Queens Who Had The Most Children
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Happy mother’s day! If you think the kids in your family are a lot to handle, imagine having over a dozen of them! That was the reality for the royal women in today’s video. The primary expectation of Queens and other well born women of the past was to have as many children as possible to secure their husband’s dynasty and bare a few spares to be used in advantageous political marriages. Their fertility was their life. They were married early and caught on a treadmill of pregnancy, birth, handing their babies over to be raised by wet-nurses and tutors, and hoping back into bed to conceive again as soon as possible. Surely they looked forward to the relief of menopause. Here are 9 Queens and Empresses who bore an extraordinary number of children:
Mumtaz Mahal, Mughal Empress Consort - 14 Children
Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Queen Consort of Great Britain & Ireland - 15 Children
Anna Jagellonica, Queen Consort of Germany, Bohemia & Hungary - 15 Children
Eleanor of Castile, Queen Consort of England - 16 Children
Keran, Queen Consort of Armenia - 16 Children
Maria Theresa, Holy Roman Empress - 16 Children
Maria Carolina of Austria, Queen Consort of Naples and Sicily - 17 Children
Anne, Queen of Great Britain - 18 Children
Darejan Dadiani, Queen Consort of Georgia - 23 Children
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This video makes me so gratefull that I have the right to decide to not have any kids, never mind 23!
Ditto!😌
That’s quickly slipping away as we speak js
I hate children
Not if you’re in America!!!!🤬
Yes birth control is a great thing if you don’t want any or a lot.
The woman who committed herself to a nunnery after 14 full term pregnancies: 😳 Completely understandable. ❤M
I suppose they didn't really have mental heath facilities in those days, so next best thing ...
Nunnery- no men allowed, please do not touch me I have already had 14 babies!!
Some of the babies she lost were born or stillborn prematurely
Are you talking about Mumtaz Mahal?
@@srijeetasikder2678 I am talking about Queen Anne
Charlotte making sure her daughters won’t have to go through the burden of being “bred” is truly remarkable considering so many people would wed their children for socio/eco gain
Yeah. Queen Charlotte is a very sweet and progressive mother. I might not necessarily agree with her methods, but she was certainly ahead of her time. I wish more mothers then and now would encourage their daughters their worth isn't just based on beauty and fertility. ❤️
The only issue is that she also barred her daughters from marrying the men they loved, even if it wasn’t a politically advantageous marriage, and was a genuine love-match with a lower ranking man.
While I understand Charlotte didn’t want them to spit out 15 children like herself, I don’t understand why she wouldn’t want them to be happy with a person who loved them for THEM not for the political gain they could grant them
@@laurakastrup yes agreed! I do know that the mentality was very different back then on marrying outside of your class, so that is probably what lead her to prevent that as well. If her daughters weren’t going to be married to upper class men than they certainly weren’t gonna be married to lower class men. I do still think she had the right idea but executed it too strictly but for her time it was quite progressive.
Right?? She really must have been traumatized and i don’t blame her!
Must have been awful for the daughters, restricted from the ability to become mothers by a mother blessed with many loving children.
It sure was progressive, but was it good. We are the most progressive ever now, and we've never been more lonely and depressed.
If you listen carefully; you can hear Henry VIII sobbing over all these legitimate sons that weren’t his 😂
I consider it among the greatest karmic triumphs in history that his daughter was the one to become one of the most effective monarchs in history.
@@alietheartist734 SAME!!! 😁
@@alietheartist734 Catherine Parr was a womans rights advocate long before the word existed, as she convinced Hernry to also have his daughters considered eligable heirs.
@@schneeroseful Parr was extremely underrated IMO. Like Katherine Howard, she was already in love with someone else when she married King Henry but was smart enough to wait for him to die before going back to her lover.
@@alietheartist734 Not only did all of King Henry's male children die young, neither of his daughters gave him any grandchildren to continue his line. Both Mary and Elizabeth even neglected to maintain Henry's grave after he died.
Stating my genealogical searches again, my paternal great-great-grandmother, Elizabeth, gave birth to 17 children, including consecutive sets of twins. 13 survived to adulthood. How she managed to survive the pregnancies and live to be 74 is quite amazing.
Honestly if you live past the first 8 children you’re probably made of iron stuff. At that point it’s pretty clear childbirth ain’t gonna kill you. Death probably had to take Elizabeth in her sleep cause otherwise she would have beat his ass
Life finds a way
What was the age gap between 1st to the last?
@@D38401 She was 21 with her first, and 48 with the last.
My grandmother was the 13th of 14 children, all of whom survived to adulthood. (Good Irish Catholics, so no birth control etc.) Her brother Francis was killed in the Great War, but the others all lived fairly normal lives. She was the last to pass, living into her 80s.
It breaks my heart what Anne went through one is unbelievably cruel but to lose 17 babies! Then your 11 year old child to die. I can’t even begin to imagine how she felt
I have pcos & have wanted to be a mom ever since I was a kid so I can empathize with Anne
@@liz2saintvideos Well u can still become a mom. Only it won't be easy but u will get the best deal! Sometimes baby's come from your belly, and sometimes from the hearth.
As a mother who gave birth too 6 healthy kids. But one came from my I hearts.. I can tell u: It beats every pregnancy!!! Number 7 we adopted, born during a war what killed the baby's familie. I can't explain the kind of love you get, it is very special!
My dad has that same blood disease, antiphospholipid syndrome and I’m infertile.
I feel lucky that, for one, my dad is able to live a fairly normal life with a normal life span despite his illness, and that medical treatments have advanced so that a lot of us with infertility are able to have at least one child.
