"That's so cool!", I would say if I wouldn't get hit instantly by the feeling that someone wants to sneak into our close circle of trust on the back of a highly appreciated community member.
Alex I don’t know if you read these, but while Martyr is a 1/5 that actively tries to lose you the game, hydra Bob that has lane move on snap which is a benefit, cannot also be a 1/5. Now if you want to make martyr a 0/3 that is interesting but there’s your reason
@@andreicezarrusu4616 ok, but they are doing what you describe as the solution. Hydra bob being the best 1 drop is the problem, not martyr being equal to him.
I disagree. Bob was far and away the best vanilla one drop. Card game players will always search for strong plug and play best in cost options, and we will just gravitate to whatever next card "is the best". Bob was too good, and was in literally every "good stuff" deck, and even some other decks he didn't really fit in. That's how you know he was too good, and I think it was perfectly reasonable to bring him down slightly. Alex is just upset because he likes the card because it's strong.
Literally the card acquisition system is still the issue here. Notice his main complaint is "to everyone who spent 6k tokens on this card". Devs should be able to tweak cards as they feel necessary based on data and not feel bad about it. But the fact that these cards are so hard to get (and replacements may not be owned) is the real reason nerfs to generic, go in every deck, good cards feels so bad
Alex, Hydra Bob has been in virtually every top deck since about a week or two since it was in spotlights and buffed to 1/5 last second back in July. Obviously frustrating for people who recently spent 6k tokens on him, but I don't agree at all that he's "found his home" in the last 2 weeks.
@@h445 I mean, I guess you're not really paying much attention either. He's been the standard 1 drop the entire 2nd half of 2024. He's only become more popular as more people have gotten tired of him not returning to spotlights and just buying him with tokens.
Since july? Im top 50. He has been used a lot by the top 0.1% for 2 months max, goon knight and ajax decks being his first home. Like 1 month for the rest of users. Clueless. You cant name a meta home for him since july, there wasnt one
@@Defaultuseraccount Congrats to you! Cool flex I guess. Maybe July (when he was released) was an exaggeration, but "2 months max" is also not true at all. Alex has Hydra Bob in top decks dating back to September in his videos, and KMB was showcasing decks with Bob even prior to that.
I feel quite different from you on this one. Hydro Bob was an auto-include for those few that owned him, so much so that it was starting to be on every top list lately. 1-4 is still incredibly strong, so those that own him will survive. Scream's deck has hardly been changed from reading these patch notes; if anything, the reduction in Luke Cage probably makes it more viable now than it was before. As much as I used to love Luke Cage, I welcome a reduction of his extremely powerful effect nullifying many decks carte blanche.
Luke cage not being on your bingo card is a bit worrying haha. He was being played in curve out decks. Though this one power loss does pretty much nothing. He needs to be less global. Only affecting afflict from hostile sources or just one lane.
I see two ways of adjusting him where he isn’t just a that ain’t happening card. 1. He only affects cards played after him. 2. He takes the affliction onto himself.
This new version of Hela also likes discarding Death even more than the previous version did, since Death has a completely unique cost. Arishem does, too, but, uh, Arishem Hela sounds like *quite* the pile.
I can FINALLY do traditional Hela discard again! I never liked "discarding big cards" and prefer traditional discard with Morbius and Blade and everyone with Hela as a finisher so this fits my playstyle a lot better! I took her out of my discard deck but I can try her again!❤ At least until Bullseye comes out in a couple days😂
I’m actually very surprised on some of your takes here. If you look at a 1-5 with barely a downside it’s just way too strong , goes in every deck, and how could he not be nerfed is silver sable was? Luke cages effect for a 3 cost is way too strong. He single handedly ruins steal and afflict cards. I love USA agent, but he hits one card he’s a 2/7. I do think scream could have stayed a 2-3 though, especially by fixing the steal interaction.
Disagree with your bob take. Bob being a 5 power with upside when other 1 drops like rocket and titania require so much more just makes him an auto include into most decks because there is no downside to running him. Almost every top deck in the past couple of months that had space for a 1 drop was running Bob after silver sable got nerfed. SD should have never buffed him with 2 hours left on the clock in the first place but thats besides the point.
Officially killing Mrs Marvel given that this version of Mr Fastastic can also be played in negative and Ravonna, game balance is tough for this game, I feel like this ota is kinda throwing shit at the wall to see if some of these fixes are actually good for the game
@ As you know you can change more than 1 card at a time, so the first point is kind of mute and Mr F is a much bigger name in the MU than Ms. M. It could be, and can easily be targeted by tech cards. I wouldn't really worry about it actually happening, its was a quick joke about him and the number 4, since he's part of the Fantastic... 4. That's it, that's as much thought that went into it. Regarding the OTA, I didn't really mention that, so yeah. I agree, what ever.
Alex, I think the Luke Cage nerf is a top meta thing. Luke is in literally everything, way too good offensively, and completely invalidates entire decks defensively.
I think so. Im not "top meta", but i run luke, Valentina, and anti venom in quite a few decks. He makes Valentina good, anti venom incredible, and as a bonus he negates rocket & groot, the entire afflict archetype, and can straight up win an odd location here or there.
not to mention, in casual play, he ruins the release week of every new card using affliction. like, yeah it happens to other new cards, but luke just prevents any fun entirely
The issue isn't specifically that he's top meta, it's that affliction is strong as fuck and not only is he's literally the only card that shuts it down, he literally insta wins affliction matchups lol
Interesting, I agreed with every single one of the changes. Surprised you didn’t see a LC debuff coming, seemed inevitable to me. LC is retroactive and global in a way no other tech card is. Then they were about to make him protect against scream too. Scream is a bit OP with +4 swing every time she moves my cards, which is already frustrating to deal with and almost impossible to stop. Hydro Bob was in a ridiculous amount of top decks and 1/4 already gives you priority most games playing on T1. And I thought US Agent was too OP as well, up to -16 for a 2 drop?
the US Agent change is such a huge nerf; one of the only few counters to big stat decks for smaller costed decks. Such a shame as I loved the design of the card.
Stupid change literally the stats that made the card dog doo doo to begin with they make no sense. They successfully scammed all of us outta our tokens/keys we used to get him cause he is literally what he released as. About done with this game.
