This validates my statement: "Either that Stasis Titan has no idea what they're doing, or they've tapped into the potential of Ice Shards and are about to absolutely destroy us."
Also, some things to mention. Fighting Lion reloads faster when you shoot your own crystals, as it counts as damage (it's iffy though). Getting an armor charge before you hurl yourself at an enemy with shiver strike only means that they will die if they punch you before your melee connects, as you gain more charges when connecting the shiver strike itself. If you do the typical shiver strike + melee combo, it's 4 stacks of armor charge with stacks on stacks. This means you can fly into a 1v3 and potentially wipe the next two if they instinctively punch you. Also, when your howl of the storm freezes, it does damage too, so you get armor charges from both the crystals hitting and the punch to shatter. If using whisper of bonds, it's an orb as well. If you're trying to howl as many people, it's probably not worth the bonds fragment, especially if you already have elemental charge. I just thought it's hilarious to be able to get 6 armor charges from playing the game _completely_ the same as you would normally. This is one of the best new builds for sure.
You can bypass this 'bug' by equipping a yellow armor charge mod. For instance, I use "Restorative Finisher" because its cheap and has no chance of activating in pvp.
I use it on striker in 6s. Works great in checkmate. And it's REALLY funny. A shoulder charge stacking up 4 armor charge is crazy for suicide charges in their team.
I appreciate when Cam unleashes the full potential of my favorite goofy exotics. Now I can continue to live my dream of being an electric fence that zaps birds and children alike
Fighting Lion is not affected by Void HOLSTERS btw. While they made the reloaders element specific, they didn't remove the restrictions to Breech GLs and Rockets to prevent a Mod from having the power of the Auto-Loading Holster perk
This is wrong you have loaders and holsters confused, I do not know if loaders work on fighting lion but they work on bows, rockets and other breach gls
Void Loader drops it from 2.66s to 2.12s reload time per d2foundry, but it's possible there's a special-case they haven't gotten to there, like a lot of exotic weapons
You just gotta love that Bungie states that "the damage dealt by the burst of Arc energy should be comparable to its current damage for 0-3 stacks of armor charge" implying that it would still work at 0 stacks yet it just straight up doesn't function like it did before.
Cammy you beautiful bastard! ❤❤❤ I was so bummed out when Feedbacks got this change! Pretty impressed this is a Stasis Build of all Subclasses!! Definitely going to try this out, I dont really have a Stasis Titan Build either so this will fill a gap in my Build Crafting also.
I been trying this build but can't get used to FL, however it's pretty fun to use Cryosthesia with whisper of rime. Even if you're not in range for charging your melee, freezing people gives you a good opportunity of killing people without fighting back, besides that you can get the free armor charges with your tech shown
Unless you plain just don't like using Fighting Lion you should definitely put in the time to get decent with it. You can force stacks to rage quit because it can be used to counter so many stally tactics that teams use.
I personally wouldn't use surge mods in longer plays, using even 1 will make your stacks decay If you want to max out for stats with elemental charge and time dilation, go ahead but it might be good to have a loadout ready to stop eating your stacks in a longer game, maybe even utility kickstart could be good
i made a video on feedback fence recently and I used a very effective build in trials with arc. Feedback in my opinion got better with this update. People are stupid and they ALWAYS melee up close
Waiting for people to max the glaive style with these new exotics. I was getting up to 9 ACD “melee” feedback kills a game with my glaive style arc Titan. I imagine the updates made it worse but I haven’t had time to test it out. Fingers crossed that it’s actually better🤞🏽
It's mid at best, cammy could make any build work but the setup needed for the build to work is enough for the other team to play around it. Don't be fooled by gameplay against 0.5s and the fact that you could give cammy a broomstick and he still snipe people with it. In mid to higher skill brackets this wouldn't be more than an annoyance. Still fun to fuck around tho
You can play really offensive on strand with grapple did it in trials last weekend. Kind of same thing have reaper/stacks on stacks. Get your first kill grab orb get armor charge. And then grapple into someone to reactively punch you and boom get another armor charge and go for the next guy lol. Also strand goes good with mask of the quiet one for ability/health regen I found
@@cptenn9419 mask gives ability energy when damaged so you get your strand abilities back super quick and It gives health back after killing some one while critically wounded. So would grapple mele someone and get health back then just have good ability up time. Nothing to wild just was fun in trials last weekend messing with those two builds. Ima warlock main
@@FattyStyleD2 Thanks for the reply. Ive been looking more to get into Strand PvP builds more and didnt have one with my Titan yet. And I already had a mask build going last week with Swash Bow+Thunderclap+Mask that was fun, so trying something similar with strand could be interesting.
