If you look closely at the resistor result it says 0.4/0.7 Ohms but the last digit is inside the Ohm symbol. On further inspection the update log of 1.0.5 suggests that this display bug might already have been fixed.
I use an old SIM card as a SMD adapter plate for my existing transistor testers. The SIM bond wires can be seen between the pads, cut them with a knife. It’s wired to allow me to optionally test 3 leg devices which have a solder pad on their bottom.
I love your contents as you know what your on about and I can relate to what is going I'm a complete novice And bought a few types of these to test unknown components as trying to reverse engineer a circuit I had made for me But the creater wiped all info if the components so I could not make myself Well that got my up my goat as paid lots of money Anyway This tester will help me as the others do the same but I'm not convinced they are good As said I don't really know what I'm doing I just want to duplicate my paid circuit That is really simple but my expertise is somewhat questionable to understand So what thing your vids is educating me So thank you for sharing what you do
27:00 I made my own smd transistor tester board that plugs into the standard zif socket. I did lots for different types of packages and in extreme cases I solder the part to the board for testing. No need to make a special board just for that model tester. If you are going to make one make it fit the same type of common zif socket so everyone can use it.
And once again, we see a device fitted with one of those de facto industry-standard, high-quality, "TFXTDOL" ZIF sockets. A reassuring sign of reliability and high-standard engineering, to be sure.
i would say its aceptable solution 😂. Not high quality though. i ve had one bios recorder with tfxtdol long time ago that oxidate completaly after 1 year, but the new ones seems much better. I hope so.🤣
I would suggest making a plastic ''mask'' to go over the top of the SMD jig, so that the different parts have a hole to go into that aligns them correctly with the pads, and stops them moving around when you apply pressure. Better still, make a ''mask / pressure pad '' device to go over the top of the SMD jig.
If the 3 pin socket on the SMD adapter was put on the upper side maybe the spring clips could be used for checking some devices with pin placement issues. It also annoyed me when you had to press the test button multiple times to get a reading. It has the potential to be a useful addition to the tool box but I think Fnirsi need to tweak and adjust it. Cheers Eric.
I saw another YT video on these , they did the update to get more correct testing of some components . But I cannot update mine until I get access to a Windows confuzer ;) By the way - PEAK has a surface mount accessory also ;) Thanks again
Hi Richard, Nice review. It is a pity the unit doesn't recognise some components. At about double the price of others currently on the market and the low quality control exhibited in the connection clips, I can't see many people purchasing it.
I also hope that very few people buy it. Based on the tests I have seen so far and my own experience, the entire brand should be avoided. I haven't seen a test where the same component was tested multiple times to see if it measures or just guesses. It doesn't seem reliable, based on the history of Fniris so far, I wouldn't hope that the bugs will be fixed. Instead, they will release another nicer, also shitty version. Unfortunately, as long as there are customers who can be deceived, Fnirsi will deceive them.
My FNIRSI DSO-TC3 works much in the same way, regarding component testing, and also IR decoding. Only a few IR remotes are decoded. Seems they use same SW
It might be interesting to test it multiple times with the same (or identical) components to see if the values are consistent. I remember seeing a test of a similar product from Fnirsi (DSO-TC3) where the ESR for example was all over the place. It was essentially a random number generator. And now this thing can't do the SCRs properly either. Call me crazy but when you buy something like this for repair work, wouldn't you want to know that it's actually reliable? It also does not specify how the ESR is measured. The cheap 4$ testers for instance can't do a proper frequency test (because their MCU isn't fast enough for that) so they guesstimate. Does this do the same or does it have frequency testing? And if so, at how many Hertz? Maybe scoping the terminals during the test could answer that question.
I'm also surprised that they don't test a lot more than once. A piece of measurement is not a measurement... Accurate ESR measurement is not possible with such a device. it would be good for comparison, but Fnirsi is just guessing. It is a pity that it cannot even identify the type of component. Much cheaper devices perform better. It's not even true to its own spec.
I was able to nab this at $23US. It sure looks one hell of a lot nicer than the TC-1 that I modified to have built-in mini-grabber cables. Not sure if I'll modify this one though. It looks too nice without having colored leads sticking out of it somewhere. 🤔
I though maybe a design could be done with a small add on circiut board mounted on top of a small plastic box with the same surface mount design (improved) as the one that comes with the FNIRSI and connect it to the PEAK using the connectig clip leads on small board pins, giving free licence on pad size, distance, variety and maybe away of some kind of pressure fixing.