I think you're overreaching to some of these changes, I like the patch in general Scream: My favorite card because cards that move things are my favorite cards. When I use the decks I use with Scream I am almost never winning or losing due to one power on Scream, my problems come from a lot of often less powerful cards being used with her or bad luck with card draws combined with the costs of many cards used with her leaving few options if you don't get lucky early. Spiderman: Buff sounds great and like it will probably fix a frequent problem I have with Scream decks where I frequently needed something to be discounted if I didn't get that ideal Kingpin, Scream, Spiderman/Polaris, etc playline. Now I can Spiderman and Kingpin on 3, or Scream/Kraven and Spiderman on 4, Spiderman and Polaris on five if I don't have or want to use Aero, etc. Luke Cage: One of the worst cards in the game. Nothing should be shutting down multiple opponent deck types, powering multiple deck types like Hela (well not now), afflicting all cards, Anti-Venom, Valentina, now stopping Scream and Rocket and Groot, and stopping more random use cards like US Agent just by throwing him down wherever and whenever on top of negating the negative effect of a variety of locations. Can be dropped as a surprise cube stealing win condition. Any nerfs he gets are good and if anything he needs to go back to protecting one lane. He is doing way too much and no thought stopping way too many deck archetypes and he is the exact kind of card that gets made early and as a game goes on designers have to constantly look back on as something stopping them from doing more interesting things with future cards. US Agent: Seems like a fine change for something that can be doing quite a bit for a low cost, even more so with the increased frequency of good four drops being released. Seeing less Luke Cage will be a bigger buff for him. Kazar: I play a lot of zoo, he was cut a long time ago for Marvel Boy and relevant tech cards like Red Guardian, seems to be obviously needed and more so with his low play and winrate. I think he should have been made a three cost and likely power lowered though, have him as a different or more easy to use option with Marvel Boy and let him work with Moonstone or dropped at the end with Mystique, but I'll take the one power if nothing else. Hydra Bob: Absolutely needed. If people had him and knew what they were doing they used him. He was in near every deck shown by players like KM, and being a 1/4 with a more often upside if you know what you are doing or have a deck where it directly benefits it him at a 1/4 still makes him one of the best one drops to just throw in any random deck and a 1 drop you would use in the decks built more towards his ability like a lot of other one drops are. Probably will continue to be used in the better decks that used him. Sentry: A good change. The text on the picture should also say -9 for void. Onslaught: Nice to see, had no idea his winrate was that low. Mister Fantastic: Finally a good change to him and in time where Moonstone can work with him, I suppose the buffed Onslaught as well. Like you said not doing Ms Marvel any favors but a good change. Hela: Interesting, and somewhat confusingly worded to start with.
I think this patch is awesome, not sure why you think it's mid. Scream deserved a nerf - she's just too powerful. But I agree, buffing Kingpin could compensate for this nerf, while Spiderman just can't. Luke Cage is limiting design space. He's protecting you from affliction, no matter how many damage it deals to you, also he helps you with your own affliction. It does it across the board. The problem with "he has counters" is that you can play him on the last turn of the game and it doesn't even matter where you play him, so it's hard to snipe it with alioth/rogue/enchatress etc. USAgent and Hydration Robert. Those cards definitely overperform and deserved a nerf. It looks like the only agrument that those nerf are bad, because people spent tokens on them. I don't think we need unhealthy meta just because of the economy. Also "Hydra Bob is not a problem, because we have killmonger as a counter", I simply don't agree with this take. Having counter to something doesn't mean you can make busted cards (let's make Hydra Bob 1/100, because he has a counter).
I think you're 100% right about Scream. And that doesn't even account for the fact they also "fixed" a bug with the card. Another thing about this OTA is pulling power from Luke Cage and USAgent both at the same time they're wanting us to use those cards (among a few others) to get a whole lot of wins is really frustrating timing-wise.
I completely agree with what you said about nerfing Ajax instead of US Agent Alex, but I think US agent also needed that nerf because he is actually being played in many other decks outside of toxic with a 12% meta share. I tend to find him pretty frustrating at times since he can be an easy 2/7 in a Wiccan deck.
I kinda agree with Hydra Bob nerf, with lots of 1/5 have drawbacks, I found that his effect is actually good to have 1/5 that move, it gives 1/5 to be an option again (Martyr, Victoria), Bob "drawback" does not compare with Martyr and Victoria in 1/5.
I asked for US Agent to be nerfed back to his -3 rather than -4. All of the other 2 drops that can be 2/19 or 2/15 are played early and scale throughout the game face up. US Agent drops on T6 with absolutely no counterplay available. Even if you do have a rogue in your deck, rogueing US Agent does not change his affect being applied to the lane. Red Guardian is your only answer, and its very easy to negative power bring a different card below US Agent’s 3 power in the lane if you are not playing him on the final turn. With his complete lack of counterplay his power should be curved down Also Hydration Robert needed to be nerfed. 1/5 upside is a crazy statline. He has been a core component of a lot of lists for a long time.
"It feels like the OTA are a lot of changes for changes sake" I feel that has been the case more often than I care for. Like there doesn't HAVE to be crazy balance changes so often, let the meta chill out for a while. I dunno, just my opinion but there have been SO many headscratchers
I will actually disagree there. One of the biggest strengths when it comes to player retention that this game has is a constantly shifting meta. While not all these changes are bangers, some of the most excitement older players get is seeing a card that they already own get changed, making them excited to play that card.
Luke Cage has been meta for like a month and I'm kinda sick of it because I don't have USAGENT, Ajax, etc. Same with hydration Robert. He deserved that
I am sorry but I think all of these changes were pretty justified. Hydra Bob has been a little too good in that he made other 1 cost cards seem pointless with him in the meta and 1/4 is still a good card. I play scream and I think it’s a pretty justified fix considering the steal on power bug fix was fine and it’s only a 1 power reduction. Also I have never seen any top scream deck not run Spider-Man who got a huge buff so the deck as a whole seems pretty fair and powerful still. I also get the Luke Cage nerf because it makes you place him in the deck with purpose as supposed to having a very great tech card that is stated nicely. My only thing was US agent but this could be due to future/new cards like moonstone who could make this effect hurt more. The buffs to Mr. Fantastic, Hela, Kzar, onslaught, and Spidey were great so I like this OTA all in all.
This is a rare miss for you, Alex. The power drop for Scream maybe wasn’t needed, but fixing the interaction with Luke was much needed. If you can’t steal power from a card, you shouldn’t gain power. Luke’s nerf isn’t that bad either. His effect is still worth the price and helps C2. Hydration Robert also needed the power drop with his downside being more of a neutral. Playing him on top of Iron Patriot felt like cheating.
im sorry the luke cage nerf was literally predicted by Regis yesterday, card is a heavy design constraint shutting down entire archetypes when it comes down this is an entirely warranted change
how is it warranted? cage is one example of plenty of cards that 'shut down' archetypes lmao. you can look around Snap and see them for yourself, who is next, Mobius?
@ mobius is a niche tech card and has not seen competitive play in months, he is not nearly as universally applicable as Luke Cage and you know that i honestly cant tell which other cards youre referring to tho just imagine cards saying: “your cards/your opponent’s cards can’t be destroyed” or “your opponents cards cant be buffed”, these would be comparable to Cage’s effect
Alex, I really respect you, top 0.8% viewer on YT and sub on twitch. But your takes on this vid feels really off. Luke counters half of the meta, he is too easy of a solution to everything both proactively and defensively. usagent is strongest card out of toxic shell, it even was played in move shells and small ball decks like the one with havok just to be 4/7 at min. Bob was the best 1 cost card in the game for like 3 months at least. Was even one of the most effective cards in the game on a higher levels. Scream is sooo powerful on t2, deck wasn’t too crazy just because her supporting cast is shit and it is a bad design if deck feels really good but ONLY if you play the card scream. So this were the most logical changes in the patch, but you hated them the most, feels like we are playing a two different games almost( But I don’t like this OTA either, was hoping for interesting buffs rather than this lame nerfs.
I don’t disagree with the Bob take, however Bob is very similar to Lizard and Sunspot back in the day, he’s just good everywhere with no downside! Truthfully I think they shouldn’t have buffed him in the first place!
