I have a basket simular to yours and I got the same results. Out of control temps but still had a long cook time. I get about 4 hours on mines. Good video.👍
Try this and you will have much better temp control... 1) remove ALL the baffles 2) get a large coffee can with the top & bottom cut out 3) place coffee can in center of charcoal basket 4) fill all around outside of coffee can with unlit charcoal 5) place four or five wood chunks on top of unlit charcoal against the outside of coffee can 6) take the same amount of lit charcoal you used in this video and dump it in the coffee can 6) remove coffee can with large pliers... this method has NEVER failed me! Also, once your cook chamber reaches about 200 degrees, start to throttle back the air intake as needed to "creep up" on your target temp.
Man I love the BBQ world... smh. Comments like yours is why I decided to start a channel and doing social media. I appreciate you 🙏🏿💯 Another one of my subscribers said the same thing basically minus the coffee can and it makes so much sense! I'm going to give it a try... and I'll make sure I get on cam. Thx again!! Happy 4th ✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
It works even better when you close the damper on the stack. Get it to about just 1/2” open. Using the above and closing the stack will give you about 6 hours at 225-235. Key is to close the stack, too. Most forget that. Great channel. AZ heat sucks. Go Cowboys.
Great video Joe. You are spot on with the charcoal basket! I have used mine maybe 5-6 times. Every time the whole basket lights up like the sun. The baffles get hot, and ignite the charcoal touching the other side. It will not “snake” as designed (but you already know that!). I’ve found that if I clip both baffle plates on the same side… then pull the far edges together till they touch… you can get a “V” shaped “U” path that the charcoal will snake and burn as desired. I gain about 3-4 more hours burn time, with a lower burn temp by doing it this way. Like you… it’s hard not to get excited talking about my LSG. I’m four years in with mine… and I still get a little “giddy” every time I fire it up! Ya got a great channel here, Joe… Cheers! 🍻🍻🍻 Oh... new sub here!!!
Grumpus!! First off let me say, Thanks for subscribing and checking me out. I appreciate your support. Early on as I wa s making up my mind to get the LSG I watched like all of your videos to make up my mind, and to get ready to unbox it and cure it. So it's cool to have you here checking out mine now. As far as the basket your 1000% right someone suggested the V design I just have to rap my head around exactly how to do it. The other suggestion I got from one of the other LSG owners was to get rid of the baffles all together and start with a small amount of lit coals dead in the center in a empty coffee can w the bottom cut out and put your unlit coals/wood around it and remove the can and let it basically go from there. (Minion method) supposedly it burns slow and it's good for low temps (225-300) and it makes sense so I plan on giving that a try as well.
Thanks again for subbing and be sure to keep up with my weekly cooks and check out some of the others you've missed and givee your feedback. I'm still growing, catch you this weekend!✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
@@KillerMillerQue Now how cool is that! Thank you for watching! It’s nice to know someone found my videos contained useful information. I stumbled on your channel by accident tonight… and I’m glad I did. Ya got good stuff here. I have tried the coffee can (minion) method, and it sort of works, although you still end up with the whole basket lit. With the “V” method, instead of slotting the baffles on opposite sides, you slot them on the same side. You’ll end up with a triangle ‘hole’ in the middle of the basket with no charcoal, but that empty space is what makes it work. Also… when your viewers leave comments, be sure they know the “Charcoal Basket” and the “Fire Management Basket” are two totally different items. The LSG Fire Management Basket is a game changer, and a must have, in my opinion. I’ll be binge watching your videos this weekend, Joe. 👍
@@GrumpusOnFire Thx Grumpus, that all makes sense and I agree that fire management basket is a MUST have. Another thing I remember from your videos that I need to try is your temperature probe modification for inside the pit. I'll go back and get the exact size of that screw and bolt. I'm prepping for my weekend cool as we speak. Talk soon👍🏿
Hmmm... so interesting how the heat seemed to conduct throughout and ramp up so much. Very good experiment, and at least you got a ton of good cooking time out of it! Thanks for this Joe!
Happy 4th!!🇺🇸 I'm glad you checked it out and despite the upside and downs the pork was remarkable and we make it work!! But based off some of the comments I've got from others that have dealt w the same issue. It sounds like the minion method with no baffles is the way to go... so I guess they'll be a part 2 coming soon. Stay tuned 😉✌🏿💯💯
Hey Joe!! I also sat on this basket for almost a year. Finally used it a few weeks ago…..but I added the FireBoard controller and fan. Choked off the firebox completely. Set temp to 225. It worked much like a pellet. Watched the smoke go more dirty than I would run it, but the smoke profile on day one was harsh. After it sat over night in the fridge, it mellowed out and had amazing smoke!! It’s all preference on smoke. But I like a bold smoke flavor ( but not harsh bitter smoke) 🤣.
What up boss!👊🏿 I'm due to go back and try again with this one. I've got a bunch of different tips and I know I can get that thang dialed in.... soon!!✌🏿🍻💯💯
Bro You never cease to amaze me. This video is a tremendous help to those considering LSG & the Charcoal management basket!!! Thanks for being honest with Your assessment (holding Lone Star Grillz accountable (all though they are great as a company). At the same time it’s giving knowledge to how to do bbq “Smoke Style”!!! 🙌🏾 #LetTheSmokeRoll 💨💨💨
Thx Royce!! I appreciate you, we got it done but not as smooth as I would have expected 🤷🏿♂️ Oh well what we gonna do... barbecue or mildew? I think you already know the answer to that one!! Lol✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
@@KillerMillerQue so just curious. Would you recommend against LSG? Even their upper level stuff like the Texan or the 24x48 offset? I’m looking at several premium brands to buy (workhorse, fatstack, Even outlaw though it’s crazy priced) if not LSG, what offset would you recommend. Keep in mind I want the flavor and don’t mind managing fire but come from years with a kamado joe which after settling vents, drives itself… lol
@@KillerMillerQue so just curious. Would you recommend against LSG? Even their upper level stuff like the Texan or the 24x48 offset? I’m looking at several premium brands to buy (workhorse, fatstack, Even outlaw though it’s crazy priced) if not LSG, what offset would you recommend. Keep in mind I want the flavor and don’t mind managing fire but come from years with a kamado joe which after settling vents, drives itself… lol
Pickled onions home made if you haven’t already done that video please do!!!! I just got into BBQ with a free kingsford bullet smoker. It was being thrown out and it looks like it was used once. Any tips for a smoker like that.