JAT or as i like to say Just Another Tester. you need to do a tear down so we can see how little there is in side. i expect the cap and resistor testing is just done with charging and discharging a cap as this can be done very easy with a uC.
21:00 to test that type of package (on a supported part) simply bend the middle leg up 0.5mm then you don't need to be so precise about positioning it.
9:06 The clips should be fine. When working properly the clip will pull in fully and hold anything as the clip actually goes inside the edge so it'll even hold something 0.1mm. You need to bend the end slightly so it goes through the hole in the plastic support. It looks to be currently misaligned. If they really don't go fully inside even when the brass piece is aligned correctly then they are junk and that's a FAIL ;-)
It does look like there is something wrong with those test clips - I have the same clips and on mine the metal loop/hook will disappear into the plastic housing if there is no wire for it to clamp down on so they will clamp on very fine wires. Have the hooks not been bent around enough or is there an obstruction in the plastic end where the hook needs to pass through ? Edit - I should have watched to the very end before commenting
You're right, the hooks simply aren't bent properly. I bought a bunch of those test clips from AliExpress, and a few of them had that issue, easily rectified with a pair of pliers. (On the other hand, it seems all of them have the "breaks and falls apart after a few weeks of light use" issue.)
Hello Richard, what have you done to this channel? Suddenly I hear a weird voice that translates your words into german language. Sure, english language is not my native language. By listening to english speakers, so I can train my language comprehension (the last sentence is translated by google translator). How can I disable this "creepy" speaker? Best regards to you and your family and Det and Carlos. Günther (I'm sure Detlef can tell more about "Umlauts")
Sorry Richard that I thought it had been initiated by yourself. But it's a youtube thing. They had switched the audio language to "german". Now I know how to change the audio language in the video settings. Sure, it's a nice feature, but don't trust these translation machines because they sometimes have problems undestanding the words when they are not properly pronounced. Best regards from Germany
You are too kind to FNIRSI the thing is a piece of junk actually. The older TC1 testers are half the price and way better. It can't measure many devices, SCR's, Diacs, Triacs, Shottky Diodes, Twin diodes in TO220 packages,. etc. the TC1 was able to identify these. Also the Capacitance ESR is way out. I did a review on my channel of the LCR-P1 and it failed. The interface is annoying since you have to press the test button twice. As I said the TC1 and TC3 testers are cheaper and way better don't waste money on this thing. I emailed FNIRSI they chose not to respond and I tested it with the latest firmware and I do not trust they will ever fix it.
Hmmm, a company that sends you a product to review but doesn't have the acumen to review their own documentation calling a MOSFET a moistet cannot be trusted to produce anything reliable or serious fault finding equipment. The person that sent you that should be sacked for making the company look stupid. Or worse, thinks you are the fool that will promote it. And watching your video even more... "Test in process" who the hell ever said "test in process". "Test in progress" yes, "Test in process"?????? Are they saying you have to "test the way you are attaching and using the piece of kit"? And here's me on a rant. Do they discharge the capacitor in the kit before any measurement cos some of them testers get broken when a capacitor is put in situ for testing. You and Sorin are both on a testing spree today :)
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If you look closely at the resistor result it says 0.4/0.7 Ohms but the last digit is inside the Ohm symbol.
On further inspection the update log of 1.0.5 suggests that this display bug might already have been fixed.
I use an old SIM card as a SMD adapter plate for my existing transistor testers. The SIM bond wires can be seen between the pads, cut them with a knife. It’s wired to allow me to optionally test 3 leg devices which have a solder pad on their bottom.
I love your contents as you know what your on about and I can relate to what is going
I'm a complete novice
And bought a few types of these to test unknown components as trying to reverse engineer a circuit I had made for me
But the creater wiped all info if the components so I could not make myself
Well that got my up my goat as paid lots of money
Anyway
This tester will help me as the others do the same but I'm not convinced they are good
As said I don't really know what I'm doing
I just want to duplicate my paid circuit
That is really simple but my expertise is somewhat questionable to understand
So what thing your vids is educating me
So thank you for sharing what you do
Thank you so much. Excellent video. Keep up the good work
27:00 I made my own smd transistor tester board that plugs into the standard zif socket. I did lots for different types of packages and in extreme cases I solder the part to the board for testing. No need to make a special board just for that model tester. If you are going to make one make it fit the same type of common zif socket so everyone can use it.