The changes to Scream and Spiderman I think are a buff to the archetype. Scream losing 1 power isn't a huge deal when she'd often reach 10+ effective power on a 2 cost. Meanwhile Spidey's change allows you to perhaps squeeze in one more proc on Kingpin or Kraven. So, Spidey and Scream lose of a total of 2 raw power, but let's say Kraven procs one additional time due to Spidey's reduced cost for +4 power. This is a net gain in total. If nothing else, displacing an enemy card with a 2 cost Spidey is significant.
Love your content Alex, but I think you're pretty far off on most of these Hydra Bob has been part of high-level top tier meta decks for months, not two weeks And Luke Cage is still OP and a major design problem at 3/2 Now, the USAgent nerf is MASSIVE, I'll give you that. Probably close to unplayable now
What I find funny about the US agent nerf was they used Luke Cage (the nerf they imposed) as a reason to nerf US Agent. Like what was said, people don’t care about the 2 power Luke Cage, his ability is just that good.
I believe that some of these changes were only 'necessary' because of the bad card acquisition. If bob was a 1/4 and usa agent had -3 effect from the begining but they were release as series 4 cards, they wouldve been perfectly fine. But since theyre series 5, they buffed them and became a "problem"
I actually just locked Scream in my shop the other day! But one point of power isn't a big deal if she still has the same effect and I want to have her in the Kingpin reverse move deck I already have for a bit of different fun
Me and my lady were getting a kick out of all of Alex’s reactions in this video. The Hydration Robert change I saw coming but that reaction I did not lol.
I felt like this was the most fair OTA we've seen in a long time, a few cards that were killed were given another chance and a few meta-dominant cards were nerfed. The Scream one feels worst just because the rest of the deck is garbage as they mentioned, if they are hitting Scream we need a lot more support for them still. Cards like Hydra Bob and USAgent weren't seen as "problems" maybe because no one owns them still, but the straight stats on those two cards is way too high for their cost.
Respectively, I love this patch. It’s simple and respectable. They’re doing some things that I think will do well in the long run and maintains some balance. It’s not perfect but it makes the game interesting for play.
The OTA is ok, I play a lot of Hydra Bob, 1/5 was very good. I got Scream a while ago, sad for the nerf but the Spiderman buff is good. Luke and USA Agent deserve the nerf, bc of the toxic decks (Anti venom, Ajax, Valentina, etc), the buffs are ok and the Hela rework looks more like a buff, people are winning with Hela. The main problem i see with the OTA is that remove this decks for the meta, but not Doom 99/Galacta decks or discard deck, these deck are EVERYWHERE. If this OTA come out before december, would be pretty good.
As a usagent enjoyer he was overpowered. Some games he could singlehandedly win a lane. As for bob didn't spend tokens on him because I knew a nerf was coming. Still good though.
Even if these weird changes are because of cards coming out in the future, that doesn't mean they need to change now. Or even at the new cards release. Just wait and give it time to breathe.
Luke Cage was obvious and most definitely on my bingo card. Find it weird how this surprised you tbh. Maybe its EU meta being different to NA but all I see in EU is Luke Cage 🤷♂️ Scream change isn't significant since she'll still delete me 9 times out of 10. Luke Cage is always a problem if I ever try to enjoy "Rocket and Groot", every lobby then I see Cage. Also anytime I play against Scream....I hated it. If I saw Kingpin or scream flip up I'd just sigh "ffs here we go again" The controversial changes to me are US Agent, Hela and Hydra Bob. Everything else here I'm fine with...just wish Fantastic got better buff tbh
The us agent one kinda makes sense though if you think about it. If your opponent manage to get 4 card in the 4-6 cost range each getting -4 power plus the 3 power it has that is basically a 2/19 which is an absurd stat line
But also remember, why he was buffed in the first place. Typically, you can only play a single 4, 5 and 6 cost card which usually have good power or ability already, so opponents wouldn't likely play all three cards in the same location. US Agent is also a card that affects both sides which required thoughtful low cost deck building or adding Luke cage.
@@LePatricKnewbrother, us agent came out 9 months ago. The cards and meta has completely shifted. Hes not unplayable, he'll still be played in anti venom ajax. He's very good for too long
This really does feel like a mid OTA. I still love the game and will give it a chance but I was hoping for something a bit more exciting. Thanks for calling it how you see it Alex.
Agreed with the USAgent, Alex. It's a change no one asked for and it just confuses me. I used USAgent to counter Doom 2099 when it was released and now they basically buffed him indirectly. And yeah If they're gonna nerf cards at least make a compensation system for the players. It feels detrimental knowing you spent 6k tokens just for it to get a nerf in a few weeks.
Respectfully, I think you may be overselling the impact of most of the nerfs. Hydration Bob had become the defacto 1-cost. Its statline is typically saved for cards with a major drawback but most players had discovered thats bobs ability was actually really useful. A 1/4 seems fine at this point. Being upset that Screams bug was fixed is a bit odd as well. If she "steals" power then she shouldnt be getting power if Luke Cage is down beforehand. That just makes sense. As for going from 2/3 to a 2/2 she'll stillnbe really good. If she's an auto win at 2/3 then maybe 2/2 wont be too shabby either. Luke Cage isn't played for his power but instead is played for his effect. While his stats were 3/3, if he saves a full lane from man thing he was a 3/11. He will continue to serve his role admirably.
Hi Alex, as a casual player that started playing since 2023, I woke up and i was super happy that Hydration Robert got nerfed. I can understand your frustration as a streamer and have the full collection. I had the card pinned for weeks but never committed because I didn’t like the flavour (it is boring imo), altho I kept losing to it. Overall, i like that they took every single archetype down a peg. I think it is good. If everything is brought down, nothing is really brought down. 😂 I am writing this because I want to add to the comments that are very positive on the OTA. My feelings might matter or it might not and that’s ok hahaha
Hydra bob was 💯 right. He’s a way better martyr The 1 power from scream and Luke cage is minimal and not going to have a major i,pact on their play. They both still do what they did before and that’s why they were played
This man is a full time teacher and a part-time youtuber and he still makes decks that get in the meta Top 10 and has the developers using his card names. If you became a full-time youtuber, you'd rule the game 😂.
The hela change promotes a lot of creativity and positive challenge in its deck building compared to previously, I absolutely love it. Although the hydration Robert change might of not been warranted, he was still so overstated so I dont mind it. However scream and usagent were in a perfectly healthy spot in the meta, they didn't need to be touched at all. The kazaar change is just too small to move the needle. They probably could and should of went higher if they really wanted to increase the deck's overall power.
Alex, love you, but in case of cards like USAgent and Bob, I think the case is that: the cards were not used, they buffed it, and now they corrected it. Now, the people know what to do with these cards, they don't need to be "overpowered" anymore.
Maybe im missing something but ion understand how taking one power off of luke cage is so bad. Yeah it was unnecessary but i dont think its really a big deal
Always happy to hear your takes, even if I disagree with most of them this time around. You're flat out wild for doubting the Hydra Bob nerf, though. Thanks for the great content as always.
I can FINALLY do traditional Hela discard again! I never liked "discarding big cards" and prefer traditional discard with Morbius and Blade and everyone with Hela as a finisher so this fits my playstyle a lot better! I took her out of my discard deck but I can try her again!❤ At least until Bullseye comes out in a couple days😂
100% agree with the scream nerf and fix. having it take power when you have Luke was insane. Also it was totally overpowered, just not many people have it.