ua-cam.com/video/hIoBuHj-3B0/v-deo.html There you go bro.. welcome to your new addiction!! Lol. I've never cooked on that style smoker but once you learn the basic functionality everything I'd always the same. Nice come up tho!!💯
Watched the whole thing! Dedication on that long cook my man! I've been there too, long nights tending to the fire making sure nothing messes up. Especially with unfamiliar territory. Good job and glad you stuck it out 100%
Thanks Big Lou💯.. Happy 4th to you and the fam. As you already know I appreciate you watching it all through way through I didn't want to make it so long but I didn't want to take out any more of the content. At the end of the day we gotterdun and the pork came out 🔥.. another one down boss! ✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
That's all I want.. I love LSG as a company and I've quickly found the community to be THE best. So hopefully it helps. 💯 Thanks for checking it out and giving some feedback. Happy 4th! ✌🏿💯💯
Now I know you meant Killer Miller, cause I ain't got Killer Mike bread🤣🤣 I appreciate you coming thru I let that one there get nice and barked up.. it came out great. To The weekend my G!🍻
Absolutely correct! I had the same issue with the fire management basket. The divider plates get so hot, they light the charcoal on the other side. The lone star grills are amazing, the baskets are bust..
Yea it was a bit of a bummer. I'm bt due to try it again, and I think I'll take all the dividers out and just try the minion method, I've heard that works.
I used that basket a few times myself...yes it cooks hot n fast i had to choke it down fast right at first. For me, i only use it just for chicken so i can get that crispy skin....but you did great...as usual..
What up bro!👊🏿 I ma s e it work but it definitely had some challenges for sire.. I need to give it another whirl with some of the suggestions I got from others w the basket.. soon hopefully 🍻🍻
Nice lookin bark! I used the basket 3 times, b4 i too figured out its hot n fast. My only advice is its perfect for chicken, because u can get that skin crispy, but long cooks, not so good. Yes my baffel plates warped out also, but Chris will send you two new ones if you ask. But u da! Man!! Happy 4th
Chris... Happy 4th to you and the fam!👊🏿💯💯 So it's not just me? I've been thinking back over my cook all morning trying to think if it was something I needed to do differently to get it right. But I'm hearing from more LSG owners that they've had the same issues. I made it work though, and the pork came out great! Maybe I'll try it a couple more times and if/when my plates get too bad I'll hit Chris up. Maybe they'll redesign it and call it "The Miller" 🤔😂😂🤣🤣 Peace bro!✌🏿💯
@@KillerMillerQue Right..lol. i use my old plates , by putting them on my upper shelf in the fire box to prevent my fire from constantly burning up the bottom of my warming oven..in your set up it would be your hot plate...so they still are good for something...peace my brother!!
I had the same problem when trying to run charcoal in a different brand of off-set smoker that all the charcoal had to much air and it all light up real fast . This is why I bought a LSG Mini Cabinet smoker and will run two days on a half a bag of charcoal and want to buy a Workhorse off-set so I have the best of both worlds when I want to get some sleep . Great job on the cook and review and you made me hungry eating that pork sandwich .
What up Jeff! Happy 4th to you and the fam.. that's crazy that your Mini Cabinet Smoker is that efficient on charcoal. Truthfully if I'm doing an overnight cook it wouldn't be that hard to cook w splits.. I only add one every 45 min or so and it's dam near still 90 degrees outside so it carries well. But since I bought it I wanted to try it just to see. I did get 6 hours of cook time just way too hot. Btw those workhorse pits look legit too. Thanks for coming through!✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
Wat up Doug!! Thx for checking it out, I had fun doing it and now I finally used my basket. A couple other people asked about those pickled onions so you can expect a short video of how to make those coming this week. There super easy to do, but they do pack some flavor!! Until then... Happy 4th boss!✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
Nice Review I have watched similar lsg baskets, not impressed most plates have hollow space. I would try getting 2" wide fire brick and there wide enough you can stack them. Pork butt came out nice. You have a great back yard. Happy 4th.
Thx John and Happy 4th boss!! I'm actually shocked that the metal on that basket is so thin. It's almost like an oxymoron to put thin and Lone Star in the same sentence but unfortunately this basket needs a upgrade to meet the high standards they've set by crafting all these great pits. I think I'm going to reach out to them and see what they say.. maybe I did something wrong 🤷🏿♂️
Thx Kirby, I appreciate your support and feedback 4real 4real. If I done made it into your Sunday lineup I'm officially getting somewhere now! 😁 Happy 4th to you and the fam! ✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
Next time using that id use regular Kingsford in first half of basket then on bottom second half I'd use some lump on bottom then cover up rest with regular Kingsford should give u longer burn time .
Hey Joe great vid! Love your content and you make me laugh (drill a hole in the bone and wear it around my neck lol) Would love a pickled onion vid, always trying to good additions to my brisket/pulled pork sammies!
What's up Paul.. thanks for following along. I'll be honest I'm silly at heart and after little sleep I was all wacked lol. But I be having fun🤷🏿♂️ which is why I do it. I'll get that pickled onion video up this week. It's super easy to do and they do add a nice bit of pop to your bbq Sammies!💯 Stay Tuned... ✌🏿👊🏿💯💯 P.S. I still got that bone downstairs!! 😂😅🤣🤣
What's up boss👊🏿 Yea it's a huge basket I could definitely get a smaller split(s) in there with no problem. I got a couple good tips that I'm gonna try here soon w that basket. Thx for checking me out, be sure to see some of the other cooks on the channel!✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
Oh yeah you did that my dude. Looks GOOD. One thing though, It would have turned out a whole lot better if you wasn't wearing that cowgirls hat....... lol GOOD JOB BRUH....
It's officially football season... Shots Fired!!! Lol Appreciate u checking it out and coming thru.. be sure you check out the latest video I just uploaded yesterday... Cowboy Ribeye ;-)✌🏿👊🏿💯
In my LONESTAR IVS there's double wall dividers in the firebox that worked great. Maybe they can do something like that for the offset. Good luck and great video.