And once again, we see a device fitted with one of those de facto industry-standard, high-quality, "TFXTDOL" ZIF sockets. A reassuring sign of reliability and high-standard engineering, to be sure.
i would say its aceptable solution 😂. Not high quality though. i ve had one bios recorder with tfxtdol long time ago that oxidate completaly after 1 year, but the new ones seems much better. I hope so.🤣
Awesome job Rich
I would suggest making a plastic ''mask'' to go over the top of the SMD jig, so that the different parts have a hole to go into that aligns them correctly with the pads, and stops them moving around when you apply pressure.
Better still, make a ''mask / pressure pad '' device to go over the top of the SMD jig.
I was waiting fot one to go 'Ping' when pressed 😁
Bravissimo
I like the SMD testing board idea
You need to bent the clips a little bit because the hook needs to fall in a slot ive got the same issue
If the 3 pin socket on the SMD adapter was put on the upper side maybe the spring clips could be used for checking some devices with pin placement issues.
It also annoyed me when you had to press the test button multiple times to get a reading.
It has the potential to be a useful addition to the tool box but I think Fnirsi need to tweak and adjust it.
Cheers Eric.
I saw another YT video on these , they did the update to get more correct testing of some components .
But I cannot update mine until I get access to a Windows confuzer ;)
By the way - PEAK has a surface mount accessory also ;)
Thanks again
Hi Richard, Nice review. It is a pity the unit doesn't recognise some components. At about double the price of others currently on the market and the low quality control exhibited in the connection clips, I can't see many people purchasing it.
I also hope that very few people buy it.
Based on the tests I have seen so far and my own experience, the entire brand should be avoided.
I haven't seen a test where the same component was tested multiple times to see if it measures or just guesses.
It doesn't seem reliable, based on the history of Fniris so far, I wouldn't hope that the bugs will be fixed.
Instead, they will release another nicer, also shitty version.
Unfortunately, as long as there are customers who can be deceived, Fnirsi will deceive them.
My FNIRSI DSO-TC3 works much in the same way, regarding component testing, and also IR decoding. Only a few IR remotes are decoded. Seems they use same SW
It might be interesting to test it multiple times with the same (or identical) components to see if the values are consistent. I remember seeing a test of a similar product from Fnirsi (DSO-TC3) where the ESR for example was all over the place. It was essentially a random number generator. And now this thing can't do the SCRs properly either.
Call me crazy but when you buy something like this for repair work, wouldn't you want to know that it's actually reliable?
It also does not specify how the ESR is measured. The cheap 4$ testers for instance can't do a proper frequency test (because their MCU isn't fast enough for that) so they guesstimate. Does this do the same or does it have frequency testing? And if so, at how many Hertz? Maybe scoping the terminals during the test could answer that question.
I'm also surprised that they don't test a lot more than once.
A piece of measurement is not a measurement...
Accurate ESR measurement is not possible with such a device.
it would be good for comparison, but Fnirsi is just guessing.
It is a pity that it cannot even identify the type of component.
Much cheaper devices perform better.
It's not even true to its own spec.
I was able to nab this at $23US. It sure looks one hell of a lot nicer than the TC-1 that I modified to have built-in mini-grabber cables. Not sure if I'll modify this one though. It looks too nice without having colored leads sticking out of it somewhere. 🤔
I though maybe a design could be done with a small add on circiut board mounted on top of a small plastic box with the same surface mount design (improved) as the one that comes with the FNIRSI and connect it to the PEAK using the connectig clip leads on small board pins, giving free licence on pad size, distance, variety and maybe away of some kind of pressure fixing.
I wonder if it's based on the LCR-TC1/MK-328
Heya, yes making 1 or 2 pcb with PCBWay great idee
I would love to see you build an smd board that works with the peak and also the fnirsi
JAT or as i like to say Just Another Tester. you need to do a tear down so we can see how little there is in side. i expect the cap and resistor testing is just done with charging and discharging a cap as this can be done very easy with a uC.