Alex please, why are you lying? Hydra Bob playable for the last two weeks? Dude, he was playable since day 1. Why is Jeff so good at a 2/3 when Bob is bad at a 1/4? They buffed him to 1/5 and people instantly started playing him in every deck that needed a 1 drop. That was 9 days after release in July! He's been playable since July! He found his spot in the meta since JULY!
I don’t understand his outrage either, Luke, Hydra Bob and Us Agent has been the meta since Anti Venom season. I’m happy with the changes and I bought Bob with tokens.
@@andred5555I mean, he still doesn't seem to fully grasp the power of AntiVenom. He's probably gonna be shocked if they nerf/rework Luke Cage again, despite him holding back all of Afflict, and now Scream.
What do folks think about picking up Hydra Bob w tokens now? I’ve had him pinned for a couple weeks waiting for this OTA because I thought they would nerf him, but he still seems like he’s going to do the things he has been doing to help out midrange decks which are my favorite type of play. Interested in thoughts! Otherwise, I was expecting them to hit Luke at least a little since he’s so everywhere, glad they didn’t kill him.
OMG Mr. Fantastic is great in Silver Surfer now! I haven't used him since I started playing but I used Psylocke to go into Sera, Onslaught, Mystique and Mr. Fantastic along with Brood, Rescue and Silver Surfer for a big boost! 18 power each to 2 locations at once!😂
Thank You Alex! This is what my constant thoughts have been about. They are under powering older cards to make room for newer cards, fuels why we can’t ever catch up with new performing decks
Hydra Bob nerf is completely justified. SD shouldn't have buffed it to begin with. Buffing cards just to convince players to spend more resources is disingenuous. Release cards balance to begin with.
Nah Bob needed to be nerfed, only reason he wasn't everywhere was because people don't have him. At 1/5 with basically no downside that's just ridiculous. Scream is the only one here that I think was a bad change and agree with you there
imo two of these nurfs -( usagent , luke cage ) are made because of the new card " Moonstone " they are preparing against a potencial meta deck " double ongoing infliction " .
This is the plan that they keep saying they are planning when they talk about the "even bigger Series Drop" -which mean to trash them all before they drop. So expect more completely baffling changes from here on until the last day of Mar as they can't delay the drop any further. About Scream got nerfed/Fixed maybe to make way for next month Season pass a.k.a "Cap's Shield"
You’re 100 percent right. I am in the rare camp that loves move decks. Nerfing Scream really gives us no options if our deck is based around moving the other players card.
I also think most of these changes are pretty reasonable and make sense. I think it’s also worth remembering that sometime cards have to change for more than just pure meta stats. Sometimes a cards design limits future cards so they have to change it to make room for a future card. See the Luke cage nerf and I think it’s my guess on US agents nerf.
Still waiting for 5/8 Sersi lol. She has too much downside to be a 5/7. Expected Bob to be here because he's been THE one cost in most decks lately, which put me off buying. Wasn't expecting USAgent but not surprised either. Doesn't sound that bad because he's still a minimum 2/6 but I'll have to play with him. Hated Scream so happy to see her go and I'd prefer the 2/2 Luke again because a 3/2 looks horrible. Glad RG isnt a 50/50 anymore though. Speaking of, somewhat expected him to be nerfed
The Scream fix is what the game needed. A consistent mechanic for all cards to work the same. They thought about how the steal mechanic should work with Rocket&Groot and streamlined it. That´s a good thing. Why Scream lost 1 power in addition, i can not understand. It never felt, the one power made a difference, because scream poped off or was useless because of counters like Red Guardian or luke Cage. The Spiderman buff is great, so newer player can play him and he has not to fight for a 3 mana slot, in wich there are very good cards now. I´m with you by USAgend, I bought him with tokens as a Doom2099 and Surtur counter card, just as a tech piece... Kazar would feel better as a 3 cost to curve better.
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Honestly, the best part about this OTA is the official patch notes for the game calling the card Hydration Robert.
Lmao they did!
"That's so cool!", I would say if I wouldn't get hit instantly by the feeling that someone wants to sneak into our close circle of trust on the back of a highly appreciated community member.
Did the devs get that from Alex? I noticed that abs immediately thought... sd watches the snap chat!
Hydra bob needed a nerf , its like a mandatory 1 cost card for all top decks without a real issue like martyr or titania... I agree on that one.
I dont think the power reduction for Luke is that bad. His on going ability is what 90% of people using him for, not his power.
C2 enjoyers when 2 power luke cage:
Makes him easier to hit with Red Guardian now.
@@colmhayes7750 Kinda surprised RG didn't get hit.
Yeah he could be a 3/0 and still get played
@@incarnate1 Red Guardian is kind of like Shang Chi, one of the only cards in the game that keep completely broken decks from running rampant.
Lmao they even called him hydration Robert
Alex I don’t know if you read these, but while Martyr is a 1/5 that actively tries to lose you the game, hydra Bob that has lane move on snap which is a benefit, cannot also be a 1/5. Now if you want to make martyr a 0/3 that is interesting but there’s your reason
Yeah that’s a pretty good point!
@@AlexanderCoccia The solution to Martyr is to make him 1/6 not to nerf bob to 1/4. You don't make a card good by making every competitor worse.
@@andreicezarrusu4616 ok, but they are doing what you describe as the solution. Hydra bob being the best 1 drop is the problem, not martyr being equal to him.
I disagree. Bob was far and away the best vanilla one drop. Card game players will always search for strong plug and play best in cost options, and we will just gravitate to whatever next card "is the best". Bob was too good, and was in literally every "good stuff" deck, and even some other decks he didn't really fit in. That's how you know he was too good, and I think it was perfectly reasonable to bring him down slightly. Alex is just upset because he likes the card because it's strong.
Literally the card acquisition system is still the issue here. Notice his main complaint is "to everyone who spent 6k tokens on this card". Devs should be able to tweak cards as they feel necessary based on data and not feel bad about it. But the fact that these cards are so hard to get (and replacements may not be owned) is the real reason nerfs to generic, go in every deck, good cards feels so bad
Alex, Hydra Bob has been in virtually every top deck since about a week or two since it was in spotlights and buffed to 1/5 last second back in July. Obviously frustrating for people who recently spent 6k tokens on him, but I don't agree at all that he's "found his home" in the last 2 weeks.
lol no he hasn't. it's literally been the KMBest movement to play him and it's been like a month, certainly not since it was in spotlights.
Lol at is been like a month. Go look at any of his top decks videos from 2, 3 or 4 months ago and you'll find him in multiple lists in each one
@@h445 I mean, I guess you're not really paying much attention either. He's been the standard 1 drop the entire 2nd half of 2024. He's only become more popular as more people have gotten tired of him not returning to spotlights and just buying him with tokens.
Since july? Im top 50. He has been used a lot by the top 0.1% for 2 months max, goon knight and ajax decks being his first home. Like 1 month for the rest of users. Clueless. You cant name a meta home for him since july, there wasnt one
@@Defaultuseraccount Congrats to you! Cool flex I guess. Maybe July (when he was released) was an exaggeration, but "2 months max" is also not true at all. Alex has Hydra Bob in top decks dating back to September in his videos, and KMB was showcasing decks with Bob even prior to that.
