My Review of Diablo 4 After Playing Over 500 Hours
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2023
- Shroud tells the truth and gives his honest review of Diablo 4 after spending so many hours playing this game on and off-stream.
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What did you guys think of diablo 4?
Btw, did mention they should increase storage space and the idea of shared storage between characters. Just maybe not infinite storage.
Definitely expected more from Season 1 but I just enjoy playing the game and talking to chat
First sir ❤
Enjoyed up to first capstone, dungeon-only grind got tiring really fast. Fun game, don't like the grind loop.
play pubg again!
After nerf of survi it's hot garbage. Rework imprinting system, push QoL changes from D III to D IV, most of them actually were good, D IV lacks some of them, special items for Uber Lilith like maybe 900+ power item levels as reward for killing her. Fix broken builds which can kill Uber Lilith under 2 minutes. At Season 3 maybe it will be playable, but right now it's pointless to play this game.
Loving this game❤
He has a life size statue of Iron Man. Did you expect him to have a good take?
True. He is absolutely disconnected from the community.
he's disconnected from sane world dude living on 24/7 drugs@@Lord3nder
honestly :D not really especially because hes known as FPS game guy not diablo and other Action RPG game guy. (i expected pretty much what man said told him why i felt it was poor though check out this vid the guy makes alot of fair points as to why diablo 4 is a terrible game by todays standards ua-cam.com/video/guLdxvf4Wfw/v-deo.html )
@@Lord3ndershroud thinks of himself as *the guy* but doesnt know what hes actually talking about
Whats wrong with Iron man? 😂
I’m pretty sure that Elden Ring has no cash shop. Larian Studios doesn’t implement cash shops either.
And the cash shop is completely cosmetic and optional. The game is also only online, much like a MMO, so having the slightest cash shop is not surprising. The campaign and content in the map is more than enough content for $70. We're getting seasons with additional stuff added into the game for free. Look at all of the positives, stop being so laser-focused on what you consider negative.
Elden ring is not an online service game with content updates.
But it has 10x more content than D4
Cashshops in fullprice titles shouldnt be ok. Blizzard checking constantly boundaries and people just being ok with it is one of the big problems in todays gaming.
@@raidan6 ???????????
"I love diablo!.....................so heres all these promos and merch I'm doing"
All these lazy pos streamers do
Exactly not a review at all.
First person on the internet that is defending paying real $ for virtual stash space.
The problem with games being a cash grab is that while the price increases, the quality DECREASES
Quality is better that 99% of arpgs. Gameplay loop will probably be better in a year or two
@@isnogood-oh yeah it so awesome, especially after lvl 75, when you have so many new things to do, its so fun 😂😂😂
@@isnogood-You probably will be smarter in 1 year or 2.
@@isnogood- when the 1% left is a f2p... not really looking that good
@@Mrlocofan dont call it f2p when you have spent money on it
There is a huge difference between a normal game and a crash grab game. There is a world of difference between developers and artists and the marketing department and the financial department. One tries to make a good game, the other tries to maximazie profits.
So no, not every game is a cash grab. They do try to make a profit understanably but it's not the same thing as a cash grab. Don't forget that Shroud is a millionaire and his experiance and value of money is different than most of us.
$70 bucks for a great campaign, and more to do in the map and post-game. I've put 200 hours into the game and I just got it a couple weeks ago, and I'll surely be playing more. Future seasons with added fun, for free. I'd say I have my money's worth. The price of a ticket for a football game that I can only see once costs way more, hardly hear anyone bitching about that.
@@VTM9126 I bought a football 3 years with countless hours of fun for just 20$ plus another 50$ for the shoes and it still holds up well today. The cost of a good gaming rig 1-2k$, forget about the cost of D4 lol.. I'd say I have my moneys worth, in fact my value is more then 100x better then the one you got with added benefit of much cheaper maintenance and operation. Also there are tons of football games played every single day that are free to watch in person and on TV.
I think the point is more that the phrase of saying a 'game is a cash grab' is meaningless; all games are products that are sold for money. If you have specific problems with how a game doesn't respect your time or is poor value for money or has predatory tactics then that is what you should state. Use specific criticisms instead of meaningless buzzwords.
@@jamiea9047 There are plenty games that their sole purpose is to just make money, with some gameplay slapped into them, notably many mobile and gatcha games. You cant tell me that an indie game like Hades and a game like Clash of Clans have similar methods and goals when it comes to profit.
@@VTM9126 "$70 bucks for a great campaign"
kekw
Elden Ring isn’t a cash grab??No micro transactions/seasons/paid DLC, just a pure ass game that released fully finished on launch.
Elden Ring doesn't get content updates.
@@raidan6 Elden Ring (no content update) > D4 S1 (season 1 content) lulz
as if new content makes D4 better
@@raidan6 Good live service is a failure. I want a complete game at launch, which Elden Ring is.
