Why these 5 Calibers are worth Stockpiling
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- Today, John gives you his favorite calibers that you should stockpile for the apocalypse.... I mean for everyday life.
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"Good stable currency." Haha! Back when the pandemic started and all the ammo dried up, my landlord and I were talking about ammo and he told me he didn't have hardly any 5.56, so I actually paid 1/3 of my rent that month in 5.56. :-)
Wtf
That is GREATNESS!!
Should of charged more
Ammo as currency is iffy, since it is worthless if not stored properly, and there is no way to verify this at the time of transaction.
I traded a couple crates of 7.62x39 for a Corvette. Back in the early 2000’s when you could get it for under $70 for 1100+ rounds, I shot a lot and stocked up.
The only times a man can have too much ammo is when he is drowning or on fire.
And locust invasions...
Or when your house gets raided by ATF.🤪
@@nogiedeville1623 not if you pay in cash
This is my motto now. ❤️🇺🇸
1- .22 lr
2- 5.56
3- 9mm
4- 7.62 x 39
5 - 12 Guage
Bonus- .338 lapua
The problem, Steven, is these are just the very rounds that will be in very shortest supply, the quickest! Especially 5,56mm! The Military will ship out every possible box to wherever the firefight is, and not release a damned round to the public. What's on shop shelves will disappear within days! That's it! Look what happened to the supply of .22LR ammo recently - almost unobtainable, and it took months to restore some supply. [Anyone know how many .22LR guns are out there? I'd guess at least 10+ millions, probably more! ] It is very difficult to predict what will happen when SHTF strikes, and at what intensity. The current situation in Ukraine is a serious wake-up call that people should be watching. True, it's unlikely to happen on US soil, but think back to what the domestic situation was in WWII, and that might give some idea of what might occur.
You forgot about the 38 + 357 that'll be a lot more valuable than that blackout bulshit that nobody hardly ever has need to go back to school and learn a little bit more brother
Yup!
@@RobertSmith-pi3lx you are replying to Steven's list. I don't see "Blackout Bullshit" on his list. I, too would have put 38/357 on the list most of my adult life, but chosing only one I too went with the .355/9mm.
762x51/308 as well since it’s just as common as the first 5
22LR, 9mm, 5.56 mm, .308, 12 GA
My Top 5 List:
-The 3 I Use The Most.
-The 2 That Everybody Else Wants.
Should they ever overlap,
Double Up.
(BTW I ALWAYS TYPE IN CAPS)
@WPS...U MENTIONED ONLY AUTO ROUNDS...ABSOLUTELY NO WHEEL ROUNDS. DO REVOLVERS NO LONGER EXIST IN THE FUTURE🤔?? LOL
@@MA-lq6eb just not as common... if you use them , stock them...
@@MA-lq6eb Not as common and not as reliable (contrary to urban legend).
Yup. and his list overlaps with what I use and that's what everyone else uses. Only odd ball I didn't agree with was that creedmore. Its prefect if that's the gun he owns. Or I'd buy it if it was some sort of local fav otherwise that part of the hunting market is too diverse to even try as far as I know. My round for that is my 30.06. It ought to fill the gap plus its what I own plus it may have a slight edge on being popular if I had to guess.
Excellent comment and highlights what's missing from most of these kinds of videos. Stockpile ammo for the gun you currently own and know how to use. DON'T buy a new gun just for its cartridge (unless there is a significant capability gap in the cartridges you currently have guns for). If you have a 45 or 40 you shouldn't be running out to get a 9, and if you have 7.62x39 you shouldn't be going after 5.56.
Bonus calibers: Whatever your local PD uses and whatever your friends use.
Big facts! Get what's common, and that's your most lucrative/liquid currency. Also, you'll be able to find a rifle/firearm for it, and vice versa. ;-)
@@CapnTytePantz my list is the same, except swap .308 Win for 6.5 Creedmore
@@loganwgriffith agreed
Boogalo time 🙊
Some people feel that you should also have a gun or two in unpopular calibers, because they may be more available.
Agreed, the "vanilla" nature of .308/7.62x51 makes it a more versatile and easily obtained round over the "boutique" 6.5 Creedmore
To me the most important calibers to stock up on are the calibers you have
Wow... Soo insightful... 🙄🙄🙄
I find it odd you chose the 6.5 over the 308. You’d have a hard time trying to find 6.5 creedmoor for less than $1.50 a round. You can find .308 for .60 a round. Most shooters won’t really get the benefits of 6.5 over 308 because they simply don’t shoot enough. Also way easier to barter with .308/7.62x51
On board here 100%, I have my bolt gun, my grandfathers bolt, then a few semi's in 308. I'm holding tight to my 308 till I see a real advantage to switch over. But for now 308 does all my 100-800 yard duties just fine. and from Hogs to deer to some larger game it is a good middle ground for me. Everything else. Yep on board with that. :)
How many folks own a 6.5 v .308? Barter and investment quality are supposed to be critical to the value index. While the 6.5 might have a slight edge over the 08 in certain aspects, there simply are probably a hundred to one or more 08 capable firearms between civil and military than 6.5.