What's up Robert.. yea a double walled divider would probably do the trick.. a couple other LSG owners said they just run it without the baffles in it and it works better, Oh well. That's bt the only thing I can complain about with it, so all in all it's nothing. Thanks for coming thru✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
Thanks bro, I thought it would be an interesting one for the people, I couldnt find one review on it so I figured I'd take one for the team, lol. I guess now we all know! Happy 4th!!✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
Good morning Joe...Steve from California...i too have the charcoal basket n the divider plates blistered...but question...how does your meat stick work in the LSG...i have the 30 in vertical and with the thickness of the smoke chamber walls...do u get a good signal to your phone ???
What up Steve!👊🏿 You know unfortunately my meatstick quit working ok me, but most of the time once I got it synced up I got decent reception when I was outside but a bit hit or miss when I went in the house.
Joe you had that pork barking like Arsenio...Great cook and highly informative. And the review on that basket was legit. Do the onion video👊🏼💯 #blacksmokebarbecue
My dude.. Happy 4th to you and the fam man👊🏿💯💯 I was doing that overnight cook watching your burrito video and that breakfast sandwich I literally had to door dash me some food! 😆 🤣 You helped get yo boy through it!! Copy that, I'll get the onion video up by mid week.✌🏿💯💯
Love the video, you did a good job with smoking the pork butt. The next time your fire gets low, put that cap in your fire management basket. Your pit will get back up to temp within seconds.
Lmao, you know for a minute I was thinking what cap he talking bt🤔🤔🤔 then it hit me I forgot who I was talking to! You keep talking season getting close.. and yo boyz got question marks too. Believe me I don't miss a game💯 This ain't over.. Good looking on checking it out as always💯
The fire jumping across the divider plates has been a know issue. The plates need an air space maybe 3/8" would do the trick. I've used mine a lot and the basket has held up great once the original mill scale burnt off.
@@wcneathery3100 so it wasn't user error then.. I was thinking back on my cook all morning trying to think if there was something I could or should have done differently.
Great video. I'll be getting a LSG soon.and was wondering about this basket. Haven't seen any videos on it. Love your videos and going to be binge the rest of your videos today and looking forward to.new ones. But we need to get your a 9ers hat. 😂😂😂
What up Jerry!! I'm glad you found some value in it.. I couldn't find any videos on it either and after doing my 8 month review on my LSG it hit me that I still hadn't tried it, so that's how we got here. I'm glad I did. I got some good videos that you've missed so I'll definitely keep you busy for a day. Be sure and like and comment and let me know what you think and other things you want to see. I'm young in the game so we're still getting better. Happy 4th bro! ✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
Try using smaller and fewer chunks or just use wood chips and just a little less charcoal you'll get longer burn and less heat, that beast smoker don't need much to retain the heat 👍
you should try putting the wood chunks in the middle instead of the bottom start out with even less red hot coals, also try smaller wood chunks, once they catch, your temps are gonna spike. you might also have to choke down the exhaust just a little bit.
Cheese Guy!! Thx for coming thru.. those are all some solid suggestions and consistent with what I heard from some other LSG owners.. sounds like that minion method is the way. I haven't done a 2nd cook on the basket yet, but I'm interested to see how it goes. When I do.. you'll see it up here! Happy Holidays 🍻
Man great video. I'm gobbling up all the content and info I can because I'm shuffling 3 brands in my head. LSG, Shirley and now TMG. Not sure if someone already commented with this observation but I think you turning the vents towards the air intake may have contributed to the high temps. LSG probably designed the basket that way to intentionally limit the air flow for a long slow cook. Great thing is you can always do more experimenting which results in eating more delicious bbq! 😋
Mr E... Thanks for checking it out.. Hopefully you subscribed so you can keep up with the weekly cooks and definitely go back and see some of the ones you missed. With that said sounds like you got a good dilemma on your hands. How big you want to go? Something like mine or bigger/smaller? Also when you gonna pull the trigger? Looking at new pits is like looking at big screen tvs for me.... lol. Man you know I've got a lot of great feedback and ideas back after I posted this video. But this is the first time anyone said anything about the vents... that's interesting 🤔 initially that's the way I thought the basket would go because of the handle but then I saw the air holes and thought they should be angled towards the vents. I just may have to try that one just to see.. good one!👍🏿 New videos post every Sun am.. make sure you tune in this week, it will be a good one. ✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
@@KillerMillerQue Yessir I'm a new sub. I'm really eyeing that LSG large IVS. Mainly cuz Im eventually going to get into some catering and like you I could always use more sleep. If I do go the offset route it'll be the cabinet model from LSG or more likely the others that can have warmers installed. Probably place an order before the year is out. Those Shirleys and TMGs have close to year lead time but I'm in no rush. I'm in Houston so if I do lose patience LSG is right here.
@@eonreco1472 Cool glad your aboard.. Yea sounds like one way or another you'll be good just take your time and be sure you get what you want. That way you'll have no regrets. 💯 They are all good pits.. but I don't know if either one is built as sturdy as them LSGs.. the metal is just thicker that they use. But I do like the way the TMG's look. But I'm always looking at the offsets.
My weber 26’er with the SNS will do 10 1/2 hours with wood chunks, staggered toward the beginning of the cook. Just a guess I would use about half of the charcoal that you used. With pretty much the same results. Using a $429 grill!!! That’s one of the reasons I haven’t bought a $6000-$8000 offset. I mean the offset has the cool factor don’t get me wrong! But that charcoal basket to me was a total failure!
What up Steven! You already know you can do a lil bit of everything with the ole Weber I actually just put a new video up cooking on mine today. (Be sure to check it out😉) Bt yea that charcoal management basket didn't hit like I wanted luckily once I looked back at it it wasn't that expensive (compared to the price of the grill..smh) but minus that.. it was worth it. It's wayyyyyy more than you need for a grill or to pay for a grill, but it's a nice toy, and the product that comes off of it be on point!💯 just don't get that basket🤣🤣
Thanks for the awesome video Joe! I have the charcoal insert that goes inside the cooker for my 20x36 offset. I was thinking how might a charcoal snake would work on the insert inside the cooker or even running my SNS on the charcoal insert inside the cooker. I know I can control the temps better with the SNS although I have yet to experiment with these ideas but some options to consider. I have put a chimney of charcoal on the insert inside my LSG and it got up to 325 on the Tel Tru which means my upper grate was probably around 375. I did that just to find out what the temps might be. Good luck and I will advise if I try one of these other options.....thx again!
