How are you supposed to even start to trust this. An image of Alec Guinness appears whilst the narrative goes on about Denis Price, a caption of Michael Redgrave appears over an image of Laurence Olivier. That takes ignorance to a new depth and stupidity to unimaginable heights
@@alancharles6789Totally agree : this is truly a rubbish channel. Obviously not in the least interested in the subject matter as do zero research. If this was a school exam they would get E minus !! . Rather suspect they are kids who haven’t grown up yet : that would explain their lack of respect and maturity!! . Would like to think grown ups would act in a more responsible fashion ! Have reported so many of these crap videos to UA-cam since August and not one has been actioned on. Feel it’s a cosmetic exercise by YT who don’t care one iota as long as the money comes in! These creators ( for want of a better word ) are blatantly immune to community guidelines but the viewers aren’t. It’s hypocrisy at the highest level. Has anyone out there had success with reporting videos : would be interesting to know !
@@Sj4-h8l YES THE AGENDA THIS IS TRYING TO PUSH . THERE WAS NO LGBTQ+ THIS GUY IS TRYING THE OLD BRAIN WASHING TRICK . ON THE NEXT GENERATION. BY MAKING IT SEEM IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LGBTQ . I AGREE WITH YOU CRAP RESEARCH AND LIEING AND DECEIVEING.
@ Except that people's friends knew a bit more than the general public. There was a lot of cooperation from media, gossip media as well. The Hollywood moguls protected their property /product well and that included the social jail for their stars.
Impossible for him to be gay. My aunt worked in the studios for years. She mentioned other stars later in life who were gay. Definitely not him. Knew about Raymond Burr and Rock Hudson.
Your use of a bot voiceover is very obvious and annoying. AI is going to be your downfall if you keep using it. Get a clue. People hate AI for good reason.
Simmons, AFAIK, though he probably was gay, never discussed his sex life in public. Why SHOULD he have? Let the late fitness guru and generally funny but endearing and positive man rest in PEACE, for pity's sake!
I was thinking the same thing, they needed to touch on the actors that weren't so obvious. Rock Hudson and Raymond Burr were a little bit gay......buy Richard Simmons and John Inman??.....that's football bat, $3 bill, frilly panties gay.
@@kitcaldwell7343Chisme es chisme.... lo curioso es que en la Biblia menciona los pecados mortales, entre ellos la homosexualidad,... PERO... PERO.. LA BIBLIA SEÑALA COMO EO PEOR PECADO... LA LENGUA...LA MLIDICENCIA... EL HABLARR DE LIS DEMÁS CON MALA INTENSIÓN...
When presenting a historical narrative for the purpose of enlightening the public it would be NICE if the people putting together the material MATCHED names with the ACTUAL PHOTOS of the people being discussed. Everything that is portrayed here is SUSPECT because of the LAZINESSS in using A.I. technology.
agreed!! when Dick Van Dykes photo came up with a different name, i was so confused!! then they kept doing it. combine that with the AI narrator, and i'm done.
@yvonneplant9434 Actually there are plenty of heterosexual people who for a plethora of reasons choose not to be very public about certain relationships.
Private? What's that? Welcome to the vulgar world! The whole concept of taste and dignity is history. What's in some guys underpants is way more important than what's in his brain.
@johnscanlan9335 ....and they would be the polyamorous/bisexual 'straights' you're referring to? There shouldn't be labels put on anyone in this world.
Sherman Hemsley lived in El Paso for many years He was a regular customer at Bowie bakery on North Loop. He grew up in an era where whites and blacks could not marry, I truly believe he and his Hispanic housekeeper lived together.
Richard Pryor and an actress who I’m currently blanking on that worked with him both said Helmsley had relationships with men but didn’t say gay. So probably BI at least like Richard Pryor was.
Don’t you mean Jean? 😂 Seriously, the a.i. pronunciations are almost as bad as some of the a.i. script on screen! Robert Reed and Barrowman got some of the worst! 🙄
I am 83. I have never understood why someone must reveal their sexuality to anyone but a partner. What you do in the privacy of your home is none of my business. This is a ponderable that is on the list of things I plan to ask the Lord. I have 17 years to wait.
In the military I was asked point blank by an investigator in order to get a top secret clearance. They also came to my home town and interviewed people. I had to lie and since I was in the closet I got by.
Why does it bother you that people come out? You really don't understand why oppressed people break out of others imposed shackles. Sexuality is a core aspect of any individual. It involves to whom you love. It's not about a sexual act. That's a powerful expression of it of course. What it means by your statement, that you do not understand imprisonment. Thought experiment: Hide the fact you are straight. By that you deny ever being married- get a divorce, say your children are not yours publicly. Live everything that's precious to you in secret. The state is to deny your existence is valid: (kicked out of the military, lose your job, get raided by the police, charged- even if you were pivotal in a world war. Secretly contemplate suicide... and so on. Denied your pension, fair treatment under the law. Cut off from your family. It all adds up. The closet is not owned by the individual, but societies and individuals that enforce it. You wouldn't hide anything if you didn't haft to.
Well, some gays have been forced to reveal it, and have had it revealed just by living a normal life -- talking about their partner's cooking, or explaining to a girl why he won't date her. One is forced out often by just living. I agree no one should be forced, but knowing I'm gay shouldn't get me arrested or denied an apartment, fired from a job, or beaten in an alley.
