At first i thought it was just racist, and it is, but then there's a sort of poetry to them giving a cliche Slavic accent to the defender, and an American accent to the prosecutor of Lenin. Those who experienced life under him would defend him, while those in the "prosperous west" would not. Great vid as always
capital can be kinda ironic surprisingly often, just like "police socialism" i guess, watching this makes me feel like i can understand what communicating with aliens must be like, let's just say my vision of reality is kinda different from that of most people from north america, i guess some mexicans ought to be down for our beautiful URSAL lmao, or in less meme-speak, patria grande
Didn't expect to see you here, Tovarisch. I love you and your boys at the Deprogram. And it is indeed good that the one experiencing Lenin is the one defending him. They accidentally made their video better with that detail.
To this day Russian anticommunists talk about an "unprecedented growth" that Russiam empire was going through in the decades before the WWI, talking about 100%, 200% growth. But when you look at it more closely that 100% growth ends up being something like going from 5 tractors countrywide in 1912 to 10 tractors countrywide in 1913. Absolutely meaningless numbers for a country of 130 million ppl
Reminds me of Monty Python. "Apart from doubling life expectancy, ending illiteracy, homelessness and unemployment, giving healthcare, 8 hour work day, rights to own language and culture, ending slavery....... ...what have the Bolsheviks ever done for us?!"
History in general is abandoned, only a surface of it is known by the masses. Pop culture history just dominates the narratives than actual researches. Here in Vietnam history is also abandoned too.
@@Polinkazh no, I think this is a different question. Let's talk Belarus as an example. According to government 2020 sources its population is 9.3kk. 51% of them are 40+ years old. These are the people who saw the end of USSR when they where at least 8. (Or we can take 50+, people who where 18+ in 1991. That would be 37% of the population.) We can define them as people who might or might not miss USSR. Next, do they miss? I bet most of them do miss certain attributes, or their childhood, whatever. However, post soviet propaganda does work. I can discuss pretty specific things on the matter, if you'd like to. Education is heavy anti-soviet, pop culture is anti-soviet, journalism is anti-soviet etc. People who think they are in opposition to the mainstream are not in our (yours and mine) sense. If you'd like to know my opinion, I call Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan and similar "страны побежденного социализма" ("countries of defeated socialism") as an irony reference to "страны победившего социализма" ("countries of victorious socialism"). Countries where almost each and every person consider himself as a temporary indigent millionaire (временно бедствующие миллионеры). "Just one more bad year - next year I will definitely end on top!" "I will run my own successful business in 5 years if I'd like to! I just need to gather myself, I need to make my mind! One more year on this shitty job and that's it." And so on. Temporary indigent millionaires. Going back to my point. I think that most of history taught and known is heavily anti-sovietly biased. That's what I've meant.
The actual writer of the video is a communist. He's actually a very smart guy. The video was written to tell both sides of the argument but Alex is on the pro-lenin side. I know everyone here is goign to disagree with me but I know the guy.
@@seanicus100 nah, i am not gonna disagree, this video is as good as Ted would allow to publish. Is he the same guy who did video on Che? Cause that one was really good - i never expected the Ted video in which the CIA is openly called out on overthrowing governments.
Liberals sadly lack much in the way of cognition when it comes to capitalism vs socialism. They think that gay, trans, lesbian, nb, women’s, black and other ethnic minority rights will actually be solved under capitalism. They are that stupid
Damn, I didn’t know Lenin ate a shot to the neck. Can’t blame him for stomping the anarchists out after that. Idk if Lenin was just super lucky or if he had really high constitution.
Long live Comrade Vladimir Lenin on overthrowing the criminal Tsar and abolished the most inhumane system that is capitalism, hats off to the Bolsheviks on defending the people's revolution from the capitalist hoards of the West crushing 14 invading armies! He was a great statesman, a great writer, a great activist and a great man! 🚩☭🦬🏳️⚧️
Here I want to correct you. V. I. Lenin did not overthrow the tsar. The tsar fucked everyone up so much that the bourgeoisie overthrew him when the capitalists realized that demonstrations and strikes in Petrograd could not be stopped. So the bourgeoisie thought to cool the people's speeches.
@@gustaveliasson5395 nah, they had plenty of remnants systems from feudalism, especially in superstructure, but it was pretty much capitalism at that point.
@@gustaveliasson5395 Since the sixties of the nineteenth century, the Westernization of the country took place in the Russian Empire: Peasant communities were razzoryali and stratified, there was an explosive growth of industry and banking. But the country was headed by large feudal lords closely allied with bankers and entrepreneurs.
12:57 The royal family was not in Ryazan, but in Yekaterinburg, the Urals, and after the uprising of the Czechoslovaks, the Whites moved towards the city in July 1918.
It was created by liberal academia to equate the Soviets with the Nazis, to equate fascism with communism. Unfortunately, it's worked so well because you have people believing that the Italian Fascists and German Nazis were socialists and that their economies were socialist. A key point here is that the bourgeoisie want to conceal the fact that these economies were capitalist and that these factions were pro-capitalist, capitalist- and landlord-backed, and not just by those of their own countries, but by foreign capitalists, too, especially US ones. And this "scholarship" on "totalitarianism", I'm reasonably sure, originated in the US.
@@sentientnatalieIt actually originated in Austria with the remnants of the second internationale but it’s still a stupid concept used to exalt bourgeois values
@@jeebusthegreat8819 Interesting! What was their throught process for inventing such a term? We know that the 2nd Int was highly revisionist, socdems, though they weren't pro-capitalism back then were very reformist, like the demsocs of today, iirc, I hope I got that right.
The provisional government promised to convene but kept delaying the creation of the constituent assembly, which was to have established a constitution for Russia. Kerensky eventually was moving to impose a capitalist autocratic dictatorship as a "temporary measure" that always goes well.
As a Vietnamese, who is allowed to approach the REAL historical documents (not those revisionism from US or Western media), I would say that this Teded vid is GROSS-GUSTING!
The "fines" you describe are still used by capitalist and petit-bourgeois alike against the very poorest workers (e.g. "illegals" and "temporary foreign workers", who have no recourse even when they know it's illegal).
Hiring illegal workers is also punishable but the degree of fines are vastly asymmetrical compared to what the workers would face should they pissed off the employers.
@@minhducnguyen9276 Here in so-called Canada, the workers are not illegal. Au contraire, the government effectively sells permits to capitalists to allow them to hire foreign workers who get no citizenship rights, and can be deported at the whim of their employer.
@@fun_ghoul German laws suddenly sound much more civilized than these. This is just another way to get indentured servants without calling it indentured servants.
It wasn't really abolished at all. Many things in capitalism caome from slave labor, like cocoa beans and many other cash crops. They just pushed most of it out of "developed" countries.
@@nonono4160 You're talking about wage slavery, which is also bad, but different. I mean the OG kind: Work for no money, on pain of violence up to and including death.
@@fun_ghoul no, actual slavery. I know what i am talking about. You can google some of it with key words like "Nestle child adbuction slave labor cocoa plantations" or something like that. Also it's definitely not "OG kind", since slavery existed since way back and never really vanished, wherever under feudalism or capitalism, though the economic relations around it did change often changing the nature of said slavery too. But the "labor under force (thread of violence or death) performed by captive person" stayed more or less the same. You can read "Blood and Money" by McNally if you want to go deeper into the topic.
@@nonono4160 Slavery did change, though. The distinguishing feature of "New World" enslavement of Africans was that they were bought and sold as property, which was a capitalist innovation compared to feudal slavery, which was usually because a people-group lost a war. Good call on the current slavery, though.
@@fun_ghoul yeah, economic formation did affect forms that slavery took significantly. The more i study history and capitalism specifically the more i have moments like going from "capitalism is pretty bad" to "oh, it's actually way worse".
I think it's funny that the accent difference gives the subtle implication that the "history" in the "history v. Lenin" is the perspective of the United States
His "trial" format is especially annoying to me because it reminds me of Igor Talkov's concerts where he had his own "trials" against Soviet Union while making fun of Internationale and Whirlwinds of Danger in the process.
