesome idea an great job yall rock cant weight:):):)
Would love to see an update on this project!
The prototypes of the production PCBs have been built and populated. We've got it working in a bone stock 1990. Just have to squash a couple of bugs!
@@FlyinMiataVideo thanks for the reply, love the work you do!
I really like them. I do similair project for E36 but its fully confgiruable for each car and has lots of spare outputs.
I wonder if this ring could be controlled from my Gauge.S then? Like CAN/K-line data would have been more precise in terms of RPM and it could also show other parameters.
Really like it you are making it open!
Can't wait for this
Hey i saw this video 1 year ago and now the last few weeks pops again and i hope u guys have a update on this project
They’re very close to release, we had them on display at MATG and the FM Summer Camp in the past few weeks.
Glad to hear en see that do u have a price range? I know the first was between 0 en 1000 dollars.
Hope u have a better range of the price😅
@@Ruben_ACE_ That range is still accurate :)
@@FlyinMiataVideo between 200 en 600 euro?🤐
If you guys can release this as a package with some default settings, I'm definitely buying and might even do a needle delete.
I don't really buy alot of American made stuff. My miata is like 90% Japanese parts but I am super hyped for this
This is not only cool, it's what miata all about.
Take my money
a light indicating on the tach located at the target rpm for a one gear downshift would be neat
That's an interesting idea. To help with rev-matching, I assume. It certainly would be possible.
Yes, for rev matching is what I had in mind. Might be useful to help train yourself@@FlyinMiataVideo
So where is the open source software gonna be hosted? Wouldn't mind, if you all did a GitHub thing, taking a look. Also, if we are contributing to the open source software, what are we looking at as far as hardware to test on?
We'll be posting it to GitHub as soon as it's past the rough prototype stage. Not 100% sure what the hardware testing question is about, it will run on most CircuitPython devices.
@@FlyinMiataVideo awesome. I've got a bit of experience with python. I'll worry about hardware when you all release the source.
@@bluefalcon13 If you know Python, your CircuitPython experience will be pretty smooth. Not every library is available - usually due to the limited processing capability and lack of multithreading of the micros versus a real computer - but it's easy enough to work around. The original prototype of this was written in Python and ported over to CircuitPython.
@@FlyinMiataVideo no biggie. I've written a bunch of C for embedded platforms for work. I'll be patient and wait for the code to drop, then probably look it over and see how I can help.
Awesome!
I do have an unrelated question; but a long time ago there was a video on those hood vents (seen on the ND in the background) and you guys have schematic and pressure data of the various aerodynamics of each generation miata----- is that file available anywhere? I am trying to add hood vents to my NA but don't know where the specific area for the best location is! Help!
Check out our instructions for hood vent installation, we have copies of them there.
www.flyinmiata.com/support/instructions/exterior_29/All-gen_hood_vent_kit_29-40040.pdf
I wanted to do something similar but using any android powered device. However, I needed to learn how to receive the signals from the dash and how to plug that into an android device and receive those signals and havent had time.(My app making skills are in the low-medium range.)
Reason for using android is that its free and open sourced and they have a wide variety of cpu options. Android Studio is fairly easy to use too and you can use any size screen, even round screens and custom sized ones and your custom gauges/UI will dynamically adapt to the space automatically. On top of that, there's already official documentation for car instrument clusters as android is being used for digital gauges already. Plus you can test it all on your computer with its built-in emulator.
From there you can swap your gauges with digital ones of any size and shape and the community can share new guage designs too. Very modular.
What voltage are the gauge motors being controlled at - the 3.3/5V from the feather or the car 12V system? How do you handle that interface with different voltages?
The gauge motors run at the car’s system voltage of 12-13.5v. The problem I was having (I think) is that my signal generator can only output 10v for that type of wave and offset and that wasn’t enough at higher frequencies to trigger the tach needle. I wasn’t using the Feather to control the needles here, just the LEDs.
The bulk of the hand-built boards are dealing with stepping voltage up or down. Optiosolators for the digital signals, resistor packs for analog.
I can't seem to find anything about these gauges...
did these ever become available for consumers?
These are still in the last stages of development, but are still on track to be available soon. Keep an eye on our social media, we'll be making an announcement as soon as they are ready to go. If you want more info or have any other questions, feel free to reach out to our customer support team directly. They'll be more than happy to pass along any news or ETAs we might have.
I've done a ton of PCB designs for little modules like this one. If you guys ever want to make any custom boards to handle all the wire routing, I'm your huckleberry
This ia great!
Wow!
How do you get the data for the arduino? Are you guys using the connectors on the back of the cluster and if so, do you have any documents/data about them? Im playing around with this kind of stuff too but I cant find any information about it and I dont want to cook my arduino..
We are scaling and reading analog signals off the back of the cluster.
@@FlyinMiataVideo do you have any documentation about that or did you do it by trial and error? Second version is pretty hard for me, cause the MX5 is my daily... Would appreciate it if you made them public or online accessible but I can understand if you dont want that.
Thanks tho!
@@vogelpapafinn8156 We have not published the exact method with all the various components, but it's basically just level shifting and proper isolation to make sure the signals are clean.
@@FlyinMiataVideo I got that but I meant e.g. which rpm/speed has which voltage? Or a detailed wiring (of the back) of the cluster. The wires on the back are not really titled..
@@vogelpapafinn8156 You'll want a wiring diagram. The RPM signal is a pulsed signal, so you're actually measuring frequency of that one.
Any progress on this?
Progress is being made, but isn't a huge priority for Keith. We should have more updates to share during MATG/Miata Reunion.
I wish Jroobi would release his TFT digital dash
What’s the ball park price of one of these units going to be?
As it says in the video - between $0 and $1000. If we're any more precise than that, it'll be viewed as a promise.
Hurry up
The more you guys design and release, the more I'm screaming you need an EU distributor/warehouse. Import taxes are now fun, especially now that the Euro exchange rate dropped a lot.
It’s something we’re always looking at, better ways to serve our international customers. Having an EU distribution point doesn’t bypass import duties, it just means they’d be applied to big shipments so they’d show up as higher prices. Still, we’re looking at a few options for very popular products.
TBH. Most people wouldn't know what to do with all that extra info. As it is they don't know how to turn on the headlights or turn off the high beams
Shut up and take my money
promosm
your hand movement drove me nuts. bye.