I feel quite different from you on this one. Hydro Bob was an auto-include for those few that owned him, so much so that it was starting to be on every top list lately. 1-4 is still incredibly strong, so those that own him will survive. Scream's deck has hardly been changed from reading these patch notes; if anything, the reduction in Luke Cage probably makes it more viable now than it was before. As much as I used to love Luke Cage, I welcome a reduction of his extremely powerful effect nullifying many decks carte blanche.
I locked Scream in my shop so 1 power isn't much different and I'll still spend tokens on her
Hydra Bob justified, goes in every deck that doesn't require synergy.
Now it goes in none...
I called this week's ago.. glad I didn't burn any resources. sd strikes again
Luke cage not being on your bingo card is a bit worrying haha. He was being played in curve out decks. Though this one power loss does pretty much nothing. He needs to be less global. Only affecting afflict from hostile sources or just one lane.
I see two ways of adjusting him where he isn’t just a that ain’t happening card.
1. He only affects cards played after him.
2. He takes the affliction onto himself.
@@source3nergy203 great ideas, you could also make him protect only adjacent lanes
@@filux7329 give him the Mr. F and Ms. M treatment
The patch notes mentioned hes wearing too many hats, so expect his ability to be broken up into multiple cards
@source3nergy203 that or limit the negative that he can null till 10 for example. Anything above is still afflicted
Something notable about this OTA is every buff was for a series 1-3 card and every nerf was for a series 4 or 5 card
This new version of Hela also likes discarding Death even more than the previous version did, since Death has a completely unique cost. Arishem does, too, but, uh, Arishem Hela sounds like *quite* the pile.
I can FINALLY do traditional Hela discard again! I never liked "discarding big cards" and prefer traditional discard with Morbius and Blade and everyone with Hela as a finisher so this fits my playstyle a lot better! I took her out of my discard deck but I can try her again!❤ At least until Bullseye comes out in a couple days😂
You are the only person I've seen that's mad about the Hydra bob nerf
Cos he plays him ALL the time
You can add me that makes two
I’m actually very surprised on some of your takes here. If you look at a 1-5 with barely a downside it’s just way too strong , goes in every deck, and how could he not be nerfed is silver sable was? Luke cages effect for a 3 cost is way too strong. He single handedly ruins steal and afflict cards. I love USA agent, but he hits one card he’s a 2/7. I do think scream could have stayed a 2-3 though, especially by fixing the steal interaction.
Disagree with your bob take. Bob being a 5 power with upside when other 1 drops like rocket and titania require so much more just makes him an auto include into most decks because there is no downside to running him. Almost every top deck in the past couple of months that had space for a 1 drop was running Bob after silver sable got nerfed. SD should have never buffed him with 2 hours left on the clock in the first place but thats besides the point.
Luke Cage: Your cards can't have their power reduced unless the devs get bored.
Mr Fantastic as the leader of the Fantastic Four, should be a 4/0 that gives +4 power either side.
Officially killing Mrs Marvel given that this version of Mr Fastastic can also be played in negative and Ravonna, game balance is tough for this game, I feel like this ota is kinda throwing shit at the wall to see if some of these fixes are actually good for the game
I had the same thought: keep the 4s rolling!!
Screw Mrs. Marvel!!
Dont ever let bro cook again
@ As you know you can change more than 1 card at a time, so the first point is kind of mute and Mr F is a much bigger name in the MU than Ms. M. It could be, and can easily be targeted by tech cards. I wouldn't really worry about it actually happening, its was a quick joke about him and the number 4, since he's part of the Fantastic... 4. That's it, that's as much thought that went into it. Regarding the OTA, I didn't really mention that, so yeah. I agree, what ever.
Alex, I think the Luke Cage nerf is a top meta thing. Luke is in literally everything, way too good offensively, and completely invalidates entire decks defensively.
I think so. Im not "top meta", but i run luke, Valentina, and anti venom in quite a few decks. He makes Valentina good, anti venom incredible, and as a bonus he negates rocket & groot, the entire afflict archetype, and can straight up win an odd location here or there.
not to mention, in casual play, he ruins the release week of every new card using affliction. like, yeah it happens to other new cards, but luke just prevents any fun entirely
@@icenovice well to me 'fun' isn't having all of my cards have 10 -1 tokens lmao, so i think he's quite fun.
The issue isn't specifically that he's top meta, it's that affliction is strong as fuck and not only is he's literally the only card that shuts it down, he literally insta wins affliction matchups lol
Bull
00:31 take them out behind the shed and WHAT?!
You heard the man 😂😂😂
Hell yeah that's how Canada does it
Interesting, I agreed with every single one of the changes. Surprised you didn’t see a LC debuff coming, seemed inevitable to me. LC is retroactive and global in a way no other tech card is. Then they were about to make him protect against scream too.
Scream is a bit OP with +4 swing every time she moves my cards, which is already frustrating to deal with and almost impossible to stop.
Hydro Bob was in a ridiculous amount of top decks and 1/4 already gives you priority most games playing on T1.
And I thought US Agent was too OP as well, up to -16 for a 2 drop?
Bob has been one of the best cards in the game for a very long time.
the US Agent change is such a huge nerf; one of the only few counters to big stat decks for smaller costed decks. Such a shame as I loved the design of the card.
It used to be a -3 on release! And it sucked! So now it’s just back it’s crappy version 😢😢😢
Stupid change literally the stats that made the card dog doo doo to begin with they make no sense.
They successfully scammed all of us outta our tokens/keys we used to get him cause he is literally what he released as.
About done with this game.
It's amazing how the developers of this game fumble every single time, they had every chance to make good changes
@ yea I agree. Just non-stop fumbles!! Crap OTA… reverted cards back to their crap version… and oh yea let’s make sentry better… seriously wtf???
I think you're overreaching to some of these changes, I like the patch in general
Scream: My favorite card because cards that move things are my favorite cards. When I use the decks I use with Scream I am almost never winning or losing due to one power on Scream, my problems come from a lot of often less powerful cards being used with her or bad luck with card draws combined with the costs of many cards used with her leaving few options if you don't get lucky early.
Spiderman: Buff sounds great and like it will probably fix a frequent problem I have with Scream decks where I frequently needed something to be discounted if I didn't get that ideal Kingpin, Scream, Spiderman/Polaris, etc playline. Now I can Spiderman and Kingpin on 3, or Scream/Kraven and Spiderman on 4, Spiderman and Polaris on five if I don't have or want to use Aero, etc.
Luke Cage: One of the worst cards in the game. Nothing should be shutting down multiple opponent deck types, powering multiple deck types like Hela (well not now), afflicting all cards, Anti-Venom, Valentina, now stopping Scream and Rocket and Groot, and stopping more random use cards like US Agent just by throwing him down wherever and whenever on top of negating the negative effect of a variety of locations. Can be dropped as a surprise cube stealing win condition. Any nerfs he gets are good and if anything he needs to go back to protecting one lane. He is doing way too much and no thought stopping way too many deck archetypes and he is the exact kind of card that gets made early and as a game goes on designers have to constantly look back on as something stopping them from doing more interesting things with future cards.
US Agent: Seems like a fine change for something that can be doing quite a bit for a low cost, even more so with the increased frequency of good four drops being released. Seeing less Luke Cage will be a bigger buff for him.