I became a communist and later a Marxist, starting with this very video. When I didn't know the history, the nuances, and argued with people, but because I often lost, I began to correct the theses, and then became an advocate of Lenin and later Stalin. Information has to be learned in large quantities to acquire quality. And such a superficial presentation as Ted's simply makes the masses misunderstand, and only those who will continue studying the half-truths are able to understand them. Unfortunately most people do not have time for this. And the truth will be in the public domain only after the socialist revolution around the world.
@@ФедяКрюков-в6ь ты же на русском говоришь? Коммунистом был в смысле не знающим теорию, диалектику, материализм и политэкономию. Да можно это назвать утопическим коммунистом, я же назвал бы это скорее сочувствующий коммунистическим или социалистическим идеям. С нотками реакционерства и культами личностей революции.
Hi, please do book recommendations especially for learning history. It’s too difficult for me (same as anyone) to assess credibility and sort out scientific facts and bullshit
Great video as always! Yeah, these kinds of videos (the kind you responded to here) can be really annoying. Watching them with your commentary (or similar) is the only way I'd really *want* to watch them, heh.
When americans call the soviet union a dictatorship but the cia has a literal document that says that Stalin was not a dictator 1. Even in Stalin's time there was collective leadership. The Western idea of a dictator within the communist setup is exaggerated. Misunderstandings on that subject are caused by lack of comprehension of the real nature and organization of the communist power structure. Stalin, although holding wide powers, was merely the captain of a team and it seems obvious that Khrushchev will be the new captain. However, it does not appear that any of the present leaders will rise to the stature ofLennin and Stalin, so that it will be safer to assume that developments in Moscow will be along the lines of what is called collective leadership, unless western policies force the soviets to streamline their power oganization. The pressent situation is the most favorable from the point of view of upsetting the communist dictatorship since the death of Stalin. That's what the cia document say about the so called Soviet dictairship!
My friend, I’d like to add something at 8:14 or so. The specific reason the Bolsheviks didn’t attempt to seize state power during that July, is because they didn’t have the majority of the Moscow and Petrograd soviets yet. In August, when the Soviets held their next elections, the Bolsheviks had won the majority of both. In the first paragraph of “The Bolsheviks Must Assume State Power,” (written immediately after the October Petrograd uprising), he points out to the Bolsheviks that because they didn’t win the majority of the Moscow and Petrograd soviets in April, they didn’t have the hegemony to assume state power in the July uprising, but now that they had won the majority in august, it was time to fulfill the slogan they campaigned on when they won the soviets, “All Power to the Soviets.”
Great Video,a little problem,Basarabia was a part of Romania ,the russian took it forcefully and the the Romanians took it back when they had the chance
Hey Finnish. I have a couple questions: 1. Can you please give me some pro-Stalin sources for Holodomor and 5 Year Plans? 2. Recommended works from Stalin?
1. read another view of stalin by ludo martens, stalin: a critique of a black legend by domenco lasurdo (P.S. another view of stalin is the easiest book to read abt stalin)
1. Here is a short blog post: mltheory.wordpress.com/2020/12/24/the-holodomor-explained/ Also Blood lies, and "Fraud, famine and Fascism" ua-cam.com/video/58ALYrrStXQ/v-deo.html Also this mltheory.wordpress.com/2016/08/07/the-results-of-the-1st-2nd-soviet-five-year-plans-soviet-industrial-revolution/ 2. -"Foundations of Leninism" www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1924/foundations-leninism/index.htm -"Dialectical and historical materialism" www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm -"Marxism and the national question" www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03.htm -Problems of Leninism www.marx2mao.com/Stalin/POLtc.html -On the opposition www.marx2mao.com/Stalin/OTOtc.html
always great to see you post tavarish you probably already heard of TIK, but if you haven't he's a ww2 youtuber rightwing """""""""""""""historian""""""""""""""" who's recent bs regarding Hitler being a socialist has gained a lot of traction online. In general it seems that this particular rhetoric is resurfacing everywhere and his pseudo science approach to analyzing history is only making it worse.
I’ve seen that too and it’s so much disappointing he does pretty good analyzing battles though but his Hitler was a socialist opinion is a sigh I hope he’s able to realign his view in the future and perhaps rethink this position
@@johay899 I doubt he ever will, he's a liberal ideologue to the core and from my understanding of him, his interests align too much with the status quo. his analysis of hitler as a socialist really highlights how objectivity is conditional in the world view of liberals and fascists, none the less, his bullshit just promotes more "soft" conservatism disguised as "centrism" which just feeds more disgruntled and impressionable young "men" into going down the online fascist pipeline.
@@bob-lk5et TIK's first such video was trolled so hard in the comments that he made the unhinged 5 hour raga follow-up. I had a comment with a couple thousand likes, but it suddenly disappeared. Truth hurts, I guess. 🤣
With citations too. The more the better to shut the fuck up right-wing reactionaries. Something similar to this by Princeton professor and conservative Stephen Kotkin, perhaps America's leading expert on Stalin, as well as a vocal critic, who explained on episode 184 of The American Interest podcast that although he thinks Stalin has blood on his hands for the famine, he doesn't even consider the famine to be intentional. "I'm an empirical person. Today, in our country, it's more important than ever to have facts and to line up your facts and to substantiate, to document. You can't just argue what you want to be true, you have to argue on the basis of evidence. What's the evidence we have on this question of the intentionality or not of the famine of 1931-33? "We have an unbelievable number of documents showing Stalin committing intentional murder, with the Great Terror, as you alluded to earlier, and with other episodes. He preserved these documents-he would not try to clean up his image internally-and these documents are very damning. There is no shortage of documentation when Stalin committed intentional murder. "However, there is no documentation showing that he intended to starve Ukraine, or that he intended to starve the peasants. "Ask yourself, why are there no documents showing intentional murder or genocide of these people when we have those documents for all the other episodes? "...the intentionality question is completely undermined by the documents on the record." - from the podcast The American Interest, Episode 184: Stephen Kotkin on Stalin. Richard Aldous speaks with Stephen Kotkin about his book, Stalin: Waiting for Hitler, 1929-1941.
@@fun_ghoul And one of the main reasons we are able to understand so much about the atrocities of certain countries, not just the USSR, is because of the amount of archives historians are able to rescue (the Soviet archives were released shortly after the dissolution of the USSR, at the end of 1991 for those who are not aware). Also, historians don't just blindly parrot what the archives say, historians are able to and willing to expand on them and find places where a government might be lying or underestimating, but this doesn't change the fact that the archives are fundamentally important.
Hey! Slightly off top. Do you have good recommendations on books or blogs about modern Finland? In Russia many people believe that Finland is “best place, why they can build socialism, while we build authoritarian shit???” Thanks for video
Short History of the USSR by A. V. Shestakov (ed.) communismarchive2.files.wordpress.com/2022/11/1938_a_short_history_of_the_ussr_textbook_for_3-4th_classes.pdf A History of the USSR by A. M. Pankratova (ed.) part 1 communismarchive2.files.wordpress.com/2022/11/history_of_the_ussr_part1.pdf part 2 communismarchive2.files.wordpress.com/2022/11/history_of_the_ussr_part2.pdf part 3 communismarchive2.files.wordpress.com/2022/11/history_of_the_ussr_part3.pdf The History of the civil war in the USSR part 1 communismarchive2.files.wordpress.com/2022/11/1936_the_civil_war_in_the_ussr_volume1.pdf part 2 communismarchive2.files.wordpress.com/2022/11/1946_the_civil_war_in_the_ussr_volume2.pdf The History of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (Bolsheviks) - Short Course ua-cam.com/video/_Lygu-El7U0/v-deo.html Another View of Stalin by Ludo Martens docs.google.com/gview?url=mltheory.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/another-view-of-stalin1.pdf&embedded=true&embedded=true You can find a lot more here mltheory.wordpress.com/the-real-history-of-the-soviet-union/
13:34. But I had heard that Leon Trotsky wrote in his diary in 1935 that he was told by Sverdlov that Lenin had ordered the killings? I guess the conclusion to take from this is that, although we take value from Lenin's theories, we should not try to model ourselves after him ethically or defending executing children simply because he thought it was ok.