@@cptenn9419 yeah try strand with mask your abilities regen super fast or try strand with AC/DCs I use banner of war and the suspend titan wall dunno the name of aspect. (Don’t really use it for the suspension since the suspension nerf, But I find it’s a better aspect then that fletching thing or whatever it’s called that puts you in the air like a sitting duck) I had a good time messing around in flawless pool on my titan after I made it to the house on my warlock. Like I said warlock main that was just looking to goof around and was trying to remember the good ol days of D1 with ACDCs and stumbled upon the mask build hahah If I were to pick a favorite probably AC/DC if you set up your mods right stack on stacks / reaper mod etc. you can play pretty aggressive. Not a lot of people expect you to come grapple in after chipping some damage and then that first kill gets ball rolling with right mods and ACDCS.
yo cammy, i run militia's birthright and fighting lion with skullfort and grenade ammo upgrades on all of my armor (old armor) is that even viable to come back and play pvp with? loved destroying people in crucible back in the day
Hey Cammy I've been trying out brood weaver and I think you should try Monte weave walk mindspun and eye of another world. Also make sure to use grapple melee :)
Been looking for something new for my titan in pvp, and this looks hella fun. ntm I'll take any reason to have fun with fighting lion. Thanks for the video glhf
This is my choice of titan exotic when I run bubble in trials. The extra AoE damage generated by the AC/DC allows you to easily overpower someone elses well/bubble. Especially if you include stacks on stacks in your build. While the nerf to AC/DC was sad they turned it into genuinely an impressive exotic, it serves as a great example of the flexibility of the armor charge system and the creative design spaces it opens up for exotic design.
What do you think of Slickdraw Bite of the Fox to go with FL? 43 zoom, so only a little more than Yasmin (which is my overall favorite sniper tbf), completely fixes the handling weakness 72s have, and high body shot damage means it's easier to clean up after a less accurate FL shot that ends up doing like 40 damage or whatever. AA cone penalty kinda sucks, but tbf it was never the highest AA sniper to begin with, and you can at least get OS to mitigate if it bothers you. Throw on Freehand Grip and it also has pretty good hipfire by sniper standards. Snipelion seems like a really good use case for it over a more traditionally-rolled sniper.
Hey Cammy, do you think that Biting Winds with swash would work instead of a snipe? It’s a weird double primary setup, but with swash you’d have primary 1-taps basically on demand
Hi cammy, I saw your gameplay and also EpicNate's videos, it seems like its a very hard to counter playstyle with the snipe lion. or at least its something that the community(and my self) almost never comes up to play against. what do you think is a counter to your play style. I'm not trying to pick holes or anything I'm just genuinely curious.
I cant believe they murdered this B tier exotic for no reason. its almost like people didn't know you could just SHOOT someone using feedback instead. on a First Person Shooter
Genuine question did a single person whos not a hard negative kd burger try to double melee you through a barricade in a situation like that instead of sliding in with a shotgun through it or going around if you literally just afk hardscope a lane
Bungie said they're gonna do some sandbox updates for Stasis in season 23, so perhaps that build will be better or worse in the near future. But turning a Nokris on it for PvP with stasis of all things is genius, not gonna lie.
I think he would use it with shard aspect and cryoclasm slide on cryosthesia freezes for the shard, plus melee orb mod, or lance and shard aspect if using a sniper (fusions happen to unfreeze before killing sometimes, but maybe it's just lag)
I forgot bungie butchered these. I used tobrun around with a glaive and witherhorde and just kamikaze around the map with a glaive. Well back to the only build i have on titan.
@@Manstruali still love my well planted + opening shot (100 range, stab, handling basically) comp sniper. Cryoslide kills are free pick basically and you get to slide cancel skate out of them if you want
Babe wake up cammy studied the dark arts again!!
I’m here daddy
😂😂
This validates my statement: "Either that Stasis Titan has no idea what they're doing, or they've tapped into the potential of Ice Shards and are about to absolutely destroy us."
I tried this weeks ago, but found out that orbs stop supplying armor charges when feedback fence is equipped. Once that's fixed, big yikes.
The strat will be to freeze and punch, which will drop an orb with bonds. Stacks on stacks means instant 4x armor charge, which is a 200 damage burst.
Also, some things to mention. Fighting Lion reloads faster when you shoot your own crystals, as it counts as damage (it's iffy though).
Getting an armor charge before you hurl yourself at an enemy with shiver strike only means that they will die if they punch you before your melee connects, as you gain more charges when connecting the shiver strike itself.