@@Adam-Mercer Seriously? No, I wouldn’t . Randolph Scott was gay. Fred Astaire and Burt Lancaster were gay. Why do you have to be so hateful? What’s your problem?
@@Adam-Mercer The fuck is wrong with you? What a weird thing to say. I don’t have any investment in his “legacy”, which by the way is about his work, not his sexuality. I would have no problem with this if it were accurate. Hey, Fred Astaire, Burt Lancaster and Randolph Scott were queer.
Just because someone chooses to be single and private about their lives doesn't mean they were/are gay. I have three friends, all over 50 years old. None of them have ever married, and none of them have any children.
Do not buy that Gene Kelly was gay. Sherman Hemsley somewhat famously lived with 2 women at the same time. The rest I agree with. Some are very obvious.
When I found out Ricard Chamberlain was gay, I was upset for a month! At 13, that was a big deal to me, now, I could care less. Still love him and his acting! ❤️🇨🇦
That kiss with Tuesday weld, left a mark on my young soul. I remember telling my sister,I want to be kissed like that.swoon. ------ * don't look at me,she replied*
So because he was your "longtime customer," he was required to talk to you about a private part of his life he would have rarely revealed to anyone else?
The feeling that one must hide their sexuality, simply to exist in society and then turning to alcohol/ drugs to cope with that constant stress, is a real tragedy. The heartening part in these stories is the fact that some still managed to have long-term dedicated partners. Healthy, supportive and loving relationships between adults are too rare in this World. It makes no sense to demand only heterosexual relationships are acceptable. Sexual attraction to others is personal and unique to everybody. Find the partner who reciprocates your feelings and give that same right to everybody else. Unless someone is getting hurt, it's not our business to judge.
Many of the British actors mentioned Alec McCowan, Dennis Price, Michael Redgrave kept their sensuality hidden during their careers because homosexuality was illegal in England until 1967 so sharing their sensuality would have resulted in prison terms.
Walt Disney was a racist homophobe. He fired Sean Connery after Darby O'Gill and the Little People because he thought Connery was gay. Connery moved back to Scotland and nearly quit acting because of his dismissal by Disney until his agent sent him a screenplay for a film called Dr. No.
There's a bit more to the story than him just being gay. He's said that the situation didn't give Disney much choice. And he was brought back for 'The Monkey's Uncle'.
Here's an idea. I think I'll make a video with a provocative title, something like "Men who are actually women". Then I'll do ZERO research, just throw in anything I want, like "Timeless Vintage is non-binary trans man who identifies as a poodle" and post the crap as if it's true. Pretty much what we got going on in this mess !
Most of these people's sexuality was about as secret as Grant's Tomb. But on what basis, other than wishful thinking, can it be said that Gene Kelly was gay? If anything, he fought to debunk the stereotype that all male dancers were gay. Fred Astaire would be more plausible, but he wasn't gay, either.
So sad to hear about Tommy Kirk. He was one of my favorite actors as a kid. I could care less about his sexuality, I just thought he was extremely handsome and a great actor.
I think I was in my late 20s back in the 80s when being gay and coming out was the thing for a lot of people, more and more celebrities were finally saying they were homosexual or lesbian. I thought at that time well it's their life what business it of mine. I still enjoy a good movie, a good song, no matter who is performing it. I've always been straight myself and don't really care what others do in their own bedrooms with others. I don't talk about my sex life and as long as we understand that it's cool.
I've always thought it was STUPID to speculate on someone's sexuality. Unless they're asking you for a date, who cares?! Also, I never got the point of pushing someone to "come out". Would you walk up to another person and announce "I'm straight?"
Why is someone's private life any of my business? Or yours. i don't see why anybody would care in the first place. is it that we sre so bored with our lives we're trying to live the lfife of others?
I never liked Kelly. He treated many people like crap. He was known for being a jerk. He was conceited. You never see anyone talk about his being a great guy
This world would be a much better and happier place if everyone felt the same way you do about it; especially if it was applied to everyone else too. And I'm not even gay or bi; I'm just not straight either. Pretty much asexual, aromantic, and asocial. Makes for a quiet, simple lifestyle.
It was quite a shock to learn that Leslie Jordan was gay. He always presented such a super macho image on TV and in films. His overpowering presence filled the screen with dominant masculine might.
Gene Kelly was most definitely not gay. Martha Hyer once said that Gene Kelly was the one relationship she would name as the one that meant the most to her. She also said, "The world remembers his Singin' in the Rain, I remember his kissing in the rain!"
Jean [sic] Kelly?? Something tells me this is some more of the usual: Take unsubstatiated gossip and pass it off as fact. There are also numerous misspellings throughout this video.
I’ve sold real estate in Beverly Hills and the surrounding areas for over 30 years, and I sold Gene Kelly’s home after he passed away in 1996. I was around many, many people who knew him, and had long conversations about him. I’ve never once heard that he was gay. Never. This video is bs.
Heavens, this needed a good editor. Jim Nabors's name was not spelled "Neighbor" and that is not the only typo here. A better photo editor would have helped too.