I agree 308 over 6.5
@@stephenwalton7079 let me clear up my thoughts of what I said. I'm an "old" shooter. I have plenty and have been shooting for a long time. 308 762 is an easy choice because I have zero equipment costs. I have been running 308 and 30-06 for hunting my whole life.
For a new shooter looking to get into hunting and sport shooting I would consider 6.5 but it would still be a consideration and not 100% for sure. I would have to look into much more.
That was my thought. Swap 308 for 6.5 creed. There are so many hunting rifles out there in 308, not to mention the M1A and the Hk91 and clones. I have a G3K, so I keep a good supply of 308.
The other benefit of 308 is that there are cool bullets....the M2 and M61 AP, several varieties of good tracers and the M14API. I am lucky enough to have a couple hundred of those.
"Stockpile" circa 2018= 5k rounds of alllllll the calibers
"Stockpile" 2020-21= 150 round range pack
This videos filled with great one liners. Love this channel!
I'm with you on 4 of the 5 choices. Can't say I'd ever think about "stockpiling" a 6.5 Creed. One of the primary reasons to "stockpile" is as an alternative form of currency. I submit that hardly anyone in a SHTF or WWROL scenario will be running around seeking to barter with or for 6.5. I'm thinking that the prevalence of the .308Win or 7.62x51 is likely a better choice.
Completely agree, I know someone with a 6.5 but the majority around me is 308. Most people I know don't shoot that far to get the benefits of 6.5 and aren't willing to pay for the increased cost of ammo.
He is a ranger. Even though 6.5 might shoot alittle better than 308 at long ranges but, I know a lot of M1A long distance shooters that wont give them up. .308 is a better way to go
Had a friend ask me: "Don't you have enough ammo?"
Respose: "... I don't understand the question... that's like asking me 'don't you have enough money?' and the answer is no"
My brother in-law: I have a lot of ammo I’m good for awhile.
Me: how many rounds you got?
Brother in-law: I have a couple hundred rounds of 9mm
Me: oh cool, so you got enough for a short range visit….
Brother in-law: silently walks away
GENIUS!!!
As much as I'll need but less than I want. Same answer for don't you have enough guns?
"You can stock pile this, you just won't have any money left, at all" Great ending, it had me rolling on the floor.
Lol with todays prices I literally bought a Barrett M95, shooting 50 BMG doesn't cost much more than 6.5 creedmoor these days.
@@caleb30 at my local sportsman’s 50 is cheaper than 6.5
Well everything but the 50 but I can always hope to have one someday. 😂
when the collapse happens paper cash can be used for toilet paper
When money is no good any more, but you have all this ammo !!!
🤣 The "Yay for that" shirt. Love it and love what you do, John. Stay safe through these trying times and God Bless, Brother.
Enjoyed the video, thanks!!
19 year old here, you’re a mentor to me and so many others without knowing it. Always great advice about so many different issues! Thank you sir!
I'm 29 and I agree. Still being mentored by the likes of John Lovell
Oh no, he knows it 🤣 You're talking to tactical Superman John Lovell here. You chose the correct mentor.
I’m 35 same here. Respect the he’ll outta you!! And thank you!!!
Good video
He knows it.
For me it’s
-5.56/223
-9mm
-308
-22LR
-12 gauge
Cause they are most common
NATO rounds are always good to buy.
@@Isaac_5.56x45 yup!
My list exactly.
Mine too definitely
Definitely the same for me and I would throw in 7.62x39 as my wildcard.
This goes through everything! I love it.
Good on you for keeping a straight face talking about 6.5 Creedmoor.
Guessed 4 out of 5, but the 6.5 really surprised me. I really thought 7.62x51 or 7.62x39 would have made it over the 6.5 given the prominence of battle rifles chambered in both, as well as hunting in the '51.
Up until a certain recent sanction that shall go unnamed, I would've suggested 7.62 x 39 as well. But I guess we'll have to swim over to Mother Russia from Alaska if we want enough to be close to a "stockpile". 🙃
While the 6.5 is a great round, there’s a decent amount I’d collect before it. Both 7.62s. .30-06 and maybe even 300/7mm mag just to name a few. A few years down the road things might change. But it’s just not prevalent enough for the average person yet.
I left a similar comment, I have the same lineup, 308 instead of 6.5. 308 is 7.62x51 for those out there not familiar.c51 for those out there not familiar.
@@1973chevypickup Several other countries manufacture the 7.62 x 39, but Russia is just about the only game for 5.45 x 39.
@@Willbkool Yeah, but supply really took a hit without Russia in the game
To answer the question: "How many rounds do I need?" one must project themselves into the future and answer a different question: "When I fire my last round, how many more will I wish I had gotten when they were cheap and plentiful?" We may think they are in short supply and expensive now, but when the stores are closed and shelves are bare, we will think back to the days of plenty.
The .22 LR round may well become the new coin of the realm.
- easy to store
- easy to carry
- hunt food
- trade for food
- protect food
- universal utility
Rim fire
Plus you can make it completely silent
How many rounds? Biden says you don't need more than 30 rounds.
.22 to the moon! 😂
Amen.