@@raidan6 And yet youtuber can make more content with ER than D4, sound cool, right.
Elden is boring and overrated
Lol rich guy isn’t worried about cash. Imagine that.
It’s 70$. How poor do you have to be to not afford 70$.
@@seandevlin4059the game's price tag was never the point here, wtf you on ????
I am probably the most frugal player ever. Never bought a single skin except maybe 10 yrs ago in CSGO a couple case keys. Bought the base version of Tarkov even though EOD is literally pay to win. Never buy a battle pass in games.. All this to say Diablo 4 is NOT a cash grab at all. Not even close. They regularly release content for free with the exception of the expansion but the base game was well worth $70. I made like 8 characters and got hundreds of hours out of it with new content regularly. Stop slandering good games when shit like COD and BF2042 exist lol
@@ELY-qg2vn Diablo 4 was a 70$ movie that you played once, and they forced you to play over and over (seasons) if you wanted to be immersed in new 'content'.. 70$ is a bad price for a movie... and diablo 4 is a 40 or 50$ game if we only account for the value of the content, they abused the diablo franchise with 3, with diablo 4 they've buried it.. if they try too make a diablo 5 in like 8 years.. they'll be trying their hands at resurrection.
the cope is so deep here
All aboard the hate train! The point of this video is to piss off the people on board. Lol
@@VTM9126 epic sauce troll mode #theydosometrollingasmillionaires
@@Nomad_OGare you mentally ok?
@@ganjajumanji2450 no
@@VTM9126 How's this aging?
Stash space argument is mind boggling
indeed, I thought shroud to be above being bought for a review (since...he's got money) but this is BEYOND curious, their DEVS know it's an issue, it's why they're implementing another stash tab as we speak (and either they made up some BS about how adding more would complicate memory issues like the memory leak they fixed recently...or so they say...OOOOR...they've gotta fire their engineer who coded this crap system and hire Last Epoch's engineers with their Activision/soon to be Microsoft money.) Last Epoch has more stash space than some people KNOW, because they bought 20 tabs with IN GAME gold at a low price and said, i'm good. You don't have to go that far, but at the moment you can have 10 characters. With 4 stash tabs total, that'd mean that if you rolled 2 of each class (over time, or if you're hardcore about the game, maybe you've already done that)...EACH character would be allotted on average LESS than HALF a single stash tab's worth of space, which will be upgraded to EXACTLY half a stash tab's space on average per character whenever they get around to adding ONE stash tab. This is egregious.
People shaming the game over stash tabs is mind boggling.
@@VTM9126 bro it's an arpg. Every other arpg gives you many stash tabs to collect shit. This isnt some new concept. Plus this isnt the only thing they've done that makes no sense.
@@emarbeats6896 There are stash tabs. 4 in fact. I've used 3 of them, and they're not even full, 2 of them are barely even half full. If you're stocking up on gems, you're a moron, you can recycle your gems. If you're stocking up on useless gear, you're a moron, do some inventory management. There's enough room for different builds.
Stacking up on hearts? Look through them, you probably have duplicates. get rid of some, you're not going to be switching rings and amulets that often.
It's that simple. People throwing fits over stash tabs is just a reason to bitch at this point. What will it be in the next few weeks. I'm sure asmongold will let everyone know.
@@VTM9126 The Contrarian Copes. Poetic really
Some real bad generalizations regarding every game being a cash grab. Some exist soley to make cash while others focus heavily on the gameplay experience. There is a scale where a game falls any where inbetween. When someone complains something is a cash grab, they aren't saying there is no intention to make money, they are saying that they focused too heavily on making money and not enough on the the game being great.
Saying POE is a cash grab if this game is a cash grab is wild, you’re lost in the sauce and the sauce is as bland as water
There is feces in the water
Imagine saying that, how many YEARS (almost 10 i think) did it take for POE to implrement Korac's Vault (their version of a season pass with an actual GOOD looking set, crafted with some love/forethought awesome animations, not just some clothes, but with cool special effects like boots that have cool flame trails or crazy stuff that glows when you crit...making them interesting and to some people WORTH it). Meanwhile Diablo's barrier to ENTRY is 70 USD, and they've got just pretty much all the mobile/f2p transactions ON TOP of that box price with the exception of GACHA style gouging (which you KNOW they'd implement if they hadn't ALREADY done it in Diablo Immortal and gotten massive PR flack for it...because when you're talking cash grab...the VERY DEFINITION OF A CASH GRAB IN 2023 is Diablo Immortal...period).
