Thanks! I think at this moment I probably post too much of a niche category, so I am looking to diversify content, but also make sure to include the people that are watching now! Thanks for watching and the complement!
Just got my '02 back yesterday from the shop after a LBJ failure. Glad you went OEM and are keeping it serviced. Interested to hear your experience on the 891's. After a lot of reading on the t4r forum I ended up ordering 890's as I don't carry a lot of weight and only tow a couple times a year.
OEM is certainly needed for LBJ's, it sucks you had to go through that. Also yeah, I do feel like the ride is slightly stiffer than I would like it to be, but eventual I plan on doing a new drawer system and probably a rooftop tent so I don't want to sag too much. good luck with installing them though.
@@mattuccibuilt3970 haha. Lessons learned. Oh cool, from what I hear you’re going to be in great shape after those additions. Look forward to more vids.
Excellent video! My 2001 4Runner is so bouncy my mom won't ride in it (it hurts her neck) & I don't like how bouncy it is for myself even! It's a two-wheel drive, stock suspension factory 16-in rims, even Michelin tires, buy it still rides like a jumping jack on a pogo stick! if I do these upgrades you've done, will my 4Runner become even bouncier or more smooth?
For me, my 4runner had a floaty squishy feel before these but now it's stiffer and has a more stable feel so if youd like a suspension upgrade with a lift for offroad then yes I recommend these. But also it sounds like any new OEM or oe replacement suspension will take care of your problem if you don't necessarily need better offroad performance.
I am not completely sure, I do have some angle to my front upper control arms and want to do some new ones to adjust for it. I haven't worked on a 5th gen but from my knowledge the suspension geometry is very similar to the 3rd gens. My parents have a 5th gen 4Runner and got the dealership 'leveling' kit for warranty reasons so I'll look more at those arms to see any differences.
I believe that it will, the bottom of the 5100's have 4 slots that you can put the clip that holds the bottom of the spring mount. So you have 4 different options for height adjustment, and I'm sure someone has done them all with stock coil springs to see the heights, possibly check the forums? The old man emu springs that I put on recommend running it on the bottom perch so it has the most room because it is a taller and stiffer spring. But I think it's a decent option to do an even more budget lift with the OEM springs.
Google translate is failing me, I think that you're possibly asking about the spring falling out of the rear perch? Only under very rare circumstance the spring will come out, Toyota has a good design.
I had a catastrophic LBJ failure on my 01 last week (doing 65...) and am rebuilding the whole suspension and will be using your setup for shocks/struts. Have you had any issues w the CV axle boots rubbing since you lifted it? Especially since you didn't do a diff drop.
Wow! That's fast for it to fail, I hope everyone involved is doing good. The cv axle boots do not rub on any other components, but they do technically rub more on themselves now. Any lift will do this and if you have factory cv's that 20-27 year old rubber will most likely split. I don't feel the diff drop would have done anything but get in the way of the skid plate, especially with how small the lift is, but it could get slightly more longevity out of cv boots.
They're doing pretty good! I did have a problem on the driver's side but I think it was either my fault or pandemic quality products. The top hat had some wear because the shaft of the shock had the wrong interaction. I have seen this setup many times and those people don't seem to have any issues at all.
The rc kit doesn't look like a bad option, from what I've heard rough country = rough ride, but I've never ran the kit so I can't say for sure. Bilstein/OME is the most budget setup when it comes to slightly higher quality suspension, that is of course subjective, and for me it fit the budget perfectly, so technically it is budget ;) I also do not see if you can get heavy spring rates in the rc and I wanted them. I had spacers on there before and those are the most budget it gets, they are that price for a reason though, same with on the other end, foxes, kings, dobinsons, icons, etc
@@mattuccibuilt3970 ok totally understand can't blame ya going that route if it is in your budget. unfortunately my budget isn't that much and was looking into the rc kit
Looking for a 2 inch lift from factory and every lift video I watch uses 5100s but with a different combination of springs. So confusing! I understand if you have heavy front/rear bumpers you require heavier springs, but whats the best OME combo for stock weight?
It is confusing! My front 881's gave pretty close to 2" and I think the 890 in the rear would give pretty close to 2". If you have a little bit of time though, I would recommend saving a little more and getting 2.0 shocks and springs from someone like Bilstein, Fox, or Icon, that's what I wish I would have done.