He also had areas where he had a lack in perspective, such as him utterly "dunking" on religion, when it was mostly a dunk on Christianity, and completely missed Islam, possibly due to him never being experienced with it.
3:10 im pretty sure not only just fines were seen as normal, if you gave any lip in response, or tried to quit, you could receive a vicious beating. like, history of this period is where we get the "rule of thumb" which limits the size of a stick you can beat your wife with. at this point in time, it wasnt really illegal to kick the shit out of a kid if they dropped a chunk of coal in the wrong spot lol
@@burtgrabmore2972 indeed. To work was to effectively risk your life or health even in alot of the mundane positions theyd hire people for. If the foreman broke your hand when "disciplining" theyd just replace you.
Andre Fursov speaks towards your point regarding the disintegration of Russia if certain actors gained state control. He posits that the "deep nationalist faction" saw in and understood that the socialist were right, regarding the promotion of Russia industrial development vis a vis the whites. Something like that. Regardless, red salute!
Do you have any book recommendations or sources that are revolutionary or marxist analyses of the world wars? i think you would do a great job at a video series on the topic!!
By the way, not sure about your statement on local languages throughout the Soviet Union. My wife is from Sakha Republic and there they do not even have Sakha language being taught at schools in Yakutsk, even less in the Universities where Russian is the sole language. Not sure if it was different during the Soviet period but I don't believe it was the case. As far as I know, there are no constitutional provision that places national languages on the same level of Russian during the Soviet time, but looking forward for more info on that.
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 Article 40 says: Laws passed by the Supreme Soviet of the U.S.S.R. are published in the languages of the Union Republics over the signatures of the President and Secretary of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the U.S.S.R. Which are those languages? And simply to publish legislation is very far from equal status. Article 110 is the same for judicial proceedings. Finally, article 121 does not grant for native language teaching at University level, it states: by instruction in schools being conducted in the native Ianguage (I assume that schools here are not equated to Universities and professional schools). Let's assume that this constitutional article does cover higher education. We have to know if in practice, the authorities were applying or not this provision. Returning to the Sakha example, if University was bilingual, this would be kept (at least partially) today, which is not the case. A more historical example, the Germans from the Volga who were deported to Kazakhstan never regained their language status back. Even the Soviet propaganda material is very slavic-centered (a mere analysis of the soviet posters of the time will show that) so I would not have such a rosy image of the politics of nationalities in the Soviet Union, even if we agree that it was much better then the British or the French from both legal and practical perspectives.
@@MK-jc6us I do not know if university education existed in every small language. However, the constitution does mention education and official business in republic languages at least. Before the USSR that wasn't the case. I know that for example, Finnish was used in Karelo-Finnish ssr alongside Russian and Karelian. Certainly the same was the case in bigger Union Republics too. The volga Germans are clearly an exception.
@@nonono4160 You didn't answer to the question. First, I never said "it was the same now and then". I just disputed the rosy idea that local languages enjoyed equal status (both legally and in practice despite some legal basis that was an advancement). Second, I agree that Soviet model was a clear improvement when compared to language mono-systems like in France or in the UK. FinnishBolshevik said that the German case (Germans from Saratov mainly) was an exception. About Sakha language, my question is still unanswered, it was used in higher education during the Soviet period, yes or no? FinnishBolshevik says it was too small to count. So I wonder how other "bigger" languages were used in the educational system. In Central Asia it seems that a mix of technical but also practical and political considerations were taken (which is normal). Of course, I don't expect for any purist or excellent outcome of the language changes decided during the 20's and the 30's. I just refuse any romantic view of all languages being treated in a balanced manner, devoid of all prejudice and bias. It is also important to note that Soviet Union during the revolutionary period had a real need to flirt with nationalist demands (which included language-related) while after the 50's this need was lesser.
I always assumed that both the defence and prosecutor are made to not be likeable so factual evidence highlighted more. The prosecutor is using English language in a British way but the voice actor is clearly English, always annoyed me.
Tsar was dropped by bourgeoisie with right wings army support - February revolution. Not by Bolsheviks... Bolsheviks (army sailors, workers, and solders) dropped bourgeoisie temporary government in October, tsar was out for a long time.
I have this video ua-cam.com/video/U317xVjMYes/v-deo.html and this blog post mltheory.wordpress.com/2014/06/24/stalin-on-the-cult-of-personality/ There's a lot more stuff too, but I'd need to go through my notes to find it.
I was not even aware of the existence of TedEds...this is an official new crap being released by the Ted group? Their neo-evangelist style around tech and entrepreneurship are stupid enough in the original format, no need to create spin-offs.
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 The Russian Empire annexed it in 1812 with the Treaty of Bucharest. We just took the opportunity to get it back. And failed. And still do. Many Romanians were deported from those regions by the Soviet leadership. I am a socialist btw.
@TheFinnishBolshevik care to share some more specific docs on those USSR attempts to define an aggressive country and western obstructions of those efforts?
Well, that one is actually a decent video (considering where it comes from). Obviously it's not super communist but the author intentionally made the "opposition" to communist talking points have really bad and stupid arguments (just like in realf life, lol). I don't think it would get published at all if he got full blown commie. Their video on Che is even better, they actually call out CIA on making violent coup. Which is a lot more than i usually expect from liberal media.
i saw a comment you made under some ML's blog post about how the gulag archipelago is made up earlier today, and now i find your youtube channel. wacky, i suppose?
I know Stalin is smeared and lied about but what should I make of his relationship to Beria and Lysenko? We are told Beria committed horrible crimes and Stalin allowed this to take place and was completely aware or his actions. Also, it is said that Lysenko was held up by Stalin which is what caused the famine. Are these just more Western lies and do you have any sources discussing these issues specially?
1. If Beria committed crimes and Stalin knew about it, why would Stalin allow it? 2. There has never been any evidence that Lysenko's ideas diminished farm yields (even anti-Lysenko authors such as Lewontin have stated that). Furthermore, Lysenko only achieved any significant power in 1935, while the famine happened in 1932-33.
Who has told us that Beria and Lysenko 'committed horrible crimes'? Is it the same people whose myths are debunked in this and other videos by the FinnishBolshevik? I think so. It is possible they did commit crimes, but we need to see evidence from reliable sources and trustworthy reporters.
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 Thank you for the reply! I’m not on the side against Stalin. I was just curious as to what you thought of the accusations against him.
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 About Beria, Stalin didn't know about it untill WWII. When the Nazis were closing in to Moscow, one of Beria's men found a list with the names of women whom Beria raped or planned to rape. Beria ordered him to burn it. After Beria left, the man sent the list to Stalin who replied that "Send me everything this asshole (Beria) writes down." There's also the story of Beria visiting Stalin's dacha when only Svetlana was at home. When she phoned her father that Beria was there, Stalin told her to avoid Beria at all costs and leave the dacha immediately. Stalin also sent a death squad to the place with the order to kill Beria if he enters the same room Svetlana was in. Apparantly, Stalin also threatened to murder Beria personally if Beria even lays a finger on his daughter and even other members of the Politburo told their female relatives to avoid him. Not to mention, Beria while he was the head of the NKVD, he was also the head of the poision laboratories. One of his favourites was rat poision which causes a stroke when it gets into the human body. And what was the exact cause of Stalin's death? Who didn't order any doctors to help Stalin? Who was the one who imprisoned the doctors before Stalin's death?
Your facts are off, comrade. Gapon, the priest, was not a provocator, even though he was suspected at some point. He was a genuine supporter and, to an extent, an organizer of the worker's movement. The former royal family was in custody in Ekaterinburg. The house they were kept in would be destroyed in the 80s by orders from Yeltsin (yes, the Yeltsin).