poe gives you so much currency to encourage or push that it compresses space for everything and that costs you more than 100 $ if you are a casual minimum you buy 50 $ to be able to play " comfortable " , good luck with poe2 = overatch 2 with gay fan graphical fixes
@@alexfederico4066 There is a dude who is consistently top of ladder on an account that has spent $0. The amount of space given for free is huge compared to what D4 gives you. Cope harder
Diablo a cash grab for selling transmog ??? Hahah delusional people will always cry about shit. QQ
They should implement what they did in Diablo 3 to Diablo 4 with builds... let us have the option of saving a build, so when we try something new, we can revert back to the original build
There’s a pretty big difference between Tarkov and Diablo IV I’d say
yeah its definitely a different game
I'd say its similar to apex
The point was that having a limited stash and being forced to choose what to keep and what to not keep is part of the game, just like in tarkov. How are you this fucking dense ofcourse the games are different but he was comparing the stash not the whole game.
personally i was getting more enjoyment out of my d3 seasonal
I think you are generalizing "every game is a cash grab" by that I mean yes businesses have to do what's in their best interest for profits, but some businesses do that while still being fair to their player base. Diablo is a good game but it is way more monetized than POE. That's just a fact. You can put them both in the same bracket of "for profit" but some companies also fall into the "fair for players" also. Don't forget that Shroud, especially when you consider those in less fortunate financial situation
I've only played PoE a little bit. one thing i noticed more than anything is how much the store is plastered everywhere in the game. its always trying to try to get you to buy microtransactions. that, coupled with buying account upgrades like stash space AND just the sheer amount of more types of microtransactions in general, makes PoE in my opinion, way more of a cash grab than D4 is even close to being
Cosmetics? That’s crazy
@@theBlackbriar you don't know what you are talking about. Diablo is way worse and its a 70-100$ game instead of being free to play. What an ignorant, uninformed trash comment.
Yeah it sucks, $20+ for a cosmetic in diablo 4 shop. The disblo 4 shop also takes away all the potential cool skin designs because anything that would look brilliant will automatically be sold in the shop for currency, rather than something you earn in game. Diablo 4 isn't pay to win but it's pay to play, just my means that you have to pay for content that should already be in the game. The base armor skins that are free look horrible compared to some of the priced ones.
Inhale more copium bud, the level of brain for poe fanbois lmaooo. I play poe for 5 yrs now and i will tell you the truth not only is a cash grab is a pay to play. You are literally playing a demo without paying there. These people hahahahaah GGG Fair muahahahaha
imagine needing 500 hours to know this game was unfinished on launch, but got to get that twitch bag and be a yes man.
imagine using the word imagine in 2024 lmfaooo
Shroud: D4 is not a cash grab.
Shroud: D4 themed giveaway
Shroud just needs to shut up and play games. Most of his takes around games in general are terrible.
@@sujimayne actually true, people respect him because he plays good but he doesn't understand what makes a game, a "good game"
@@practic4l349 I’m sure you know what makes a good game good.
@@ramby4436 70$ for an unfinished product is definitely not a good game
Bro said a larger stash would hurt build crafting...make it make sense. Maybe it'll hurt the casual player who cannot understand it. A bigger stash encourages you to collect loot, revisit your spoils, it allows players to become acquatinted with their favorite gear and stats, grow attached to their characters and builds and reminisce about how they got it. Limiting the stash pigeonholes your playstyles and does not incentivize us to branch out, we must stay committed to the path we chose or have to start builds over again.What you said about build crafting still applies if the stash is bigger, you still have choices, you still can be intentional, it's just optional, which I thought the devs wanted. Comparing it to Tarkov is a big misrepresentation because the inventories are meant to accomplish different things.
Revisit your spoils? You want a stash full of stuff you don't use? If you're an altoholic, **maybe** there's a need for more stash space. With 4 characters preseason I was starting to feel the pressure, but with 1-2 it doesn't feel bad at all. Stop holding onto garbage, sell it or salvage it.
@@Vagitarian01 Why would you store it if it's garbage?? You'll store an item because you saw a stat that can synergize to it later on if you managed to get another item... Also it's an option.. If you don't want to use the Stashes then you do you but I doubt anyone will complain if they added 10 stashes because that's what alot of people who play this game alot wants/needs to facilitate theory-crafting... Adding such feature does barely any harm to the game as well and make looting more fun..
@@vivid8979 You can fit 16 full sets of barb gear with room to spare for gems in the current stash.
JFC. Stop playing video games and take spelling lessons
This dude is way out of touch when it comes to a game like this.
I enjoyed the game until the patch with the following complaints. Initially I found stash space, deaths resulting from disconnects, the console player damage nerf and lack of target farming the most disappointing aspects of the game. I also felt somewhat punished by the developers for being a solo player, doubly so on console. I played hardcore at launch on Necro and reached level 100 during the pre-season. I was very excited for season one until the patch hit. Following the patch my interest in the title gradually fell to nothing. I have not played in several days and am very disappointed in the title in general. One word to describe the title would be disappointed. I thought there was a lot of potential and there may still be albeit, I will not know because I have lost all interest in the game. I want it to be a great title I just dont think it is right now. It needs a lot of work to be worth the time investment.
wait im a console player buying diablo and i will be on pc probably playing it if i do get it within the next week so what is the console player damage nerf? i dont wanna buy it on console if theyre gonna pull some console shortchange bs like game companies like to do with every game
Basically you stopped because you were no longer op, got it
@@pandora8999 So someone else disliking your game gets you this triggered? Got it.