@vbnautical5041 2.0 just refers to the shock body diameter, the bigger the better in almost all regards with shocks. I spoke without doing much research though, Bilstein doesn't technically make a 2.0 the 5100 looks like a 1.95" diameter. I'd look into the 6112's for the front if sticking with Bilstein, but the 5100's are very good overall.
I have a 2002 Sr5 4runner 2wd and will be carring alot of camping gear in the back and the front has a brushguard. With your experience what spring 890's 891's and shocks would you recommend as I would like to lift my 4runner above stock height as I plan on doing some light overlanding in the future but im doing this on a budget.
891's are recommended for around 150 extra pounds, the 890's should just give more lift, and not necessarily support extra weight. So if your gear gets more than 150lbs I would do the 891's. I'm not sure how the fronts work on 2wd's, they may have a different setup. Bilstein 5100's for the shocks. This is great for a lower budget.
I'm not an expert, but from my interpretations, the longer sway bar links level or straighten the sway bar where as if it's non-level or angled it's puts tension on the other suspension components because it is acting like a reverse spring. It also creates less travel overall I think because it is fighting the suspension when it is at max travel/droop especially when one side of the car is fully compressed and the other side is fully drooped.
@@Emperor_1971 I wasn't able to upload added video/pictures to this video, so I made a post on Facebook - facebook.com/MattucciBuilt. Thanks for the input! I don't know how I missed something so important.
@@mattuccibuilt3970 looks good was it a 3 inch lift ? I have a 01 sr5 just want a lil lift like 1.5 to 2 inch I have the rear ome 906 atm but hasn’t install yet n probably go with the 880 up front
@@Emperor_1971 Yeah according to yotamafia.com/product/1995-2002-toyota-4runner-lift-kit/ (the link should be 1996-2002) the 880's in the front will give you about 1.5" with the 5100. The 906's in the rear will give around 2" so that would be perfect for what you want. I put the 881's in the front (should be 2" but I got about 1.5") and the 891's in the rear and got around 3", but can handle a lot more weight. I plan on doing a rear bumper, roof rack, rooftop tent, and a larger drawer system in the back, so I may even eventually go to the 883's in the front.
@@mattuccibuilt3970 - Like your videos because they are real. Alot of people just puts in the stuff they figured out after 10 tries. So I don't get to learn from their mistakes.
Keep these vids coming! I have a 3rd Gen I wanna get to building soon aha
Thanks for the support and good luck on your build! I'm happy to put out videos if even one person watches them!
Very good thanks!
I got a 3rd gen I'm gonna start perfecting soon
Sounds great! It's a very good platform! Good luck with your build
Your page should have way more followers. I just subscribed , you have great content
Thanks! I think at this moment I probably post too much of a niche category, so I am looking to diversify content, but also make sure to include the people that are watching now! Thanks for watching and the complement!
@@mattuccibuilt3970 no problem. I will buy everything in this video. I just bought a 97 4runner with 227,500 miles for $1400
Just got my '02 back yesterday from the shop after a LBJ failure. Glad you went OEM and are keeping it serviced. Interested to hear your experience on the 891's. After a lot of reading on the t4r forum I ended up ordering 890's as I don't carry a lot of weight and only tow a couple times a year.
OEM is certainly needed for LBJ's, it sucks you had to go through that. Also yeah, I do feel like the ride is slightly stiffer than I would like it to be, but eventual I plan on doing a new drawer system and probably a rooftop tent so I don't want to sag too much. good luck with installing them though.
@@mattuccibuilt3970 haha. Lessons learned. Oh cool, from what I hear you’re going to be in great shape after those additions. Look forward to more vids.
Great content again! Thank you!
Thank you for watching and you're welcome!
FYI to replace to struts you do not need to remove ether ball joints. The strut unbolts and can be removed as is.
That's good to know, thanks! I hate replacing the ball joint bolts every time.
Great Job..Keep Up The Great Work 👍 💯👍💯👍
Thank you!
Good information brother thanks
Of course, thank you for watching!