Kazar: I play a lot of zoo, he was cut a long time ago for Marvel Boy and relevant tech cards like Red Guardian, seems to be obviously needed and more so with his low play and winrate. I think he should have been made a three cost and likely power lowered though, have him as a different or more easy to use option with Marvel Boy and let him work with Moonstone or dropped at the end with Mystique, but I'll take the one power if nothing else.
Hydra Bob: Absolutely needed. If people had him and knew what they were doing they used him. He was in near every deck shown by players like KM, and being a 1/4 with a more often upside if you know what you are doing or have a deck where it directly benefits it him at a 1/4 still makes him one of the best one drops to just throw in any random deck and a 1 drop you would use in the decks built more towards his ability like a lot of other one drops are. Probably will continue to be used in the better decks that used him.
Sentry: A good change. The text on the picture should also say -9 for void.
Onslaught: Nice to see, had no idea his winrate was that low.
Mister Fantastic: Finally a good change to him and in time where Moonstone can work with him, I suppose the buffed Onslaught as well. Like you said not doing Ms Marvel any favors but a good change.
Hela: Interesting, and somewhat confusingly worded to start with.
I think he is right thought they should have buffed some of the other cards in that archetype especially now that Luke cage does what he does.
I think this patch is awesome, not sure why you think it's mid.
Scream deserved a nerf - she's just too powerful. But I agree, buffing Kingpin could compensate for this nerf, while Spiderman just can't.
Luke Cage is limiting design space. He's protecting you from affliction, no matter how many damage it deals to you, also he helps you with your own affliction. It does it across the board. The problem with "he has counters" is that you can play him on the last turn of the game and it doesn't even matter where you play him, so it's hard to snipe it with alioth/rogue/enchatress etc.
USAgent and Hydration Robert. Those cards definitely overperform and deserved a nerf. It looks like the only agrument that those nerf are bad, because people spent tokens on them. I don't think we need unhealthy meta just because of the economy. Also "Hydra Bob is not a problem, because we have killmonger as a counter", I simply don't agree with this take. Having counter to something doesn't mean you can make busted cards (let's make Hydra Bob 1/100, because he has a counter).
I think you're 100% right about Scream. And that doesn't even account for the fact they also "fixed" a bug with the card.
Another thing about this OTA is pulling power from Luke Cage and USAgent both at the same time they're wanting us to use those cards (among a few others) to get a whole lot of wins is really frustrating timing-wise.
I completely agree with what you said about nerfing Ajax instead of US Agent Alex, but I think US agent also needed that nerf because he is actually being played in many other decks outside of toxic with a 12% meta share. I tend to find him pretty frustrating at times since he can be an easy 2/7 in a Wiccan deck.
I kinda agree with Hydra Bob nerf, with lots of 1/5 have drawbacks, I found that his effect is actually good to have 1/5 that move, it gives 1/5 to be an option again (Martyr, Victoria), Bob "drawback" does not compare with Martyr and Victoria in 1/5.
I asked for US Agent to be nerfed back to his -3 rather than -4. All of the other 2 drops that can be 2/19 or 2/15 are played early and scale throughout the game face up. US Agent drops on T6 with absolutely no counterplay available.
Even if you do have a rogue in your deck, rogueing US Agent does not change his affect being applied to the lane. Red Guardian is your only answer, and its very easy to negative power bring a different card below US Agent’s 3 power in the lane if you are not playing him on the final turn.
With his complete lack of counterplay his power should be curved down
Also Hydration Robert needed to be nerfed. 1/5 upside is a crazy statline. He has been a core component of a lot of lists for a long time.
"It feels like the OTA are a lot of changes for changes sake" I feel that has been the case more often than I care for. Like there doesn't HAVE to be crazy balance changes so often, let the meta chill out for a while. I dunno, just my opinion but there have been SO many headscratchers
I will actually disagree there. One of the biggest strengths when it comes to player retention that this game has is a constantly shifting meta. While not all these changes are bangers, some of the most excitement older players get is seeing a card that they already own get changed, making them excited to play that card.
Luke Cage has been meta for like a month and I'm kinda sick of it because I don't have USAGENT, Ajax, etc.
Same with hydration Robert. He deserved that
@@Unibot47 is been chill for a month now wym
move bounce has been meta for 8 OTAs, Iron Patriot has a near 60% win rate, no changes to wiccan or anti-venom or trad discard or agent venom.....
I am sorry but I think all of these changes were pretty justified. Hydra Bob has been a little too good in that he made other 1 cost cards seem pointless with him in the meta and 1/4 is still a good card. I play scream and I think it’s a pretty justified fix considering the steal on power bug fix was fine and it’s only a 1 power reduction. Also I have never seen any top scream deck not run Spider-Man who got a huge buff so the deck as a whole seems pretty fair and powerful still. I also get the Luke Cage nerf because it makes you place him in the deck with purpose as supposed to having a very great tech card that is stated nicely. My only thing was US agent but this could be due to future/new cards like moonstone who could make this effect hurt more. The buffs to Mr. Fantastic, Hela, Kzar, onslaught, and Spidey were great so I like this OTA all in all.
This is a rare miss for you, Alex. The power drop for Scream maybe wasn’t needed, but fixing the interaction with Luke was much needed. If you can’t steal power from a card, you shouldn’t gain power.
Luke’s nerf isn’t that bad either. His effect is still worth the price and helps C2.
Hydration Robert also needed the power drop with his downside being more of a neutral. Playing him on top of Iron Patriot felt like cheating.
I bought Hydration Robert 3 days ago. I can't be mad because I knew it'd be nerfed.
I was complaining about Scream :P. Those decks are annoying AF and I won't lose any sleep seeing it nerfed.
im sorry the luke cage nerf was literally predicted by Regis yesterday, card is a heavy design constraint shutting down entire archetypes when it comes down
this is an entirely warranted change
how is it warranted? cage is one example of plenty of cards that 'shut down' archetypes lmao. you can look around Snap and see them for yourself, who is next, Mobius?
@ mobius is a niche tech card and has not seen competitive play in months, he is not nearly as universally applicable as Luke Cage and you know that
i honestly cant tell which other cards youre referring to tho
just imagine cards saying: “your cards/your opponent’s cards can’t be destroyed” or “your opponents cards cant be buffed”, these would be comparable to Cage’s effect
“Took them long enough to touch him (Mr Fantastic)” wonder why (looks at MCU movie coming)
I have been on the fence on buying Hydration Robert for the last week. Looks like Second Dinner made the decision easy for me.
Alex, I really respect you, top 0.8% viewer on YT and sub on twitch. But your takes on this vid feels really off. Luke counters half of the meta, he is too easy of a solution to everything both proactively and defensively. usagent is strongest card out of toxic shell, it even was played in move shells and small ball decks like the one with havok just to be 4/7 at min. Bob was the best 1 cost card in the game for like 3 months at least. Was even one of the most effective cards in the game on a higher levels. Scream is sooo powerful on t2, deck wasn’t too crazy just because her supporting cast is shit and it is a bad design if deck feels really good but ONLY if you play the card scream. So this were the most logical changes in the patch, but you hated them the most, feels like we are playing a two different games almost(
But I don’t like this OTA either, was hoping for interesting buffs rather than this lame nerfs.