Thanks for checking it out, definitely let me know what youbget from your experiments.. since I posted that video I've heard from a few others that have the LSG and the basket and it sounds like taking the baffles out all together and basically doing the minion method inside of the basket works well and holds low steady temps.. I haven't tried it yet but it makes sense. So you can expect I'll be doing that to test sometime soon. Catch you this weekend at the pit!✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
Hey Joe, Alan Heffernan put a thread together in March/2020 on the FB channel of LSG owners which he did some charcoal trial with his 20x42 and a blower. Look it up and read all the comments/questions, it's pretty informative.
How is the taste of the meat ? Because you started with charcoal and do not get a good smoke taste because the meat is sealed once you start cooking with the wood ?
What's up Richie, thanks for reminding me, I have a discount code for the meatstick that I need to pin in the comments... But so far I've used the MeatStick in about 5 cooks/videos and overall it's worked well and I like it. I'm almost ready to do a review on it, but I wanted to use it for awhile to give a good honest review. Most of the time it stays connected well though I have had a few hiccups where I get kicked off during a cook which is the worst!! Be sure to subscribe if you haven't and I'll have that review up soon. Stay Tuned..👊🏿💯💯
What if you tried this in the firebox instead of the charcoal basket: 1. Using fire retardant bricks (I've seen them 4-1/2 in. x 9 in. x 1-1/4 in), set the bricks on their sides and make the same shape with them in the firebox that you have in the charcoal basket. 2. Add your charcoal and wood chunks in the firebox. 3. Light one end of the charcoal. This should give you a little more space for charcoal since the charcoal basket is a little smaller than the firebox itself and with 1-1/4 in space in between the charcoal rows that would hopefully keep the fire from jumping over and lighting the next row of charcoal and basically let you use the "snake method" in the firebox, which is what the charcoal basket is attempting to do.
Job well done on that butt, looks delicious 😋... I used my charcoal basket yesterday for a rib cook (3 racks). I don't use the divider plates just fill basket with lump charcoal and wood chunks, hollow out the center for my lit coals. After I pulled off the ribs 4 1/2 hours I let her continue to burn for 9 hours maintaining 225 to 250 when I decided to open up the intake so she would quickly burn out. In my opinion the basket works well without the divider plates. My ribs had great flavor were tender, moist and delicious.
Happy 4th boss and as always it's good to hear from you... now onto what you said.... 🤔 Thats interesting so if I understand you correctly get rid of the plates and do the wood chunks and charcoal along the outside of the basket leaving a hole for the lit charcoal and let it go from there? Is that right?
@@KillerMillerQue Apparently 1/2 a Weber charcoal starter. I put a large metal coffee can with the bottom cut out in the middle of the charcoal basket and fill around it with lump charcoal and some evenly dispersed wood chunks. I pour the lit coals into the coffee can then with my welder glove I pull out the can and the lit coals remain behind. The fire burns outward. I can maintain 250ish for 9 plus hours easily. Also I remove one of the bottom expanded metal grates so the burnt ash falls through easier.
I feel you J... I'm in here in this sauna right now trying to give some of that hog back as we speak! Lmao.. it's not part of my daily diet but I do find myself dipping in the sauce more than I should 🤷🏿♂️ Stay tuned for this Sunday... I think I got something right down your alley.. I'm still dialing it in, but it should be a good cook 👊🏿💯💯
Yea the basket was a bit suspect.. truthfully that was one accessory I really didn't need. I already have a pellet grill if I want to smoke overnight with no effort and I only have to add wood every 45 min to an hour so I could nap and still feed my fire w no issues
It wasn't that, it was closed up I just didn't record it. I had it closed down to barley open.. normally with Wood that would give me about 225.. but once it was lit, it went up and stayed up!! I could have tried starting w less lit charcoal and see if that helps. Stay on the lookout for a pt 2 soon!!👊🏿🍻💯💯
I have a basket simular to yours and I got the same results. Out of control temps but still had a long cook time. I get about 4 hours on mines. Good video.👍
Yep... stay tuned I just redid this experiment and I had some interesting results.!💯💯
Try this and you will have much better temp control... 1) remove ALL the baffles 2) get a large coffee can with the top & bottom cut out 3) place coffee can in center of charcoal basket 4) fill all around outside of coffee can with unlit charcoal 5) place four or five wood chunks on top of unlit charcoal against the outside of coffee can 6) take the same amount of lit charcoal you used in this video and dump it in the coffee can 6) remove coffee can with large pliers... this method has NEVER failed me! Also, once your cook chamber reaches about 200 degrees, start to throttle back the air intake as needed to "creep up" on your target temp.
Man I love the BBQ world... smh. Comments like yours is why I decided to start a channel and doing social media. I appreciate you 🙏🏿💯 Another one of my subscribers said the same thing basically minus the coffee can and it makes so much sense! I'm going to give it a try... and I'll make sure I get on cam. Thx again!! Happy 4th ✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
I'm with Joe! This was fantastic info! Great method!
It works even better when you close the damper on the stack. Get it to about just 1/2” open. Using the above and closing the stack will give you about 6 hours at 225-235. Key is to close the stack, too. Most forget that. Great channel. AZ heat sucks. Go Cowboys.
Great video Joe. You are spot on with the charcoal basket! I have used mine maybe 5-6 times. Every time the whole basket lights up like the sun. The baffles get hot, and ignite the charcoal touching the other side. It will not “snake” as designed (but you already know that!). I’ve found that if I clip both baffle plates on the same side… then pull the far edges together till they touch… you can get a “V” shaped “U” path that the charcoal will snake and burn as desired. I gain about 3-4 more hours burn time, with a lower burn temp by doing it this way. Like you… it’s hard not to get excited talking about my LSG. I’m four years in with mine… and I still get a little “giddy” every time I fire it up! Ya got a great channel here, Joe… Cheers! 🍻🍻🍻 Oh... new sub here!!!