Roddy a Child Star in Pervo Pedo Hollywood I would have asked Roddy was he Raped by the Pure Evil Child abusing Pedophile Studio Owners Directors Producers of Hollywood As they are still getting away with it today I bet Poor Roddy Was
Right, it's Gene Kelly, not Jean Kelly. And no, it's not Doctor Calder, it's Doctor Kildare. It's that Farley Granger at 5:41 who appeared with John Dall in Rope? He was gay, along with Montgomery Clift and Dick Sargent to name a few others.
and you spelled Laurence Olivier incorrectly so isnt that a little like the pot calling the kettle black does it matter whether a person sits down or stands up to use the facilities
And not a mention of Liberace (The Candelabra Queen)? Or Rock Hudson or James Dean, who once said when asked by a reporter if he was gay -- asked in response to many of the gay rumors swirling around him, "Well, I sure don't want to go thru life with on hand tied behind my back." At the very least he is saying that at the very least he wasn't adverse to trying it with other men (the real rumor was he and Sal Mineo had a fling during the making of REBEL and if you look at the way they look at each other in that film, Mineo looks like he adores Dean. And who knows what went on in the trailers on the set of GIANT, Anyone think Rock could have resisted inviting Jame Dean into his trailer during that filming? 😍
Sister in law and I saw Liberace perform in California.... I wasn't looking forward to that event but she wanted company.... Enjoyed the performance much more than I thought I would....he worked hard at putting on a great show.... Also said to the crowd... you probably have heard the rumors....well, I started them. We all knew what he meant.
Gene Kelly was not gay, a gay man would never have married women several times, not happening. John Inman may have been a pedophile, he passed away as British authorities were investigating him. Sherman Hemsley does surprise me, I didn't know. I am the one guy in America who didn't know Rock Hudson was gay, when his illness, and sexuality came to light, I was shocked.
There is a phrase used that I wish would be used today. He was a private person. Did not discuss his sexuality. I am so sick and tired of people talking about their sexuality.
I agree. But now people talk about their private parts and their intimate experiences as if its perfectly acceptable. I find their vulgar expressions sickening.
That's so typical coming from a straight person who society has catered to her whole life. Gay people come out of the closet to show society that they exist, to educate people against the ignorance they've been taught about them, and that there are more gay people out there than most people realize. So many straight people just can't step out of the perspectives they've grown up with (and yes, the word is "privilege") and see others' points of views who are different than they are. Maybe if you were bullied and beaten up just for being yourself while growing up you might actually understand that. If all you can see is people "talking about their private parts," that's pretty sad.
Not true. Perkins was closeted and intensely paranoid about it for the majority of his career. He had a number of beard girlfriends, including Pier Angeli.
Jeez! First, Gene Kelly was not gay… married three times and had three kids. Also, his name was spelled “Gene Kelly”, not “Jean”. Please folks who made this: pull your head out of your ass.
I don't think it's fair to say somebody is gay when they were married their entire life and denied any such gay rumors. Then when they are dead, make a video saying they were gay. If they were gay and never confirmed or denied it, then congratulations because that's the way it should be, private.
I was born in the 70s and I have to say, I'd prefer people keeping their sexuality to themselves. It's a private matter and certainly nothing to be "proud" of.
'Anyone' may wish to form an intimate relationship, including a sexual one. It's only fair that people are honest and don't exploit, use and/or experiment with interested others and lead them up the garden path.
Because the notion of having to be closeted telegraphs that there is something wrong with being gay...that it need to be hidden. While it doesn't have huge consequences for mature adults, for young people struggling with their sexuality and the shame with having to hide their secret often leads to bad consequences. The more normal, healthy and visible gay role models there are, the safer it is for young people to be themselves.
It is so easy to jump to conclusions when people are dead and can't defend themselves. If people are “fiercely privet” it doesn't mean they are gay. It just means they dont choose to tell you everything.
I am a deeply closeted homosexual man. A deeply closeted fellow would never tell people that he was gay. That's me. I would never say to people that I am gay. I'm deeply closeted.
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Part 2:21 Secretly Gay Stars Of The Golden Age Of Hollywood
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How are you supposed to even start to trust this. An image of Alec Guinness appears whilst the narrative goes on about Denis Price, a caption of Michael Redgrave appears over an image of Laurence Olivier. That takes ignorance to a new depth and stupidity to unimaginable heights
@@alancharles6789Totally agree : this is truly a rubbish channel. Obviously not in the least interested in the subject matter as do zero research. If this was a school exam they would get E minus !! . Rather suspect they are kids who haven’t grown up yet : that would explain their lack of respect and maturity!! . Would like to think grown ups would act in a more responsible fashion ! Have reported so many of these crap videos to UA-cam since August and not one has been actioned on. Feel it’s a cosmetic exercise by YT who don’t care one iota as long as the money comes in! These creators ( for want of a better word ) are blatantly immune to community guidelines but the viewers aren’t. It’s hypocrisy at the highest level. Has anyone out there had success with reporting videos : would be interesting to know !
@@Sj4-h8l YES THE AGENDA THIS IS TRYING TO PUSH . THERE WAS NO LGBTQ+ THIS GUY IS TRYING THE OLD BRAIN WASHING TRICK . ON THE NEXT GENERATION. BY MAKING IT SEEM IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LGBTQ . I AGREE WITH YOU CRAP RESEARCH AND LIEING AND DECEIVEING.
WHAT LIEING DECEIVEING LITTLE SHIT. THERE WAS NO LGBTQ + AT THAT TIME IT'S YOU TRYING TO CONVINCE THIS GENERATION THAT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN .
WHAT CRAP YOU PUT OUT NOTHING BUT MISINFORMATION THERE WAS NO LGBTQ +
I'm a gay man who grew up in the 60s and 70s ... Gene Kelly was not gay. Believe me, Judy would have known.
Sorry, that is just an opinion.
Thanks for sharing. I think a few of these are speculative.
@ Except that people's friends knew a bit more than the general public. There was a lot of cooperation from media, gossip media as well. The Hollywood moguls protected their property /product well and that included the social jail for their stars.
Did she know about Vicente Minnelli?
I wondered did she know about her husband van johnson a lot more of them
Charles Nelson Rielly never needed to announce his sexuality. Whether acting on tv or on talk show you were never in doubt for one moment.
I use to love Charles Nelson Reilly. As a kid I would just laugh every time I would see him. RIP
I use to love Charles Nelson Reilly. As a kid I would just laugh every time I would see him. RIP
Flaming Arrow. If he were “Norm” he would not have had his talent. Strange
I agree and he was one of my favorites he was so comical
+11@@yoliebee9176
I have never heard that Gene Kelly was gay. Never. That is a totally unsubstantiated assumption. Assuming dancers are gay is a stereotype.
Baseless and foolish, based on nothing but a stereotype of dancers.
AGREED!
It doesn't fit with what I have read about him.
Wrong!
Impossible for him to be gay. My aunt worked in the studios for years. She mentioned other stars later in life who were gay. Definitely not him. Knew about Raymond Burr and Rock Hudson.
Your use of a bot voiceover is very obvious and annoying. AI is going to be your downfall if you keep using it. Get a clue. People hate AI for good reason.
I JUST HATE ALL THE MISINFOMATION HE PUTS OUT . BY THE BUCKET LOAD
@@TonyKing-ez6ug Sadly more and more channels like this are popping up on UA-cam. It's really depressing.
You lost me at Kelly. He wasn't gay. Thumbs down.
Yep. Not buying it.
I said “Not Gene Kelly “.
I agree.
Rumors are not facts.
Exactly !
Charles Nelson Riley? Michael Jeter? Divine? John Inman? You might as well throw in Paul Lynde, Richard Simmons and Liberace.
Don't forget barry
Facts
Simmons, AFAIK, though he probably was gay, never discussed his sex life in public. Why SHOULD he have? Let the late fitness guru and generally funny but endearing and positive man rest in PEACE, for pity's sake!
I was thinking the same thing, they needed to touch on the actors that weren't so obvious. Rock Hudson and Raymond Burr were a little bit gay......buy Richard Simmons and John Inman??.....that's football bat, $3 bill, frilly panties gay.
Cannot take your video seriously as there are too many incorrect photos with each story 😡
not incorrect
just not timed properly
Why do some ppl care who others have a relationship with? Nobody’s business. Ppl need to learn how to mind their own business. 🤐
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@@shannonglass7316 They're celebrities, so it's everyone's business.
@@kitcaldwell7343Chisme es chisme.... lo curioso es que en la Biblia menciona los pecados mortales, entre ellos la homosexualidad,... PERO... PERO.. LA BIBLIA SEÑALA COMO EO PEOR PECADO... LA LENGUA...LA MLIDICENCIA... EL HABLARR DE LIS DEMÁS CON MALA INTENSIÓN...
When presenting a historical narrative for the purpose of enlightening the public it would be NICE if the people putting together the material MATCHED names with the ACTUAL PHOTOS of the people being discussed. Everything that is portrayed here is SUSPECT because of the LAZINESSS in using A.I. technology.
agreed!! when Dick Van Dykes photo came up with a different name, i was so confused!! then they kept doing it. combine that with the AI narrator, and i'm done.
They can't pronounce the names correctly either!
@@kayej1609. It’s because the narration is computer generated as are the captions. Never know what you’ll get.
You’re not used to CCs are you?
And apparently we are now writing the year "2017" as "2,017"
Does anyone ever consider that some men just don't want to publicize their private lives, because those things are PRIVATE???
Do you ever consider that straight people don't EVER keep their sexuality private? Not for a second. 😅
@yvonneplant9434 Actually there are plenty of heterosexual people who for a plethora of reasons choose not to be very public about certain relationships.
Private? What's that? Welcome to the vulgar world! The whole concept of taste and dignity is history. What's in some guys underpants is way more important than what's in his brain.
@mikezylstra7514 Sadly you're mostly correct!
@johnscanlan9335 ....and they would be the polyamorous/bisexual 'straights' you're referring to? There shouldn't be labels put on anyone in this world.
Just because Sherman Hemsley never married or had children doesn't mean he was gay. Some people like their private lives private.
@@feliciaporter6882 oh he came out. I think he got married.
Sherman Hemsley lived in El Paso for many years He was a regular customer at Bowie bakery on North Loop. He grew up in an era where whites and blacks could not marry, I truly believe he and his Hispanic housekeeper lived together.
His colleagues said, he was gay!
Richard Pryor and an actress who I’m currently blanking on that worked with him both said Helmsley had relationships with men but didn’t say gay. So probably BI at least like Richard Pryor was.
i had a friend who saw him in LA in a limo.... kissing all over a young blonde guy. Weezy lol
Doubt Gene Kelly was gay.
He was a dancer - accused first...proven later.