Yes, Ekaterinburg, that's right. Regarding Gapon, _the History of the CPSU(B)_ says the following: "In 1904, prior to the Putilov strike, the police had used the services of an agent-provocateur, a priest by the name of Gapon, to form an organization of the workers known as the Assembly of Russian Factory Workers. This organization had its branches in all the districts of St. Petersburg. When the strike broke out the priest Gapon at the meetings of his society put forward a treacherous plan: all the workers were to gather on January 9 and, carrying church banners and portraits of the tsar, to march in peaceful procession to the Winter Palace and present a petition to the tsar stating their needs. The tsar would appear before the people, listen to them and satisfy their demands. Gapon undertook to assist the tsarist Okhrana by providing a pretext for firing on the workers and drowning the working-class movement in blood."
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 can't say I have my sources ready like you do. What I can say is that "history of cpsu" got a little bit dated. The more recent researchers don't usually agree on him being a provocator. But then again, you've provided your source and haven't, so I can't prove my claim at the moment.
@@kusokbik Of course it might be wrong, but I'd expect the researchers who wrote the book to have a reason for their statement. But the idea of Gapon being connected to the Okhrana has been widespread and the Right SRs even killed him as a result.
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 the researches were writing an official state propaganda piece in 1930s. Making a priest into a bad guy would certainly earn them some points. So there's some reasoning. By that time they'd had all the opportunity to comb through the archives and find the documents of Gapon being an agent. Unless we assume his relations with the Ohranka were strictly unofficial.
@@kusokbik two can play at this game - every source you produce i can call a state propaganda by the capitalist class. Unless you produce claims based on specific historical sources (i hope you actually know what a historical source is), all there is is your opinion. And you are definitely wrong about it being state propaganda by bolsheviks because Gapon working for okhranka conclusions were formed long before there was a a revolution of 1917 and was help by the most opposition parties, not just bolsheviks. You are also wrong about there not being proofs of his ties to okhranka - for example he had close ties to Zubatov.
the paris commune predates the kerensky government, i wouldn't concede that it was the most progressive of its time at all, even only including states that existed at the same time you had the chinese republic for instance, surely many more examples if you look for them, the video didn't make the claim specifically about europe, though even there you already had the portuguese republic for instance, i believe more as well if one were to look for it. either way, it's a purely ideological claim and even its concept of progress is questionable, i think i only wasted time on commenting about such a ridiculous thing because i'm high, but damn, that's jumping inside the trashcan of ideology entirely, they don't eat the trash, they ARE the trash, they are become ideology, destroyer of reason and thought
"poison gas" was a tear gas which is using commonly against different demonstrators nowdays... Also that tear gas was using in forests by the area, so the effectivity was about 0.
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 the gas is Chloropicrin Cl3CNO2 (Chloropicrin (PS) is an irritant with characteristics of a tear gas. Chloropicrin (PS) has an intensely irritating odor. Inhalation of 1 ppm causes eye irritation and can warn of exposure.) Even in russian Wikipedia written: "During the use of the anti-Bolshevik uprising in the Tambov province, three cases of using the AJO type with chloropicrin to smoke the rebels out of the forest were recorded, which did not lead to the consequences of the results" (google translated) source is russian wiki after that quoute, cant post more about that uprising ua-cam.com/video/kfF4psjNmfo/v-deo.html (in russian)
Bolsheviks had zero to do with the monarchy overthrow. They wanted it but it's the bourgeoisie who did it. There's a reason why the February revolution is called bourgeois.
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At first i thought it was just racist, and it is, but then there's a sort of poetry to them giving a cliche Slavic accent to the defender, and an American accent to the prosecutor of Lenin. Those who experienced life under him would defend him, while those in the "prosperous west" would not. Great vid as always
capital can be kinda ironic surprisingly often, just like "police socialism" i guess, watching this makes me feel like i can understand what communicating with aliens must be like, let's just say my vision of reality is kinda different from that of most people from north america, i guess some mexicans ought to be down for our beautiful URSAL lmao, or in less meme-speak, patria grande
Didn't expect to see you here, Tovarisch.
I love you and your boys at the Deprogram.
And it is indeed good that the one experiencing Lenin is the one defending him. They accidentally made their video better with that detail.
The prosecutor of Lenin in these Ted ex videos sounds like Ben Shapiro, excuse me, Shapino!
@@xeschire706 yeah lol, "its just basic economics" kind
@@xeschire706 *Ben Shapiccolo
To this day Russian anticommunists talk about an "unprecedented growth" that Russiam empire was going through in the decades before the WWI, talking about 100%, 200% growth. But when you look at it more closely that 100% growth ends up being something like going from 5 tractors countrywide in 1912 to 10 tractors countrywide in 1913. Absolutely meaningless numbers for a country of 130 million ppl
Not even the industrial center where capitalist classes emerged was a good place to live in.
Dude I heard one straight up claimed the Russian empire could defeat nazi Germany and the Soviet Union made it harder. What a cope.
That’s a huge increase in tractors
5 tractors to 10? Pack it up, I'm a neo-liberal now you've convinced me.
100 times fuck all is still fuck all.
Reminds me of Monty Python. "Apart from doubling life expectancy, ending illiteracy, homelessness and unemployment, giving healthcare, 8 hour work day, rights to own language and culture, ending slavery....... ...what have the Bolsheviks ever done for us?!"
Imagine the many years of bootlicking it took Cleese to ingratiate himself with the Tory establishment!
That feeling when a finnish guy knows the history of Russian-speaking territories better than the majority of their population.
History in general is abandoned, only a surface of it is known by the masses. Pop culture history just dominates the narratives than actual researches.
Here in Vietnam history is also abandoned too.
@@icantaimpg3d776
history is the most normie tier subject historiography is essentially left out.
@@kingpiye7060 Here too History is taken as a, meh whatever... i need a degree, course. It is sad honestly
are you insinuating that most Russian people don't miss the USSR?
@@Polinkazh no, I think this is a different question. Let's talk Belarus as an example. According to government 2020 sources its population is 9.3kk. 51% of them are 40+ years old. These are the people who saw the end of USSR when they where at least 8. (Or we can take 50+, people who where 18+ in 1991. That would be 37% of the population.) We can define them as people who might or might not miss USSR. Next, do they miss? I bet most of them do miss certain attributes, or their childhood, whatever. However, post soviet propaganda does work. I can discuss pretty specific things on the matter, if you'd like to. Education is heavy anti-soviet, pop culture is anti-soviet, journalism is anti-soviet etc. People who think they are in opposition to the mainstream are not in our (yours and mine) sense. If you'd like to know my opinion, I call Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan and similar "страны побежденного социализма" ("countries of defeated socialism") as an irony reference to "страны победившего социализма" ("countries of victorious socialism"). Countries where almost each and every person consider himself as a temporary indigent millionaire (временно бедствующие миллионеры). "Just one more bad year - next year I will definitely end on top!" "I will run my own successful business in 5 years if I'd like to! I just need to gather myself, I need to make my mind! One more year on this shitty job and that's it." And so on. Temporary indigent millionaires.
Going back to my point. I think that most of history taught and known is heavily anti-sovietly biased. That's what I've meant.
For having such a liberal bias, and despite the thick Russian accent, the pro-Lenin character was very well informed and made good counterarguments
The actual writer of the video is a communist. He's actually a very smart guy. The video was written to tell both sides of the argument but Alex is on the pro-lenin side.
I know everyone here is goign to disagree with me but I know the guy.
@@seanicus100 nah, i am not gonna disagree, this video is as good as Ted would allow to publish. Is he the same guy who did video on Che? Cause that one was really good - i never expected the Ted video in which the CIA is openly called out on overthrowing governments.
Liberals sadly lack much in the way of cognition when it comes to capitalism vs socialism. They think that gay, trans, lesbian, nb, women’s, black and other ethnic minority rights will actually be solved under capitalism. They are that stupid
Damn, I didn’t know Lenin ate a shot to the neck.
Can’t blame him for stomping the anarchists out after that.