Grumpus!! First off let me say, Thanks for subscribing and checking me out. I appreciate your support. Early on as I wa s making up my mind to get the LSG I watched like all of your videos to make up my mind, and to get ready to unbox it and cure it. So it's cool to have you here checking out mine now. As far as the basket your 1000% right someone suggested the V design I just have to rap my head around exactly how to do it. The other suggestion I got from one of the other LSG owners was to get rid of the baffles all together and start with a small amount of lit coals dead in the center in a empty coffee can w the bottom cut out and put your unlit coals/wood around it and remove the can and let it basically go from there. (Minion method) supposedly it burns slow and it's good for low temps (225-300) and it makes sense so I plan on giving that a try as well.
Thanks again for subbing and be sure to keep up with my weekly cooks and check out some of the others you've missed and givee your feedback. I'm still growing, catch you this weekend!✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
@@KillerMillerQue Now how cool is that! Thank you for watching! It’s nice to know someone found my videos contained useful information. I stumbled on your channel by accident tonight… and I’m glad I did. Ya got good stuff here. I have tried the coffee can (minion) method, and it sort of works, although you still end up with the whole basket lit. With the “V” method, instead of slotting the baffles on opposite sides, you slot them on the same side. You’ll end up with a triangle ‘hole’ in the middle of the basket with no charcoal, but that empty space is what makes it work. Also… when your viewers leave comments, be sure they know the “Charcoal Basket” and the “Fire Management Basket” are two totally different items. The LSG Fire Management Basket is a game changer, and a must have, in my opinion. I’ll be binge watching your videos this weekend, Joe. 👍
@@GrumpusOnFire Thx Grumpus, that all makes sense and I agree that fire management basket is a MUST have. Another thing I remember from your videos that I need to try is your temperature probe modification for inside the pit. I'll go back and get the exact size of that screw and bolt. I'm prepping for my weekend cool as we speak. Talk soon👍🏿
Hmmm... so interesting how the heat seemed to conduct throughout and ramp up so much. Very good experiment, and at least you got a ton of good cooking time out of it! Thanks for this Joe!
Happy 4th!!🇺🇸 I'm glad you checked it out and despite the upside and downs the pork was remarkable and we make it work!! But based off some of the comments I've got from others that have dealt w the same issue. It sounds like the minion method with no baffles is the way to go... so I guess they'll be a part 2 coming soon. Stay tuned 😉✌🏿💯💯
Hey Joe!! I also sat on this basket for almost a year. Finally used it a few weeks ago…..but I added the FireBoard controller and fan. Choked off the firebox completely. Set temp to 225. It worked much like a pellet. Watched the smoke go more dirty than I would run it, but the smoke profile on day one was harsh. After it sat over night in the fridge, it mellowed out and had amazing smoke!! It’s all preference on smoke. But I like a bold smoke flavor ( but not harsh bitter smoke) 🤣.
What up boss!👊🏿 I'm due to go back and try again with this one. I've got a bunch of different tips and I know I can get that thang dialed in.... soon!!✌🏿🍻💯💯
Bro You never cease to amaze me. This video is a tremendous help to those considering LSG & the Charcoal management basket!!! Thanks for being honest with Your assessment (holding Lone Star Grillz accountable (all though they are great as a company). At the same time it’s giving knowledge to how to do bbq “Smoke Style”!!! 🙌🏾
#LetTheSmokeRoll 💨💨💨
Thx Royce!! I appreciate you, we got it done but not as smooth as I would have expected 🤷🏿♂️ Oh well what we gonna do... barbecue or mildew? I think you already know the answer to that one!! Lol✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
@@KillerMillerQue so just curious. Would you recommend against LSG? Even their upper level stuff like the Texan or the 24x48 offset? I’m looking at several premium brands to buy (workhorse, fatstack, Even outlaw though it’s crazy priced) if not LSG, what offset would you recommend. Keep in mind I want the flavor and don’t mind managing fire but come from years with a kamado joe which after settling vents, drives itself… lol
@@KillerMillerQue so just curious. Would you recommend against LSG? Even their upper level stuff like the Texan or the 24x48 offset? I’m looking at several premium brands to buy (workhorse, fatstack, Even outlaw though it’s crazy priced) if not LSG, what offset would you recommend. Keep in mind I want the flavor and don’t mind managing fire but come from years with a kamado joe which after settling vents, drives itself… lol
Pickled onions home made if you haven’t already done that video please do!!!! I just got into BBQ with a free kingsford bullet smoker. It was being thrown out and it looks like it was used once. Any tips for a smoker like that.
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There you go bro.. welcome to your new addiction!! Lol. I've never cooked on that style smoker but once you learn the basic functionality everything I'd always the same. Nice come up tho!!💯
Watched the whole thing! Dedication on that long cook my man! I've been there too, long nights tending to the fire making sure nothing messes up. Especially with unfamiliar territory. Good job and glad you stuck it out 100%
Thanks Big Lou💯.. Happy 4th to you and the fam. As you already know I appreciate you watching it all through way through I didn't want to make it so long but I didn't want to take out any more of the content. At the end of the day we gotterdun and the pork came out 🔥.. another one down boss! ✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
@@KillerMillerQue It was definitely a great video! Very very informative 100%. Let's get to 1k subs my man!
@@ElSenorBbq getting closer!!🐢🐢
Thanks for your honesty- will help others and LSG 😊👍👍
That's all I want.. I love LSG as a company and I've quickly found the community to be THE best. So hopefully it helps. 💯 Thanks for checking it out and giving some feedback. Happy 4th! ✌🏿💯💯
@@KillerMillerQue Happy 4Th!!
Killer Mike I loved that cook....Now that Bark was barking brother...Kepp smoking
Now I know you meant Killer Miller, cause I ain't got Killer Mike bread🤣🤣 I appreciate you coming thru I let that one there get nice and barked up.. it came out great. To The weekend my G!🍻
Absolutely correct! I had the same issue with the fire management basket. The divider plates get so hot, they light the charcoal on the other side. The lone star grills are amazing, the baskets are bust..
Yea it was a bit of a bummer. I'm bt due to try it again, and I think I'll take all the dividers out and just try the minion method, I've heard that works.