I agree with many of the other posts, 308 over 6.5 creed all day long. 308 is cheaper, more plentiful, barrels last way longer and more versatile (yes you CAN make subsonic 308).
I agree with this 100% WITH ONE EXCEPTION- I would choose .308 over the 6.5 creedmore for 2 reasons;
1- availability of bulk military ammo
2- .308 has been around much MUCH longer and, therefore, more people will have that caliber by comparison in terms of being an investment or commodity..
7.62 x 51 NATO will work just fine in a 308, just 2,000 PSI less pressure.
Good idea, but most importantly, stockpile ammo for the weapons you have.
Lol no doubt
@@zacharycampbell7286 But if you do not have these most common chamberings, start trading to get them. Weirdo calibers (that is, anything under the top 3 of class) will disappear immediately in SHTF mode. The 7.62x25 1940s or '50s single stack pistol my buddy just bought as his ONLY pistol, is "just wrong". ;)
@@zacharycampbell7286 7.62x39 is one of my stockpiled calibers, as it is likely the most common rifle caliber on the planet overall. And yes, I have some other calibers. I don't consider them "oddball", just not as popular with the kiddies. There's a reason why the WIn. Model 94 in 30-30 has been around for over a century. ;)
But buying DURING the shortages, that's simply too late. WPS's advice is to be prepared for the NEXT one. I've lived through like 3 of them now.
My last stockpiling buy of .223/5.56 was 2K for $500. That was in March of 2020. Maybe the last order ever of "properly" priced AR ammo on the planet. ;)
Yes buy Ammunition for the guns You have. Buy more Guns for ammo You purchase ( Win Win )
I used to go to auctions. Often they would have firearms. I imagine it was a situation where a shooter or hunter had died, and his widow would consign all of his stuff to the auction house. Besides firearms, there would be everything else a hunter or shooter might have: holsters, reloading equipment, and especially ammunition. There would be collections of ammo, maybe 15-30 partially or half full boxes of wide varieties of calibers in an single auction bidding lot. If at least half the ammo was in calibers I could use for firearms I owned, I would bid on it and buy it. You could get ammo cheaper than at the store, especially compared to now. I'd keep the ammo I could use for myself, and give the rest to friends or family who had guns in those calibers. I was able to get rid of most everything I couldn't use. The very, very few I couldn't I kept for trading and bartering in hard times.
That's the only way I would buy ammo I couldn't use.
The only problem with 6.5 Creedmoor is that it's expensive as hell and hard to find. I'd take .308/7.62x51 over 6.5mm.
Unless you own one.......lol
@@chuckfarley567 If most people have 308 , it would be easier to trade. It doesn't make a lot of sense to have a gun where, when you run out or need to barter, it's not as easy to find or pickup on the battlefield.
I've heard way too many zombies say they want the 6.5 creedmore because of "reduced recoil". If 7.62x51 kicks that hard you need to take up playing with dolls. The creedmore ballistics aren't that much better than 308 to whimsically follow the crowd and jump on the new fad. If you want a really flat shooter that puts some energy downrange go with 7mm rem mag.
@@2Mile0 exactly. The 6.5 is great but isn’t prevalent enough for the average person right now. If you want something that shoots far give me 308, 300/7mm mag or a 30-06 right now. Might change later, but not yet.
If everyone who I’ve ever heard say that exact same sentence bought a 6.5 CM rifle it wouldn’t be so expensive or hard to find lol
Great presentation!!
Good video. I also appreciate your sense of humor.
Like many have said, .308 would have been a really good addition to this list. For AR-10s or bolt action rifles. Still a very usable caliber at sub 1000 distances.
Agreed there are a LOT of firearms chambered in military-esk calibers.
338 is superior.
@@MobileAura But not as available or as cheap.
I want a .243 ar 10, not sure why but it seems like a solid build.
@@spencerwells1328 Just get a drum mag 338 12 inch barrel
In our household I'm always the one telling my husband that we need more freedom seeds! Lol
Gotta love a woman who asks her husband, "Honey, do we have enough ammo?"
When I start getting an order together, my wife always asks me, "Are you sure that's enough?" That's when I double the order!
Wifey said the same thing before everything went haywire. All you can is say, “yes ma’am” and “Damn I love you!”👍🏻
The few of us that could see this coming years ago have planned accordingly for all aspects because when the fight starts we're not going to stop fighting just because of poor planning
@@larrygyger1293 exactly our women have to stand behind us and pass full magazines and put patches up as necessary
@@ouiroc Hopefully, she's standing beside you with her own AR or Dragunov - depending on who is better at the long range shots.😂
Great vid !!!!
thank you for your hard Work.
I Love how He smartly stockpiles the same ammo as me, I just haven't started saving 6.5 cm yet, instead I saved 308, and 30:06, I have told my wife when she complains about ammo the price always goes up, and its not money spent but rather saved as a investment point of purpose , plus its sitting here at home where i can use it whenever I want to barter with especially in crazy times, so I don't get how people say buying ammo to save is wasted money, to be it's a logical investment in crazy times . "Keep your Powder Dry" Godspeed Patriots.