Don’t you mean Jean? 😂
Seriously, the a.i. pronunciations are almost as bad as some of the a.i. script on screen! Robert Reed and Barrowman got some of the worst! 🙄
@@mikezylstra7514not true but dream on
according to these replies he is guilty by accusation, no actual evidence or anything just a post on you tube a pfzzt you are now gay
@@davedixon2068 I mean, he was in XANADU. His final film role.
Rock Hudson died from AIDS-related complications on October 2, 1985 at the age of 59. He was the first major American celebrity to die from AIDS
SHAZAM!!!!!!!.....:>)
And?
I am 83. I have never understood why someone must reveal their sexuality to anyone but a partner. What you do in the privacy of your home is none of my business. This is a ponderable that is on the list of things I plan to ask the Lord. I have 17 years to wait.
In the military I was asked point blank by an investigator in order to get a top secret clearance. They also came to my home town and interviewed people. I had to lie and since I was in the closet I got by.
That is so correct, no one needs to know your preference unless they are your partner.
Why does it bother you that people come out? You really don't understand why oppressed people break out of others imposed shackles. Sexuality is a core aspect of any individual. It involves to whom you love. It's not about a sexual act. That's a powerful expression of it of course.
What it means by your statement, that you do not understand imprisonment.
Thought experiment: Hide the fact you are straight. By that you deny ever being married- get a divorce, say your children are not yours publicly. Live everything that's precious to you in secret. The state is to deny your existence is valid: (kicked out of the military, lose your job, get raided by the police, charged- even if you were pivotal in a world war. Secretly contemplate suicide... and so on. Denied your pension, fair treatment under the law. Cut off from your family. It all adds up.
The closet is not owned by the individual, but societies and individuals that enforce it. You wouldn't hide anything if you didn't haft to.
Well, some gays have been forced to reveal it, and have had it revealed just by living a normal life -- talking about their partner's cooking, or explaining to a girl why he won't date her. One is forced out often by just living. I agree no one should be forced, but knowing I'm gay shouldn't get me arrested or denied an apartment, fired from a job, or beaten in an alley.
@@McfreddoLife was better closeted. More fun and exciting.
Gene Kelly was NOT gay. My grandad was a part of Golden Age Hollywood and trust me- Kelky was super duper straight
You'll say anything to keep his legacy alive.
@@Adam-Mercer Seriously? No, I wouldn’t . Randolph Scott was gay. Fred Astaire and Burt Lancaster were gay.
Why do you have to be so hateful? What’s your problem?
@@Adam-Mercer The fuck is wrong with you? What a weird thing to say. I don’t have any investment in his “legacy”, which by the way is about his work, not his sexuality.
I would have no problem with this if it were accurate. Hey, Fred Astaire, Burt Lancaster and Randolph Scott were queer.
@@PeriLyons123 I didn't know Fred Astaire and Burt Lancaster were gay but I knew they were Jewish....... so was Kirk Douglas
@PeriLyons123 who was your grandfather? Anyone we would know? I'm surprised to hear about burt Lancaster... he was a known notorious womanizer.
Just because someone chooses to be single and private about their lives doesn't mean they were/are gay. I have three friends, all over 50 years old. None of them have ever married, and none of them have any children.
I interviewed Jonathan Frid through the mail for my high school paper in 1970. Very gracious man.
HAHAHA
Do not buy that Gene Kelly was gay.
Sherman Hemsley somewhat famously lived with 2 women at the same time.
The rest I agree with. Some are very obvious.
Sherman Hemsley was gay.
@@user-zr9ub2fs4wI can't believe that Sherman Hensley was gay. People assume because someone isn't married that they are gay and it's not the case.
@@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc He was gay.
@@user-zr9ub2fs4w I still don't believe it. It's too bad that Sherman Hemsley isn't around to confirm these unfounded rumors.
Pretty sure Helmsley was gay. Those women were probably his "beards".
When I found out Ricard Chamberlain was gay, I was upset for a month! At 13, that was a big deal to me, now, I could care less. Still love him and his acting! ❤️🇨🇦
I had mad crushes on Richard Chamberlain and Troy Donahue when I was 13. Many years ago...
I've heard Chamberlain had a brief relationship with actor Wesley Eure (Land Of the Lost) which didn't end very well.
Ahhhhhh,loved Dr Kildare ....❤
That kiss with Tuesday weld, left a mark on my young soul. I remember telling my sister,I want to be kissed like that.swoon.
------ * don't look at me,she replied*
Richard Chamberlain was an extremely handsome man. It was so sad to find out he was gay.
Sorry, but why r so many of these pictures wrong showing the wrong actors?
So much of TV, both from the US and UK in the era shown here, hid all the gay men (and women) from fans. I’m sure it was a hard time for many of them.
There is a reason for this. Got it figured out yet?
True. 8:55 is Lawrence Olivier, not Michael Redgrave.
Sal Min Ay Oh The problem with AI voicing
the mispronunciation of these stars' names is MADDENING!
Yet we are still supposed to believe that AI will take over the world.
@@ProfessorEchoMedia haha
computer voice not real
Its Sal Maeo
My favorite is when it pronounced LGBTQIA as "elgibitkwia" 😂
Gene Kelly was my longtime customer for over 25 years. Mr. Kelly was not gay which makes this hit piece a total sham.
So because he was your "longtime customer," he was required to talk to you about a private part of his life he would have rarely revealed to anyone else?
Hit piece?