I finally had to resort to placing a brick against the divider walls and then add the charcoal. It worked on my LSG offset.
@@jimelmore9728 hmmmmm🤔🤔 smart move
I used that basket a few times myself...yes it cooks hot n fast i had to choke it down fast right at first. For me, i only use it just for chicken so i can get that crispy skin....but you did great...as usual..
What up bro!👊🏿 I ma s e it work but it definitely had some challenges for sire.. I need to give it another whirl with some of the suggestions I got from others w the basket.. soon hopefully 🍻🍻
Nice lookin bark!
I used the basket 3 times, b4 i too figured out its hot n fast. My only advice is its perfect for chicken, because u can get that skin crispy, but long cooks, not so good. Yes my baffel plates warped out also, but Chris will send you two new ones if you ask. But u da! Man!! Happy 4th
Chris... Happy 4th to you and the fam!👊🏿💯💯 So it's not just me? I've been thinking back over my cook all morning trying to think if it was something I needed to do differently to get it right. But I'm hearing from more LSG owners that they've had the same issues. I made it work though, and the pork came out great! Maybe I'll try it a couple more times and if/when my plates get too bad I'll hit Chris up. Maybe they'll redesign it and call it "The Miller" 🤔😂😂🤣🤣 Peace bro!✌🏿💯
@@KillerMillerQue
Right..lol. i use my old plates , by putting them on my upper shelf in the fire box to prevent my fire from constantly burning up the bottom of my warming oven..in your set up it would be your hot plate...so they still are good for something...peace my brother!!
@@lt4rocious400 smart move.. ✌🏿💯💯
I had the same problem when trying to run charcoal in a different brand of off-set smoker that all the charcoal had to much air and it all light up real fast . This is why I bought a LSG Mini Cabinet smoker and will run two days on a half a bag of charcoal and want to buy a Workhorse off-set so I have the best of both worlds when I want to get some sleep . Great job on the cook and review and you made me hungry eating that pork sandwich .
What up Jeff! Happy 4th to you and the fam.. that's crazy that your Mini Cabinet Smoker is that efficient on charcoal. Truthfully if I'm doing an overnight cook it wouldn't be that hard to cook w splits.. I only add one every 45 min or so and it's dam near still 90 degrees outside so it carries well. But since I bought it I wanted to try it just to see. I did get 6 hours of cook time just way too hot. Btw those workhorse pits look legit too. Thanks for coming through!✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
BTW I just had another couple of them pork sandwiches... I'm no good lol
This video is great man! Looks perfect! That bark is unreal! Yeah I definitely would like you to do a video on pickled onions!
Wat up Doug!! Thx for checking it out, I had fun doing it and now I finally used my basket. A couple other people asked about those pickled onions so you can expect a short video of how to make those coming this week. There super easy to do, but they do pack some flavor!! Until then... Happy 4th boss!✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
@@KillerMillerQue great! Looking forward to it! Happy fourth to you as well my man! 👍🏻
That bark is bonkers! Great video, Joe!
Appreciate you B!💯
Nice Review I have watched similar lsg baskets, not impressed most plates have hollow space. I would try getting 2" wide fire brick and there wide enough you can stack them. Pork butt came out nice. You have a great back yard. Happy 4th.
Thx John and Happy 4th boss!! I'm actually shocked that the metal on that basket is so thin. It's almost like an oxymoron to put thin and Lone Star in the same sentence but unfortunately this basket needs a upgrade to meet the high standards they've set by crafting all these great pits. I think I'm going to reach out to them and see what they say.. maybe I did something wrong 🤷🏿♂️
Great review man! Love it and the vibe you have on your channel. Keep up the great work you're part of my Sunday evening line up now, lol.
Thx Kirby, I appreciate your support and feedback 4real 4real. If I done made it into your Sunday lineup I'm officially getting somewhere now! 😁 Happy 4th to you and the fam! ✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
Next time using that id use regular Kingsford in first half of basket then on bottom second half I'd use some lump on bottom then cover up rest with regular Kingsford should give u longer burn time .
You know I did think about using my lump.....🤔🤔
Hey Joe great vid!
Love your content and you make me laugh (drill a hole in the bone and wear it around my neck lol)
Would love a pickled onion vid, always trying to good additions to my brisket/pulled pork sammies!
What's up Paul.. thanks for following along. I'll be honest I'm silly at heart and after little sleep I was all wacked lol. But I be having fun🤷🏿♂️ which is why I do it. I'll get that pickled onion video up this week. It's super easy to do and they do add a nice bit of pop to your bbq Sammies!💯 Stay Tuned... ✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
P.S. I still got that bone downstairs!! 😂😅🤣🤣
That’s a pretty big basket I like it looks like you can actually put a small split in the middle no ? Put more smoke
What's up boss👊🏿 Yea it's a huge basket I could definitely get a smaller split(s) in there with no problem. I got a couple good tips that I'm gonna try here soon w that basket. Thx for checking me out, be sure to see some of the other cooks on the channel!✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
Oh yeah you did that my dude. Looks GOOD. One thing though, It would have turned out a whole lot better if you wasn't wearing that cowgirls hat....... lol GOOD JOB BRUH....
It's officially football season... Shots Fired!!! Lol Appreciate u checking it out and coming thru.. be sure you check out the latest video I just uploaded yesterday... Cowboy Ribeye ;-)✌🏿👊🏿💯
In my LONESTAR IVS there's double wall dividers in the firebox that worked great. Maybe they can do something like that for the offset. Good luck and great video.
What's up Robert.. yea a double walled divider would probably do the trick.. a couple other LSG owners said they just run it without the baffles in it and it works better, Oh well. That's bt the only thing I can complain about with it, so all in all it's nothing. Thanks for coming thru✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
What is an IVS
@@user-cm3wd5hk1p Insulated Vertical Smoker
Dude, just starting this video and I have been wondering about this...awesome content...looking forward to seeing the results.
Thanks bro, I thought it would be an interesting one for the people, I couldnt find one review on it so I figured I'd take one for the team, lol. I guess now we all know! Happy 4th!!✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
Good morning Joe...Steve from California...i too have the charcoal basket n the divider plates blistered...but question...how does your meat stick work in the LSG...i have the 30 in vertical and with the thickness of the smoke chamber walls...do u get a good signal to your phone ???