@@pandora8999 No I stopped because the game blows. 👍
@@astral9807 I apologize for the late response. The nerf for console players was around half critical hit damage to compensate for the over powered auto aim assist that console players have. I stopped playing shortly after the season one patch so it may be different. I would definitely play on PC if I were you. It was a substantial nerf.
there is no such thing as a stash space game, people will make mules if necessary
Cashgrab is quite literally minimal effort / scam in order to essentially "take the money out of your pocket". It is not CREATING A PRODUCT TO SELL FOR PROFIT. Holy shit I can't stand people that try to warp the definition of words like these. They're so dumb.
So every game is a cash grab, but this game is not a cash grab lol wut
Insane levels of cope in this video.
yah wtf was that LUL
Sponsored by lizzard
when every game is a cash grab,
no game is a cash grab. but other games are crash grabs, and this isn't. perfectly sound, definitely not moving the goalposts.
He said that if this game is a cash grab, then every game would be considered a cash grab
with all of the class nerfs, I had a solution that could become a norm for the live stream. Have the team put together a video of how they built each class while completing a tier 100 nightmare dungeon. Show off how they play without Uber uniques in current patch.
Thanks for the upgrade on my comment. I feel if we all tweet this message, it will change everything. I tweeted this to every Diablo director's page. I feel this makes it to where they understand where we are coming from or makes it more enjoyable for the community with classes. Even if they fudge the video, we can tell because someone will make the build and see if they fudged the video or not. No matter how you look at it, it's a win-win.
Pretty sure anyone who played the beta and saw the static world and shoed in mmorpg elements knew what was coming. You will not be allowed to feel OP in diablo 4 for long its going to always balance the fun out of your character.
Level Scaling will always take the fun out of your character because you can’t take the initiative in where u want to go. All the enemies auto level to your level so that Level 1 dungeon rat will still take 5 hits to kill at level 100.
its not a review its rambling
this "review" is a money grab but every review is a money grab so its not a money grab
where do they announce winner?
Please if I can get an answer about what content is available to play in Couch Co op. Like there are seasons now can you play seasons to in couch co op or you can just play story in couch co op and that's it.
-Shroud “am I the only one when I find a piece of hair in my food I just take it out and eat the food?”
I genuinely did not expect shroud to have such a bad take on d4
Same here lol.... a bit disappointed
Shroud has bad takes on everything. He could never be a game designer. He knows how to play games and understands their mechanics, but he can never see the bigger picture and think like a designer.
He is a money hungry loser that obviously want more viewers with saying its good. The game is total trash.
@@MicheleKalina704how could anyone assume someone is smart because someone is good at "Fps"? I dont know anything about this guys background but im pretty sure this guy is one of Those guys who dropped out college to pursue their career at one game i assume.
@@imjonathan6745 didn’t know going to college is what makes you smart.
Damn I wanna try this game
But aboutbthe giveaway
I wanna know when did it start?
The exact date please.
I was there when shroud at top with 50-80k subs on twitch. oh I miss the that day..
Dudes always been a tryhard scrub.
PoE is free... This game is 70 dollars......
You don't know how companies do it do ya? Wait till you see buying stash tabs and currency tabs and those convenince perks you get bombaded with in the end game
@@emmanuelactubjr7054 And how much money you need to buy said stash tabs and currency tabs to feel comfortable? 20$ at max.
Lets be honest Diablo4 is going to be compared to POE forever now. It's the main competitor out there. POE has basically endless stash tabs if you want to buy them. Nothing wrong with unlimited amount of stash tabs!
I was watching twitch and thought I'd put stream list from popular and scroll down to see first sorc and I literally found conduit before sorc, Jesus.
I use a lot of the stash space because I procrasinate and just throw everything in there, but when I finally sort everything and only keep the god rolls I find that the stash isnt too bad right now.
This game is not a cash grab... It's a super major cash grab compared to POE.
Oh boy, Shroud being serious?
@@queteimporta7262 Thanks for imparting your wisdom, I for one would’ve had many sleepless nights without you dropping your pointless take on a comment that has nothing to do with what you said.