If you do the typical shiver strike + melee combo, it's 4 stacks of armor charge with stacks on stacks. This means you can fly into a 1v3 and potentially wipe the next two if they instinctively punch you.
Also, when your howl of the storm freezes, it does damage too, so you get armor charges from both the crystals hitting and the punch to shatter. If using whisper of bonds, it's an orb as well. If you're trying to howl as many people, it's probably not worth the bonds fragment, especially if you already have elemental charge. I just thought it's hilarious to be able to get 6 armor charges from playing the game _completely_ the same as you would normally.
This is one of the best new builds for sure.
You can bypass this 'bug' by equipping a yellow armor charge mod. For instance, I use "Restorative Finisher" because its cheap and has no chance of activating in pvp.
Manny ❤
Daddy
I use it on striker in 6s. Works great in checkmate. And it's REALLY funny.
A shoulder charge stacking up 4 armor charge is crazy for suicide charges in their team.
I got bagged by stacks so many times in checkmate for running these.
@@bleedshadowjokes on them for running stacked in fucking checkmate
I appreciate when Cam unleashes the full potential of my favorite goofy exotics. Now I can continue to live my dream of being an electric fence that zaps birds and children alike
Make sure to equip minor spec for bonus damage against children 👍
Wait. Teach me how?
🤣🤣🤣@@DragonSoulMusic
Fighting Lion is not affected by Void HOLSTERS btw. While they made the reloaders element specific, they didn't remove the restrictions to Breech GLs and Rockets to prevent a Mod from having the power of the Auto-Loading Holster perk
This is wrong you have loaders and holsters confused, I do not know if loaders work on fighting lion but they work on bows, rockets and other breach gls
Void Loader drops it from 2.66s to 2.12s reload time per d2foundry, but it's possible there's a special-case they haven't gotten to there, like a lot of exotic weapons
@@life-destiny1196 sorry I meant holsters. Loaders do work
Autoloading holster mods work on Bows.
It also works on parasite
You are the only person who has talked about this. Thank you Cammy. I wish they kept the automatic defense it had, it was really a PvP exotic imo.
The levels of build crafting enlightenment cammy is achieving rn....
You just gotta love that Bungie states that "the damage dealt by the burst of Arc energy should be comparable to its current damage for 0-3 stacks of armor charge" implying that it would still work at 0 stacks yet it just straight up doesn't function like it did before.
The C in ACD stands for Cammy.
Active Cammy Defense
Active Cammy Destruction
"THIS IS MY CRYSTAL. THERE ARE MANY CRYSTALS LIKE MY CRYSTAL BUT THIS CRYSTAL IS MINE." - Space Marine Cammy
that build was nuts to see haha. couldnt keep up with that aggression lmao. insane gameplay, gg's
soooon, we grab lasers for trials in 3's.
heck yeah! :P @@cammycakesgaming
Cammy you beautiful bastard! ❤❤❤
I was so bummed out when Feedbacks got this change! Pretty impressed this is a Stasis Build of all Subclasses!! Definitely going to try this out, I dont really have a Stasis Titan Build either so this will fill a gap in my Build Crafting also.
This is why I’ve been watching you for the last 8 years of my life
I been trying this build but can't get used to FL, however it's pretty fun to use Cryosthesia with whisper of rime.
Even if you're not in range for charging your melee, freezing people gives you a good opportunity of killing people without fighting back, besides that you can get the free armor charges with your tech shown
Unless you plain just don't like using Fighting Lion you should definitely put in the time to get decent with it. You can force stacks to rage quit because it can be used to counter so many stally tactics that teams use.
I need some more Warlock builds, my Master
cammy i have been running this on strand and arc, ty for the stasis wisdom
11:32 was so clean
"Oh nice cammycakes uploaded a new video!.... ARCANESWORD IS HERE TOO?!?!"
I personally wouldn't use surge mods in longer plays, using even 1 will make your stacks decay
If you want to max out for stats with elemental charge and time dilation, go ahead but it might be good to have a loadout ready to stop eating your stacks in a longer game, maybe even utility kickstart could be good
obsessed with thumbnail omg
Cammy letting out some legit sinister laughter at 2:21
cammy will always find a way to make feedback fence work
I don't know how often Cammy references Pokemon Stadium, so I'm just going to assume not enough
i made a video on feedback fence recently and I used a very effective build in trials with arc. Feedback in my opinion got better with this update. People are stupid and they ALWAYS melee up close
used melee siphon and it slaps
because of knockout, you cant get two meleed and you get your health back
What fragments did you use? 🤔
The great and mighty Fighting Lion!! Breaker of.....crystals. Giver of......armor charges? Slayer of.......a good energy pick?