I appreciate your perspective 🙏
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Really level-headed take i 100% agree with it
I don’t disagree with the Bob take, however Bob is very similar to Lizard and Sunspot back in the day, he’s just good everywhere with no downside! Truthfully I think they shouldn’t have buffed him in the first place!
The initial buff was greedy for sure.
The changes to Scream and Spiderman I think are a buff to the archetype. Scream losing 1 power isn't a huge deal when she'd often reach 10+ effective power on a 2 cost. Meanwhile Spidey's change allows you to perhaps squeeze in one more proc on Kingpin or Kraven. So, Spidey and Scream lose of a total of 2 raw power, but let's say Kraven procs one additional time due to Spidey's reduced cost for +4 power. This is a net gain in total. If nothing else, displacing an enemy card with a 2 cost Spidey is significant.
Yeah I'm loving this Spidey change
But…. I loved spidey in my c5 move deck!
At least Luke Cage is back in C2
And hydration Bobert is gone from C5 too 😢
Exactly or let’s you play kraven or kingpin at all if you drew them late
But Scream can now be countered by Luke Cage. That‘s what‘s bad.
Love your content Alex, but I think you're pretty far off on most of these
Hydra Bob has been part of high-level top tier meta decks for months, not two weeks
And Luke Cage is still OP and a major design problem at 3/2
Now, the USAgent nerf is MASSIVE, I'll give you that. Probably close to unplayable now
What I find funny about the US agent nerf was they used Luke Cage (the nerf they imposed) as a reason to nerf US Agent. Like what was said, people don’t care about the 2 power Luke Cage, his ability is just that good.
I love this OTA. i literally like every single change
I believe that some of these changes were only 'necessary' because of the bad card acquisition. If bob was a 1/4 and usa agent had -3 effect from the begining but they were release as series 4 cards, they wouldve been perfectly fine. But since theyre series 5, they buffed them and became a "problem"
I actually just locked Scream in my shop the other day! But one point of power isn't a big deal if she still has the same effect and I want to have her in the Kingpin reverse move deck I already have for a bit of different fun
Debatable that it has the same effect since they changed a "bug" so now Luke Cage completely kills her.
Me and my lady were getting a kick out of all of Alex’s reactions in this video. The Hydration Robert change I saw coming but that reaction I did not lol.
I felt like this was the most fair OTA we've seen in a long time, a few cards that were killed were given another chance and a few meta-dominant cards were nerfed. The Scream one feels worst just because the rest of the deck is garbage as they mentioned, if they are hitting Scream we need a lot more support for them still. Cards like Hydra Bob and USAgent weren't seen as "problems" maybe because no one owns them still, but the straight stats on those two cards is way too high for their cost.
Respectively, I love this patch. It’s simple and respectable. They’re doing some things that I think will do well in the long run and maintains some balance. It’s not perfect but it makes the game interesting for play.
The OTA is ok, I play a lot of Hydra Bob, 1/5 was very good. I got Scream a while ago, sad for the nerf but the Spiderman buff is good. Luke and USA Agent deserve the nerf, bc of the toxic decks (Anti venom, Ajax, Valentina, etc), the buffs are ok and the Hela rework looks more like a buff, people are winning with Hela. The main problem i see with the OTA is that remove this decks for the meta, but not Doom 99/Galacta decks or discard deck, these deck are EVERYWHERE. If this OTA come out before december, would be pretty good.
I kinda like this Ota a decent bunch
Feels like most the changes are good ones
Ah yes, i enjoy the tears of USAgent and bob enjoyers
wow lol, look at the jelly on this wall licker
As a usagent enjoyer he was overpowered. Some games he could singlehandedly win a lane.
As for bob didn't spend tokens on him because I knew a nerf was coming. Still good though.
Even if these weird changes are because of cards coming out in the future, that doesn't mean they need to change now. Or even at the new cards release. Just wait and give it time to breathe.
I hope the Hydration Robert nerf means I can start seeing some deck builds that don’t include him, Christ talk about over-saturation
Luke Cage was obvious and most definitely on my bingo card. Find it weird how this surprised you tbh. Maybe its EU meta being different to NA but all I see in EU is Luke Cage 🤷♂️
Scream change isn't significant since she'll still delete me 9 times out of 10.
Luke Cage is always a problem if I ever try to enjoy "Rocket and Groot", every lobby then I see Cage.
Also anytime I play against Scream....I hated it. If I saw Kingpin or scream flip up I'd just sigh "ffs here we go again"
The controversial changes to me are US Agent, Hela and Hydra Bob. Everything else here I'm fine with...just wish Fantastic got better buff tbh
The us agent one kinda makes sense though if you think about it. If your opponent manage to get 4 card in the 4-6 cost range each getting -4 power plus the 3 power it has that is basically a 2/19 which is an absurd stat line
But also remember, why he was buffed in the first place. Typically, you can only play a single 4, 5 and 6 cost card which usually have good power or ability already, so opponents wouldn't likely play all three cards in the same location. US Agent is also a card that affects both sides which required thoughtful low cost deck building or adding Luke cage.
@@LePatricKnewhe was buffed because stats on him werent good at the time. Times have changed tho
@@LePatricKnewbrother, us agent came out 9 months ago. The cards and meta has completely shifted. Hes not unplayable, he'll still be played in anti venom ajax. He's very good for too long
This really does feel like a mid OTA. I still love the game and will give it a chance but I was hoping for something a bit more exciting. Thanks for calling it how you see it Alex.
Agreed with the USAgent, Alex. It's a change no one asked for and it just confuses me. I used USAgent to counter Doom 2099 when it was released and now they basically buffed him indirectly.
And yeah If they're gonna nerf cards at least make a compensation system for the players. It feels detrimental knowing you spent 6k tokens just for it to get a nerf in a few weeks.
Respectfully, I think you may be overselling the impact of most of the nerfs.
Hydration Bob had become the defacto 1-cost. Its statline is typically saved for cards with a major drawback but most players had discovered thats bobs ability was actually really useful. A 1/4 seems fine at this point.
Being upset that Screams bug was fixed is a bit odd as well. If she "steals" power then she shouldnt be getting power if Luke Cage is down beforehand. That just makes sense. As for going from 2/3 to a 2/2 she'll stillnbe really good. If she's an auto win at 2/3 then maybe 2/2 wont be too shabby either.
Luke Cage isn't played for his power but instead is played for his effect. While his stats were 3/3, if he saves a full lane from man thing he was a 3/11. He will continue to serve his role admirably.
I've been complaining about Scream lol. If it drops early and you don't have Red G. its a wrap. i'm curious about Hella lol. The others seem ok to me.
Same. She's just too strong and feels horrible to play against
This, especially at lower ranks. Scream has been the ONLY card I have actually disliked playing against.
Who was complaining about Scream decks. Me, I hate going against scream decks. I didn't complain online. But I really hate the deck
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Bob doesn't "start to make decks", Bob is in EVERY deck. And it's not normal. This dude deserved a nerf.
scream was born into two back to back funerals for herself.
Hi Alex, as a casual player that started playing since 2023, I woke up and i was super happy that Hydration Robert got nerfed.
I can understand your frustration as a streamer and have the full collection.
I had the card pinned for weeks but never committed because I didn’t like the flavour (it is boring imo), altho I kept losing to it.