Even extraterrestrials know that Divine was gay.
Gene Kelly was not gay.
Absolutely not
The feeling that one must hide their sexuality, simply to exist in society and then turning to alcohol/ drugs to cope with that constant stress, is a real tragedy. The heartening part in these stories is the fact that some still managed to have long-term dedicated partners.
Healthy, supportive and loving relationships between adults are too rare in this World. It makes no sense to demand only heterosexual relationships are acceptable. Sexual attraction to others is personal and unique to everybody. Find the partner who reciprocates your feelings and give that same right to everybody else. Unless someone is getting hurt, it's not our business to judge.
Many of the British actors mentioned Alec McCowan, Dennis Price, Michael Redgrave kept their sensuality hidden during their careers because homosexuality was illegal in England until 1967 so sharing their sensuality would have resulted in prison terms.
It’s ironic that Tommy Kirk was let go by Disney for being gay- given Disney’s stance on gays now!
Yeah, ultra conservative Walt Disney died. He was a genius but also a bigot.
Walt Disney was a racist homophobe. He fired Sean Connery after Darby O'Gill and the Little People because he thought Connery was gay. Connery moved back to Scotland and nearly quit acting because of his dismissal by Disney until his agent sent him a screenplay for a film called Dr. No.
Wow Tommy Kirk was in a lot of movies sponsored by Disney and similar companies
Maybe Disney should arrange restitution...
There's a bit more to the story than him just being gay. He's said that the situation didn't give Disney much choice. And he was brought back for 'The Monkey's Uncle'.
Here's an idea. I think I'll make a video with a provocative title, something like "Men who are actually women". Then I'll do ZERO research, just throw in anything I want, like "Timeless Vintage is non-binary trans man who identifies as a poodle" and post the crap as if it's true. Pretty much what we got going on in this mess !
Sooo many names and words spelled incorrectly in the subtitles.
Those clips from Hairspray are the remake with John Travolta, not Divine.
That big actor was definitely Devine, not John Travolta.
Lazy
I miss Leslie Jordan so much!! He still had so much Pop left in his Tart!!!!
Brother Boy was such a great character.
You sound like a fruit loop yourself.
Most of these people's sexuality was about as secret as Grant's Tomb. But on what basis, other than wishful thinking, can it be said that Gene Kelly was gay? If anything, he fought to debunk the stereotype that all male dancers were gay. Fred Astaire would be more plausible, but he wasn't gay, either.
what's grant's tomb?
Who’s buried in Grant’s tomb?
So sad to hear about Tommy Kirk. He was one of my favorite actors as a kid. I could care less about his sexuality, I just thought he was extremely handsome and a great actor.
I LOVED Tommy Kirk when I was a kid too, & thought he was soooo good looking….
@ me too. I use to drool over him. I love those memories.
@@cherylreaves253 They sure are wonderful memories…😊
That isn't Sir Michael Redgrave at 8:56, that's Laurence Olivier!
Thanks for confirming that. I noticed it as well, but I didn't anyone would be so sloppy in their production. I stand corrected.
Redgrave had 2 daughters so looks like he was Bi
By all accounts Larry was bi, too, so never mind.
And if you wait 4 seconds the right photo is there. Its sloppy production but not necessarily untrue
@@chillinginthefrozennorthThese guys are !!!
I think I was in my late 20s back in the 80s when being gay and coming out was the thing for a lot of people, more and more celebrities were finally saying they were homosexual or lesbian. I thought at that time well it's their life what business it of mine. I still enjoy a good movie, a good song, no matter who is performing it. I've always been straight myself and don't really care what others do in their own bedrooms with others. I don't talk about my sex life and as long as we understand that it's cool.
You forgot Raymond Burr- Perry Mason.
lol true i was his sisters nurse for years ,,,,
They will identify more gays in parts 2 through 20.
And the TEN YEAR gay affair shared between Marlon Brando and Richard Pryor.
The big shocker for me was Rock Hudson!
He was not mentioned in this video.
Pllp
and Richard Chamberlain. They could have had any woman they wanted!
He like to hang out in Long Beach California
@@nancyselzer628 the stupidest answer ever. I could have any woman I want but that’s not how this works lady.
Rock Hudson "married" a B list Irish actor.
It does not matter if these people were gay or not. I have to say, that I loved Sal Mineo in movies He was so handsome and gifted.
You actually got a few facts right.....dope!
Yes, but so few.
I've always thought it was STUPID to speculate on someone's sexuality. Unless they're asking you for a date, who cares?! Also, I never got the point of pushing someone to "come out". Would you walk up to another person and announce "I'm straight?"
Only if you're closeted.
Why is someone's private life any of my business? Or yours. i don't see why anybody would care in the first place. is it that we sre so bored with our lives we're trying to live the lfife of others?
@@MsWobbly1 Yes, exactly.
What a ridiculous comparison. Everyone automatically assumes most people in society are straight right off the bat. They don't need to announce it.
I never liked Kelly. He treated many people like crap. He was known for being a jerk. He was conceited. You never see anyone talk about his being a great guy
It is hard to believe the rumors about Kelly when you spelled his name wrong! If you can't get that right, what other mistakes have you made.
A.I?
"JEAN" 🤦♀️
@@emilyr3451 No. Eugene, in other words, Gene Kelly.
So, some actors are gay. Big deal. So what?
