What No One Tells You About Grom Clones
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- Опубліковано 17 січ 2021
- There are a lot of misconceptions about grom clones, and in this video I tell you what they are.
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2003 Yamaha YZ250
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Where’s my clone gang at??
@@jbklacc what’s it called I’m in
Here!
@@BrapGenius NYC mini motorcycle squad... first ride is in March...
@@jbklacc I can’t find it
Brooo yes I got this bike on Monday it's now Saturday and the first day taking it home stalling.. not shifting proper. Now I did find out you must swap the shifter with a klx110 or a grom one. Have t done so yet. But the stalling is obviously the gas cap.. I took off the left side fairing and I saw a pinched hose I believe was the carb or the fuel line. That helped a bit since it's for gas. But got on here on one of these videos and someone stated it's the gas cap. CA emissions need to be passed. So I'm Def checking that out tomorrow
summary of 8 minute video: The bike is good but needs a new carb.
Thanks thinking about getting one of these
Right. Starts by saying “you know what it is”. I legit do not know what it is lol. And says “what nobody talks about”, and it’s legit what everyone talks about 😂
Great video man, you really nailed it! As part of clone army, and as a UA-camr that makes Grom clone videos too, you have it spot on. The community is definitely one of the most helpful I've ever seen for any vehicle. Keep up the work man!
Ayeee we out here!!! #clonearmy
Can someone tell me if the Motrac bikes are good or not?
Describe it in details if you have any experience with it or know something about it.
I get what you're saying, people say they're crap but with a few upgrades and maintenance it's good. I wouldn't spend 3500 on a Grom I'd get a real bike for that. 1200 is a different story. Plus I want to work on it that's why I ordered one to learn how to work on bikes
My thoughts exactly. I wouldn’t pay $3,500 for a grom but for a clone that I can beat the crap out of and have a blast hell yeah
Exactly my.brother. I did the same thing. My first bike was the rocket and man I need to shift gears but also learn wheelies aswell. I can't wait. Need a carb swap asap and new jets
Beautifully put.👏
Our shop just picked up the CF moto motorcycle line and we just got in their Papio 125. 6 speed, EFI and honestly their bikes are really good quality. We've been selling CF's ATV's for years and they've been pretty solid, and the motorcycles seem the same. I haven't ridden a Grom, but took a papio out for it's run in ride and it's damn capable. I'm really glad to hear there's already a big network for small bikes (years ago i was involved with the classic scooter scene, Vespa and Lambretta) so I know how great a good network is. I ride my share of big bikes, but small machines are a blast, often funner than a larger bike that takes more attention. You're very right about it being more fun to ride a small bike fast rather than a big bike slow!
Yeah man I’m glad they have these cause it’s such a great bang for your buck it makes it worth it. Then it lets you realize how much fun they are
Great video! Thanks for sharing and the insight. Also thanks for the ride. You really nailed it all in one word…. FUN!! We all need more of that these day. 🤙🏻 keep on riding 😎
Heck ya man glad you liked the video!!
The community is so awesome and everybody will help out all your answers and questions
Agreed
I picked up a Papio last week and love the thing. I'm really surprised at the quality for the price. I kept waiting for a Honda that never seemed to come in, so I ended up trying the Papio. I'm so happy that I did.
I actually get a lot of respect from the guys I work with who ride big bikes.
That’s awesome man
The sarcasm is strong with this one.
They are reliable. I rode mine from Las Vegas, NV to St.Augustine, FL
The only issue I had was that I laid the bike out from hitting some gravel in AZ and had to use a pair of vise-grips for my brake handle the rest of the way home 😅 5:57
Sheshhh
I love mine! Thanks for the recognition !! Clone army /society!! Rep hard!
We out here!!
@@BrapGenius send some of those subs my way jeez man!! Haha 😂 great content tho brotha
I had a 1977 Honda Express 49cc I was able to get it go 50mph. I did it by using trick fuel 110 octane. Learned how to rebuild engines fast!
Shesshhhh
I have a 2022 150cc Rps Condor Grom clone and ride with a group of Groms. Haven't done any mods yet other than the tail light. It's slightly bigger and top speed is a lot faster. For the price of a Grom I can buy 2 of mine. Their absolutely fun and you can do all the mods that you can with the Grom.