And don't forget the other half of that lesson bud, "keep your pecker hard"
Hmm... 6.5 cm? What's that in your barn, a tank? That's going beyond pew pew, more like BLAM BLAM! 🇺🇲👍😁😎
About 10 years I sold 500 round boxes of Remington 22 ammo that I had for 5 or more years. I got $50 per box. There were stickers on the boxes that I removed before selling for $8.95.
@@martinmaddox5315 better profit than silver or gold, ammo is the best investment
@@davidcruz8667 lost my guns in a noating accident., Im going to buy some of those new high power air guns, with no bass needed, no powder, no primer just air lol
Here in France guns and ammo are very expensive and some calibers highly regulated (like 5,56mm or 9mm) so it's really hard to stockpile ammo like these.
I however have a bunch of 12 gauge and .22LR because... that's the essential :)
You can do 99% of things with just 12ga and .22
All other calibers are fine and fulfill certain roles better, but those two, if there had to be only two, are probably the best overall. If you had a third then I'd wiggle 5.56 in there.
@@WC3fanatic997 There will be a third but probably not 5.56 cause it's highly regulated.
You have to be registered in a shooting club for at least 6 months, have the positive recommendation from the club president with controlled session of shooting at least every two months, then you can buy a gun in 5.56 at 2 times the prices of those in USA.
But that's not all !
You can only buy 2000 ammo a year in this caliber, and only if you own a gun in this caliber, and you cannot own more than 1000 ammo at once.
And that's not all ! You have to renew your request of owning this gun every 5 years, and if you don't renew the registration in a shooting club every year you have to sell or destroy your weapon.
Imagine how i could want to buy an AR15 in France lmao.
🗼🗽
@Brian Fortin I totally agree. Illegal weapons are way more numerous here than legal one. About two illegal weapon for one legal.
Reloading is in fact almost not regulated so one can reload thousands of ammo a year but for regulated ammos like 5.56 you can never have more than a thousand rounds at a given time.
Thanks, John!
Love your videos man. Keep up the good fight.
From going squirell and rabbit hunting I've had a bit of 22 left in ny pockets. I've had rounds left in the washer for over a year. For science. They still fire.
When people caliber bash it’s a big pet peeve of mine. As a LEO Iv seen homicides with .22’s and on the flip side have seen people walk through 45’s. That being said I wouldn’t carry .22 as self defense but there’s a lot more factors than size, you touched on all the points here.
Greet video as always John 🤙🏻
Shoot for the hips and they will stop.
"Theres alot more factors than size"......thats what she didnt say
They are just too poor to afford both calibers.
(BTW I ALWAYS TYPE IN CAPS)
@WPS...U MENTIONED ONLY AUTO ROUNDS...ABSOLUTELY NO WHEEL ROUNDS. DO REVOLVERS NO LONGER EXIST IN THE FUTURE🤔?? LOL..😉
A .22 LR would be actually great... not advisable, but great. It won't hurt everyone's ears and it's possible to dump 10 rounds in ~3 seconds. It probably won't kill the aggressor but will sting like a sunuvabich all over.
Good stuff Jon
I feel the 308 as oppose to the 6.5 Creedmoor (even though I’d rather utilize 6.5), but as far as widely known and used, ya’ know. Great vid!
. 22LR, 9MM, 5.56, 30-06, and 12ga are my go to. Also hope ya'll are selling "yay for that" shirts because I will buy my girl and myself 3 each, minimum lol
As versatile as it is, and I'm a fanboy, I'd lose the '06 and substitute 7.62x39.
/pacha perfect meme
If you had a 22 tcm. It would be good to have
Wait, no one's gonna talk about the "no step on snake" line he just delivered? Idk why, but that's frickin hilarious.
The FBI would like to chat
I missed that, where was it?
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@@grantmartin1852
@1:27
Thanks @@HarrisonCountyStudio! Sometimes it takes my brain a few minutes to get up to speed with John ;) I do remember the Molon Labe crack :)
Very good video .
Well Done!
Agreed with you on everything but the 6.5.
I’d rather have a more common caliber like .30-06 or .270 Winchester.
I was thinking the same thing Tim! Stockpiling common ammo is smarter than specific ammo!
Pretty shur most common is .22 9mm 556/223 and 308
@@bottleservice4963 30.30
@Ethan Mac do some research on the 40 s&w and see what the guys that actually manufacturer those firearms say about that. Little known fact since the 40 s&w is a high pressure round it causes the firearm itself to break down a lot faster making a 40 s&w not a good handgun for long term shooting
And not 762x51 😕
Long live The Warrior Poets💪🏾
You are the man John! Thanks!
Your choices are those of a young man!! Us that are a little older would dispense with a 6.5 creedmore on favor of a 308 or 30_06 ! And the 30-30 is a very capable man stopper and hunting rnd ! Lots of guns in those calibers around too!
I thought that too, at 24y/o, but based on sheer availability the .308 and .30-06 are far better options than the .300 blackout or 6.5CM.