This world would be a much better and happier place if everyone felt the same way you do about it; especially if it was applied to everyone else too. And I'm not even gay or bi; I'm just not straight either. Pretty much asexual, aromantic, and asocial. Makes for a quiet, simple lifestyle.
It was very much a big deal in the 1960s, 70s, 80s, and 90s, and possibly beyond.
i think the target demographic of this video is 99.
Divine "secretly gay, lol?" Ridiculous. He was very open about being gay throughout his entire career!
It was quite a shock to learn that Leslie Jordan was gay. He always presented such a super macho image on TV and in films. His overpowering presence filled the screen with dominant masculine might.
Sarcasm is disrespectful in this context.
@@randilevson9547No it isn't. I thought it was hilarious! I'm a gay man and I was laughing when they showed Leslie. Like, no shit he was gay 😂
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@@randilevson9547 honestly don’t think it was meant to be disrespectful in the least.
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Gene Kelly was most definitely not gay. Martha Hyer once said that Gene Kelly was the one relationship she would name as the one that meant the most to her. She also said, "The world remembers his Singin' in the Rain, I remember his kissing in the rain!"
Divine closeted? What’s next? Pamela Anderson outed as a woman?
I don't care about people being Gay. If they are good people. They have my support.
Jean [sic] Kelly?? Something tells me this is some more of the usual: Take unsubstatiated gossip and pass it off as fact. There are also numerous misspellings throughout this video.
And numerous mispronouncing of names. Sal Mineo...........Min e-o.
Such as 'Corinne' Redgrave for Michael Redgrave's son Corin.
I’ve sold real estate in Beverly Hills and the surrounding areas for over 30 years, and I sold Gene Kelly’s home after he passed away in 1996. I was around many, many people who knew him, and had long conversations about him. I’ve never once heard that he was gay. Never. This video is bs.
I find it disturbing that Disney fired Tommy Kirk due to his sexuality. My, my, how Disney's values have changed.
Heavens, this needed a good editor. Jim Nabors's name was not spelled "Neighbor" and that is not the only typo here. A better photo editor would have helped too.
Where was Danny Kaye? I read he had a gay affair with Laurence Olivier. There was also Roddy McDowell.
Roddy a Child Star in Pervo Pedo Hollywood I would have asked Roddy was he Raped by the Pure Evil Child abusing Pedophile Studio Owners Directors Producers of Hollywood As they are still getting away with it today I bet Poor Roddy Was
Also Marlon Brando, who was bisexual, and James Dean.
And Raymond Burr.........."Perry Mason".
@@somerset6646It was rumored Brando and Wally Cox had something going on.
Did Kaye give Larry the "vessel with the pestle" or did Olivier give Kaye the "brew that is true.."?
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What a load of tripe, Gene Kelly was definitely not gay!
Devine? Secretly gay? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😅 Secret ?.That made me laugh. This has been public knowledge for decades. Some of them even back in the day !...
Charles Nelson Reilly never talking about it onscreen? Talk about hiding in plain sight.
HIs wife was also gay.
The photo you put up for Michael Redgrave was actually Laurence Olivier!
Right, it's Gene Kelly, not Jean Kelly. And no, it's not Doctor Calder, it's Doctor Kildare. It's that Farley Granger at 5:41 who appeared with John Dall in Rope? He was gay, along with Montgomery Clift and Dick Sargent to name a few others.
John Dall and Farley Granger were both as queer as a screen door on a submarine.
@@hermanator74301 Or a 3 dollar bill.
Gene Kelly was NOT gay. BS. He never talked about it because there wasn’t any thing to talk about.
The first photo of michael Redgrave is not Michael Redgrave, is Lawrence Olivier
and you spelled Laurence Olivier incorrectly so isnt that a little like the pot calling the kettle black
does it matter whether a person sits down or stands up to use the facilities
I’m so glad that many of them lived long enough to let the world know and maybe they found some peace even though it was way overdue.
And not a mention of Liberace (The Candelabra Queen)? Or Rock Hudson or James Dean, who once said when asked by a reporter if he was gay -- asked in response to many of the gay rumors swirling around him, "Well, I sure don't want to go thru life with on hand tied behind my back." At the very least he is saying that at the very least he wasn't adverse to trying it with other men (the real rumor was he and Sal Mineo had a fling during the making of REBEL and if you look at the way they look at each other in that film, Mineo looks like he adores Dean. And who knows what went on in the trailers on the set of GIANT, Anyone think Rock could have resisted inviting Jame Dean into his trailer during that filming? 😍
Not mentioning Liberace is terrible. Love Liberace even as a straight guy
Sister in law and I saw Liberace perform in California.... I wasn't looking forward to that event but she wanted company.... Enjoyed the performance much more than I thought I would....he worked hard at putting on a great show.... Also said to the crowd... you probably have heard the rumors....well, I started them. We all knew what he meant.
Gee, I never would have thought Divine was gay. Who knew?
It would also help if the narrator managed to pronounce the names of these actors correctly.
Tommy Kirk was no surprise. Disney had to look out for its bottom line and a gay actor would reflect badly. Sad, but true for the time.
The Rock Hudson and Jim Nabors rumors actually sprang from the old joke “If Rock Hudson married Gomer Pyle his name would be Rock Pile.