Idk if Lenin was just super lucky or if he had really high constitution.
it certainly hastened his death
Little bit of both
Lenin did a lot of sport and kept a healthy body, even in prison.
it was organized by an English spy: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Reilly
No he wasn't lucky the bullet just liked him so much it didn't let him die
Long live Comrade Vladimir Lenin on overthrowing the criminal Tsar and abolished the most inhumane system that is capitalism, hats off to the Bolsheviks on defending the people's revolution from the capitalist hoards of the West crushing 14 invading armies!
He was a great statesman, a great writer, a great activist and a great man! 🚩☭🦬🏳️⚧️
Here I want to correct you. V. I. Lenin did not overthrow the tsar. The tsar fucked everyone up so much that the bourgeoisie overthrew him when the capitalists realized that demonstrations and strikes in Petrograd could not be stopped. So the bourgeoisie thought to cool the people's speeches.
I thought that feudalism was the dominant system of social relations within tsarist russia, not capitalism.
Bolsheviks didn't overthrow the Tsar, the overthrow liberals who overthrow the tsar. Learn the difference between February and October revolutions.
@@gustaveliasson5395 nah, they had plenty of remnants systems from feudalism, especially in superstructure, but it was pretty much capitalism at that point.
@@gustaveliasson5395 Since the sixties of the nineteenth century, the Westernization of the country took place in the Russian Empire: Peasant communities were razzoryali and stratified, there was an explosive growth of industry and banking. But the country was headed by large feudal lords closely allied with bankers and entrepreneurs.
12:57 The royal family was not in Ryazan, but in Yekaterinburg, the Urals, and after the uprising of the Czechoslovaks, the Whites moved towards the city in July 1918.
Ah, so Sverdlovsk. Yeah, that does ring a bell.
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 it became Sverdlovsk in 1924. Just a nitpick.
Sources about «Stalin's Cult of Personality» are Trotsky's writings and Khruschev's speech on secret meeting. These two are the main sources.
And both are absolutely worthless.
@@burtgrabmore2972 They are overhyped enough to be considered "unquestionable evidence" by "historians", sadly.
@@burtgrabmore2972 Yep, Lenin and Trotsky were incredibly cool and awesome AF!
Totalitarianism is nothing more than a buzzword - utterly devoid of value in its meaningless, thought terminating absurdity
It was created by liberal academia to equate the Soviets with the Nazis, to equate fascism with communism. Unfortunately, it's worked so well because you have people believing that the Italian Fascists and German Nazis were socialists and that their economies were socialist. A key point here is that the bourgeoisie want to conceal the fact that these economies were capitalist and that these factions were pro-capitalist, capitalist- and landlord-backed, and not just by those of their own countries, but by foreign capitalists, too, especially US ones. And this "scholarship" on "totalitarianism", I'm reasonably sure, originated in the US.
@@sentientnatalieIt actually originated in Austria with the remnants of the second internationale but it’s still a stupid concept used to exalt bourgeois values
@@jeebusthegreat8819 Interesting! What was their throught process for inventing such a term? We know that the 2nd Int was highly revisionist, socdems, though they weren't pro-capitalism back then were very reformist, like the demsocs of today, iirc, I hope I got that right.
@@sentientnatalie The thought process is called 'liberal idealism'.
@@mikemurray2027 Interesting! And they have the nerve to call us utopian lol.
The provisional government promised to convene but kept delaying the creation of the constituent assembly, which was to have established a constitution for Russia. Kerensky eventually was moving to impose a capitalist autocratic dictatorship as a "temporary measure" that always goes well.
As the Russian saying goes: "there is nothing more pernament then a temporary solution"
Social Democrats be like:
Hakim reacted to the Che video & it was hilarious for our Iraqi 🇮🇶 comrade to rip it apart 😆
The amount of Finnish sarcasm in this video is legendary 😂 was half expecting to hear you drop a Saatana or Perkele at some point. Keep it up comrade
As a Vietnamese, who is allowed to approach the REAL historical documents (not those revisionism from US or Western media), I would say that this Teded vid is GROSS-GUSTING!
History vs Lenin aka a western whitecentric imperialist analysis of a historical figure.
Even from the point of view of a liberal, i have no idea why they prefer feudalism and monarchy over socialism and the dotp.
They can't drop the fantasy of them becoming the "lucky ones". End of.
Scratch a lib
Lawyer who defended Lenin spoke that way because Lenin had an Irish tutor so when he spoke English it was with Irish or Scottish accent.
GLORY TO LENIN! GLORY TO STALIN! URA!
The "fines" you describe are still used by capitalist and petit-bourgeois alike against the very poorest workers (e.g. "illegals" and "temporary foreign workers", who have no recourse even when they know it's illegal).
Hiring illegal workers is also punishable but the degree of fines are vastly asymmetrical compared to what the workers would face should they pissed off the employers.
@@minhducnguyen9276 Here in so-called Canada, the workers are not illegal. Au contraire, the government effectively sells permits to capitalists to allow them to hire foreign workers who get no citizenship rights, and can be deported at the whim of their employer.
@@fun_ghoul German laws suddenly sound much more civilized than these. This is just another way to get indentured servants without calling it indentured servants.
@@minhducnguyen9276 Precisely.
thefinnishbolshevik never disappoints, best communist channel in youtube in my opinion, but hakim, yugopnik, luna oi and some others are also great
Slavery is not abolished in Amerikkka. It still exists legally for prisoners. Go check out the 13th Amendment to the slaver constitution.
It wasn't really abolished at all. Many things in capitalism caome from slave labor, like cocoa beans and many other cash crops. They just pushed most of it out of "developed" countries.
@@nonono4160 You're talking about wage slavery, which is also bad, but different. I mean the OG kind: Work for no money, on pain of violence up to and including death.
@@fun_ghoul no, actual slavery. I know what i am talking about. You can google some of it with key words like "Nestle child adbuction slave labor cocoa plantations" or something like that.
Also it's definitely not "OG kind", since slavery existed since way back and never really vanished, wherever under feudalism or capitalism, though the economic relations around it did change often changing the nature of said slavery too. But the "labor under force (thread of violence or death) performed by captive person" stayed more or less the same. You can read "Blood and Money" by McNally if you want to go deeper into the topic.
@@nonono4160 Slavery did change, though. The distinguishing feature of "New World" enslavement of Africans was that they were bought and sold as property, which was a capitalist innovation compared to feudal slavery, which was usually because a people-group lost a war. Good call on the current slavery, though.
@@fun_ghoul yeah, economic formation did affect forms that slavery took significantly.
The more i study history and capitalism specifically the more i have moments like going from "capitalism is pretty bad" to "oh, it's actually way worse".
I think it's funny that the accent difference gives the subtle implication that the "history" in the "history v. Lenin" is the perspective of the United States
Are there still normal marxists in Finland? I am russian communist, pleasantly surprised. I subscribe.
That one lawyer is literally the human representation of the uh ackshually emoji 🤓
Good to see you here, Comrade!
😂😂😂😂
His "trial" format is especially annoying to me because it reminds me of Igor Talkov's concerts where he had his own "trials" against Soviet Union while making fun of Internationale and Whirlwinds of Danger in the process.
I became a communist and later a Marxist, starting with this very video. When I didn't know the history, the nuances, and argued with people, but because I often lost, I began to correct the theses, and then became an advocate of Lenin and later Stalin. Information has to be learned in large quantities to acquire quality. And such a superficial presentation as Ted's simply makes the masses misunderstand, and only those who will continue studying the half-truths are able to understand them. Unfortunately most people do not have time for this. And the truth will be in the public domain only after the socialist revolution around the world.
To uphold Stalin is to uphold all future workers revolutions. It's not easy it's actually quite soul crushing at times but it has to be done.
How could you be a communist but not a marxist? You were an utopist communist?
@@ФедяКрюков-в6ь ты же на русском говоришь? Коммунистом был в смысле не знающим теорию, диалектику, материализм и политэкономию. Да можно это назвать утопическим коммунистом, я же назвал бы это скорее сочувствующий коммунистическим или социалистическим идеям. С нотками реакционерства и культами личностей революции.