I literally was about to look you up and you upload😂 that’s crazy
Behemoth has been my favorite subclass that dude Benny was a op behemoth too
Arc playstyle aint dead I can tell you that! Eternal Warrior is now my top pick for my arc builds. Check out the helmet!!!
Did you know feed back fence works with glaves
Waiting for people to max the glaive style with these new exotics. I was getting up to 9 ACD “melee” feedback kills a game with my glaive style arc Titan. I imagine the updates made it worse but I haven’t had time to test it out. Fingers crossed that it’s actually better🤞🏽
The coveted post-flawless adept drop
I just set up stacks on stacks, then made it so I get orbs from powered melee. Haven't switched from arc titan, and it seems more potent than before
Cammy Out here giving Titan options. God bless you.
Behemoths, rejoice!
It's mid at best, cammy could make any build work but the setup needed for the build to work is enough for the other team to play around it.
Don't be fooled by gameplay against 0.5s and the fact that you could give cammy a broomstick and he still snipe people with it.
In mid to higher skill brackets this wouldn't be more than an annoyance. Still fun to fuck around tho
@@rhn4710 by any chance do you have any ideas for an ethical void titan build?
You can play really offensive on strand with grapple did it in trials last weekend.
Kind of same thing have reaper/stacks on stacks. Get your first kill grab orb get armor charge. And then grapple into someone to reactively punch you and boom get another armor charge and go for the next guy lol.
Also strand goes good with mask of the quiet one for ability/health regen I found
What kind of setup do you run with Strand and Quiet one?
@@cptenn9419 mask gives ability energy when damaged so you get your strand abilities back super quick and It gives health back after killing some one while critically wounded. So would grapple mele someone and get health back then just have good ability up time. Nothing to wild just was fun in trials last weekend messing with those two builds. Ima warlock main
@@FattyStyleD2 Thanks for the reply. Ive been looking more to get into Strand PvP builds more and didnt have one with my Titan yet. And I already had a mask build going last week with Swash Bow+Thunderclap+Mask that was fun, so trying something similar with strand could be interesting.
@@cptenn9419 yeah try strand with mask your abilities regen super fast or try strand with AC/DCs I use banner of war and the suspend titan wall dunno the name of aspect. (Don’t really use it for the suspension since the suspension nerf, But I find it’s a better aspect then that fletching thing or whatever it’s called that puts you in the air like a sitting duck)
I had a good time messing around in flawless pool on my titan after I made it to the house on my warlock. Like I said warlock main that was just looking to goof around and was trying to remember the good ol days of D1 with ACDCs and stumbled upon the mask build hahah
If I were to pick a favorite probably AC/DC if you set up your mods right stack on stacks / reaper mod etc. you can play pretty aggressive. Not a lot of people expect you to come grapple in after chipping some damage and then that first kill gets ball rolling with right mods and ACDCS.
LETS GO NEW CAMMY VID
Those opposing teams leaving the crucible wondering why cammy had to stunt on em repeatedly
yo cammy, i run militia's birthright and fighting lion with skullfort and grenade ammo upgrades on all of my armor (old armor)
is that even viable to come back and play pvp with? loved destroying people in crucible back in the day
Hey Cammy I've been trying out brood weaver and I think you should try Monte weave walk mindspun and eye of another world. Also make sure to use grapple melee :)
It’s fucking insane in checkmate
It's nice cause you still keep two-punch shiver strike combo.
lmao i really love these thumbnails
Been looking for something new for my titan in pvp, and this looks hella fun. ntm I'll take any reason to have fun with fighting lion.
Thanks for the video glhf
This is my choice of titan exotic when I run bubble in trials. The extra AoE damage generated by the AC/DC allows you to easily overpower someone elses well/bubble. Especially if you include stacks on stacks in your build.
While the nerf to AC/DC was sad they turned it into genuinely an impressive exotic, it serves as a great example of the flexibility of the armor charge system and the creative design spaces it opens up for exotic design.
Not much of a lion player, but threw this on with my normal loadout and loving it so far
The random quotes you were throwing out from Pokemon Colosseum right? I'm like 99% positive lmfao
What do you think of Slickdraw Bite of the Fox to go with FL? 43 zoom, so only a little more than Yasmin (which is my overall favorite sniper tbf), completely fixes the handling weakness 72s have, and high body shot damage means it's easier to clean up after a less accurate FL shot that ends up doing like 40 damage or whatever. AA cone penalty kinda sucks, but tbf it was never the highest AA sniper to begin with, and you can at least get OS to mitigate if it bothers you. Throw on Freehand Grip and it also has pretty good hipfire by sniper standards. Snipelion seems like a really good use case for it over a more traditionally-rolled sniper.