What up Steve!👊🏿 You know unfortunately my meatstick quit working ok me, but most of the time once I got it synced up I got decent reception when I was outside but a bit hit or miss when I went in the house.
Joe you had that pork barking like Arsenio...Great cook and highly informative. And the review on that basket was legit. Do the onion video👊🏼💯 #blacksmokebarbecue
My dude.. Happy 4th to you and the fam man👊🏿💯💯 I was doing that overnight cook watching your burrito video and that breakfast sandwich I literally had to door dash me some food! 😆 🤣 You helped get yo boy through it!! Copy that, I'll get the onion video up by mid week.✌🏿💯💯
I think if they made the baffles double-walled I think that would provide the offset so heat wouldn’t bridge the baffles.
Agreed! They're just too thin..🤷🏿♂️
Love the video, you did a good job with smoking the pork butt. The next time your fire gets low, put that cap in your fire management basket. Your pit will get back up to temp within seconds.
Lmao, you know for a minute I was thinking what cap he talking bt🤔🤔🤔 then it hit me I forgot who I was talking to! You keep talking season getting close.. and yo boyz got question marks too. Believe me I don't miss a game💯 This ain't over.. Good looking on checking it out as always💯
Good review im sure lone star would love your feedback and input. They can compensate you for making the charcoal basket 2.0 version
Appreciate you 🙏🏿💯💯 I'm gonna Holla at'em
The fire jumping across the divider plates has been a know issue. The plates need an air space maybe 3/8" would do the trick. I've used mine a lot and the basket has held up great once the original mill scale burnt off.
@@wcneathery3100 so it wasn't user error then.. I was thinking back on my cook all morning trying to think if there was something I could or should have done differently.
@@KillerMillerQue absolutely not it's just the design.
Great video. I'll be getting a LSG soon.and was wondering about this basket. Haven't seen any videos on it. Love your videos and going to be binge the rest of your videos today and looking forward to.new ones. But we need to get your a 9ers hat. 😂😂😂
What up Jerry!! I'm glad you found some value in it.. I couldn't find any videos on it either and after doing my 8 month review on my LSG it hit me that I still hadn't tried it, so that's how we got here. I'm glad I did. I got some good videos that you've missed so I'll definitely keep you busy for a day. Be sure and like and comment and let me know what you think and other things you want to see. I'm young in the game so we're still getting better. Happy 4th bro! ✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
And don't just think I was gonna let that 9ers comment go unchecked!! Lmao 😂🤣🤣 Can't wait for football to start!💯💯
I.had to slip that in there.😂😂😂
Football season cant get here fast enough. Happy 4th my man.
@@jerrytaylor2610 Agreed!!
Try using smaller and fewer chunks or just use wood chips and just a little less charcoal you'll get longer burn and less heat, that beast smoker don't need much to retain the heat 👍
Very true... thanks for the tips!👊🏿💯
you should try putting the wood chunks in the middle instead of the bottom start out with even less red hot coals, also try smaller wood chunks, once they catch, your temps are gonna spike. you might also have to choke down the exhaust just a little bit.
Cheese Guy!! Thx for coming thru.. those are all some solid suggestions and consistent with what I heard from some other LSG owners.. sounds like that minion method is the way. I haven't done a 2nd cook on the basket yet, but I'm interested to see how it goes. When I do.. you'll see it up here! Happy Holidays 🍻
Man great video. I'm gobbling up all the content and info I can because I'm shuffling 3 brands in my head. LSG, Shirley and now TMG. Not sure if someone already commented with this observation but I think you turning the vents towards the air intake may have contributed to the high temps. LSG probably designed the basket that way to intentionally limit the air flow for a long slow cook. Great thing is you can always do more experimenting which results in eating more delicious bbq! 😋
Mr E... Thanks for checking it out.. Hopefully you subscribed so you can keep up with the weekly cooks and definitely go back and see some of the ones you missed. With that said sounds like you got a good dilemma on your hands. How big you want to go? Something like mine or bigger/smaller? Also when you gonna pull the trigger? Looking at new pits is like looking at big screen tvs for me.... lol.
Man you know I've got a lot of great feedback and ideas back after I posted this video. But this is the first time anyone said anything about the vents... that's interesting 🤔 initially that's the way I thought the basket would go because of the handle but then I saw the air holes and thought they should be angled towards the vents. I just may have to try that one just to see.. good one!👍🏿 New videos post every Sun am.. make sure you tune in this week, it will be a good one. ✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
@@KillerMillerQue Yessir I'm a new sub. I'm really eyeing that LSG large IVS. Mainly cuz Im eventually going to get into some catering and like you I could always use more sleep. If I do go the offset route it'll be the cabinet model from LSG or more likely the others that can have warmers installed. Probably place an order before the year is out. Those Shirleys and TMGs have close to year lead time but I'm in no rush. I'm in Houston so if I do lose patience LSG is right here.
@@eonreco1472 Cool glad your aboard.. Yea sounds like one way or another you'll be good just take your time and be sure you get what you want. That way you'll have no regrets. 💯 They are all good pits.. but I don't know if either one is built as sturdy as them LSGs.. the metal is just thicker that they use. But I do like the way the TMG's look. But I'm always looking at the offsets.
My weber 26’er with the SNS will do 10 1/2 hours with wood chunks, staggered toward the beginning of the cook. Just a guess I would use about half of the charcoal that you used.
With pretty much the same results. Using a $429 grill!!!
That’s one of the reasons I haven’t bought a $6000-$8000 offset. I mean the offset has the cool factor don’t get me wrong!
But that charcoal basket to me was a total failure!
What up Steven! You already know you can do a lil bit of everything with the ole Weber I actually just put a new video up cooking on mine today. (Be sure to check it out😉) Bt yea that charcoal management basket didn't hit like I wanted luckily once I looked back at it it wasn't that expensive (compared to the price of the grill..smh) but minus that.. it was worth it. It's wayyyyyy more than you need for a grill or to pay for a grill, but it's a nice toy, and the product that comes off of it be on point!💯 just don't get that basket🤣🤣
Try lighting the opposite end of charcoal basket
What's up Barry.. that's a good suggestion 👍🏿👍🏿 I'm definitely going to tinker with it💯💯
All they have to do is reduce the air vent cuts to three or four shorter cuts that means less air intake wich would equal more slow burn time
It's those baffles.. they're just too thin. After 1 cook they were already deteriorating. They end up just conducting heat all the way across.