Excellent video! My 2001 4Runner is so bouncy my mom won't ride in it (it hurts her neck) & I don't like how bouncy it is for myself even! It's a two-wheel drive, stock suspension factory 16-in rims, even Michelin tires, buy it still rides like a jumping jack on a pogo stick! if I do these upgrades you've done, will my 4Runner become even bouncier or more smooth?
For me, my 4runner had a floaty squishy feel before these but now it's stiffer and has a more stable feel so if youd like a suspension upgrade with a lift for offroad then yes I recommend these. But also it sounds like any new OEM or oe replacement suspension will take care of your problem if you don't necessarily need better offroad performance.
Where did you get your headlights from?
Check out the first video I made!
Why these year when you do a 2.5 lift uca is straight but when you do a 2.5 on a 5th gen you get uca angle
I am not completely sure, I do have some angle to my front upper control arms and want to do some new ones to adjust for it. I haven't worked on a 5th gen but from my knowledge the suspension geometry is very similar to the 3rd gens. My parents have a 5th gen 4Runner and got the dealership 'leveling' kit for warranty reasons so I'll look more at those arms to see any differences.
I have a question, which slot you are setting for front strut ? 5100 pair with Oldman emu 881 ? Thanks
The bottom slot, any aftermarket springs should use the bottom from my understanding. Only OEM can use the other slots.
did u know if you can run the oem front coil spring with the bilstein 5100 strut to 2 inch lift setup ?
I believe that it will, the bottom of the 5100's have 4 slots that you can put the clip that holds the bottom of the spring mount. So you have 4 different options for height adjustment, and I'm sure someone has done them all with stock coil springs to see the heights, possibly check the forums? The old man emu springs that I put on recommend running it on the bottom perch so it has the most room because it is a taller and stiffer spring. But I think it's a decent option to do an even more budget lift with the OEM springs.
Al poner el muelle arriba de la alza amigo no se queda moviendo el resorte ya colocado en el camion ??
Google translate is failing me, I think that you're possibly asking about the spring falling out of the rear perch? Only under very rare circumstance the spring will come out, Toyota has a good design.
Can you drive a lifted 4Runner for daily driving ?
Yeah, I do it every day.
I had a catastrophic LBJ failure on my 01 last week (doing 65...) and am rebuilding the whole suspension and will be using your setup for shocks/struts. Have you had any issues w the CV axle boots rubbing since you lifted it? Especially since you didn't do a diff drop.
Wow! That's fast for it to fail, I hope everyone involved is doing good. The cv axle boots do not rub on any other components, but they do technically rub more on themselves now. Any lift will do this and if you have factory cv's that 20-27 year old rubber will most likely split. I don't feel the diff drop would have done anything but get in the way of the skid plate, especially with how small the lift is, but it could get slightly more longevity out of cv boots.
how is she holding up? i heard the 5100s will only work with oem springs and oem springs are 150 about a pop :(
They're doing pretty good! I did have a problem on the driver's side but I think it was either my fault or pandemic quality products. The top hat had some wear because the shaft of the shock had the wrong interaction. I have seen this setup many times and those people don't seem to have any issues at all.
Do I need change my end links for like 1.5 to 2 inch lift ? The rear end links seen short but the front look ok
I think it's a good idea, but not completely necessary, some people don't even run their sway bars so it's up to you!
@@mattuccibuilt3970 ok just curious cause I don’t off-road just daily just wondering if it makes any difference in handling to
@@Emperor_1971did you end up changing your rear links with your 2" lift? Im thinking about adding a 2" lift to my 02 Runner 2wd.
@@ddemier yes I did on the rear and front tho I don’t think I needed for the front but I went n do it anyways
Budget suspension??? Looks to be about $1000 there what about the 3 in high country lift for around $550
The rc kit doesn't look like a bad option, from what I've heard rough country = rough ride, but I've never ran the kit so I can't say for sure. Bilstein/OME is the most budget setup when it comes to slightly higher quality suspension, that is of course subjective, and for me it fit the budget perfectly, so technically it is budget ;) I also do not see if you can get heavy spring rates in the rc and I wanted them. I had spacers on there before and those are the most budget it gets, they are that price for a reason though, same with on the other end, foxes, kings, dobinsons, icons, etc
@@mattuccibuilt3970 ok totally understand can't blame ya going that route if it is in your budget. unfortunately my budget isn't that much and was looking into the rc kit
How does it ride on regular roads and highway
I would say pretty normal, maybe slightly stiffer, but it does great for the average mall crawler 😉
Looking for a 2 inch lift from factory and every lift video I watch uses 5100s but with a different combination of springs. So confusing! I understand if you have heavy front/rear bumpers you require heavier springs, but whats the best OME combo for stock weight?