Just an interesting bit of info on this subject. The gun store I work at has piles of .308. It’s easy to get, and lots of variety to choose from, and people rarely ask for it. It’s not nearly as popular as it once was. 6.5 creedmoor, on the other hand, is ALWAYS being asked for, and is much harder to get a hold of and keep in stock. So for an investment/trade/barter item, I would stock up on the 6.5 over the .308. As for which one I would want for an apocalyptic/SHTF scenario, yeah, the .308 for sure. Two different trains of thought there, for two different scenarios.
@@carsonburkholder1548 Or 7.62.
Girly boys like the word Creedmor 308 is way to generic
30-06 started it all. Covers atleast half those needs. Still need my 22lr and 9mm.
"If you stockpile this, you will not have any money left... at all." HAHAHAHA outstanding.
That's awful to be honest. Hah
Ammo will be worth more than gold
It's possible that our money will soon be worth nothing anyways. If the US collapses, so does the dollar. I'd rather have ammo, non parishable food, and precious metals to rely on. I know this is all a doomsday scenario and some people will say we are fear mongering. But it has happened before. Rome fell, Cuba is falling. With the incompetent leadership we have now, it's possible that the US could fall.
"Long live the 300 Blackout!"
However, I'm with Jonathan Wick, below, 6.5CM is a fantastic round, but it isn't a good hedge against the dollar or emergencies for the simple reason that it isn't as widely used or in as wide circulation as standard military ammo. Better bet is .308/7.62x51. After all the basics are taken care of, however, can't recommend 6.5 enough. It's a real zinger. Other than that, however, start looking at standard/common hunting rounds, like 30-06, 30-30, .270 Rem, 300WM, 7mm RM (massive uptick in popularity over the last couple decades), and 45-70 (will do work and there's a LOT of lever-actions out there for it)...but only get them if you've got firearms for them, UNLESS you've just got play money and have zero interest in gold/silver (can't recommend silver coins enough) or crypto. ;-)
6.5CM is so niche it'd be worthless
Yeah I’d bet on there being way more .308 than 6.5 out there.
If you want a tactical advantage the choice is simple.
soooo those who own 6.5 creedmore rifles will pay a premium. duh.
That 7mm Rem Mag aint no joke and recoil is still pretty manageable without being a Masochist as recoil wise it falls in between the 30-06 and 300 Win Mag which starts to get a bit stout recoil wise for most shooters. But like you I havent found the 7.62x51 to be all that lacking, its one of the cheaper rounds to reload, has a track record of picking up the check for a few decades now and very efficient!
I love the content!!!
Good information Sir. Thank you for the video.
This is madness John! Why would I need to stockpile ammunition when I live in a world where I can trust that my government has my best interests in mind and I can trust my fellow man? Oh, wait a minute...
😝
Trump took your bump stock away and you still vote for him didn't you? Oh wait...
whether you take the red pill or the blue pill doesn’t change the fact that there is no Spoon.
You funny Guy! :)
@@flyingdutchman1352 🤡
I always chuckle when phoney news media speaks about a thousand rounds as if it's a huge amount. You'd be lucky if that lasts two or three sessions at the range.
Exactly. 1k rounds is a critically low amount for those of us that spend significant time at the range.
Me too. I think they make a big deal out of it just to shame those of us who have more than what they report. Last time I recall them doing that was for some guys in Colorado. When you took the total rounds they reported and divided it between each individual in their group and three firearms each (handgun, rifle, shotgun) it barely was enough for 3 magazines for each firearm they had. Talk about a nothing sandwich!
seriously...
They assume every round is a Kill. Ignorance
You can buy 1000 round boxes at the store. It’s not a huge quantity at all
what a great video and so entertaining
You were correct! I thought I was subscribed but I wasn't. So I confirmed and am now subscribed. Thanks for the great videos.
That feeling when you already have all of John’s preferred rounds stockpiled.
I'm so far ahead of him I'm behind him.....LOL......I'm old enough to remember the ammo scare of 1994.
Have all of them except the .50 cal. Also have 30-30 & 30.06.
Don't know why never gonna use them 😴
If you actually stock 50 bmg you are a boss
@@suntzu5836 Jesus, was that pre buying ammo off of the internet? Sounds like a nightmare.
"Stockpiling 9mm is crucial because that's the caliber the Warrior Poet signature pistol comes in." -John Lovell, probably 😄😁😆
.22LR
.38 / .357
.45ACP
.223 / 5.56mm (whichever is available)
12-gauge
Those are my go-to calibers; at one time or another, I've owned each, and qualified Expert on all but the .22 (they don't qualify on that).
What about the 22 magnum???
Wow! You just went through my favorite calibers.
I feel the same... seems like John was eyeing up my cache of ‘dozens and dozens’ when he made this video :-). I would suggest 7.62x39 and .308 on that list too
It just got really hard for 762x39
I stockpile both of those and also 7.62 x 54 for the millions of Mosins out there
(BTW I ALWAYS TYPE IN CAPS)
@WPS...U MENTIONED ONLY AUTO ROUNDS...ABSOLUTELY NO WHEEL ROUNDS. DO REVOLVERS NO LONGER EXIST IN THE FUTURE🤔?? LOL..😉
@@ethan.amosberg835 Nah. Plenty of countries produce it. And that doesn't take effect for 2 yrs with Russia. So I see Russia setting up shop in another country under the wire. May even ship through China. As they are our bestest friends now w/ China Joe. Russia is no dummy. lol I buy it from Norma. Brass casings & still cheaper option.