🌸 same and in those days there was no mental therapy of any kind, you had to suck it up and continue with life as best as you can with head held high. These women, not just on video, but from the past eras are pure inspirational and very strong both physically and mentally
@@liz2saintvideos Same, I pray someday we will have a chance to be mothers.
Queen Charlotte sounds so cool... Allowing her daughters to have the life she never could, while also just being an amazing and selfless mother at that time...She was before her time 😢
You're absolutely right. Queen Charlotte is a very sweet and progressive mother. I might not necessarily agree with her methods, but she was certainly ahead of her time. I wish more mothers then and now would encourage their daughters their worth isn't just based on beauty and fertility. ❤️
she refused to let them marry, even when they fell in love? You admire that? Just so she could have companionship?
@@Chuck0856prove that they fell in love? Royal marriages were mainly political.
Oh man, hearing about Eleanor of Castile was just heartbreaking. I can't imagine how painful, traumatic and confusing it would be to give birth at THIRTEEN and lose your baby
It happens everyday in the world today.
13yos back then were tougher and more mature. Modern people by comparison are quite weak physically and mentally.
@Homeward Bound Yes it does!
Stop being so ignorant
@@hardtogetnamehere exactly...Thank you,for bringing that up😔
It's truly sad. She was just a child. I have given birth to 8 kids with 7 living kids. I lost my youngest daughter at age 29. She would be almost 14 had she lived & headed to the 8th grade. Thank God for my youngest child- my almost 11 year old son who is headed to the 5th grade...
Wow, poor Anne. It's a wonder she didn't go mad from losing all her children so tragically. 😥
You must realize the bond between these queens and their children is not like modern day parents. Their children were brought up by wet nurses, governesses, tutors and probably saw their parents only once in a while. Kings and Queens were far too occupied with matters of state and the court to see their children every day.
I wouldn't have blamed Queen Anne if she did go mad from losing all her children sadly. I certainly would have. (╥﹏╥)
She did, a little bit, some say...
She had a lot of bunny rabbits as a replacement.
The record for most children born to one woman in my family tree is held by my fourth great grandmother on my Dad’s side, who gave birth to 26 children (including two sets of twins), all but three of whom lived to adulthood. I also feel very fortunate to have the option to have as many or as few children as I want.
Was your great grandmother's name marilouise?
I would NEVER let a man do that to me .
@@michellejackson1202 neither would I. I guess the woman was extremely fertile.
@@ItsLunaRegina you can’t leave him?
@@ItsLunaRegina I would definitely at least sit him down and talk to him, if you truly don't want to leave him. Sabotaging birth control is pretty messed up
why did the one about queen anne get me so much? the thought of losing ALL of your children would be absolutely DEVASTATING
😢😢
I don't think Queen Charlotte would be considered "biracial" since her latest-known black ancestor was 13 generations back.
I believe is more 15 generations back. 🐝
Not that it’s right but I think the reason they now call her biracial is because she had biracial characteristics… she’s never been called that until recently and I think the only reason the royal family finally “admitted it” was the pressure to do so.. people thought they were trying to hide the fact she was half black but in reality her African ancestors were so far back she’s not really biracial
My african DNA goes back 12 generations. No way could I call myself biracial.
kind of reminds me of the irish girl saying she was 0,1 jamaican, and her having the darkest fake-tan ever to prove her point. LoL
also, a lot of the "moors" were not hardly dark at all. Especially those who had been in spain for several hundred years.
The Taj Mahal is still one of the most outstanding examples of love to me.
Don’t forget about the hanging gardens of Babylon
Ditto. 😌I’d love to see it one day.😌
He was going to build an identical black one across the river but it was never done.
@@satcher2001 yes, for himself. But his son didn’t let him complete that, because he was wasting money on these monuments too much.
That’s not an example of love but cruelty. That king chopped the hands of 20000 workers who built that so that they cannot replicate. The king is a psycho
Could we please have a video on Queen Keran and her children? I can’t imagine having so many children and most of them dying from murder!
Yes I agree! I think she would be fascinating to learn about. Seems there was a bunch of intrigue. Also why did she become a nun ? Has her husband passed away or was that the normal thing to go to a convent. I thought that’s where many were sent as punishment.
Absolutely!! Can't imagine how terrible it would have been for them ..
@@NanaD-ve9tt it was normal in the past that widows go to a nunnery. It was considered something a ‘decent’ woman would do, rather than remarry.
@@Lumosnight 😊 Thank you!
@@NanaD-ve9tt It would be funny if she became a nun while her husband was still alive (which happened, but rarely). Like "OK, my work here is REALLY done ... peace out!"
I think that my uterus just exited my body and ran away in terror.
My uterus just walked out of my pelvis
My grandmother had 12 children! All survived to adulthood. And she is alive as well. I have over 50 first cousins. It’s always a party when we are all together!
Woah!! Family get togethers must be awesome!!
LOL my entire family is comprised of 14 people! Yes, grandparents and a great-grandmother included!
from the side of both my parents I have 10 cousins, and I hate when they come, I can't imagine being in your place 😬🤯
Exact same with my family lol. Always discovering new family members or awaiting the birth of a new baby
soooo nice
How strong these women were physically and especially emotionally for dealing with so much loss but still carrying on. They had no choice but, they carried on with grace
They sure did. And I greatly admire them for it. Any lady who is able to carry on despite losing a child or multiple children has my respect and admiration. ❤️
because of church i think and god will
My great grandmother was the oldest of 16 children. Needless to say, after helping to raise so many siblings, she only had one child (my paternal grandfather) and not until age 35 (old for 1923). Her family lived on a farm in Texas. They had to have a lot of kids to work the farm. Lol
Same with my great grandmother. My grandmother was one of the oldest and said all she ever remembers doing is cooking and doing dishes. Then getting ready to do it all over again. She only had four children which is small for a Mormon family lol
And my kids complain that 4 is too many. 🙄
That was the same with my great-grandfathers family. He was #10 of 13 and his wife was one of 11. Out of his siblings, 1 died as an infant, one died as a child and one died at 28 I suspect either from illness or childbirth. He and the rest outlived their parents and he outlived all of them.