Hell yeah
I got a clone with the engine like scooter or mopped but i want to upgrade to bigger cc any info where i can buy the right engine
There’s a 212cc motor for sale online for them sowmwhere
what part of jersey
I’m from Jersey as well. Are you selling it? Or do you know someone who is?
First time ever on a grom I rode the tail of the dragon and had such great fun I parked my Harley and rode this little thing. That was a friemds bike but I ordered a boom vader 2 days later along with battery and carb.
That’s awesome
Do you have any links for the suggested parts to swap out? Carb kit and any other suggested parts. I'm thinking of getting one to cruise around on for fun.
Yes go to my “boom Vader mods” video
Where can I get the boom Vader at? Or is the xpro Vader 125 the same thing just a different branding?
the website they on sale right now. i'm going to buy mine tomorrow just doing more research on it
Just got one of these! Changed the carb, still waiting to get a plate to block the tube that is acting as a second exhaust and obviously makes the bike slow af at the moment. What does what you tool out to avoid the vapor lock look like? After changing the carb and getting rid of the airbox I realized I don’t get a read on how much fuel the tank has anymore. Thanks and keep up the good work!!
These are great bikes you’ll love it. As for the vapor lock, underneath your left fairing you’ll see a big black cylinder connected to a bunch of little black tubes. Disconnect the tubes and the cylinder and that should fix the vapor lock.
@@BrapGenius awesome! Thank you!
What do you have to do to the carb?
Get rid of it😂 replace it with a nibi
I just bought one and I don't know where the choke is, also I need to do engine oil change and what gas and oil to use? any body thanks please.
It’s on the right side on top of the engine. Premium gas and 5w40 oil
I have 2021 50cc ice bear Mini do you no how to make it go faster?
If you don’t care about acceleration but you want a higher top speed you can add a smaller front sprocket
Would it be fine to use the bike a week or 2 before switching out the necessary parts?
For sure
You say to replace the battery. What do you recommend?
Any 12v7ah battery would work they have them at autozone
What kinda MPG are you seeing with your Clonda??? With your mods
Probably 60mpg if I had to guess
I got my ice bear bout a month ago, instantly ordered 17t sprocket, vm22 carb and pod filter, ported the intake a bit, n gonna do my exhaust today, hitting 70 in 3rd gear, 4th isn’t even necessary
Do these bikes need registration in New Jersey ?
Yes
hey i plan on getting this bike, is it something that i need to know physically about the bike i should know. this is gonna be my first motocycle
Just that it’s vibrational but other than that it’s a good bike to learn how to work on
The question here I have the opportunity to get a 250cc street legal dirt bike for 1,700 out the door I have a 250 Ninja 5 / 250 now seems like I'm buying another 250 or should I buy the Lifan 150cc KP mini bike? Which I really like a lot but it's 2300 and the firm and tomorrow pay and all of that I can't figure it out because I don't have a bank account can anybody help me?
Well depends what you looking to do. Are you wanting to get off road a bit? What level of off road are you going to get into? And what dual sport bike for 1700? Also mini bikes are awesome but from riding a 250 ninja, 350 ktm enduro, 450 husky mx, tx250 Yama, 125z Kawi (grom clone) I’ve had the most fun on the ninja and the KTM. Each has pros and cons and sometimes it’s worth spending the extra $$ to get something thatll fit your riding better.
How did the clutch handle break off?
It’s a stunt clutch lever
I have this same bike and something keeps killing my battery can you help me?
If it’s the stock battery that’s the problem they’re garbage
Is a clone like good as the Honda Grom?
Does it break easily and is the fuel efficient and can I use it for long trips 200+ km
I can get a clone right now unregistered but $130 it's called aquta
I'm getting one tmr so please answer my question ASAP :)
So it’s not as high quality but it is only 1/3 the price.. it’s reliable if you do the mods I have. There’s a video on it in my “boom Vader playlist” it’s extremely fuel efficient I’ve traveled almost 300 miles in one day and have 3,000 miles on mine so far.. congrats on the bike!
Do these also have a kick starter?
Nope electric start
I have a 150 cc bintelli beast brand new a few months ago waiting to do some upgrades. Wondering how many part are interchangable and/or upgradable with Honda Grom parts. Any info would be great! Thanks!
I’d say most other than stuff related to the carb since the grom is fuel injected and the Bintelli is carbureted
@@BrapGenius that definitely helps! I did not think of that difference in carbs. Thank you for the reply
Just requested both. Looking to get one really soon. Want to learn things since I am really ignorant to bikes.