@@АсанАли-у2н Stalin literally wrote books on those topics, and fought AGAINST the cult of personality.
I have to absolutely agree on that godawful fake "Russian" accent!! It's cringeworthy, but the whole video is. Good response to it by your good self!
Just discovered you, this is great stuff man!
Hi, please do book recommendations especially for learning history. It’s too difficult for me (same as anyone) to assess credibility and sort out scientific facts and bullshit
He has few episodes on book recommendations, you can find them in playlists on his channel
Great video, comrade!
Great video as always! Yeah, these kinds of videos (the kind you responded to here) can be really annoying. Watching them with your commentary (or similar) is the only way I'd really *want* to watch them, heh.
Another video, another banger.
The Finnish Bolshevik never disappoints, what a channel, congratulations comrade.
When americans call the soviet union a dictatorship but the cia has a literal document that says that Stalin was not a dictator
1. Even in Stalin's time there was collective leadership. The Western idea of a dictator within the communist setup is exaggerated. Misunderstandings on that subject are caused by lack of comprehension of the real nature and organization of the communist power structure. Stalin, although holding wide powers, was merely the captain of a team and it seems obvious that Khrushchev will be the new captain. However, it does not appear that any of the present leaders will rise to the stature ofLennin and Stalin, so that it will be safer to assume that developments in Moscow will be along the lines of what is called collective leadership, unless western policies force the soviets to streamline their power oganization. The pressent situation is the most favorable from the point of view of upsetting the communist dictatorship since the death of Stalin. That's what the cia document say about the so called Soviet dictairship!
I'm here for the finnbol waluigi impression
19:24 "Country woman, participate in the vital establishment of the country and abolish the illiteracy"
Will you react to Ted-Ed’s video on East Germany?
Maybe ;)
I think they use that trial format for the reason that people hear the opinions of both sides, both of Lenin enjoyers and Lenin dislikers
My friend, I’d like to add something at 8:14 or so. The specific reason the Bolsheviks didn’t attempt to seize state power during that July, is because they didn’t have the majority of the Moscow and Petrograd soviets yet. In August, when the Soviets held their next elections, the Bolsheviks had won the majority of both. In the first paragraph of “The Bolsheviks Must Assume State Power,” (written immediately after the October Petrograd uprising), he points out to the Bolsheviks that because they didn’t win the majority of the Moscow and Petrograd soviets in April, they didn’t have the hegemony to assume state power in the July uprising, but now that they had won the majority in august, it was time to fulfill the slogan they campaigned on when they won the soviets, “All Power to the Soviets.”
Great Video,a little problem,Basarabia was a part of Romania ,the russian took it forcefully and the the Romanians took it back when they had the chance
In Belgium they also finde us when we made a mistake in the factory,s fuck capitalism man my poor people.
Excellent video comrade.
Hey Finnish. I have a couple questions:
1. Can you please give me some pro-Stalin sources for Holodomor and 5 Year Plans?
2. Recommended works from Stalin?
1. Blood Lies - Grover Furr
Stalin: Waiting For The Truth - also Grover Furr
2. Foundations of Leninism by Stalin
1. read another view of stalin by ludo martens, stalin: a critique of a black legend by domenco lasurdo
(P.S. another view of stalin is the easiest book to read abt stalin)
@@ABPHistory this 👆
1. Here is a short blog post:
mltheory.wordpress.com/2020/12/24/the-holodomor-explained/
Also Blood lies, and "Fraud, famine and Fascism" ua-cam.com/video/58ALYrrStXQ/v-deo.html
Also this
mltheory.wordpress.com/2016/08/07/the-results-of-the-1st-2nd-soviet-five-year-plans-soviet-industrial-revolution/
2.
-"Foundations of Leninism" www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1924/foundations-leninism/index.htm
-"Dialectical and historical materialism" www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm
-"Marxism and the national question" www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03.htm
-Problems of Leninism www.marx2mao.com/Stalin/POLtc.html
-On the opposition www.marx2mao.com/Stalin/OTOtc.html
@@ABPHistory *domenico losurdo
His other books are pretty good too. "Liberalism. A counter history" is my favorite.
What do you think of Georgy Malenkov and how he was the Soviet leader for less than a year?
Malenkov was a right-wing opportunist or revisionist. This will become clear when I talk about de-stalinization in Hungary.
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404
Not to mention, he also told the guards not to call a doctor when Stalin suffered a stroke.
Great video. Learnead so much.
18:23 you definitely should, the kronstadt video was fire
Can you make a video on Makhno? Any books you'd recommend?
Some links on your Fin Winter War video are missing!
I have a video about Makhno here, but I should make a new better one ua-cam.com/play/PLbnLysSug0vRMyRlmgC7MrrsH9-yreGeI.html
13:08 pretty sure it was yekaterinburg
yes, my bad
The skinny lawyer sounds an awful lot like Ben Shabibo! 😂
always great to see you post tavarish
you probably already heard of TIK, but if you haven't he's a ww2 youtuber rightwing """""""""""""""historian""""""""""""""" who's recent bs regarding Hitler being a socialist has gained a lot of traction online.
In general it seems that this particular rhetoric is resurfacing everywhere and his pseudo science approach to analyzing history is only making it worse.
I’ve seen that too and it’s so much disappointing he does pretty good analyzing battles though but his Hitler was a socialist opinion is a sigh
I hope he’s able to realign his view in the future and perhaps rethink this position
@@johay899 I doubt he ever will, he's a liberal ideologue to the core and from my understanding of him, his interests align too much with the status quo.
his analysis of hitler as a socialist really highlights how objectivity is conditional in the world view of liberals and fascists, none the less, his bullshit just promotes more "soft" conservatism disguised as "centrism" which just feeds more disgruntled and impressionable young "men" into going down the online fascist pipeline.
@@bob-lk5et TIK's first such video was trolled so hard in the comments that he made the unhinged 5 hour raga follow-up. I had a comment with a couple thousand likes, but it suddenly disappeared. Truth hurts, I guess. 🤣
@@johay899 Nah. It's paid programming.
The socialist economy is amazing - people are constantly required to work there.
Hey FinBol, you should react to Simple History's video about the Holomodor.
With citations too. The more the better to shut the fuck up right-wing reactionaries.
Something similar to this by Princeton professor and conservative Stephen Kotkin, perhaps America's leading expert on Stalin, as well as a vocal critic, who explained on episode 184 of The American Interest podcast that although he thinks Stalin has blood on his hands for the famine, he doesn't even consider the famine to be intentional.
"I'm an empirical person. Today, in our country, it's more important than ever to have facts and to line up your facts and to substantiate, to document. You can't just argue what you want to be true, you have to argue on the basis of evidence. What's the evidence we have on this question of the intentionality or not of the famine of 1931-33?
"We have an unbelievable number of documents showing Stalin committing intentional murder, with the Great Terror, as you alluded to earlier, and with other episodes. He preserved these documents-he would not try to clean up his image internally-and these documents are very damning. There is no shortage of documentation when Stalin committed intentional murder.
"However, there is no documentation showing that he intended to starve Ukraine, or that he intended to starve the peasants.
"Ask yourself, why are there no documents showing intentional murder or genocide of these people when we have those documents for all the other episodes?
"...the intentionality question is completely undermined by the documents on the record." - from the podcast The American Interest, Episode 184: Stephen Kotkin on Stalin. Richard Aldous speaks with Stephen Kotkin about his book, Stalin: Waiting for Hitler, 1929-1941.
@@seanpol9863 Keyword: "unbelievable"
@@fun_ghoul And one of the main reasons we are able to understand so much about the atrocities of certain countries, not just the USSR, is because of the amount of archives historians are able to rescue (the Soviet archives were released shortly after the dissolution of the USSR, at the end of 1991 for those who are not aware). Also, historians don't just blindly parrot what the archives say, historians are able to and willing to expand on them and find places where a government might be lying or underestimating, but this doesn't change the fact that the archives are fundamentally important.
Hey! Slightly off top. Do you have good recommendations on books or blogs about modern Finland?