That’s the wrong hairspray 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
It's shocking that Dr. Smith wasn't. 😂
Gene Kelly was not gay, a gay man would never have married women several times, not happening. John Inman may have been a pedophile, he passed away as British authorities were investigating him. Sherman Hemsley does surprise me, I didn't know.
I am the one guy in America who didn't know Rock Hudson was gay, when his illness, and sexuality came to light, I was shocked.
There is a phrase used that I wish would be used today. He was a private person. Did not discuss his sexuality. I am so sick and tired of people talking about their sexuality.
Hear, hear ❤
They don't do it because they want to. They do it because the tabloids and press are vicious and relentless. 😡
I agree. I'm not interested in your laundry flying in the breeze!
I agree. But now people talk about their private parts and their intimate experiences as if its perfectly acceptable. I find their vulgar expressions sickening.
That's so typical coming from a straight person who society has catered to her whole life. Gay people come out of the closet to show society that they exist, to educate people against the ignorance they've been taught about them, and that there are more gay people out there than most people realize. So many straight people just can't step out of the perspectives they've grown up with (and yes, the word is "privilege") and see others' points of views who are different than they are. Maybe if you were bullied and beaten up just for being yourself while growing up you might actually understand that. If all you can see is people "talking about their private parts," that's pretty sad.
Why have you got a picture of Lawrence Olivier with the caption 'Michael Redgrave' over it?
The least you could do is fix the many typos.
This is hilarious. Absolutely everyone knew these men were homosexual. There was nothing secret about their behavior or demeanors.
Anthony Perkins was openly gay at the start of his career and made no secret of it.
Not true. Perkins was closeted and intensely paranoid about it for the majority of his career. He had a number of beard girlfriends, including Pier Angeli.
Who did your sub-titles? Melania Trump?
Jeez! First, Gene Kelly was not gay… married three times and had three kids. Also, his name was spelled “Gene Kelly”, not “Jean”. Please folks who made this: pull your head out of your ass.
It's nobody's business. JMO.
THEN WHY DID YOU WATCH?
@@rtshaw3621 Exactly!
Homosexual men used to be described as confirmed bachelors.
I don't think it's fair to say somebody is gay when they were married their entire life and denied any such gay rumors. Then when they are dead, make a video saying they were gay. If they were gay and never confirmed or denied it, then congratulations because that's the way it should be, private.
A photo of Lawrence Olivier when they are discussing Michael Redgrave. Says it all for the standards set in this video.
How many times do we have to be told about these actors being gay? It is not news.
As many times as it takes to get homophobes to just move on.
@@yvonneplant9434 Heterophobes are so funny.
And who cares, so sad they had to hide.
That’s John Travolta, not Divine. You used the wrong footage.
I was born in the 70s and I have to say, I'd prefer people keeping their sexuality to themselves. It's a private matter and certainly nothing to be "proud" of.
...or ashamed of either.
You said Tab Hunter had a relationship with Tony Perkins, but showed a photo of Tony Randall
Surprised Merv Griffin wasn't mentioned.
Never heard anything about Gene Kelly, ever
"It's none of your damn business" - Tim Walz
Interesting video. Note: SAL MINeo. Not SAL MinAYO. Several other names are also mispronounced.
I remember when Sir Michael Redgrave was just plain old Larry Olivier.
Why would anyone be concerned about someone's sexual preference or none at all?
Welcome to the 21st century. I wanna know what goes on in people's underpants. Don't you?
Because anyone deviating from a perceived "normal" code of behavior, draws attention to their situation.
@@curbozerboomer1773 Closet? Do you even know what that meant?
'Anyone' may wish to form an intimate relationship, including a sexual one. It's only fair that people are honest and don't exploit, use and/or experiment with interested others and lead them up the garden path.
Because the notion of having to be closeted telegraphs that there is something wrong with being gay...that it need to be hidden. While it doesn't have huge consequences for mature adults, for young people struggling with their sexuality and the shame with having to hide their secret often leads to bad consequences. The more normal, healthy and visible gay role models there are, the safer it is for young people to be themselves.
No to Gene Kelly
It is so easy to jump to conclusions when people are dead and can't defend themselves. If people are
“fiercely privet” it doesn't mean they are gay. It just means they dont choose to tell you everything.
" privet "??? Try it as ' private'.
A few were pretty obviously gay. As with George Michael
I can’t believe John Inman was gay ? I thought he was married with a wife and 5 children. What a shock.
Just about sums up the quality of this video.
several of the photos of "Divine" are of John Travolta, from the movie Hairspray. Walken played the husband
What are you saying? John Travolta doesn't fly straight? Gone off course? He's a pilot, you know.
Why is Jimmy Stewart’s picture on here??
I am a deeply closeted homosexual man. A deeply closeted fellow would never tell people that he was gay. That's me. I would never say to people that I am gay. I'm deeply closeted.
@@TimCarter ARE YOU HAPPY THEN AND NOW WELL WHATS IT GOT TO DO WITH ANYONE
JUST BE HAPPY AND TELL THE REST TO KISS ASS AND GO GET A LIFE …..YOU HAVE TO BE HAPPY ☕️🧁❤️.
THE 🌍WILL GO AROUND NO MATTER WHAT ❤️❤️❤️❤️🌈
Such as a photo of Alex Guiness and saying he is Vincent Price. Good grief, who is your editor?
Alec Guiness not Alex.
Alec. !!
I wish all of Hollywood would keep their lives private gay or not gay!