@@nobodycares5981 Perhaps he could’ve made a separate comment was what I was implyingz
@@crueltsunami5593 chill out ma'am
@@queteimporta7262 I’m not sure what part of what I said made it seem like I wasn’t calm. You can hold immense disdain for someone without losing composure, so like I said initially: why reply to me if what you were saying had nothing to do with what I said, especially if you weren’t filled with enough conviction to leave it up and ended up deleting it anyways? In conclusion you’re being a bane of positivity and simultaneously neglecting to stand by any of what you say.
@@crueltsunami5593 bro, what are you talking about, I haven't deleted anything lmao.
i wish they had a key word search for your stach. or a sort mechanic to compare like aspects
3 more days until the giveaway baby!!
Well certainly nowadays SOME games are cash grabs. There are actually game devs though that are interested in making a fun game that matches their vision, and the money is tertiary. Video games can be art.
"If the game made by greedy bastards with shitty monitesation practices is made as a cashgrab, than every game is a cashgrab" - Shroud really took a dive....
You know you don't have to buy cosmetics right?
@@dannypenaredondo36 i think he's just saying that it's really hard to watch a video that starts with a sentence that screams "20 iq made up opinion without any reference at all"
Monetization* It's also 'then' not 'than'
@@dannypenaredondo36 people like you are as smart as a block of cheese... If half of the resources poured into the game are spent on these things than that means they can not be spent on bettering the overall gameplay/story/bugs/music or anything else!
People with this dumbass excuse have no idea of the word "budget"
Late to the party - 25+ hours in, and having a blast.
why is the title "my review" its just stream clips
There is as always such a big difference between the hardcore players and casual players. I play pretty regularly but I only managed to get to lvl 90 with my barb before the season started and it was fun to improve the character every once in a while. Now with season 1 with my 2nd character I feel much more bored, because I already know, when I get to WT3 and WT4 I essentially have to replace my complete gear again.
Btw I am way ahead in my small gamer friend group. 2 didn't even finish the story up to season 1. Whereas other had multiple characters to lvl 100. SO it is clear, that you are bored by then.
I also played PoE and yes, the endgame is WAY better in PoE. Tbh D4 doesn't have an endgame. Uber-Lilith is very cheap and doesn't even drop anything. Huge dissapointment there.
Long story short: D4 is not a bad game for casuals, hardcore player are bored very fast. I very much look forward to PoE2.
Yea good go play poe 2 we casuals don't want to make this that game so stop trying
D4 is new, give it 10 years and it’ll have end game like Poe.
@@justincryptic972 Projectile galore is not fun
@@justincryptic972if season 1 doesnt add any meaningful end game , who is to say season 2 or 3 will add that?
And if they dont do that then the fame is over
Yea a +10 years game has much more content than Diablo 4. Crazy.
He is getting paid by blizzard isn't he.
get a job ty
Lol really
Really it's shroud. 😂😂😂 You really thought that. 😂😂😂
goddamn.. why is it always the problem with someone getting paid ? or get money
@@disc3tsbecause buying an opinion is dishonest.
2:32 "part of the game should be considering what you should keep and what not". That's your opinion. And in my opinion you could not be more wrong. I play the game, want to kill mobs, collect loot. I want to experiment with builds, skills, make new alts, try new things, and of course become more powerful as I go along which is what an RPG is all about (with scaling brought over from WoW I suppose this one is dead in the water, but we digress). The LAST thing I want to do is play inventory tetris. It is a looting game. Not an inventory management simulator. Town stash should be almost limitless. I never should have to concern myself with gear storage and inventory management while I am out there killing mobs. I never should have to make mules to store gear. I should never have to load maxroll, run excel sheets or consult guides for every bit of item I cannot store. I have done enough of this with D2, D3 and D2R. You limit my stash, I do not buy your game.
Cutting to the full screen Webcam view wasn't needed. Just keep the gameplay clip on instead of just 4 seconds of something. Made this really hard to tell what the game is like
Big L take, feels like a blizzard shill now because he clearly thinks gaming is only about money now lolol
Artists create art. Blizzard make cash grabs disguised as art.
its shroud, hes delusional and far from reality, if he ever gonna make a game, its definitely gonna be similar to EA or Blizzard/Activision games, just so he can make money out of his fans
“I believe diablo isn’t a cash grab” lol😂 shroud you a clown for this one
dude gets paid by blizzard he isnt going to poke the bear
He gets paid by dono and sub clowns Activision doesn't give streamers a penny
people are dumb. If he get sponsored, he have to show their sponsor logo on his screen.
@@myheartisyours7479 saying he gets paid is how they cope. Lol someone who gets paid, or sponsored wouldn't spend 500 hours on a video game, that's what people who enjoy the game they're playing do.
@@VTM9126 that’s also what people who get PAID to play a game do especially when it’s a new ip wether they like the game or not 😂 just goes where the money goes
"casual player" and "alt" do not overlap. If you have an alt and are worried about equipment swapping you are not casual you are hardcore
Wrong answer but thanks for trying to sound like you know what you're talking about kid.