@@m1a1abrams93 Joe will just ban the importation of ammo. The guy should be charged with treason on so many levels
“There’s no such thing as too much money, or too many bullets...” - Valediction, Robert B. Parker
Love it bro!!!!
thanks!
Buy it cheap! Stack it deep!
Love it!!!!
Yes
"If you stockpile this, you won't have any money anymore" love that. At least if I did that I could tell my wife I won't be able to buy anymore guns haha
Reload, it's definitely possible. You would be surpised how much ammunition you can stockpile if you just reload.
Great poetry! Nice presentation.
That was fun!
My granddaddy always said “when you think you got enough, double it”. He was talking about firewood but hey same thing.
I've heard "make it three times bigger" in relation to gathering firewood. Good advice indeed.
Never barter ammo. Never. There are other things for bartering (lighters, nip bottles of whiskey, aspirin, etc.). Never barter ammo.
I personally would have replaced the 6.5 creedmore with the 308/7.62x51 and I would have replaced the 300 black out with the 762x39. Both the 308 and 762 have hundreds of times more ammunition that the 6.5 creedmore and the 300Blackout
I agree and I have both. If I have to bug out the 6.5 Creedy and the .300 Dark stay in the safe, the AK and the .308 are going in the truck. Never, ever, underestimate the power of a motivated killer with a .22 LR in his hands!
Agreed
And the best part is you can pretty much find 762x39 in all parts of the world as well so you’d have ammo anywhere you’d go basically
@@j.muckafignotti4226 I heard a story about a Chechen sniper doin work in the Middle East. Causing chaos and sinkin headshots at 300 yards with a suppressed .22lr
My renters paid for several months in 5.56mm and .308 last year and I was lucky enough to catch a few sales before the shortages of ammo in bulk and would grab what I could when I could.
.22LR is an awesome round, as well. Thankfully, I been buying then over the years for a while. No big stockpile but I can go varmint hunting and not starve, lol..
I'd have put 7.62x39 on the list, considering the prevalence of SKS and AK 47 rifles.
I wouldve added this over 50 cal..
7.62's ballistics suck, also here in America 5.56 is more common, if you had to choose only 1 battle rifle round 9 outta 10 would choose 5.56 (I made that last part up but I bet it close to true)
@@spread4me75 Consider the expected circumstances. A chest-size target at a reasonable distance won't care which one it gets hit with. But I'm with the late Col Jeff Cooper on this one, .308 is arguably the best for overall general use, particularly in North America.
@@spread4me75 its probably mostly true but the ak is gaining alot of ground in the US of A. Personally I'm grabbing my arsenal krink in 7.62 for home defense hands down also for Bush wookie-ing around in Appalachia
@@proudlyamerican2764 I dont think 7.62 os gaining popularity in the US, infact I believe it's the other way around, more and more are choosing 5.56, its the most common round in the US, I dont have statistics but I work and play in the firearms industry and talk to a whole lot of ppl, I dont ever hear anyone say I'm going to switch to 7.62x39... All anecdotal I know but its my true belief
So basically you're saying don't invest in stocks, bonds, gold and silver. Instead invest in brass and lead!
Heck yeah!
Invest in precious metals like brass and lead.
The new "precious metals" :-)
He did not say that.
I’m a financial advisor.
No, he’s saying this is your other emergency fund. You also need cash, stocks, bonds and mutual funds.
When the time comes you need gold for currency the lead and brass will be worth more. I think we've all seen what primers can cost! They're worth more than their weight in gold already
Lolllll that's was an awesome video the jokes 🤣 were on point as well as the education. Thank you.
Amen John! Your coverage of ammo choices is spot on brother! Because America!!
Over all a great list! My one 'gripe'... Not surprised, but slightly bemused that you went with the 'popular' 6.5 Creedmoor over both the 308 and the 30-06 who, today, are much more in demand. It may one day unseat them both, but today, I think the others have a better 'resale' value and wider followings.
6.5CM has already fallen out of favor by most precision shooters because of the lower barrel life. The barrel life is why it is better to pick a 300 Win Mag over a 6.5 if you need flatter trajectory, especially since 308 actually outperforms 6.5 terminally at close range, so even if you have to resort to a bolt action, at longer ranges the loss of speed is compensated by the flatter trajectory leading to faster hits on target.
Great video! I keep stocking up every time I am at the store and they have any in stock at a decent price. My wife rolls her eyes but maybe someday she just might understand… then again I don’t get the need for different pillows for every holiday and season and all the other decorating stuff. To each their own I suppose
What you are doing is the exact opposite of stockpiling money. Great plan.
Bro, well said, same here!
I just realized I need more friends like this guy.