They’re a lot of fun!
How do i access the battery for my 2022 bintelli beast?
It should be under the sear
You from Jersey, I'm up north jersey, when my wife and I started riding,we started on 2 little DF250RTC'S Chinese bike's. They were great little bikes, i have many videos on what we did to them, then a couple years ago I bumped her up to a ninja 600r and I got a ninja 1000, she hated it , said it was too tall and heavy so i sold my 1000 a couple of days ago and got her an icebear fuerza she found and liked and I stayed with her ninja 600r
That’s a great story thanks for sharing. Grom clones are great budget bikes imo
For vapor lock, the part is alrdy off. What else could it be?
Could’ve been that there was too much gas in the tank.. try filling it a little less and see how it goes
Can you get a stunt cage for it?
Yes grom ones fit
Where did you buy this? I'm in jersey
I bought it at redfoxpowersports.com I’m in Jersey too
Where did you get it?
Redfoxpowersports.com
Am i better off getting a brand new clone or a used grom for 1500?
If the grom isn’t beat to piss I’d say the grom.. if it’s in rough shape I’d get the clone
What part of Jersey ? I’m in Philly , have a Vader , I’m down to link up and ride
I’m up in North Jersey but I’ve been down to the Philly area before for rides. Look up “New Jersey grom squad” on Facebook for rideouts
Man I want one sooo bad!! I’ve never even ridden a bike… looks like sooo much fun
You should totally get one they’re a blast
Love these bikes. Question for you. I bought the nibbi pe22 carb and have a ton of twist throttle play. When I bought it it already had a carb upgrade swap with twist throttle play. I read that the cable should be replaced. I'm sure it's stock. What cable should I get.
www.vaderparts.com/products/throttle-cable-for-bd125-10-baodiao-motorcycle-parts-oem-throttle-wire-for-vader-grom-clone
@@BrapGenius so just a stock cable should be fine
Hey dude, first video of yours I've come across as I've been researching these things a whole bunch trying to decide which way to go. Fellow jersey dude here - where you from in the state and, if you don't mind my asking, where'd you get your bike? Was hoping to find someplace local to actually see/taste/touch/smell the thing rather than mail order...
I’m from North Jersey. I ordered mine from Redfox Powersports online it was sent to my house for a total of $1200.
@@BrapGenius rockin - north central here. Torn between the vader and the tao hellcat myself. Seems like I may be overthinking it as they're all pretty much the same.
Not much of a wrencher but always eager to learn!
@@GeekyMitch they are pretty the the same it just comes down to which style you like better. I talk about all of the mods you should do to make the bike reliable. You will have to work on it for sure but working on this bike taught me so much I now can work on all my other bikes. It gave me the confidence to do bigger jobs
How do I register it in California
At the DMV
Just got mines 125cc vader grom clone .. did swap out the carburetor with a nibbi carburetor .. tired to swap out my exhaust with a dual exhaust but the damn thing doesn’t fit .. Idk how to customize it .. I’m new to this stuff .. from Pennsylvania
Congrats on the bike homie. Unfortunately with exhausts for these you have to do some welding yourself most of the time. The exhausts usually don’t fut
@@BrapGenius .. yeah thts what I figured I have no skills on welding just gotta have to take it to a shop .. thanks for the info
where can i buy one
I bought mine from Redfox Powersports
Can I buy one and run it like that stock
You can but it will probably have problems if you leave it stock
Jersey in the house! Just subscribed to your channel. Im out of the union Twp area. Your videos convinced me to go out and buy this bike. I’ll shoot you a message once I get everything going. Would def be dope to go out on rides with other mini bikes.
Hell yeah brotha I’ll be down
Yo yo, I’m out in Old Bridge, NJ. Wondering if you ever had an issue getting your bike titled!!
Thanks for the insight.
No problem!!
New subscriber here from South Jersey. Ive been thinking about getting a Lifan KP Mini 150 or a Tao Hellcat 125.
Sick bro I heard the Lifans are great if you’re willing to spend the extra money. Both are good if you maintain them
Aye south Jersey here. Looking to get a venom 125 with the recent gas prices and my sierra 1500 costing me 100 bucks to fill up for the week
@@joeybootzyt1448 yeah bro these gas prices are wack I just filled my Vader for $4 lmao
What part of nj
North
Do they have automatic?
For the electric one yes
Can you make a video about the “choke”. Please!
