Diogenes, The Publicly Defecating Philosopher | Sam O'Nella | A History Teacher Reacts
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2021
- Diogenes is one of the most famous philosophers in the genre of cynicism. He was also a complete weirdo. Let's see what Sam can tell us about him!
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Is Diogenes a genius or is he crazy?
Crazy
Both..
Yes
Both
He's Grazy
My favorite Diogenes story was when he met Alexander and Alexander said, "if I were not Alexander, I would like to be Diogenes." To which Diogenes replied, "if I were not Diogenes, I would also like to be Diogenes."
“Diogenes, what can I, Alexander, King of Greece, Egypt, the known world, do for you?”
“Get out of my fucking sunlight.”
Sam should have worked that in there XD As a reply to "You really are just a legend!" Diogenes shoulda gone "Yup."
@@SpiralSine6 iirc what he actually said was "Do not take away what you can't give back."
diogenes loves diogenes just like kanye loves kanye
what a chad
My favorite anecdote of his is (from memory):
He was talking to a student of his, and the student was all "Yes, teacher... Yes, teacher... Yes, teacher". At some point Diogenes stopped and said:
"Boy, contradict me at least once so I know we are two people."
"Uh... No, Teacher...?"
Literally just the Grand Budapest Hotel
@@bloodakoos Lol
"you spineless parrot, just gimme a sentence lmao"
Wait so he actually had students?
My favorite story of Diogenes:
Diogenes was knee deep in a stream washing vegetables. Coming up to him, Plato said, "My good Diogenes, if you knew how to pay court to kings, you wouldn't have to wash vegetables."
"And," replied Diogenes, "If you knew how to wash vegetables, you wouldn't have to pay court to kings."
Damn that's a sick burn
His intelligence was great: learning the worth of things, not its subjective worth based on societal constructs, not suffering for ego.
@@WomenCallYouMoidOutcome independence, end of the day take a piss, drink from a stream, pick some berries ya know. The good ol days
"we live in a society"
Diogenes: "yeah, because you want to"
Something my philosopher friends and I chat about...is how these days, society doesn't allow you the option of not being in it.
@@geelee1977
Yeah you can't even go live in the forest by yourself, because that forest is owned
@@steelbear2063 exactly, true freedom doesn't exist anymore
@@stanpines9011 Well, easy enough solution. Just start a genocide until you are the last person alive. Boom, infinite freedom
@@steelbear2063 Not LEGALLY. you still can, to be fair.
Fun fact some of the salmonella academy videos have been marked as for children, one of these videos was about the origin of phrases where he talks about African wifebeating, and stealing horse tranqulizer, not childrens content, but tame for sammy.
True lol
Lol. Like the one about the Safety square.
You talking about that while I am wondering what happened to him
Lauren F. college
"Oh wow, that looks like a garbage system"
"Good eye Billy, that's because it IS garbage!"
The only shit Diogenes gave to other people was a literal one
And he has plenty of shits to give - after all, a man needs to eat to survive!
I thought I heard the response to his wishes after death, was something like "but the animals will eat your body", "then give me a weapon to fight them off", "But you'd already be dead", "My point exactly!"
"Then why should I care if I am eaten?"
From what I heard, Plato was so embarrassed after Diogenes came in with a plucked chicken screaming "behold a man" that Plato added to his Featherless biped comment with "and has no claws"
I can see Diogenes come back with a plucked chicken with its claws cut and screaming "Hey Plato!"
kangaroo
@@bloodakoos close, but they have claws
@@Quickpatch12 danget, didnt know that
@@Quickpatch12 monke?
“Im not like other philosophers...
*I have no respect for society”*
he's basically the ancient version of "we live in a society"
@@heliveruscalion9124 i honestly can’t say you are wrong
that both haunts me and satisfies me
I think Diogenes would like memes, or at least find them interesting
@@carsonpearce5980
Memes existed long before we had a name for them
@@steelbear2063 id say before the internet they were just jokes, but yes.
Ancient prototype George Carlin lol.
The legends say, one day, he just held his breath and fricken croaked
You know, I’d believe it.