He is right, an adult who has a job won't have time to level an alt. If you do then you are already not your average casual player.
@@ERZO no one asked for your input.
@@Lean_Dad Neither did for yours pal.
@@Lean_Dadbros triggered for no reason, stop seething.
It's not a cash grab it's a time sink hours of grinding just to have a patch wipe most of our work.
I am guessing you’ve never played a season in Diablo. Character is still retained even after season.
You don't have to participate in seasons, play your Eternal char if you don't want to reset. They give you that option.
@@drax4901 naw the eternal characters got screwed by the patch vulnerable and armor 2 thing critical to my build... making a new character isn't the issue.
@@drax4901 he's talking about how some nerfs/ mechanic changes can make some characters obsolete.
Buying stash tabs, currency tabs and other convenience feature are cash grabs. Like PoE for example, they say its free but...
Division 1 and 2? Could be a nice looter/shooter for you.
Season 1 came out and I don’t care 😅
This is why you never trust a content creator, even as one as scummy as Shroud. Remember he made hundreds of thousands off of gifted subs for twitch drops.
Hand looks photo shopped in thumbnail
❤❤from India shroud sir🎉
Compares a F2P game to a $70game. This guy a 🤡
I don't get the comment in general. F2P games by design try to get you to fork over more money. They are not doing you a favor or trying to be your friend by letting you play the game at surface level without having to spend money.
You can easily spend 100s in a game like PoE. I bet some have spent thousands over the years.
Diablo Immortal for example?
@@mattb1638 Except once you have 20$ worth of stash tabs, you don't really need more. "F2P games by design try to get you to fork over more money"
PoE is not time-gating you behind shitty energy systems and such like mobile games often do, where you have to spend money to "refresh" it.
The only things you CAN buy are the aforementioned stash tabs, and cosmetics.
You are arguing disingenuously.
@@mattb1638 sure, but all you get are cosmetics, if you were to spend 20$ that's more than enough and you get to play it indefinitely. The devs listen to the community, and they are self aware. Now what about the D4 devs that dodged the simple question of "why is the portal time increased from 3 seconds to 5 seconds"
"Every game is a cash grab" "This game is not a cash grab" Have you heard of a thing called LOGIC?
Are you serious? He literally said the first pharse as a quote from chat, he said "IF you think of this game as a cash grab, every game is a cash grab" Which is not what he thinks. Have you heard of a thing called BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE
Common liberal though process. Taking whatever the video says out of context. He said if this game is a cash grab every game is a cash grab. This game is not a cash grab. Are you feeling like a moron today just like every other day of your stupid life. Lol
@@AndreyGP He also said that every game design decision was made to be profitable and that all a company wants is to make money, that is, that every game is a cash grab, and he wasn`t reading the chat when he said that.
@Shroud you play Diablo IV almost 10 hs per day consecutively since launch? ._.
I would consider a cash grab games that you can’t finish start-end, or if by buying stuff you can finish faster and easier the game.
I think the game launch relatively well imo. I think the game is fun i just think that there needs to be more things for player to do in endgame, but i know theyre adding stuff in the future so im excited
@@shinymaniac2650 I’m waiting for the price to drop somewhere in 2024. There’s no way I’m dropping $70 on a game especially if it still hasn’t reached its fullest potential.
Shroud you’re a millionaire it’s different to us that don’t have much.
Nah man eventually someone like me will have 2 of every class with every set eventually they need more stash space especially when you seasonal character is new every season and the old one stays
I guess I would assume a huge triple A company would make a better game while also making money.
Games that are fun sell well. It's that simple. Diablo 4 has lost sight of that.
What do you mean by that?
In the first 5 days Diablo 4 made over 660 million dollars.. lol
@@MixMeister5000that doesn't say if the game is good or not..blizzard has good marketing and that's it..just look at metacritic..the game has a rating of 2.3 lol..half of the players have already lost after only one month..
@@Freedom-kl8rt Just because you don’t think it’s a good game doesn’t make it not a good game. You have your opinion about the game and other people have a different opinion. I for one think it’s a good game even with some of the flaws it has. It’s definitely not the most complete game. It definitely has its issues that need to be sorted out. Yet it’s most definitely still a good game.
Diablo 4 is fun. I imagine that a majority of the people crying are still playing the game, and are just bitching to be on the hate train, all aboard the Asmongold express!
Poe is f2p, d4 is a $70 alfa
So it is not just me who struggles with hitting the ability and it doesn't go off or it goes off later, but I have resource or it is a cooldown based ability. It is so annoying, it should be fixed because it really grinds my gears.
I think letting people sell/dismantle from stash might be valuable as well, just to remove the tedium of walking back and forth between stash and merchants
I think there should just be a button to let the game play for you. Because who wants tedium, which is basically what any game is comprised of.