Sure
@@BrapGenius thank you! because i remember getting my bike and being confused with how it works and how to get the right setting, especially when it came to cold starts or tuning the carb
I’m thinking of getting one today what do you recommend my doing to it
Carb kit and battery for sure
@@BrapGenius do you have a link or a preference of the 2
@@worldsextiction9735 the ones I bought are no longer available on Amazon but for the carb look up “vm22 carb kit”
Is venom Motorsport legit because I wanna buy this bike I’m just confused because the website was made is 2022
Yes they’re good just call them cause they’ve been around longer than that
Fun bikes but dont forget to tell people that the front forks are nothing more than spring loaded and not hydraulic dampened like a Honda.
That is a great point, thanks for reminding me.
Just from the intro ik u my kinda guy to subscribe too look forward to more vids
Appreciate that brother!!
My Grom clone runs fine with stock carb only mod i have done is go to 16 tooth front sprocket for lower rpms .
Interesting
Awesome Video!! My kid wants a Fuerza 125... Does anyone have thoughts?
Heard those are great
What brand is your clone
Boom vader
I fixing to get a clone , what do you think would be.the.best one?
And would you do a.video w/ the carb.swap,.
Subbed
I love the Boom Vader personally but they’re all pretty much the same
Ty
What do you think the best Grom out of the box is?
Honda grom
I have a condor rps 150cc and I keep having trouble with it stalling out on me when I stop or am turning. Any advice on how to fix it? I have only had it about a month and I bought it brand new
Is the clutch engaging all the way? You might need to adjust your clutch cable
@@BrapGenius can you explain how to do that and what it does?
Does the bike keep moving forward even when you pull the clutch lever in
@@BrapGenius yes it does, it just dies on me
@@tcaw100 then it’s most likely your idle. You need to adjust your idle screw
Ur from jersey? I’m from NY .. when I get my bike this month we can ride
For sure
You are absolutely right, when I pull my hellcat out it's always love and hate! The jealous I would never understand just purchase one for yourself!
Facts
I just got the 2021 Venom X20 and I love it. $2200 including nibbi carb and exhaust. It runs great. I did not feel like spending $4600 out the door for a Honda Grom. And yes you can do everything on these just like the Grom. I have 3 years of warranty through venom but in 2 years I plan on putting the Zongshen 190cc engine. And with that the bike will be much faster and still cost less than the Grom. To me name brand is not that serious.
Exactly it man. Great value for what you get
It's honda design and tech, just can't have honda written on it
Grins are like 3400$
@@cheesyxtidy2559 true and maybe used but with the new ones keep in mind tax license and fees. That’ll bring it up to $5800 ish right now.
Which clone are you riding in this video?
Boom Vader
Refreshing to see someone with an clone in NJ… how did it all go with the DMV? What model is this one?
PS I noticed one of your videos in the intro was at the JHOUSE! Hahaha you from the Lake area?
The DMV was a breeze. This is the Boom Vader. And Yeszir I live right by lake hopatcong
@@BrapGenius oh this makes me very very happy. And nice I live in lake hopatcong hahah. Maybe I’ll reach out if I decided to go after it! Thanks a ton man.
@@rbelar21 for sure hmu! I used to live at Lakeview Marina by Brady Bridge
What brand is yours?
Boom vader
What part of jersey. Whats the max miles you can get. 10000 or more
@@Mr1bigsal I have 5k miles so far and north Jersey
@BrapGenius I live in Bloomfield if you are close let's ride
I got Honda cg 125 clone with new design. Should I use the same carb as for groms? And fuel filters I heard they help with combustion. And for riding style I like cruising and this 125 can do 9k rpm in 5th gear but 1st 2nd 3rd gears are too short. I'm thinking about upgrading my front sprocket. I'm thinking of getting some money and do these upgrades in one go. I'm pretty positive It's going to do a big difference.
So I used a simple gn 22 carb kit from Amazon. Nibbis are the best but you don’t need a nubby. I never played with the fuel filter but I did throw on a 17 tooth sprocket which did help a lot
@@BrapGenius what's the stock sprocket you had. 14T?
@@mohaglade4892 yes
Love the accent! Just got my clone, it's black and white.
Hell yeah man they’re great bikes!!
South Jersey??
North
I have a 2002 Honda Accord and it runs perfect 👍👍👍
That’s dope
What is the top speed of these?
Can I ride it in on the freeway?