Same with my grandmother. She was one of 14 children, they all lived in the country and had to work the fields. Her and my grandfather had two children, in their thirties.
Both of my grandmothers came from large Texan farm families. One had only my mother, my father’s birth mother died at 17, and my Mamaw became his mother when he was 5. She had one other son 10 years after that and a stillborn daughter. I remember stories of how hard life was for my grandmothers and their female family members. I don’t recall any of my great aunts having more than 2-3 children.
My heart is with all the heart and soul broken women who had to either bury their babies or spend countless hours delivering stillborn babies. No matter when in history or who it was, it’s a tragedy as old as time. May they be eternally reunited with their babies. May we all be eternally reunited with our angles.
My grandmother gave birth to 16 children with her last one being a stillborn. The family was very Catholic. My dad is #9. She had a mental breakdown when she had 5 under 5 years old. She begged her priest to let her use birth control - he said no! So she went on to have 10 more. Lived until she was 84. Good woman. A strong woman really. Ahhh, but if only her religion didn't dictate her reproductive choice! ❤M
My nan was like this. She had 5 kids in 5 years. When she went into the mental health unit, my grandfather couldn't look after them until my grandmother came back (typical 1960s man😩) The two youngest went into foster care and the 3 eldest (including my mother) went into a children's home. My uncle ended up with behavioural problems. My nan did have an abortion, but it was very hush hush with her borrowing money from my great aunt.
Glad I didn't live back then... 7 are enough... And my kids are 2 years apart or more ranging in age from almost 25 to almost 11... I'm DONE!!!!
Poor woman...I wonder how many of those 84 years she was truly happy. Or snuck off to cry in the bathroom with the sink running like me.... Even facturing in post partum depression.
@@mediocremaiden8883 Right?! She was very much in love with my grandfather, and she told all of her kids how much she loved them but man, life didn't have to be so hard for her as it was. My grandfather went to work every day while she stayed home. Just 1 income for 17 people! It's difficult to fathom really. She attributed everything to God in the end. That's where she derived her power from.
Thank goodness she survived to raise all of them.
My mother in law has 13 children (7 still at home) and they all love each other so much, but in menopause she is struggling to find her identity. Children can be a blessing if you're financially stable, but the toll on the mothers mental and physical health is never discussed enough. Humans are just not built for that.
Like parenthood in general- some are cut out for it, some aren't. My grandfather was one of thirteen and his mother seems to have been OK with it. I suppose having most of the family living nearby helped.
I went through menopause when I was in my 30's. It's misery but it doesn't last forever. I'm actually enjoying post menopausal life. Hang in there. Things will get better.🌹🍃
Empty nesting is common no matter how many children you have. My SIL had 2, both are grown and moved out, neither are having kids. They were raised well and are great people. She never developed herself past being a mother. That was her whole identity. Now that her kids don’t need her, she doesn’t know who she is. She has latched onto my kids a long time ago to fill the void.
I know a lot of younger women who only identify themselves as a mom. They live everyday for their kids, and never a day for themselves. They are going to have a rude awakening when the kids get older.
There are other ways to enjoy motherhood when your kids are adults. It's ok for your identity to be tied to being a mom, as long as you can enjoy their adulthood and independence.
I agree. We need to talk about the well-being of mothers more often, especially after they give birth. Yes, the baby will be the center of attention once they arrive, but we can't forget about the mother and we need to remind her that she is still important, arguably as much as the baby.
I spent 40 consecutive months pregnant and breastfeeding in my mid 20's. Two children were enough for me and it was a real pleasure to get my body back. I can't imagine having one pregnancy after another for 20 or more years.
Speaking of large families, the Bonapartes would be an interesting family to profile next. Napoleon's many siblings are all too often written off as hangers-on to their celebrity brother's coattails but they had some truly fascinating lives in their own right. Heck even his parents are rather interesting people in the context of Corsica's history.
Napoleon was my 8th great uncle on my mom's side. I've looked up his history and find it fascinating. Maybe you could do a who video on him. Thank you.
@@lizheuserbevan6564
I wonder if she’d address the strange rumours surrounding Napoleon & Pauline...
EDIT: Dear Fellow Commentators, PLEASE STOP TRYING TO CONVINCE ME OR ANYONE ELSE THAT QUEEN CHARLOTTE WAS "BI-RACIAL". SHE WAS NOT. And it was never "CONFIRMED" as Lindsay states in this video. That was false information and not historically accurate by any means. I would appreciate it she would edit the video and previous videos where she refers to Queen Charlotte as such. Especially if this channel’s purpose is to make history accessible and enjoyable. I’d certainly like to know who CONFIRMED Queen Charlotte’s bi-racial identity. Always cite your sources. Make sure they are credible.
Labeling Queen Charlotte as "bi-racial" implies that one of her parents was fully of African descent. Instead, it would be more accurate to say that she was of alleged African descent, as both of her parents families have roots in Europe for several generations. Margarida de Castro e Souza was herself a descent from a 6 times removed speculated (albeit unproven) Moorish woman. Note that "moorish" isn’t necessarily Black. This supposed ancestry has been contradicted by genealogists, who trace Margarita's descent to Afonso III of Portugal and a mistress of his called Madragana Afonso. As an African American and genealogy nerd, I find Queen Charlotte’s possible African ancestry interesting, but it does us all a disservice to portray inaccuracies.