The big thing I’ve thought with 22r is longevity over all, what I mean is if things really go from bad to worse and you have to sustain an ability to resist aggression. At the end of the day 22lr is not as effective, however there is a point where if someone has 10x the amount of ammo you do they can outlast others in sustained aggression. Think about it like this, if group A has 3,000 rounds of 556 they cannot sustain a fight as long as group B who has 30,000 rounds of 22lr. Even if those 30,000 are anemic, they can stop aggression and quantity can make you last longer than quality in some cases.
Being a bit of a Fudd I would swap the 6.5 creedmore for 308. More barter friendly than 6.5. I would also swap the 300 blackout for 7.62 x 39 for the same reason. But then again Some people are stock piling all these calibers already. Along with black powder and flint.
Being a non-Fudd that was my list as well. I love 6.5 and am starting to have some inappropriate thoughts about 300blk, but I feel that 308 and 7.62x39 are more common here and therefore easier to use for barter.
Just do a list of 7 and have them all. It's also possible to have calibers you don't shoot (for that exact reason of barter)
I said the same thing even though I am not a fan of the 308 but it can be necked down to 243 and 7mm08 which I am fans of both so it gives you some more option
Agree. 6.5 Creedmore is just not all that common
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Yes.
I haven't even started the video but my bets are: .22LR, 9mil, 45ACP, Shotgun Bird shots and .556. Let's see if i got at least one of these right
Replace 45 with 357 Magnum and that is my list exactly!
I haven’t started yet either but totally agree with you.
@@Isaac_5.56x45 I’m with you Isaac
@@leoc3492 Awesome 👍
I am partial to 12 guage to I would like to add 12 guage hollow point discarding sabot slugs, for the win?
Great channel brother 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks
"reach out and touch someone"
That sounds incredibly gentle.
It's not.
Well, maybe at .338 Lapua's 2000 yards. ;)
7.62 NATO could be included. I like the .45 ACP as well. And yes, 12 gauge all the way. A .22 and a 12 gauge will probably do everything you will ever need in life. I prefer the .22 mag, but heh.
If a man bought a .22, a 7.62 NATO/.308, and a 12 gauge shotgun, they would handle virtually 100% of everything he needed in life in the lower 48 states. IMO.
Pistols, well- 9mm or .45 ACP are hard to beat. 6.5 Creedmore? I would pick the 7.62 NATO or .45 ACP over that as a barter item, though your location may dictate selection!
I concur with pistol caliber. 9mm and .45 ACP both have their pros and cons, but are both good options, so for the most part, which one you choose comes down to personal preference. 9mm definitely has an edge in supply since it's become the standard cartridge for most military/police forces, but the .45 ACP is still common enough to be relevant in a barter situation. 7.62 Nato is definitely a good rifle option and very common, but I would argue .30-06, despite the lack of advantage in ballistics, is a more versatile caliber in terms of the types of game you can take. The bullet weight ranges from around 110 grains for small game to 220 grains for the largest game in North America. As you said though, your location plays a huge role in your decision. As long as you have at least ammo for a .22, a pistol, an intermediate rifle, a large rifle, and a shotgun, you should be in good shape.
I would have switched 6.5 for 308 because of the ammo options.
Yup, .308 instead...
The shotgun is the most versatile weapon you can have . The ammo choices are varied from rubber ball , buckshot , slugs , exotic shells ., etc,,low recoil , magnum ..
6.5 Creed is replacing the 308 in general popularity, only going to be more so in a few years.
Good shit yo
"LOVE, LOVE, LOVE" everything you put out bro! Although I agree with the trolls WRT 308 vs 6.5, I know and respect you have your reasons.
I proudly sport my WPS gear as well, so, "yay for that!" 😉
Good choices, the .308 would also be one of my choices. As an old soldier familiar with the FN FAL, it's capabilities and versatility are well documented.
I was thinking 308 would make the list.
@@cobrajeff96 Especially since there are a lot more rifles out there for .308/7.62x51 and I've been able to find it throughout all this far more often than 6.5Creed. In fact I think I've seen 6.5 on the shelf once in the past 18 months. I routinely pick up a couple boxes of .308 or 762 NATO every month at my local stores. In fact shot the .308's this past year more than the AR's because that's what I could get ammo for and it was cheaper than 5.56 for a while. And there are still more hunting options for .308.
Yes, I dug my L1A1 out of the safe and have been stockpiling ammo for it. The 6.5 guys better start reloading because it's not as popular as .308/7.62 NATO and will be much harder to find.
@@Willbkool That's exactly what I was thinking. Not sure how they compare ballistic wise between 308 and creedmore, maybe the 6.5 is VASTLY superior. But if theyre pretty close it might be better to stock 308 for the trade opportunity. Speaking of trade, did you know you can get penicillin from a tractor supply store? That will be worth it's weight in gold if the defecation hits the oscillation.
@@Sophistry0001 Creedmoor typically fairs better at longer range due to the smaller profile. Similar energy dispersement from what I've read (depending on your loads of course).
Dead one, John! When you started with the 22lr, I was like this is why I love John!
Awsome!
Personally, I'd go with .22LR, 9mm luger, .45 ACP, 12 gauge and .223. They're all common calibers, and they're likely to be in demand in case anything goes down. Also, it's very likely you own a gun in several of those calibers, if not all five. You can argue that different cartriges have better ballistics, or are better suited to a certain purpose, sure. But the ammunition and gun you have is better than the one you don't, and these are easy and cheap to stockpile large quantities of, and in very common use. They'll be in huge demand during a shortage.