I’m really considering buying one
Mine tops out at about 55 mph. I rode mine on the freeway multiple times, it’s sketchy but doable. I wouldn’t do it daily tho
I drove from Poughkeepsie to Albany on the interstate my clone does 69 maxed out
Wheres the clone army in socal?
Check “clone society” and “the clone army” on Facebook you should find some there
Stricker wolf?
Even better than the Vader
Wondering when they going to make a Honda Navi clone that be awesome lol
Im having engine mount breakage at 500 miles plus bolts snapping. Any one else have these issues ?
It’s a common issue for this bike. You should upgrade all of the engine mount bolts
@@BrapGenius working on that now. Any links or suggestions as to which bolts to get? Also my right side engine mount sleeve snapped off have to rigg it to hold the top bolt on.now im getting this grinding noise i believe it's the back of the engine casing frictioning against the frame. Going to have to do some American chopper style fabrication lol im no dang mechanic
@@BrapGenius and thanks for replying my brother really appreciate it
@@zenriderzsouthflorida9904 not sure tbh there’s 2 Facebook groups I follow. Clone society and clone army someone on there can give you a link
@@zenriderzsouthflorida9904 use those sturdy bolts from Walmart that look sturdy and dusty not the shiny ones they become loose after a few months but the less shiny sturdy feeling ones stay bolted
Ty for your.video
I need help getting mine started 😭😭😭😭 its not gettig gas idk whyyyy
Open the gas cap and see if it starts
Ok i need vapor lock described for me tbh i also still have the little black thing you were talking about and all the emmission stuff
@@Frankosclone if the bike runs fine with the gas cap off then you just have vapor lock and have to do and evap delete. The best way to see it since I didn’t do a video when I did mine is find a Facebook group like “clone society” and look up evap delete
Got er started and going i did end up taking the charcoal canister off do i need to plug the line in that is coming from gas tank or just hang it some where
Start with a hotter plug and richen up the fuel mixture
Good looks
These bikes are for people who know how to fix a bike basically they do need more tinkering then a grom but I think that makes them better
Exactly right and I agree
I can't wait to get mines
They’re so much fun
Don’t mind the suit lol going down at 60 is gonna suck big bike or small bike.
Facts
I’m from south jersey I just bought one, should be here in a week or 2
That’s awesome good luck with it!
fb marketplace in CT are filled with them and these people dont change the shipping oil burn out the clutch out and proilly the engine wheelie it for a year and then try to sell it for 800 i feel bad for the people who buy them used few 100 more get a new one
Yeah that sucks just buy new
Trying to save up for one wish me luck
Good luck! They’re a blast!
I have one and I love it the only thing I need know is what I can do for my grom clone stop bouncing
Facts
I’m getting one in a couple months and I’m in Jersey!
Let’s rip bro join the NJ Grom Squad Facebook group
We have a whole bunch of minis in Paterson nj we go ride outs and have mini Monday’s as well if you will like to join the family we can talk a lot more brother blessing my brother
Hell yeah I actually used to go there pretty often in 2021 I didn’t get a chance as much in 2022 I only went once or twice I wanna get back to it again next year
Love my Clone! 👍
Hell yeah!
just started riding , in jersey
What’s a good carb for them bikes
and I just got one it’s coming in soon what should I all do to it
@@trevorc3016 battery, carb kit (I used a fake mikuni), 17t sprocket for better top end speed, exhaust, emissions delete
@@BrapGenius what’s carb u have does it matter
@@trevorc3016 mikuni
@@BrapGenius do u have a different exhaust
Sorry I’m late, but what sort of fuel mileage are you getting? Before the mods and after if you can remember
I never rode it without the mods so I can’t say stock.. after mods probably about 65 mpg
I haven’t received mine yet, so I’m just asking questions I think might be worth knowing for me. I’ve never been on a motorcycle or dirt bike before
@@Whiteshadowsyoutube it’s a good bike to learn on. You’ll also learn about how to work on bikes which this is a great way to learn since it’s a cheap bike
I'm from new brunswick and I haven't seen any clones either
Join the New Jersey grom page it’s how I found out about the NYC rideout
I want to get a Grom clone what would be the best and the fastest Grom clone I could buy under $2,000 say $1,000 besides the Vader 150 cuz I already know about that I'm looking for something faster and better than that
Well what you can do is get the Vader and upgrade the engine to a 190cc motor and it’ll smoke any grom on the streets