Overall, i like that they took every single archetype down a peg. I think it is good. If everything is brought down, nothing is really brought down. 😂
I am writing this because I want to add to the comments that are very positive on the OTA. My feelings might matter or it might not and that’s ok hahaha
It's always good to see a variety of opinions about an OTA, and I appreciate you sharing your perspective!
Hydra bob was 💯 right. He’s a way better martyr
The 1 power from scream and Luke cage is minimal and not going to have a major i,pact on their play. They both still do what they did before and that’s why they were played
This man is a full time teacher and a part-time youtuber and he still makes decks that get in the meta Top 10 and has the developers using his card names. If you became a full-time youtuber, you'd rule the game 😂.
The hela change promotes a lot of creativity and positive challenge in its deck building compared to previously, I absolutely love it.
Although the hydration Robert change might of not been warranted, he was still so overstated so I dont mind it. However scream and usagent were in a perfectly healthy spot in the meta, they didn't need to be touched at all.
The kazaar change is just too small to move the needle. They probably could and should of went higher if they really wanted to increase the deck's overall power.
Alex, love you, but in case of cards like USAgent and Bob, I think the case is that: the cards were not used, they buffed it, and now they corrected it. Now, the people know what to do with these cards, they don't need to be "overpowered" anymore.
Bro, Bob has been in every surprise meta deck for MONTHS
love you alex but it feels like you're stoking the flames
Maybe im missing something but ion understand how taking one power off of luke cage is so bad. Yeah it was unnecessary but i dont think its really a big deal
Thank you for still doing snap content post rivals launch
Always happy to hear your takes, even if I disagree with most of them this time around. You're flat out wild for doubting the Hydra Bob nerf, though. Thanks for the great content as always.
I can FINALLY do traditional Hela discard again! I never liked "discarding big cards" and prefer traditional discard with Morbius and Blade and everyone with Hela as a finisher so this fits my playstyle a lot better! I took her out of my discard deck but I can try her again!❤ At least until Bullseye comes out in a couple days😂
I am the one complaining about scream, card is toxic as hell
The Hela and Mr. Fantastic buffs are great though! They actually made them viable and fun to play again!
100% agree with the scream nerf and fix. having it take power when you have Luke was insane. Also it was totally overpowered, just not many people have it.
Alex please, why are you lying? Hydra Bob playable for the last two weeks? Dude, he was playable since day 1. Why is Jeff so good at a 2/3 when Bob is bad at a 1/4? They buffed him to 1/5 and people instantly started playing him in every deck that needed a 1 drop. That was 9 days after release in July! He's been playable since July! He found his spot in the meta since JULY!
I don’t understand his outrage either, Luke, Hydra Bob and Us Agent has been the meta since Anti Venom season. I’m happy with the changes and I bought Bob with tokens.
@@andred5555I mean, he still doesn't seem to fully grasp the power of AntiVenom. He's probably gonna be shocked if they nerf/rework Luke Cage again, despite him holding back all of Afflict, and now Scream.
i swear they nerf 2 cards i was holding my resources for... Scream and hydra bob lol... idk what to do
Wow. Alex isn't even disappointed anymore, he's bordering on mad. I feel ya though man. Head scratching stuff here.
What do folks think about picking up Hydra Bob w tokens now? I’ve had him pinned for a couple weeks waiting for this OTA because I thought they would nerf him, but he still seems like he’s going to do the things he has been doing to help out midrange decks which are my favorite type of play. Interested in thoughts! Otherwise, I was expecting them to hit Luke at least a little since he’s so everywhere, glad they didn’t kill him.
Slaty Alex mad that half of his decks got nerfed
Spiderman 2099 deserved the buff
The solve for Luke Cage is: cards in adjacent locations can't have their power reduced.
We all feel Alex’s sadness with these changes
OMG Mr. Fantastic is great in Silver Surfer now! I haven't used him since I started playing but I used Psylocke to go into Sera, Onslaught, Mystique and Mr. Fantastic along with Brood, Rescue and Silver Surfer for a big boost! 18 power each to 2 locations at once!😂
I disagree on many things here. Hydrabob was a busted card. Luke was well.
Thank You Alex! This is what my constant thoughts have been about. They are under powering older cards to make room for newer cards, fuels why we can’t ever catch up with new performing decks
Hydra Bob nerf is completely justified. SD shouldn't have buffed it to begin with. Buffing cards just to convince players to spend more resources is disingenuous. Release cards balance to begin with.
I think the Luke cage change is for when that new card comes out that benefits from toxic, I forgot the name but seems kinda cracked
Nah Bob needed to be nerfed, only reason he wasn't everywhere was because people don't have him. At 1/5 with basically no downside that's just ridiculous. Scream is the only one here that I think was a bad change and agree with you there
imo two of these nurfs -( usagent , luke cage ) are made because of the new card " Moonstone " they are preparing against a potencial meta deck " double ongoing infliction " .
1 point of power off luke cage doesnt matter, he's sitll super good
This is the plan that they keep saying they are planning when they talk about the "even bigger Series Drop" -which mean to trash them all before they drop.
So expect more completely baffling changes from here on until the last day of Mar as they can't delay the drop any further.
About Scream got nerfed/Fixed maybe to make way for next month Season pass a.k.a "Cap's Shield"
You’re 100 percent right. I am in the rare camp that loves move decks. Nerfing Scream really gives us no options if our deck is based around moving the other players card.
I’m in the opposite camp lol, I think a lot of these changes were needed imo
I am gonna say I am not mad about the ota and personally I find the nerfs and buffs to be ok.
I also think most of these changes are pretty reasonable and make sense. I think it’s also worth remembering that sometime cards have to change for more than just pure meta stats. Sometimes a cards design limits future cards so they have to change it to make room for a future card. See the Luke cage nerf and I think it’s my guess on US agents nerf.
Let’s just make Doom 2099 that much better by nerfing US Agent, jeez
i play scream and this is a buff for the deck, 1 point for the card is not a big deal when it gets to 7-9 overall
Hydra Bob is a 1/5 with bas8cally no drawback.i understand this change, but I agree the timing is crap
Still waiting for 5/8 Sersi lol. She has too much downside to be a 5/7.
Expected Bob to be here because he's been THE one cost in most decks lately, which put me off buying.
Wasn't expecting USAgent but not surprised either. Doesn't sound that bad because he's still a minimum 2/6 but I'll have to play with him.
Hated Scream so happy to see her go and I'd prefer the 2/2 Luke again because a 3/2 looks horrible. Glad RG isnt a 50/50 anymore though. Speaking of, somewhat expected him to be nerfed
The Scream fix is what the game needed. A consistent mechanic for all cards to work the same. They thought about how the steal mechanic should work with Rocket&Groot and streamlined it. That´s a good thing.
Why Scream lost 1 power in addition, i can not understand. It never felt, the one power made a difference, because scream poped off or was useless because of counters like Red Guardian or luke Cage.
The Spiderman buff is great, so newer player can play him and he has not to fight for a 3 mana slot, in wich there are very good cards now.
I´m with you by USAgend, I bought him with tokens as a Doom2099 and Surtur counter card, just as a tech piece...
Kazar would feel better as a 3 cost to curve better.
Luke going back to a 2/1 at this rate lol