Looking good like it should...
Thx boss Happy 4th!!👊🏿💯💯
Thanks for the awesome video Joe! I have the charcoal insert that goes inside the cooker for my 20x36 offset. I was thinking how might a charcoal snake would work on the insert inside the cooker or even running my SNS on the charcoal insert inside the cooker. I know I can control the temps better with the SNS although I have yet to experiment with these ideas but some options to consider. I have put a chimney of charcoal on the insert inside my LSG and it got up to 325 on the Tel Tru which means my upper grate was probably around 375. I did that just to find out what the temps might be. Good luck and I will advise if I try one of these other options.....thx again!
Thanks for checking it out, definitely let me know what youbget from your experiments.. since I posted that video I've heard from a few others that have the LSG and the basket and it sounds like taking the baffles out all together and basically doing the minion method inside of the basket works well and holds low steady temps.. I haven't tried it yet but it makes sense. So you can expect I'll be doing that to test sometime soon. Catch you this weekend at the pit!✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
Hey Joe, Alan Heffernan put a thread together in March/2020 on the FB channel of LSG owners which he did some charcoal trial with his 20x42 and a blower. Look it up and read all the comments/questions, it's pretty informative.
@@michaelelias1016 ok I'm going to go back and check that out✌🏿
Great job as usual Bro, keep it going
Appreciate you bro. Happy 4th! ✌🏿👊🏿💯💯
@@KillerMillerQue And the same with you and your family
@@kelvin439 Thx💯
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Awesome video! Can you do a video on those onions?!
Thx E... I appreciate you 👊🏿I got you covered... ua-cam.com/video/hIoBuHj-3B0/v-deo.html
Great review
Thx Bro! 🙏🏿💯💯
How is the taste of the meat ? Because you started with charcoal and do not get a good smoke taste because the meat is sealed once you start cooking with the wood ?
Yea I was wondering about that... it came out fine.. smooth smoke flavor throughout.. the pork was a hit at the party, along w them onions!
How do you like the meat stick.
I bought a meater and hated it. Had so many issues and the thing is junk.
How’s the maintenance and connectivity.
What's up Richie, thanks for reminding me, I have a discount code for the meatstick that I need to pin in the comments... But so far I've used the MeatStick in about 5 cooks/videos and overall it's worked well and I like it. I'm almost ready to do a review on it, but I wanted to use it for awhile to give a good honest review. Most of the time it stays connected well though I have had a few hiccups where I get kicked off during a cook which is the worst!! Be sure to subscribe if you haven't and I'll have that review up soon. Stay Tuned..👊🏿💯💯
What if you tried this in the firebox instead of the charcoal basket:
1. Using fire retardant bricks (I've seen them 4-1/2 in. x 9 in. x 1-1/4 in), set the bricks on their sides and make the same shape with them in the firebox that you have in the charcoal basket.
2. Add your charcoal and wood chunks in the firebox.
3. Light one end of the charcoal.
This should give you a little more space for charcoal since the charcoal basket is a little smaller than the firebox itself and with 1-1/4 in space in between the charcoal rows that would hopefully keep the fire from jumping over and lighting the next row of charcoal and basically let you use the "snake method" in the firebox, which is what the charcoal basket is attempting to do.
🤔🤔🤔 Now that's an interesting thought! I like that👌🏿💯💯
Wow that's a high dollar neighborhood.
These days everything's high out here..
@@KillerMillerQue true
Could you give me recipes for onions name of sauce on bbq.
Say what now?🤔🤔
I believe you could have used water in that smoker
That could have helped too! 👍🏿💯💯
Job well done on that butt, looks delicious 😋...
I used my charcoal basket yesterday for a rib cook (3 racks). I don't use the divider plates just fill basket with lump charcoal and wood chunks, hollow out the center for my lit coals. After I pulled off the ribs 4 1/2 hours I let her continue to burn for 9 hours maintaining 225 to 250 when I decided to open up the intake so she would quickly burn out.
In my opinion the basket works well without the divider plates. My ribs had great flavor were tender, moist and delicious.
Happy 4th boss and as always it's good to hear from you... now onto what you said.... 🤔 Thats interesting so if I understand you correctly get rid of the plates and do the wood chunks and charcoal along the outside of the basket leaving a hole for the lit charcoal and let it go from there? Is that right?
And if I understood you right how many lit charcoals do you start with?
@@KillerMillerQue Apparently 1/2 a Weber charcoal starter. I put a large metal coffee can with the bottom cut out in the middle of the charcoal basket and fill around it with lump charcoal and some evenly dispersed wood chunks. I pour the lit coals into the coffee can then with my welder glove I pull out the can and the lit coals remain behind. The fire burns outward. I can maintain 250ish for 9 plus hours easily. Also I remove one of the bottom expanded metal grates so the burnt ash falls through easier.
@@wcneathery3100 that makes so much sense. Great tip... TY
@@KillerMillerQue Yup
I don’t eat the swine. But I want to know how to cook it.. so I can be good at it all 👍🏿
I feel you J... I'm in here in this sauna right now trying to give some of that hog back as we speak! Lmao.. it's not part of my daily diet but I do find myself dipping in the sauce more than I should 🤷🏿♂️ Stay tuned for this Sunday... I think I got something right down your alley.. I'm still dialing it in, but it should be a good cook 👊🏿💯💯
No Sauce Needed and Not Impressed with the Charcoal Basket
Yea the basket was a bit suspect.. truthfully that was one accessory I really didn't need. I already have a pellet grill if I want to smoke overnight with no effort and I only have to add wood every 45 min to an hour so I could nap and still feed my fire w no issues
To much air in the pit. It’s burning wide open
It wasn't that, it was closed up I just didn't record it. I had it closed down to barley open.. normally with Wood that would give me about 225.. but once it was lit, it went up and stayed up!! I could have tried starting w less lit charcoal and see if that helps. Stay on the lookout for a pt 2 soon!!👊🏿🍻💯💯