Like, if I buy a game centered around fighting mobs and I don't want to fight mobs, I should be able to click a button and get as much XP as I want.
/s
Oh wow I forgot Shroud was even alive. Haven't seen this dude in years!
I was about to say the same for you
Yeah he only pops up every once in a while to prove how irrelevant he is.
@@Overdozeme huh
@@Lord3nderthat’s an oxymoronic statement haha
im that casual player that saves everything and doesnt think i have enough stash space. LOL
The main problem in my opinion, is each class has maybe 2 viable builds at all time. Sure you can make others, but they will not perform end game
Diablo costs fking 70$ and PoE is free
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he seems to have no idea what a cashgrab is
atleast 70 euros for a game + microtransactions to look fancy (which are fcking expensive aswell) + Battlepass + Seasons.... thats a cashgrab and thats not ok and there are no excuses
It's on sle now, at 1/2 off on STEAM, so I'll buy for a one time Playthrough. If I enjoy, maybe play it again as another character type.
Paid creator lol
My dude played 500 hours of D4 and his honest review is that he may or may not like the stash. Be sure to subscribe.
The title says diablo 4 review and then it's just 3 people talking at the same time about a stash tab
Blud just yappin about how he likes how the stash is now.
I lasted till about level 90 in pre season. I played that far with my friends and alone just doing dungeons and everything. I would say playing the campaign is what made the first 80 levels even somewhat tolerable. Its a nice mixture of cutscenes, story, and gameplay with a few side activities sprinkled in. But after that, I didn't really see the point in just killing the same monsters, under annoying rather than fun, dungeons affixes just to start scaling to be able to kill lilith.
And now that I look back on it, I DESPISE "just" mapping in PoE. T1-5 maps are literally the worst because you have no resources. You literally just have to go in raw. No quality on map. No nothing on the map. And what makes that bearable is the fact that it goes by relatively fast and there are tons of FREE AND FUN league mechanics sprinkled in as well. But also the fact that there is still a loose end of a story, and you now have continued missions to play not just grind to grind.
PoE also has more than like, 20 abilities for each class.... And you can play any class with any ability.
In d2r you can use all of your character abilities.
how is this a review video? I'm 6 minutes in and there's still barely any "review" of the game
Clearly, shroud has not heard of Larian Studios. Which focuses on game quality rather than these games that trap you to spend some money
Stash space is fine for 1 character... if u start another one it's gg "I guess I deleted all of my gg gear and aspects" 😌
Even with 4 sets of gear that's only 40-48 slots, less than 1 tab.
Miss when it was about making a good game and selling the game for what it’s worth. Absolutely L take from shroud
Shroud back at it again with the absolute surface level room temperature IQ takes.
Looks like Shroud got paid enough money.
I'd say he enjoys the game, to be putting 500 hours into it. I'm addicted to it too, so I know how he feels. Not everyone is a negative nancy looking for any reason to dislike and shit on the game.
@@VTM9126 I feel sorry for you
@@geraltvonriva9873 I feel sorry that you feel sorry. Because I'm not sorry that I enjoy the game. I feel sorry that you have to nitpick a game because everyone else is doing it.
@@VTM9126 Dudes a dick do what you enjoy bro
@@VTM9126 😂😂😂 keep playing your game with zero content and farm absolute useless items. Have fun 👍
I got to level 40 in Diablo and got bored. Diablo 3 I played it all the way through. Diablo 4 fell short I feel. Fighting the same mobs over and over just doesn't cut it.
Naw I’m the opposite, beat the campaign for d3 once and never played it ever again. This game however is a huge step up in every way pretty much. I’ve already put in double the amount of hours in d4 then d3
Same boat, would be nice to try out different classes but the slog of getting to 50 is too much, relative to say getting to 70 in PoE.
business is not a cash grab. robbery is a cashgrab... business is business...
I would say 40 hours u got ur $ s worth... 500 hours.. u should LOVE this game! Try going outside.... Lol
Disagree massively with your sentiment about Diablo not being a "cash grab". Youre a really smart guy from what ive gathered so idk if youre pretending or whats going on.
- Yes, every game is a "cash grab" but there are massively different levels. When blizzard first started, yes they wanted to make money, but they were passionate about making games and the same people who owned the company were also the devs. They were a small passionate group, in control of everything themselves. Morals mattered, creating their art so to speak mattered.
The biggest difference from then to now is that Blizzard now is a publicly traded company. Their MAIN purpose is to make revenue, it is to make the shareholders happy, no matter what. If they somehow could get away with making an absolute shit game, if that was what maximized their profits, they would.
The chain of command is also massively different. The people who have the final say dont work on the game. Their minds are only on profit. There is a massive disconnect between the different parts of the company.