Croaked*
But yes that is a legend about him
@@SpiralSine6 i would too if it wasnt impossible
@@penguinsrockrgr8yt216 thnx
That explains why Sam hasnt uploaded in a while.
Plato: "...with broad, flat nails."
Diogenes: *hammers on chicken feet*
According to legend what dio said to alexander was a word with a double meaning that could be translated to "teach me something new"
Or
"Give me light"
When Alexander the great, stood before Diogenes (blocking the light he'd been lazing in) and offered to do anything for him, he dead panned "illuminate me."
Alexander eventually is rumored to have said "If I were not Alexander, I would wish to be Diogenes."
To which he replied "If I were not Diogenes, I would wish to be Diogenes too."
We have a saying in my language, probably because many cities on our coast were ancient greek colonies
I always felt like Diogenes was basically saying “of course you want to be yourself”
The theory that Diogenes just chose to not live anymore is such a Diogenes move, I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually true
Diogonies: when I die throw me to the wild.
People: but that is not fair to your remains.
Diogonies: then give my remains a club to defend itself.
Terry said something that is simply not inaccurate. Diogenes was NOT dependent on the society he railed against. If he needed to chase a dog off a kill, he would, if he needed to hunt or gather, he would, BUT IF HE DIDN'T NEED TO, then he simply didn't. He ate the scraps because they were there and were simply less effort to obtain. That is his point, if you don't NEED to give effort, then DON'T, with regard to EVERYTHING. He was trying to show how to define "need".
I guess Diogenes was the OG Bruce lee and took the phrase “be like water” to mean “take the path of least resistance,” which is what water and electricity do. So Diogenes was an electrician or something like that.
Diogenes is the actual definition of based (not the modern internet definition of thoughts/opinions one agrees with) holding strong, genuinely controversial (not to just one part of society but society as a whole) opinions and not caring what anyone thought of him because of them or him.
On the plato thing, as many likely already know plato wasn't his real name, it was his wrestling nickname. So the chicken scene gets even funnier when you imagine it being this scrawny homeless man with a chicken mocking this ultra swol buff dude.
That's exactly why it's my favourite story.
Plato: "Students, grab my oil skin... It's debate time!"
Based
Chicken based. For all my cooks out there.
I feel like Alexander wasn’t just “not hurt” by Diogenes, but relieved. Think about it; nobody in their right mind would ever diss Alexander like that. No one would ever treat him like a normal person, nevermind a nuisance. He was probably relieve to be not be treated any different then anyone else by Diogenes
Q: Is Diogenes a genius, or is he crazy?
A: Yes.
very thin line between these two options
@@NoNeedForLungsone often comes before the other
When I was studying Latin we went through a text describing the encounter with Alexander. Even though I was terrible at translating, I remember noticing the name and instantly wondering if it was the same Alexander of Macedon that conquered all of Persia. Our teacher confirmed it soon after.
I can't wait for Sam to come back on UA-cam
yeah
Kinda worried something happened to him
Sam actually passed away💔 shit broke my heart
He's posted on Reddit recently talking about coming back
@@cxxlerkitsht2356 lies, burn the heretic
Diogenes’ give-a-fuck-o-meter was running at -9000 lol that dude had no sense of modesty whatsoever
he had no sense of modesty, but at the same time, he was the most modest of his peers, he trascended the concept of modesty
Diogenes chicken is a good example of the flaws with taxonomy. It's like describing a coconut as an mammal just because it has hair.
A coconut is not a mammal just because it has hair. It's a mammal because it also produces milk.
The crazy thing is that it extends so much further than taxonomy. Even basic concepts which we take for granted can be taken to a point where they are merely self-referential
@prestonjones1653 Coconuts do not produce milk. "Milk" as a non-animal product is a marketing term, not a scientific one. By definition, milk comes from a mammal, which is under the animal category
I first learned about Diogenes in 6th grade and found him epic from the start
it's honestly impossible to portray this man to be anything other than fucking badass. Just a homeless man without a single care in and of the world.
I mean, unless some wrestler says man is just a naked chicken of course.