Hey Cammy, do you think that Biting Winds with swash would work instead of a snipe? It’s a weird double primary setup, but with swash you’d have primary 1-taps basically on demand
scared this will be the new antaeus wards
What a thumbnail… nice work
People called me crazy when I said it was nerfed heavily. The new rework is cool but damn
people only get hard when they see 100s but the stats on that armor set are insane
AND YOU PUT FONTS ON EVERYTHING?
legit thought i was the only person who did this
Hi cammy, I saw your gameplay and also EpicNate's videos, it seems like its a very hard to counter playstyle with the snipe lion. or at least its something that the community(and my self) almost never comes up to play against. what do you think is a counter to your play style. I'm not trying to pick holes or anything I'm just genuinely curious.
I cant believe they murdered this B tier exotic for no reason. its almost like people didn't know you could just SHOOT someone using feedback instead. on a First Person Shooter
Just got the feedback fence. Does it make it so melee kickstart doesn’t work? Mine doesn’t but I’m not sure if it’s a glitch.
I am so fucking scared by this
BRILLIANT
And you were playing with ArcaneSword as if THAT WASN'T ENOUGH!
I miss old feedback fence....
Does anyone know what black shader hes using for his titan? looks sick!
Locus locutus might be good with this
Can never get enough of folks dying to Lion, such a goofy weapon needs more love tbh
this is crazy
Genuine question did a single person whos not a hard negative kd burger try to double melee you through a barricade in a situation like that instead of sliding in with a shotgun through it or going around if you literally just afk hardscope a lane
Cameron cake
For Meseta huh? Does cammy still play Pso2? NGS?
Will run Div for meseta lol love it
This looks fun and all but i'll still get my face caved in by a Juggernaut Antaeus Arc Titan running at me with a shotgun :(
does this shine some light into flechette storm in pvp?
Monte Carlo
Once I have some free time, we should 6 stack this build in IB 😂
Yeah I got spit on versing you. Was trying to carry a friend and you got paired with like Arcane sword and his homie. Match was brutal lmao
Bungie said they're gonna do some sandbox updates for Stasis in season 23, so perhaps that build will be better or worse in the near future.
But turning a Nokris on it for PvP with stasis of all things is genius, not gonna lie.
you gotta do a guide on behemoth melee, you go for miles compared to me
Was that "Sparks are flying" a Warframe reference? :V
Does this still work in the current meta?
I feel like paragrine gives more opportunities no?
Ive gotta see this played with Manstrual 😂
I think he would use it with shard aspect and cryoclasm slide on cryosthesia freezes for the shard, plus melee orb mod, or lance and shard aspect if using a sniper (fusions happen to unfreeze before killing sometimes, but maybe it's just lag)
Finally seen somebody else wasting only 2 stat points. 👍🏼
make a warlock strand build.
So Feedback Fence is backwards Liar's Handshake now?
There are many crystals like this but this is my crystal 😅
What shader is he using
0:56 do you mean 100 strength but you're talking in pre 2.0 terms?
No font of vigor he literally showed you. It gives you 30 strength when you have armour charge.... 100 strength
Nice
o yea
im a behemoth player i would like to get in on this
Feedback fence with behemoth is also pretty fun
I'm level 99 necromancy, but I prefer melee and mage.
I forgot bungie butchered these.
I used tobrun around with a glaive and witherhorde and just kamikaze around the map with a glaive.
Well back to the only build i have on titan.
btw this season's sniper is a 40 zoom with overflow + opening shot (unfortunately), might be worth to take a look
With gallu being focusable soon, that's what is to be looked forward to
@@Manstruali still love my well planted + opening shot (100 range, stab, handling basically) comp sniper. Cryoslide kills are free pick basically and you get to slide cancel skate out of them if you want
Idk every time I use this i just get shotgunned
its crazy how much it takes to make behemoth be decent, least plug and play class in the game
Adc was fine, people crying about it were literall skill diff'd and couldn't play against melee lmao
I subscribed, please invite two more Behemoths to your fireteam regardless. I will be number 2 or 3 if you need it.
Jesus Christ
Cope pve w
Just hearing the words fighting lion makes me want to play this game even less. A infinite ammo GL..... really Bungie. SMH