In Russia many people believe that Finland is “best place, why they can build socialism, while we build authoritarian shit???”
Thanks for video
Book recommendations on the Russian civil war?
Great analysis, comrade. :) Yeah, these videos are basically Jubilee types playing at being historians.
Thank-you for this comrade, very informative.
Do you have any recomended reading for a true history of the ussr?
Short History of the USSR by A. V. Shestakov (ed.)
communismarchive2.files.wordpress.com/2022/11/1938_a_short_history_of_the_ussr_textbook_for_3-4th_classes.pdf
A History of the USSR by A. M. Pankratova (ed.) part 1
communismarchive2.files.wordpress.com/2022/11/history_of_the_ussr_part1.pdf
part 2
communismarchive2.files.wordpress.com/2022/11/history_of_the_ussr_part2.pdf
part 3
communismarchive2.files.wordpress.com/2022/11/history_of_the_ussr_part3.pdf
The History of the civil war in the USSR
part 1
communismarchive2.files.wordpress.com/2022/11/1936_the_civil_war_in_the_ussr_volume1.pdf
part 2
communismarchive2.files.wordpress.com/2022/11/1946_the_civil_war_in_the_ussr_volume2.pdf
The History of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (Bolsheviks) - Short Course ua-cam.com/video/_Lygu-El7U0/v-deo.html
Another View of Stalin by Ludo Martens
docs.google.com/gview?url=mltheory.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/another-view-of-stalin1.pdf&embedded=true&embedded=true
You can find a lot more here
mltheory.wordpress.com/the-real-history-of-the-soviet-union/
New sub! Thank you for this video!
this ussr seems pretty nice, I hope nothing bad happens to it
13:34. But I had heard that Leon Trotsky wrote in his diary in 1935 that he was told by Sverdlov that Lenin had ordered the killings? I guess the conclusion to take from this is that, although we take value from Lenin's theories, we should not try to model ourselves after him ethically or defending executing children simply because he thought it was ok.
He also had areas where he had a lack in perspective, such as him utterly "dunking" on religion, when it was mostly a dunk on Christianity, and completely missed Islam, possibly due to him never being experienced with it.
@@Planet.Xplor3r Oh sorry, are you talking about Lenin and his views on religion?
@@FilthyTrot Yea, I guess. Lenin was intelligent, and his writings on religion were very good in regards to Christianity, but not on Islam.
Correction: Fanny Kaplan was a Right SR
I’ve literally never trusted anyone that uses the word “rabble rouser” unironically.
3:10 im pretty sure not only just fines were seen as normal, if you gave any lip in response, or tried to quit, you could receive a vicious beating. like, history of this period is where we get the "rule of thumb" which limits the size of a stick you can beat your wife with. at this point in time, it wasnt really illegal to kick the shit out of a kid if they dropped a chunk of coal in the wrong spot lol
And if you happened to kill one or two, nothing a small bribe wouldn't fix.
@@burtgrabmore2972 indeed. To work was to effectively risk your life or health even in alot of the mundane positions theyd hire people for. If the foreman broke your hand when "disciplining" theyd just replace you.
Andre Fursov speaks towards your point regarding the disintegration of Russia if certain actors gained state control. He posits that the "deep nationalist faction" saw in and understood that the socialist were right, regarding the promotion of Russia industrial development vis a vis the whites. Something like that.
Regardless, red salute!
Do you have any book recommendations or sources that are revolutionary or marxist analyses of the world wars? i think you would do a great job at a video series on the topic!!
By the way, not sure about your statement on local languages throughout the Soviet Union. My wife is from Sakha Republic and there they do not even have Sakha language being taught at schools in Yakutsk, even less in the Universities where Russian is the sole language. Not sure if it was different during the Soviet period but I don't believe it was the case. As far as I know, there are no constitutional provision that places national languages on the same level of Russian during the Soviet time, but looking forward for more info on that.
See articles 40, 110, 121 of the 1936 Soviet constitution
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 Article 40 says: Laws passed by the Supreme Soviet of the U.S.S.R. are published in the languages of the Union Republics over the signatures of the President and Secretary of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the U.S.S.R.
Which are those languages? And simply to publish legislation is very far from equal status. Article 110 is the same for judicial proceedings.
Finally, article 121 does not grant for native language teaching at University level, it states: by instruction in schools being conducted in the native Ianguage (I assume that schools here are not equated to Universities and professional schools). Let's assume that this constitutional article does cover higher education. We have to know if in practice, the authorities were applying or not this provision. Returning to the Sakha example, if University was bilingual, this would be kept (at least partially) today, which is not the case. A more historical example, the Germans from the Volga who were deported to Kazakhstan never regained their language status back. Even the Soviet propaganda material is very slavic-centered (a mere analysis of the soviet posters of the time will show that) so I would not have such a rosy image of the politics of nationalities in the Soviet Union, even if we agree that it was much better then the British or the French from both legal and practical perspectives.
@@MK-jc6us
I do not know if university education existed in every small language. However, the constitution does mention education and official business in republic languages at least. Before the USSR that wasn't the case. I know that for example, Finnish was used in Karelo-Finnish ssr alongside Russian and Karelian. Certainly the same was the case in bigger Union Republics too.
The volga Germans are clearly an exception.
It WAS different in soviet period. Man, at least od some research.
Ты серьезно смотришь на современную капиталистическую Россию и судишь по ней СССР?
@@nonono4160 You didn't answer to the question. First, I never said "it was the same now and then". I just disputed the rosy idea that local languages enjoyed equal status (both legally and in practice despite some legal basis that was an advancement). Second, I agree that Soviet model was a clear improvement when compared to language mono-systems like in France or in the UK. FinnishBolshevik said that the German case (Germans from Saratov mainly) was an exception. About Sakha language, my question is still unanswered, it was used in higher education during the Soviet period, yes or no? FinnishBolshevik says it was too small to count. So I wonder how other "bigger" languages were used in the educational system. In Central Asia it seems that a mix of technical but also practical and political considerations were taken (which is normal). Of course, I don't expect for any purist or excellent outcome of the language changes decided during the 20's and the 30's. I just refuse any romantic view of all languages being treated in a balanced manner, devoid of all prejudice and bias. It is also important to note that Soviet Union during the revolutionary period had a real need to flirt with nationalist demands (which included language-related) while after the 50's this need was lesser.
The russian voice is much better than the high pitched US lawer.
I always assumed that both the defence and prosecutor are made to not be likeable so factual evidence highlighted more. The prosecutor is using English language in a British way but the voice actor is clearly English, always annoyed me.
That last bit doesn't make sense. No such thing as a British accent.
@@JohnKobaRuddy I wonder if Sam says "English" in place of "American", which would be especially confusing...
1:16 This is my favorite part!
Tsar was dropped by bourgeoisie with right wings army support - February revolution. Not by Bolsheviks... Bolsheviks (army sailors, workers, and solders) dropped bourgeoisie temporary government in October, tsar was out for a long time.
great video!did you saw tik latest video tho?is about ussr and ww2
I guess he's gettin' that Ukronazi money now...
Do you have some sources about how stalin behaved on personality cult?
I have this video
ua-cam.com/video/U317xVjMYes/v-deo.html
and this blog post
mltheory.wordpress.com/2014/06/24/stalin-on-the-cult-of-personality/
There's a lot more stuff too, but I'd need to go through my notes to find it.
This guy sounds exactly like the guy in the grey suit
The accents and the art style are so silly its hard to even take this seriously as anti-communist propaganda
What is the source of Kerensky and Kornilov collaborating
wasn't kornilov forced by kerensky's increasing paranoia towards the army to attempt a coup d'etat?
I think UA-cam is trying to tell ( or ask) me something…
Thanks for making this video.
I fucking love your titles when you do react videos lmao
I was not even aware of the existence of TedEds...this is an official new crap being released by the Ted group? Their neo-evangelist style around tech and entrepreneurship are stupid enough in the original format, no need to create spin-offs.
12:20 Basarabia is Romania's rightful territory
why?