I know she recycles dialogue if videos overlap subjects, but I wish she'd removed the dialogue claiming Queen Charlotte as biracial
@@ficfan3484 She does great work, and as a historian, I know it isn’t easy. Hopefully she sees these comments and makes the proper corrects for the sake of accuracy.
Thank you so much!!!
@Destiny Everyone has a wide ethnic inheritance. However, to say that a person is bi-racial, implies that their parents are of 2 different races. I do not like to use the term race, as I believe humankind is one race of many ethnicities. But for clarity based on the modern definition of race, the claim of Queen Charlotte being bi-racial is inaccurate.
@@bethaniw7640 you’re welcome.
I think it's so interesting to mention that they had staff behind them such as wet nurses to ensure they could care for all of those kids.
Whereas my great grandma had 17 living children and she was responsible for raising them all. Makes me wonder how on earth our ancestors who did not have the staff managed
Parents who couldn’t afford nannies simply made the elder children raise the younger ones. You can see it in any fundie family today. It’s called the ‘buddy system’ in those circles but the rest of us just call it parentification
@@emilybarclay8831 I never put the fundie thing together with my ancestors! Makes sense rather than IBLP it's just Catholicism 😄
@@NightcrawlerofR to be fair you don’t need to be a fundie to have had a massive family back then. You just need to be hot for your husband, a fertile match and not have access to birth control lol
Hot for him, no. Plenty women just laid there or endured his desires and ended up pregnant. It was miserable for them.
The older kids help with the younger ones.
The females in my family are prone to fraternal twins (multiple egg releases during ovation). My grandmother was one of 18 children, with several sets of twins. My aunt, in the late 70s, lied her way into a hysterectomy after her 3rd set.
There are 11 sets of fraternal twins among my cousins and I on that side.
Don't blame her think I would have lied sooner.
Why would she lie her way into a hysterectomy. She could have just gotten her tubes tied, or a vasectomy for the husband. A hysterectomy is kinda overkill and physically traumatic when an option that is just as effective is available.
Your aunt was still able to conceive into her late 70s? Isn't that like a world record
@@matteusconnollius1203 1970, not her 70s.
@@hardtogetnamehere I had to beg my doctor for a tubal ligation after having my children. He said I was too young and a lot of doctor's cite this reason for refusing to perform a tubal; . The only reason why he did it was because I was married for over ten years at the time. This was in 2006, so I can't imagine what the school of thought was in the '70s. My husband could've gotten a vasectomy, but that wasn't going to stop me from getting a tubal ligation. I was done with having children and was leaving nothing to chance.
Some of those queens were barely out of childhood when they started having their own children. Different times but oh my goodness.😞
Yep. 😎Richard II of England married for his second wife, Isabella of Valois. 😎He was 29, she was 6! 😝Blech!😝
@@ChibiProwl he never consummated it thankfully
For very young wives, they might be sent to live with their husbands, but there would generally be an understanding that a sexual relationship wouldn't start until, say, a year after their first period (and puberty generally occurred later than it does today, which would generally place the girls in their mid-teens).
Lady Margaret Beaufort, mother to King Henry VII, had him at age 13 after a challenging labour, and never had any other children. Even back then, it was said that she had simply been too young to have a child, and her body suffered permanent damage as a result.
@@simrenbajaj6000 Thank God, but still….the age difference.😝
The church was very against it but obviously the politics of nobles was involved. Older men with very young brides was thankful usually related to politics (e.g. she was more legitimate in his title than him and being married meant she couldn't just be kidnapped and his rivals would have to kill him), though King John was one of those exceptions (much to everyone's disgust).
In the other classes the church was successful in their campaigning and marriages between the young typically came with a contract agreeing that they wouldn't cohabiting until about 18-20, within the average of 16-22 for people to marry. Over time they also used the fact of the danger of infertility to stop even nobles from doing it, as the danger of a succession dispute was always paramount.
I love your videos but I wish you’d stop referring to Queen Charlotte as “Britain’s first biracial Queen”. Someone who has to go back 13 generations for a confirmed black ancestor cannot claim blackness in any way
Thank you!
This. If she’s biracial then so is pretty much every other person in Europe
Your forgetting one important detail, these royals were inbred severally.
So really 13 generations while a bit far back doesn't mean much when everyone in the family kept marrying first couisins.
He's probably her grandfather a dozen times over at that point👀
Agreed
I completely agree, she was white with moor ancestry. Not biracial in any regard.
My great-great-grandmother gave birth to 24 children. My great-grandmother being the second youngest.
Her younger sister got pregnant at 16 and was shiped to Denmark and they never saw each other again.
As a result of this, my great-grandmother was scared of pregnancy and birth. Giving birth to my grandmother at 33 and never having anymore children.
Strong women. Especially with how dangerous pregnancy and delivery during their time.
I needed c-sections to have my children. And I'm so happy I wasn't alive back then cause I would have died during child birth!
I also would have died during childbirth.
My pelvic outlet is abnormally narrow, and my baby had "football player" shoulders. Thank goodness my OB knew beforehand; scheduled Caesarian.
I am also grateful he didn't tell me all the ***details*** of how we both would have died until I asked ... post birth.
@@tangenty6987 yup. I have a heart shaped uterus with a septum that separates it into 2 chambers. Once my first was born I was informed afterwards I would have been one of those women that died in a field. Very thankful for the medical advances we have now!
@@No-sv6mu But you do realize that you could be spreading your bad genes to your daughters... Genes that resulted in your misshapen uterus. I think it used to be a natural selection to weed out women bad genes before modern medicine figured out how to save these women. I also know a lady who knows her uterus is irregularly shaped and she chose not to have children to avoid both trouble giving birth and a risk spreading bad genes to future generation
@@EvgeniyaJZ nope it wasnt caused by genetics. Just a error when I was forming in my mom. Similar to how a child might be born with a cleft palate. Things just didnt merge together the right way as I was developing.