It always makes me smile seeing teachers laugh at crazy shit like this which is still educational... Sam is definitely a hero we didnt know we
need
Omg the look on your face when he said "hot steamy load of knowledge dripping down your neck and chest"
On Diogenes's interaction with alexander, the full context makes it even better. Alexander said to Diogenes that he would grant him anything he wanted. he had but to ask.
Diogenes said "Then step out of my sunlight so you do not deprive me of the one thing you cannot provide me."
This man. Alexander must've been legit flabbergasted
For someone who has recently graduated, i would have loved to ask my professors back then “What the fuck?!”
I like how Mr Terry always has one of them "back in my day" moments when Sam mentions something from the late 80s-90s
The fact we remember Alexander for all those achievements, and also remember Diogenes who sat in a barrel
I believe the term you’re looking for is “no chill” lol
No filter also works
No limits
The Ted Ed history of chickens video is pretty informative and the closest thing you can get to a drug trip without doing anything illegal... you should consider reacting to it
I was having a miserable past few days and this video instantly made me smile, laugh and feel better. Mr. Terry, thank you for your videos!! They make me smile and educate me. I don't know what else I could want from a video
People usually say Diogenes was a philosopher
I say he was the first punk rocker in recorded history
He was very punk rock
punk rockers wish they could be diogenes.
Overly Sarcastic Productions also has a video that Diogenes is featured in, called "History Hijinks: Greek Wise Guys". It's damned funny, too.
I love every story I’ve heard about Diogenes
Dude had no chill... Would be the best way to discribe it
Another few anecdote of Diogenes: Corinth is under attack, arrows are fired, people die or run around like heedless chicken hoping their loved ones are still alive. Diogenes gets a barrel and starts to repeatedly roll it up a near hill, just to let it roll down again. When asked what the f he's doing there he answered: "I just try to be as helpful as anyone else here."
Also he often walked around in broad daylight with a lamp. If you'd ask him why he'd say: "I'm looking for an honest man." And continue his walk.
Or the story where he saw an archer training, who hit anything but the target, so he took a seat right in front of the target and exclaimed: "Thank you. I was looking for the safest place of the world.
5:20 The dude had no chill
I think the main thing that people miss about Thoreau and Diogenes is that they didn’t advocate for those lifestyles but rather were almost studying the simplicity of it and what it shows about human nature. Both men, in their living conditions, relied completely on others for survival. This is why a lot of times people who try to replicate their simple living in completely isolated conditions often struggle.
This Is arguably the best sam o nella video.
5:27 I think the best term at least for me would be no shame or no restraint
Decorum perhaps?
@@idlevillager3763 maybe
inhibitions?
You see him slowly become desensitized to Sam's crazy humor and violence the more he watches their channel.
Inhibitions is the word you were looking for around 5:40. Basically this dude just did what he wanted with no regard for societal restrictions or how it effected other people. He was essentially constantly blackout drunk without ever touching alcohol.
The man the myth the legend, Sam Nutella has returned!
Is what I'll say as soon as he returns lol
CURSE YOU
So Say It
Diogenes I think is an ancestor of european liberal tolerance for the eccentric and differing opinions.
I remember hearing about a japanese person in a vid by the Voices of the past UA-cam channel being stunned when he learned that political enemies in the political class could sit at the same table after viciously debating one another in parliament. Even compared to americans today alot of european cultures seem more openminded and less judgemental.
I think this is a cultural trait to be proud of.
Edit: The parliament was in britain.
Diogenes: Has an Intrusive thought
Also Diogenes: Aight, lets make that a reality.
You waving back at Sam when he says "hey kids" never seizes to make me chuckle
Gonna suggest these again cuz they are awesome
Roosevelt vs Churchhill ERB
Old soldier meets new soldier | The Gap
I could be wrong, but the meeting with Alexander showed his mind more than not giving a fuck (For once).
- You *do not* refuse an offer from Alexander.
- Diogenes doesn't want material goods, and to ask for them would be hypocritical of him.
- Ask Alexander to move.
There you go. A 4d chess answer that covered every side.