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 The Russian Empire annexed it in 1812 with the Treaty of Bucharest. We just took the opportunity to get it back. And failed. And still do. Many Romanians were deported from those regions by the Soviet leadership. I am a socialist btw.
Algorithm.
@TheFinnishBolshevik care to share some more specific docs on those USSR attempts to define an aggressive country and western obstructions of those efforts?
I love your stuff friend
Please please please talk about Mike Duncans Revolutions podcast's coverage of the Russian Revolution.
30:19 this would be a dope subject for a video
I bloody hate ted ed
We need to make a RED Ed.
@@fun_ghoul That's a really good idea. Explaining Marxist concepts and history through visuals in a way a kid could understand.
Well, that one is actually a decent video (considering where it comes from). Obviously it's not super communist but the author intentionally made the "opposition" to communist talking points have really bad and stupid arguments (just like in realf life, lol). I don't think it would get published at all if he got full blown commie.
Their video on Che is even better, they actually call out CIA on making violent coup. Which is a lot more than i usually expect from liberal media.
@@nonono4160 They use crumbs of truth to inoculate the audience into thinking it's "fair and balanced". That's worse than overt porky propaganda.
It's like UA-cam version of Wikipedia.
i saw a comment you made under some ML's blog post about how the gulag archipelago is made up earlier today, and now i find your youtube channel. wacky, i suppose?
which blog was it?
Fines for being late or making any minor mistake is current russian practice.
I know Stalin is smeared and lied about but what should I make of his relationship to Beria and Lysenko? We are told Beria committed horrible crimes and Stalin allowed this to take place and was completely aware or his actions. Also, it is said that Lysenko was held up by Stalin which is what caused the famine. Are these just more Western lies and do you have any sources discussing these issues specially?
Most false persecutions was done by Yezhov and he was shot for it
1. If Beria committed crimes and Stalin knew about it, why would Stalin allow it?
2. There has never been any evidence that Lysenko's ideas diminished farm yields (even anti-Lysenko authors such as Lewontin have stated that). Furthermore, Lysenko only achieved any significant power in 1935, while the famine happened in 1932-33.
Who has told us that Beria and Lysenko 'committed horrible crimes'? Is it the same people whose myths are debunked in this and other videos by the FinnishBolshevik? I think so.
It is possible they did commit crimes, but we need to see evidence from reliable sources and trustworthy reporters.
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 Thank you for the reply! I’m not on the side against Stalin. I was just curious as to what you thought of the accusations against him.
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404
About Beria, Stalin didn't know about it untill WWII.
When the Nazis were closing in to Moscow, one of Beria's men found a list with the names of women whom Beria raped or planned to rape. Beria ordered him to burn it. After Beria left, the man sent the list to Stalin who replied that "Send me everything this asshole (Beria) writes down."
There's also the story of Beria visiting Stalin's dacha when only Svetlana was at home. When she phoned her father that Beria was there, Stalin told her to avoid Beria at all costs and leave the dacha immediately. Stalin also sent a death squad to the place with the order to kill Beria if he enters the same room Svetlana was in. Apparantly, Stalin also threatened to murder Beria personally if Beria even lays a finger on his daughter and even other members of the Politburo told their female relatives to avoid him.
Not to mention, Beria while he was the head of the NKVD, he was also the head of the poision laboratories. One of his favourites was rat poision which causes a stroke when it gets into the human body.
And what was the exact cause of Stalin's death? Who didn't order any doctors to help Stalin? Who was the one who imprisoned the doctors before Stalin's death?
Haha. Alex Gendler was my downstairs neighbor in Bushwick Brooklyn. True story. Haven't texted him since 2021.
No wonder you eat pills. Ouf.
@@fun_ghoul Actually it's the opposite of "inkdrinker," a ytmnd user I knew in 2008. Nothing to do with drugs or using them.
@@pilleater That's even worse. Stay strong, comrade.
Good thing you never looked at the comment section
The "stupid" videos are really great!
I'm not smart enough to write a funny comment so here's just 1 for the algorithm.
You're smart enough to know that humour is tough. That's smarter than I usually am! ✊🛠️🚩
Your facts are off, comrade. Gapon, the priest, was not a provocator, even though he was suspected at some point. He was a genuine supporter and, to an extent, an organizer of the worker's movement.
The former royal family was in custody in Ekaterinburg. The house they were kept in would be destroyed in the 80s by orders from Yeltsin (yes, the Yeltsin).
Yes, Ekaterinburg, that's right. Regarding Gapon, _the History of the CPSU(B)_ says the following:
"In 1904, prior to the Putilov strike, the police had used the services of an agent-provocateur, a priest by the name of Gapon, to form an organization of the workers known as the Assembly of Russian Factory Workers. This organization had its branches in all the districts of St. Petersburg. When the strike broke out the priest Gapon at the meetings of his society put forward a treacherous plan: all the workers were to gather on January 9 and, carrying church banners and portraits of the tsar, to march in peaceful procession to the Winter Palace and present a petition to the tsar stating their needs. The tsar would appear before the people, listen to them and satisfy their demands. Gapon undertook to assist the tsarist Okhrana by providing a pretext for firing on the workers and drowning the working-class movement in blood."
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 can't say I have my sources ready like you do. What I can say is that "history of cpsu" got a little bit dated. The more recent researchers don't usually agree on him being a provocator. But then again, you've provided your source and haven't, so I can't prove my claim at the moment.
@@kusokbik Of course it might be wrong, but I'd expect the researchers who wrote the book to have a reason for their statement. But the idea of Gapon being connected to the Okhrana has been widespread and the Right SRs even killed him as a result.
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 the researches were writing an official state propaganda piece in 1930s. Making a priest into a bad guy would certainly earn them some points. So there's some reasoning. By that time they'd had all the opportunity to comb through the archives and find the documents of Gapon being an agent. Unless we assume his relations with the Ohranka were strictly unofficial.
@@kusokbik two can play at this game - every source you produce i can call a state propaganda by the capitalist class. Unless you produce claims based on specific historical sources (i hope you actually know what a historical source is), all there is is your opinion. And you are definitely wrong about it being state propaganda by bolsheviks because Gapon working for okhranka conclusions were formed long before there was a a revolution of 1917 and was help by the most opposition parties, not just bolsheviks. You are also wrong about there not being proofs of his ties to okhranka - for example he had close ties to Zubatov.
I suppose Gulags are normal.
the paris commune predates the kerensky government, i wouldn't concede that it was the most progressive of its time at all, even only including states that existed at the same time you had the chinese republic for instance, surely many more examples if you look for them, the video didn't make the claim specifically about europe, though even there you already had the portuguese republic for instance, i believe more as well if one were to look for it. either way, it's a purely ideological claim and even its concept of progress is questionable, i think i only wasted time on commenting about such a ridiculous thing because i'm high, but damn, that's jumping inside the trashcan of ideology entirely, they don't eat the trash, they ARE the trash, they are become ideology, destroyer of reason and thought
I love your voice ❤
Thank you for the video.
Mh... Dyadya Vova.
"poison gas" was a tear gas which is using commonly against different demonstrators nowdays... Also that tear gas was using in forests by the area, so the effectivity was about 0.
do you have a source for that?
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 i cant post answer with links
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 the gas is Chloropicrin Cl3CNO2 (Chloropicrin (PS) is an irritant with characteristics of a tear gas. Chloropicrin (PS) has an intensely irritating odor. Inhalation of 1 ppm causes eye irritation and can warn of exposure.)
Even in russian Wikipedia written:
"During the use of the anti-Bolshevik uprising in the Tambov province, three cases of using the AJO type with chloropicrin to smoke the rebels out of the forest were recorded, which did not lead to the consequences of the results" (google translated)
source is russian wiki after that quoute, cant post
more about that uprising ua-cam.com/video/kfF4psjNmfo/v-deo.html (in russian)
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 Chloropicrin wiki page in russian version
@@commenterwebsite1695 thanks
Bolsheviks had zero to do with the monarchy overthrow. They wanted it but it's the bourgeoisie who did it. There's a reason why the February revolution is called bourgeois.