C-sections are very old, it’s literally called that because of Julius Caesar
Maria Therese: I am going to name ALL of my daughters after myself…. Except this one, she’s Johanna.
As a female history major in college, constantly surrounded by World War II and Roman History Guys™ who try to mansplain everything to me, you have no idea how grateful I am to have found your channel. Thank you for providing such interesting videos, and for creating a judgement free environment that welcomes more of us ladies in history!!!
I was a history major and now a history teacher by profession. I never had men in my classes that acted like that. I graduated in 2006.
Why are you a history major if you are that sensitive?
@@MJ13ish why are you overreacting to such a harmless comment?
@@brumbrum987654321 People like that think if you are a woman studying something beyond grade 12, that's also odd and against nature. They'll assume they'll put "over emotion/sensitivity" into everything because that's "wut the wimmiz do". Furthermore, they think if you are not a cold, devoid, calculating machine, and have any opinion out of "bee-boop-beep-muhlogicz", you have no right to further education, (hint-hint), or they will question your legitimacy.
It is simply just their way.
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Brutal times for the ladies back then . My own grandma had 12 children!!! My great great grandfather was married twice and had 18 total children they all worked the farm . The needs of a wife then are scary to me it’s just a lot to put a body through.
My great great grandma had 21 children, 2 died. She lived till 92. The family was poor, no wet nurses or staff here to help. I think as in all large families the older kids help with the younger ones. My neighbours had 11 children and I noticed how much the older ones had to do .
in the part where you talked about Queen Anne of England, I love that you also were thoughtful enough to talk about what medication could have saved her babies. In the back of my head, I've always wondered why she lost/miscarried so many kiddos.
Imagine being shipped off like a package as a child for a marriage where you and your husband just hate each other all the time but you still have to sleep with him as much as it takes to even get pregnant 17 times. Even if that was „normal“ back then, UGH is all i can say
I feel for the Queens who lost their babies and children. My heart goes out to them. Losing a child is the most painful and heart breaking.
My maternal grandmother has 22 siblings. There are 8 left in there 80s and 90s. It amazes me how this was normal back then!
I've absolutely no idea how these women used to manage raising all those kids without an army of nannies and home servants. And giving births without pain relief.
The TFR in 1930s US dropped to 2.1 children per woman replacement rate. Having 22 siblings was as abnormal in the 1930s as now. Remember cheaper by the the dozen came out only soon after they obviously were not the norm.
your family today must be huge 😮😮
Without even watching the video, I can tell that many people will be saddened by Queen Anne's story. She lost ALL of her children before they became teenagers and they ALL died before her. ALL 17. No wonder she was severely depressed...
My dad is one of 12( technically 13 but one was a miscarriage). My Grandma and grandpa kept all of them feed and healthy despite raising them in poverty. No royal servants and nursemaids to help.
I once told my mom I wanted 10. You know like an idiot.
That last line had me cackling. 😂
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You were probably too young to understand, like I was as a child. I always dreamed of having a happy marriage and lots of children. I still have those dreams, but now I know better than just start a family all willy-nilly. It takes time, planning, and a good nest egg for security. The most important thing is to have a soulmate to marry and/or have children with. ❤️
More the merrier.
Also there is never a prefect time, as this story shows you must deal with hardship if you want blessings. Most childlessness today if of those who wanted children but waited too long, everyone also knows many women who dearly wanted more children but were lucky enough to conceive those they did in their late 30's.
you could swing it. today there's all kind s o f help. i woul d have if i could have. but i di d have 6 and wish i had more.
Can't describe my delighted surprise that you started with Mumtaz Mahal. For some reason, I thought you were only going to talk about European queens. So happy to hear Indian history on this, one of my favorite channels.
I loved her story
I mean it's sad but the love he had for her
My grand mother died in 2003 aged 90. She had 22 children and 14 survived. I am the same as most people how did they cope and in small houses 🏘 xx.
Because breastfeeding generally delays the return of a woman's period after giving birth, the use of wetnurses in these noble families also worked to increase the number of pregnancies. In the average peasant family, the pregnancies would have been naturally spaced further apart (although there are of course exceptions with some women having no trouble conceiving while they are still breastfeeding).
Old wives tale.
@@Chuck0856 no it is not! it is a proven fact. but the mother must only breastfeed and not give any bottles and , nurse a lot. not be skinny. etc.
interesting! i’m only 14 months younger than my sister, so my mum got pregnant again really quickly after she was born 😂
My mom is from a family of 13. The most interesting thing is, my grandmother had most her kids in a certain month or weeks off. We know what was happening up in the mountains during the holidays! Lol
when its rains.....lol
My grandmother (father’s mom) was the youngest of 8. 1 son and 7 girls. She in turn only had 1 son because having my dad almost killed her and this was in 1937
My great grandma had twins then took her 9 years to have a live birth. Sadly, she bled out and died. This was 1939.
It was a time in which they didnt even wash their hands.
The Dr that later insisted you should wash between a delivery & a cadaver was beaten to death
My grandmother had 17 children which included 3 sets of twins (2 Girls, 2 Boy and then my mom and her twin brother). My mother had 9 children (8 boys and then me). My brothers have no less than 5 kids each. Including one brother who had 2 sets of twins back to back.
17? omg 😳 congrats to ur mother 👏👏
@@bridgetmidget3592 I met a lady who had two sets of big strapping boy identical twins 18 months apart, and she was pregnant with her third set of identical twin boys. She said they were DONE after that set. Her dr said it was in the billions of chances to have three sets of identicals, and she went to have 6 kids under 4. They were really nice looking kids, and big and healthy. She was soo tiny.