I’m so glad you listened to my recommendation to watch this told you that you’d like it 😂 😊
Best intro I've seen today.
The best part about the story of his last wishes of his body being tossed into the wild was that when the citizens protested with concern about his body being eaten by Wolves, he told them to leave a sword with his body to defend himself with and then they protested saying that he couldn't possibly use the sword if he was dead and Diogenes was like: "Then why does it matter?" A final lesson for everyone. LOL
"Dude had no..." Chill
Dude had no chill
there's a really popular sitcom series from mexico called el chavo del ocho, the series ended more than 40 years ago and it's still relevant to this day, that's how popular it was
the main character Chavo, a very poor 8 y.o. kid (that was played by a 40y. something dude, mind you) spends most of his time in a barrel
allegedly that's a reference to Diogenes himself
Could you please react to the incorrect history of milk by Ted Nivison please.
I can get behind this
Diogenes, aka, progenitor of the giga-chads.
This... this interests me.
btw, "inhibitions" was the word you were looking for, Diogenes had no inhibitions, he did whatever he damn well pleased.
Finally, this is one of my top 3 Sam videos, glad you’re watching this one
Bro had no CHILL whatsoever
The dude had no shame. That's what you're going for.
He’s like Rick Sanchez except- and actual genius instead of someone who did an invention one day and was praised ever since.
Was waiting for this one
Pewee Herman is only the most prestigious philosopher 😅
His philosophy is unarguably seminal.
he was literally the og punk rock crustie.
Epic intro Terry
I don’t think Diogenes held his breath to die, because the moment you pass out the body’s gonna start breathing again.
Define a human:
Smartest one. (Usualy)
I love it when Mr. Terry laughs uproariously.
Ol Dio' wasn't down with those pesky social 'graces'.
I love this sam video
Uh, was the video title intentional? It says "defacting" on the thumbnail, and "defecating" in the title
he had no chill
Ahhhh, I'm so glad Diogenes is your fave, too!
you could not contain this man
loving the Dalvin Cook gear
6:36 I accidentally took a medical ethics course in college, and Kant was the hardest philosopher for us students to wrap our heads around. One day during lecture, a student asked, “If nothing can be done with completely selfless intention, then what are we supposed to do?” I responded, “We can do anything: be charitable, generous, whatever. It isn’t bad or wrong - it just isn’t purely selfless.” My professor said that was right, and I was very happy that I figured it out. I love learning
Alexander also said "If I was not Alexander, I would want to be Diogenes"
To which Diogenes responded "If I was not Diogenes, I would also want to be Diogenes."
zero inhibitions, zero restraint, zero f's to give,
5:35 "he has no chill" is what you were trying to say
Viking's jersey. You got your self a subscriber!
You know, it says a lot about Socrates when Diogenes existed, and people found Socrates to be the more insufferable of the two.
How do you define a human in the simplest of terms possible?
'Biped with morals' i guess
egotistical biped
@@shanelawrence7438that doesn’t work
05:35 Chill. The word you were looking for is chill. He has no chill.
Nice Vikings jersey Mr. Terry! SKOL
There was a thong where he moves barrel up a mountain in a war to say
"I am making myself useful as everyone here"
Cause everyone was running around randomly
I once watched 2 Pewie Herman movies just because the Mr Bean movies ran out
Instead of shame, I'd say he had no inhibitions to doing anything in front of others.
Ayyyy, I left an emote of this in the discord chat.
to me, Diogenes was the biggest troll
As a modern man who's spent his entire life hearing about the teachings of everyone but this guy, I think to myself... Diogenes was right.
the ending is missing the best part where he told them to toss his body outside the gates, they replied then the animals will get you, he replied give me a stick to defend myself then, which they replied but youre dead.... and he retorted then what does it matter?
there is a little more to the story of "throwing his body into the wilds" someone questioned him saying that the animals would eat him, to which he replied: "give my corpse a stick to fight the animals with."
"Hes got no filter" is what I'd Say would describe him well
Diogenes had no filter
My second favorite history teacher!
Situational awareness
Shame? Has no shame? Oh you said it.
Diogenes invented TOR and sea anemones