All this makes it really hard for the devs who actually care to make the game they want. If it turns into a good game thats fine, but its profit first. Making people addicted first. Making people feel fomo first. Its pushing out content before its ready because they need to meet deadlines first. Its pushing out a game thats not ready because they need to meet deadlines first. Its to withhold vital content (like possibly stashtabs) because you can sell it later instead.
The stash space is absolute dogshit. In 30 hours I have filled most of my stash. My 1 level 78 character is hogging all of it. The stash space would be fine for 1 character, it is not fine if you want to make several.
why do you need more than 4 tabs of stash space
You only use that much because you don't know what's worth keeping yet. If you start a second character, you hardly collect anything.
Knowledge becomes the best filter. This is the same process with a majority of mmo inventory issues.
@@TwistedwithPower Youre absolutey wrong, I got 500h in this game, ive gotten top 100 in Diablo 2 ladders, I got thousands of hours in poe, I know what to keep trust me. I want to keep a lot of things.
@@lsdxhostile8245 This is what I would like for ONE character:
Full stash tab for gear for different builds.
Full stash tab för Aspect for different builds.
Full stash tab for Malignant Hearts.
Full stash tab for Sigils
So I would need atleast 4 stash tabs per character I have.
Then I need:
Full stash tab for items im selling
Full stash tab for elixirs
Full stash tab for gems.
So if I want to make 1 character of each class thats 23 stash tabs right there. I dont even think this is remotely out of reason to expect, I have like 100 stash tabs in POE. Last Epoch just gives you 150 stash tabs from the start.
@Looch1717
Yeah, that type of flex isn't gonna work with me.
Simple reality is...
Tab 1 : 6ish stacked slots for x Royal Gems, Save only 6-12 (High Roll) Caged Hearts for final 725+ IP Gear plus the high roll uniques in relation to that class.
Tab 2: Build One Gear (Example: Sorc Blizzard/Shard) So gear pieces and high roll aspects ready for the final 725+ IP Build.
Tab 3 Build Two Gear (DoT Fire)
Tab 4: Build Three (Lightning)
Ez.
click bait title
I always wanted to play this game , its too expensive for me to buy :
literally lmao...its only a real cash grab when things get over board. they give you so much free things to get inside the game compared to way more games.
the stash space argument does not make much sense, it is a looter. there will be tons of loot, comparing it to tarkov is kinda dumb. while i agree that infinite stash space is not the right way, the ammount we have is too little for a looter.
how do you unlock mor stash ? is there a way to do that ?
@@josevergara82 you can buy up to 4 stash tabs with gold in game at the moment (obviously not enough) hence my rant in this section and why I just stopped the video at 3:14 because if you're defending that decision, your other points can't be too well thought out.
Soon as he said " its not a cash grab" I paused his shilling for the big guy video and went into the comments. Yea everyone else is also calling out your b. S.
So you contradicted yourself
>Every game is a cash grab
>I don’t think this game is a cash grab
Because it’s not lol. There’s nothing P2W at all. Only thing there is to spend money on is the game, the season pass, and cosmetics. It’s definitely not a cash grab game at all. You can go the whole game without even looking at the store. They don’t throw it into your face every chance they get like some games of the same genre do. But yes he’s technically right though. Every game will always try ways to draw you in and spend money. With Diablo 4 they don’t really do that. Like yeah they want you to spend money on the game they just don’t throw the store in your face.
@@ramby4436i haven’t played diablo4 so I don’t know but I believe you. It always surprises me how little people remember about gaming history. There used to be a time where pay 2 win was the default monetization option. Hell in some ways that is still the default option in the mobile gaming space.
Now we have games like Valorant that are completely free, doesn’t require a single penny spent to compete at the highest level and yet everyone is constantly whining about Riot being greedy for making their cosmetics expensive. They don’t even care that you can get skins in the season pass for relatively cheap, they are just mad that they can’t get the cool skins for free.
I really wish the general public would praise the games that do monetization right. I doubt many execs will choose a cosmetics only monetization in the future if they know the community will complain about being greedy no matter what they do.
Short of just releasing a game for free there doesn’t seem to be a good way to appease these people. Oddly, it seems like something as bad as CSGO’s gambling system is perceived as better somehow. Its great that you can sell skins but gambling is really not a healthy monetization.
@@ramby4436 Wow, someone who thinks before they talk. I like you!
@@ramby4436 " Like yeah they want you to spend money on the game they just don’t throw the store in your face." Yeah, tell that to the shitton of people that accidentally bought the battlepass because their cursor locked onto the buy icon and there was no asking for confirmation if your card info was given.
@@practic4l349 My guy that’s a bug it clearly wasn’t intended on doing that. They still don’t throw the store into people’s faces. People literally have to physically go to the store/season pass. Like I said you can go the whole game without ever looking at them. Unless you actually want to see what’s in it or you want to buy things. Saying a bug is throwing the store into your face. Then personally you’re completely wrong.