Wow, I love big families! That's so amazing but for sure hard work as well. Everybody has to play a part in the household and upbringing so that it works out well. '
I once had visited a family with 14 kids, 2 of them already moved out. They had a room for the girls and a room for the boys. 6 of them had been homeschooled at that time, the older ones worked during daytime while doing college online at night. They had a weekly plan for the household which includes every child from age 6 and upwards doing their part of cleaning and laundry. There were strict rules which includes only running and playing loudly (e.g. also screaming) in the backyard. In the house they were only allowed to play quietly and without running. During 2-4pm was quiet time and their mum could rest a little bit while the kids could do everything but in silence. I really really liked that concept and it worked very well!
must be a blessing to have a big family. so many have nobody to turn to for anything ! no family!and no good times like at holidays. LIFE GETS REAL COLD without a good sized family of people who care about each other. Life gets real hard all alone , especially as people get older.
@@carolynatkinson5456wow, i feel like that should be a world record!
My great x2 grandmother had 16 children, with my great grandmother being the youngest. Despite the several pregnancies and constant stress from all of those children, she's remembered as a very kinda woman despite the several pains in her neck.
And I’m here SWEATING, thinking about having just ONE next year after getting our own house, ……these ladies popping out children like skittles taste the rainbow 🌈
child bearing is actually good for you if you are healthy. and each birth gets easier. just be sure to breastfeed exclusively for as long as possible, as that is natural birth control and also very good for your body. Nursing shrinks the uterus and produces feel-good hormones. Pregnancy itself has hormones that heal and beautify your body as well. and prevent wrinkles... etc The fetus sends out healing chemistry to the mother's body. Nursing helps you lose body fat.
@@theCosmicQueen how did you as a woman managed to talk like a straight 60 year old man who is obsessed with 20s to 30s year old women's fertility? 😬
Just a correction in the Mumtaz mahal segment- Mughal empire consisted of India (including Kashmir) Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Always enjoy these historical videos ☺️ maybe we could see some more Indian history videos - the Marathas, Mughals for starters have a lot of interesting historical drama😅
After the Taj Mahal story, the rest seemed lame…makes me wonder how fabulous Indian history could be CRAZY INTERESTING! 😳
Mughal empire could make a reality series.They were powerful but dysfunctional.🤔
@@deloreswilson1798 ya after(by the time of) Aurangzeb it just all went downhill 😂
My great grandma literally was a single mother of 12. My mom's dad's mom, this was during Jim Crow segregation in the 50s and 60s in Virginia.
And about 3 years after she died, my mom named me after her.
RIP, Grandma Gracie
Single mother of 12! Good lord, she was a strong lady indeed.🙌 May she Rest in Peace🙏
@@thatrenaissancelady
The father of her children wanted to marry her, but his parents married him off to another woman because they hated her
So she was alone raising 12 kids and she made sure all of them went through school and got their education made something of themselves.
Just the image of this royal couple sitting in silence holding hands and grieving the loss of their babies hurts my heart… :(
Yikes. My dad was one of 10, and one of my aunts had 15. According to family history my great aunt had 24 or 25 children, but only the ones which lived long enough to be christened (16) are recorded. She apparently had 3 sets of triplets and 4 sets of twins, but there’s only christening records for one set of triplets, plus it’s possible that some of the christening records for twins were triplets where one died at birth.
My great great grandmother gave birth to twenty children! Fortunately, depending on how you look at it, twins ran on both sides of the family so she only had to give birth fifteen times!!!
Pregnancy and childbirth is one of my biggest fears as it is in modern age, I can't imagine having to go through with it 15 times like Eleanor where only 6 survive until adulthood...
Edit: Omg I hadn't even made it to Anne's part of the video, 18 births and only 1 survivor🥴
they been brain washed by GODSWILL
who’d only live for like 11 years
Pregnancy and Childbirth are fine in the modern age. Most healthy women have uneventful pregnancies and recover well from birth. It's a natural but intense process. Health and attitude make everything
there had to be several things dreadfully wrong, and of course not enough ways to help them at that time.
My Great Grandma Betty has 15 children (born between 1955 & 1975). She & My Great Grandpa Ralph have been married for almost 70 years. My Grandma Donna is there oldest child (she has many stories from what it was like to grow up the oldest of 15). They where Irish Catholic and most still live in Chicago. To say that the family gatherings are chaotic is an understatement.
Would you say to your knowledge if your grandmother seems to know all of her siblings well? I feel like with that many siblings you might be like to not know some very well
@@matteusconnollius1203 baloney. they know them well enough. And no doubt there's always someone there for them when one is in need. Unlike those without hardly any family.
my great grandmother had 14 pregnancies, only 7 survived
Having so many pregnancies very often took a toll on women, queen's no different. Being a queen consort with so many pregnancies us one thing but being a queen regnant like Maria Theresa and being almost all the time pregnant, that's though. I didn't expect any polish dynasties related historical characters but Anna Jagielonica is part of dynasty that ruled Poland, Hungary and Bohemia, and two of her daughters married another Jagiellonian Sigismundus II Augustus.
Wow, I had no idea that kingdom of Armenia has so many bloody chapters in terms of deposed kings
My great-grandmother gave birth to 16 children with giving birth to her first child at merely 15. I am 21 right now and by 21 she already had 3 kids and was pregnant with her 4th. It's so wild to think and compare the stark differences between our times and how she had practically no autonomy over her body. Poor medical facilities and lack of medical knowledge didn't make things better, every pregnancy could either end well with a healthy child or death. Thank you Lindsay for the fascinating video!