We can do a teardown on the livestream this coming Sunday 3rd November 5pm UK time
@@LearnElectronicsRepair Software update, repeat the test (e.g. SCR), disassemble the product.
21:00 to test that type of package (on a supported part) simply bend the middle leg up 0.5mm then you don't need to be so precise about positioning it.
you have old firmware, now is 1.06. I just updated mine yesterday.
Yes please make that adapter stevepb
Cool...Needs a Update...
9:06 The clips should be fine. When working properly the clip will pull in fully and hold anything as the clip actually goes inside the edge so it'll even hold something 0.1mm. You need to bend the end slightly so it goes through the hole in the plastic support. It looks to be currently misaligned. If they really don't go fully inside even when the brass piece is aligned correctly then they are junk and that's a FAIL ;-)
It does look like there is something wrong with those test clips - I have the same clips and on mine the metal loop/hook will disappear into the plastic housing if there is no wire for it to clamp down on so they will clamp on very fine wires. Have the hooks not been bent around enough or is there an obstruction in the plastic end where the hook needs to pass through ?
Edit - I should have watched to the very end before commenting
You're right, the hooks simply aren't bent properly. I bought a bunch of those test clips from AliExpress, and a few of them had that issue, easily rectified with a pair of pliers.
(On the other hand, it seems all of them have the "breaks and falls apart after a few weeks of light use" issue.)
@@ser_olmy I did fix the clips at the end of the video by bending them a little bit
You could ask them to change the message to "test in progress". That would annoy the hell out of me!
not seen anything from FNIRSI that looked any good
in its current state its not useful for work. your peak tools is generations better
1000% agree.... and what's with gain levels only up to 600? No darlington pairs, I guess.
The Peak tool also costs over 3x as much here in Canada $120
Hello Richard, what have you done to this channel? Suddenly I hear a weird voice that translates your words into german language. Sure, english language is not my native language. By listening to english speakers, so I can train my language comprehension (the last sentence is translated by google translator). How can I disable this "creepy" speaker? Best regards to you and your family and Det and Carlos. Günther (I'm sure Detlef can tell more about "Umlauts")
Sorry Richard that I thought it had been initiated by yourself. But it's a youtube thing. They had switched the audio language to "german". Now I know how to change the audio language in the video settings. Sure, it's a nice feature, but don't trust these translation machines because they sometimes have problems undestanding the words when they are not properly pronounced. Best regards from Germany
Is not good device esr meeting is faulty with this device and triac and thyristors doesn't work.
I showed the device as it is and let viewers make up their own mind. There were sme features I liked and some that I didn't
@LearnElectronicsRepair yes i know see also review from defpoms electronics repair did also a review abouth that
You are too kind to FNIRSI the thing is a piece of junk actually. The older TC1 testers are half the price and way better. It can't measure many devices, SCR's, Diacs, Triacs, Shottky Diodes, Twin diodes in TO220 packages,. etc. the TC1 was able to identify these. Also the Capacitance ESR is way out. I did a review on my channel of the LCR-P1 and it failed. The interface is annoying since you have to press the test button twice. As I said the TC1 and TC3 testers are cheaper and way better don't waste money on this thing. I emailed FNIRSI they chose not to respond and I tested it with the latest firmware and I do not trust they will ever fix it.
Hmmm, a company that sends you a product to review but doesn't have the acumen to review their own documentation calling a MOSFET a moistet cannot be trusted to produce anything reliable or serious fault finding equipment. The person that sent you that should be sacked for making the company look stupid. Or worse, thinks you are the fool that will promote it.
And watching your video even more... "Test in process" who the hell ever said "test in process". "Test in progress" yes, "Test in process"?????? Are they saying you have to "test the way you are attaching and using the piece of kit"?
And here's me on a rant. Do they discharge the capacitor in the kit before any measurement cos some of them testers get broken when a capacitor is put in situ for testing.
You and Sorin are both on a testing spree today :)
It does say in the user manual it will automatically discharge capacitors before testing, but recommends you do this manually first anyway
WTF are ''Durchgangsloch-Komponententransistoren'' ? German Videotitle.
Please UA-cam/Google Stop this BS an don't Autotranslate Video titles.