I would get rid of the. 45 ACP and add 7.62x39.
@@freedom4all108 Ehh, that's a commie caliber. Besides, lots of Americans own a 45.
I agree with all but 1, I'd probably go with 308/7.62 over the Creedmoor only bc it seems easier to get hold of these days when ammo isn't exactly plentiful on the shelves. But to each their own..
Let's replace creed Moore with the 300 wind mag and throw away the 50 Also. 308 any day
I LOVE the humor, thanks John!
It will go through Everything ! 😁
I hit the big seven oh when you published this. Thanks for the info. It was a nice birthday present. May the Good Lord continue to bless you and yours.
So thrilled to see you started with 22lr. It amazes me how many people overlook the importance of the 22lr for survival, especially if you live in a small game rich environment. I'm on point with the choices here, except for the 6.5 creedmoor. I do understand why someone would go with that cartridge over .308, but my personal choice is .308. Mainly due to cost and already owning several platforms chambered in .308. Sadly, I fail to stockpile much 12 gauge. It's always an afterthought, but certainly something I know I should work on. Another cartridge I use to go after was 7.62x39. It WAS cheap, it's fun for plinking, and is a decent hunting round in it's own right. I don't do any 300 blackout. Not against it, just haven't gotten into it. Haha, 50 cal, I wish I could afford to stockpile it, but not happening.
I like how you're lighthearted about this subject. Appropriately. Some people's attitudes should be the butt of jokes!
I guessed your list almost perfectly, only having the .308 instead of the Creedmore. IMO 308 is a much more versatile and common round, and if part of this conversation is using ammunition as currency, common is good. What are the chances you'd come across on the road someone looking for creedmore rounds? Everyone though, will be looking for 308. EDIT: I just read through some of the comments and it seems my thought was already a pretty popular one. Cheers, gents.
This is the exact reason I jumped right to the comments. No way should 6.5 be chosen over 308. Everyone and their grandpa will have a 308 hunting rifle in the closet. 1 out of 2 shooters will probably have a 308. 1 out 1000 might have a 6.5. It's a great round, but don't dare "stockpile" 6.5.
The Creedmoor and the omission of 7.62x51 left me scratching my head as well. If the shit gets real, I'll grab my AR-10 or M1A over a 10# bolt action that fires hard-to-find $2/round freedom seeds every single time.
Honestly 30-06 is my big rifle caliber there good for long range hunting among other stuff
That argument was good until 2019 but now, everyone shoots 6.5. Flatter shooting at longer distance. Crazy popular round over the past five years. I’d say that and the 300 BO have gained the most popularity. I’d dare to say 30/06 would be a better round than both due to the fact everyone’s grandpa had one.😂
@@claynadams18 I have a 6.5 creedmoor. So does everyone who’s bought a hunting rifle in the last five years. Don’t think you people realize just how popular that round has become. It’s on Johns top 5 now so take it for what it is.
22LR, 38 Super, 308 Win, 44 Mag, 12 Ga. The 44 is used on both my revolvers and lever gun. Honorable mention is 45-70, the all-purpose, do anything, unmake things, round.
It's nice to finally see someone put 12ga on their list. You watch other stockpile videos of days past, and everyone would say "no need to stockpile 12ga... it's EVERYWHERE and always will be."
Yeah.... sure.
12 Gauge is a must. Such a wife variety of stuff you can do with it. I have skeet shooting shotguns to the DP-12, to the Beretta 1301. All have their own purpose.
there's no need of a shotgun, period. it's just for shooting birds on the wing and nobody needs to do that.
@@dranelittle7726 The 12 gauge was one of the most devastating trench warfare weapons used. It immediately disables a person due to trauma caused. It was still used in Iraq breaching houses. And it can kill a deer to provide food. So it is good for self defense at short range like within a house, or short distance hunting. To say there is NO need is silly. Might be lower on your priority list but lets not be dismissive of the might 12 gauge.
@@dbrennan1523 so what? none of that has any application for civilians in shtf. You'll have to be stealthy, or you'll be dead. Those who favor shotguns do so cause they know very well that they dont and wont practice enough with a silenced autorifle. If shtf, you can' t be above ground or have a fire during daytime. You can't make noise or show a light at night. Doing those things will get you shot. The only rational thing to do is to be where you wont have conftrontations, which is in a tunnel in the woods, dug AFTER shtf, so nobody knows about it. Have some spiderholes, pre-shtf so you can get out of sight and tunnel horizontally. 10m is long enough, with a spiderhole at the other end, and you can create that in a week, to include disposing of the excavated dirt.. Rig .22lr noisemakers to both lids. If dogs or men are at one lid, move to the other and either silently shoot 1-2 of them, or toss the pipe bombs and the smoke grenades, move 10 miles, dig another tunnel. 1 ft of dirt over your head. You'll be able to come back now and then to access your caches.
@@dranelittle7726 Ok Rambo.