By my age (37), my grandmother had been working since she was 13- one marriage behind her, was on to her second- & had had 6 pregnancies/ births- & had moved from the town of her birth, to a different part of the state for her second husband’s* work... It still blows my mind what they managed.
*actually- she’d left her first husband, & didn’t marry her second (my grandfather) ‘til a year after their third child (my mother)...
I’m sorry but your great grandmother is the exception, not the norm. Most 21-year-olds in the 1920s and 1930s didn’t have any children let alone 3. The TFR in the US (and I’m guessing a lot of European countries too had similar patterns) was 3 children per woman in 1925 and had fallen to 2.1 children (replacement rate) by the late 1930s. Your great grandmother literally had her kids in the flapper age, a time when women were gaining more and more rights every year. And the most unusual thing that you think was normal was the fact that she had her first at 15. Most 15-year-old girls didn’t even have their periods until about 1960. See decline in age at menarche due to processed foods and chemicals. A 15-year-old having a baby is about as common a century ago as now.
Can we stop calling Charlotte biracial? She barely would be visibly black making her not black……
and who cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! everyone knows
No reason to be rude.
@@vorynrosethorn903 no one was rude. I made a very simply request.
And then there is Emily FitzGerald (née Lennox), Duchess of Leinster who gave birth to 22 children. Her father was the 2nd Duke of Richmond whose marriage had been arranged in order to settle his father's gambling debts. Surprisingly, the union turned out to be a happy one, which affected the Duke's attitudes about marriage. He allowed his daughter Emily to marry for love and although both Emily and her husband had affairs, their marriage was also a fairly happy one. After the death of her husband, the first Duke of Leinster, and with 19 children to her credit, she married William Ogilvie, a commoner. Together they had another three children. It is also widely believed that her last son from the first marriage was actually Ogilvie's. Large families had advantages in terms of securing dynastic succession in an age when child mortality rates were very high. But in this case it turned out to have been deeply injurious to the finances of the House of Leinster. The first Duke was overly generous in his will to his widow and many children. The result was that the second Duke was so financially encumbered by annuities and doweries that he was left with an income of barely ₤7,000. That would have been a substantial income for most people. But for a Duke with vast estates to maintain as also political and charitable causes he was expected to support, it was wholly inadequate and the Dukedom found itself cash strapped for generations. The last of the family's lands and estates were lost in the early part of the last century. The title still exists, but the current holder does not use it and lives a quiet middle class life. (Edit: Typo)
I’m not sure you can call Charlotte England’s first “known” bi-racial Queen. Experts on this topic have questioned it. And the moors of North Africa have varying skin tones. If you could look into it and clarify the matter, I would greatly appreciate it.
Not really sure 1 black person in 500 years counts as a biracial heritage.
One result of the Roman Empire is that we are all mixed. While it’s true that odd genes can pop up now and then after centuries, I believe that (except in cases like the slavery in the US or that of Nazi Germany) the social construct of race mainly pertains to one’s appearance.
Not really, North Africans are also white, the social construct is largely the borders we put it at (in west it continues to be the borders of historical Christendom, but the reality is that common ancestry stretches to Pakistan and includes high caste Indians (the caste system is rooted in a racial one set up by invaders a bit like in the early Muslim empire), Persians for example are much less arabised, but even the arabs are deeply interrelated, hell most jews are different due to a population bottleneck in medieval times rather than different ancestry, the massive split comes when comparing Turkic people and the like), we are very genetically different, and not acknowledging that would be a nightmare for doctors as it goes deeper than the skin and leads to different potency of disease, likelihood of illness and reactions to medication. The amount of slaves from South of the Sahara during Roman time was very limited, most slaves were greek, celt, or Germanic, also the period ended with large scale Germanic migrations.
She was North African 16 generations back, which kind of makes it clear how desperate they are to link royals to this sort of nonsense, in all likelihood she was just born with a darker tone of skin, if it was from ancestry then they should probably have been looking towards possible flings with the gardener rather than ancestry so far back as to be very very minimal on the wider genetic level.
@@vorynrosethorn903
true. many spaniards are just a bit darker than mortherners because of ancient admixtures. if moors were in Spain for 700 years, they would also have lightened .
Lindsay, there are other royal/noble women who gave birth or had a staggering number of pregnancies. They were: Elisabeth Amalie of Hesse-Darmstadt, Electress Palatine. She had 17 children. Two of her daughters had successful marriages, Maria Anna of Neuburg married Charles II of Spain and Eleanor Magdalena married Leopold I, Holy Roman Emperor. Another queen who deserves a mention is Maria Luisa of Parma, queen of Spain. She gave birth to 14 children, but counting her miscarriages, she was pregnant a total of 24 times!
Also Queen Darejan of Georgia, Countess Dorothea of Stolberg-Gedern, and Archduchess Maria Josepha, Queen of Poland who had 14 children and 15 miscarriages
24 pregnancies?! Holy cow!
Princess of Carolina of Nassau-Orange had 15 children but 4 were stillborn. Countess Consort of Stolberg-Gerden Christine of Mecklenburg-Güstrow had 23 children but 11 survived adulthood. She is the great-great-great grandmother of Queen Victoria.
I’m glad that you have podcasts! Your voice is very calming and well modulated, and is so nice to listen to. I actually enjoy your visuals, too, because they very nicely paced. It’s nice to have choices, because there are times when I just want to really relax and lie down and listen!
My great grandmother had 11 kids with at least 2 sets of twins. That was in the 1910s too. Amazing women, for sure.
Re Queen Charlotte,if it’s 13 generations back, does it _really_ count as biracial?
by now reading this far down, who cares!!!!!!!
If you are going to call Queen Charlotte biracial because of an ancestor 15 generations ago, then you have to call all of her descendants, including Queen Elizabeth and her entire family biracial. Don't get me wrong, I would love it if they could prove that the royals were actually biracial, but one ancestor 15 generations ago who is not even confirmed to be black....that's a real stretch and when you report on it like you just it it diminishes your credibility.
It’s truly bizarre to hear her continuously repeat that same line from an earlier episode and then literally right after state that the ancestor was 15 generations back. Like, how can someone be biracial because of a 13x great grandparent?
@@piratesswoop725 someone picked up on this when Meghan Markle joined the Royal Family, and sensationalized it so they could sell their articles. And it worked, people keep repeating it, they even made a movie based in part on the idea...its all about selling copy and making money. Oh and monetized UA-cam videos.
Elizabeth acknowledges her black history was kind it
Megan about it
@@barbaracampbell9907 Are you thinking of that Lifetime movie lol
@@piratesswoop725 no
Not at all
My maternal grandmother had 13 kids, one died as a baby(girl), one was killed in one assault(he had 2 small kids, 2y/o and 2 months), the rest are still alive, she died of heart problems(around the same time as her son), we were 53 grandkids( 1 died as a kid falling from a three 40 years ago), my mom was #10 and she was the first one to be born in a hospital
I am very glad that I had an opportunity to listen the history of my country from my favorite channal. Georgia still is unknown for many people so thank you that you put the story of Queen Darejan in the video.
I almost had a heart attack thinking today was Mother's Day and that I had forgotten lmao had to Google it real quick
Thank you for delightful royal stories you are bringing to us, dear Lindsay! You are creating each of them with a class, knowledge and style. Keep up the good work 💜💜💜
my great-great grandmother had 12 kids, and they all survived to adulthood which i thought was pretty cool!
My grandmother birthed 16 children. 15 survived to adulthood and 12 are still with us. She was truly the strongest woman I’ve ever known!
Here in Mexico my great-great-grandma gave birth to 29 children :S
"Biracial" Queen with one black moorish ancestor 13 generations back. *sigh* Can we let the "one drop rule" thing go already?! 😂
I understand Queen Charlotte not wanting her daughters to essentially become brood mares for the sake of a crown, yet was there any thought about her daughters-in-law?
IIRC there was a succession crisis not long after Charlotte's husband died, as the sons hadn't been very interested in marrying either (they took mistresses). Queen Charlotte had few daughters-in-law to worry about!
i like that "Mrs. Mahal" was admired/loved/respected for her intellect as well as for her reproductive abilities.
Hey Lindsay! Will you be sharing the upcoming topics with us just like you did the last time ? I am desperate to see you cover French and Spanish Kings and Queen Consorts. We could connect so many of them to the English/UK Kings and Queen consorts which would be so much fun. I have some kind of obsession with the European royal family tree!
Great video and it always brings me joy to see your notifications for new upload pop up!
My uterus was screaming in terror throughout this video, having survived an extremely traumatic and life threatening c section at 26 weeks myself, I literally cannot have anymore kids cause of the damage. I would never have survived as a woman in these times Good lord
Geez, I can definitely see why Queen Elizabeth I noped out of that kind of thing!
my great aunt had 22 kids. 3 sets of twins and 16 singles.
This video was amazing! Can you please create another series?
I would LOVE a full video on the children of Anna and her 15 children. ❤️
Lindsay, I absolutely love your voice itself--it's a pleasure to listen to.
I had my first baby at 19 and the doctor said I was lucky she was born small, despite still getting stuck and the doctor having to reposition her. I can’t imagine having a baby any younger than that, much less 13… 😮
Imagine! This is why I’m afraid of childbirth. I’m glad you and your child managed to survive
Nothing ventured nothing gained, and what more to gain than new life.
Yep, there was a reason it was heavily stigmatized by the church and marriages between young people tended to come with a contract agreeing they wouldn't cohabit until 18 or so, really most people started between 16 and 22. It is better for future births and everything else if you start in your early twenties at least, the longer it is left the more complications are likely, but one in the twenties gets the body used to it and lowers the chance of problems in your 30's. Those it's really the least of our worries as average age of childbirth going up over thirty historically trends with societal collapse, civil wars and revolution.
So happy to have found your spotify podcasts - that's my Sunday listening sorted, thanks!!
SO EXCITED GOR YOUR PODCAST!!! I’ve been obsessed with your videos for awhile and I just know your podcast will be amazing!!!
Mumtaz was truly loved by her husband... When she died in childbirth having her last child, her husband built the Taj Mahal in her honor...
Extremely interesting!!
If only he loved her so much as to not put her through another childbirth. 🐝
@@amandadassonville4043you see this it was not so " unique" for queens
My 5th Great Grandmother had 13 children in the early 1800's and all but three survived into adulthood. She lived well into her seventies.
A fascinating segment! Thanks for the interesting information
Man, can’t imagine having that many kids
A good idea for a video could be the grandchildren of Charles V
Thank God for Birth Control and the right to decide whether you want to be pregnant or not.
Actually, two daughters of Anna Jagiellonica married the king of Poland Sigismund II Augustus - Elizabeth and Catherine were both married to him, Catherine after her sister died.
Thank you so much for all you do!!!!
I adore your videos I can’t wait for the podcasts!!!
My great-grandmother had 18 pregnancies of whom 12 children survived. She regained her figure fast as well!
13 generations ago isn't biracial, or I would be too, since my African ancestors date to just before the US Civil War, that is, some of my 4th and 5th (and earlier) ancestors only 6-8 generations ago. And I have been doing my families genealogy since 2005. She just has confirmed African Ancestry, but isn't biracial, that is BarakObama. On census records people who were only 1/8th African were listed as octoroons, not biracial.
Brilliantly researched love your channel
I loved this. Thank you for sharing!
....Why do my ovaries suddenly hurt...?