It is confusing! My front 881's gave pretty close to 2" and I think the 890 in the rear would give pretty close to 2". If you have a little bit of time though, I would recommend saving a little more and getting 2.0 shocks and springs from someone like Bilstein, Fox, or Icon, that's what I wish I would have done.
@@mattuccibuilt3970 wait…theres 2.0 models now? Haha. Whats that
@vbnautical5041 2.0 just refers to the shock body diameter, the bigger the better in almost all regards with shocks. I spoke without doing much research though, Bilstein doesn't technically make a 2.0 the 5100 looks like a 1.95" diameter. I'd look into the 6112's for the front if sticking with Bilstein, but the 5100's are very good overall.
I have a 2002 Sr5 4runner 2wd and will be carring alot of camping gear in the back and the front has a brushguard. With your experience what spring 890's 891's and shocks would you recommend as I would like to lift my 4runner above stock height as I plan on doing some light overlanding in the future but im doing this on a budget.
891's are recommended for around 150 extra pounds, the 890's should just give more lift, and not necessarily support extra weight. So if your gear gets more than 150lbs I would do the 891's. I'm not sure how the fronts work on 2wd's, they may have a different setup. Bilstein 5100's for the shocks. This is great for a lower budget.
@@mattuccibuilt3970was this a 3inch lift you installed?
You are good
Thank you very much!
What type of headlights set up is that? Looks good.
Check out my channel, theyre custom!
Can the arrows or spheres be damaged with the amigo front sight kit?
I don't know what you mean by this question. Are you talking about a topic different from front suspension?
Great job. Is your rig 2wd or 4wd?
4wd, there was a brief moment I talked about the front cv axle angles changing with lift.
Thanks...So is this mod only beneficial on lifted vehicles?
Yes, because the links are set up for stock ride height.
Some people do new ones because the bushings get old and bad and it performs like there are no sway bar end links at all.
Are the Bilsteins for a Runner or Tundra, or something else?
They are specifically for the 3rd gen 4runner, the link to them is in the description of the video
What did the Bilstein and Old Man EMU set up cost you all together?
Around $850!
I see where people are changing to longer links. But not understanding reason why exactly.
I'm not an expert, but from my interpretations, the longer sway bar links level or straighten the sway bar where as if it's non-level or angled it's puts tension on the other suspension components because it is acting like a reverse spring. It also creates less travel overall I think because it is fighting the suspension when it is at max travel/droop especially when one side of the car is fully compressed and the other side is fully drooped.
Cool mod… what size tires do you have?
Now they're, 265/75r16's
Where did you get the head lights
Watch part 1 on my channel ☺️ I "created" them
Pics of the truck after all the install ?
There are some around 18:07, but I'll do some more tomorrow at the very end for you 👍🏼
@@mattuccibuilt3970 yea wasn’t enough I want see all around lol
@@Emperor_1971 I wasn't able to upload added video/pictures to this video, so I made a post on Facebook - facebook.com/MattucciBuilt. Thanks for the input! I don't know how I missed something so important.
@@mattuccibuilt3970 looks good was it a 3 inch lift ? I have a 01 sr5 just want a lil lift like 1.5 to 2 inch I have the rear ome 906 atm but hasn’t install yet n probably go with the 880 up front
@@Emperor_1971 Yeah according to yotamafia.com/product/1995-2002-toyota-4runner-lift-kit/ (the link should be 1996-2002) the 880's in the front will give you about 1.5" with the 5100. The 906's in the rear will give around 2" so that would be perfect for what you want. I put the 881's in the front (should be 2" but I got about 1.5") and the 891's in the rear and got around 3", but can handle a lot more weight. I plan on doing a rear bumper, roof rack, rooftop tent, and a larger drawer system in the back, so I may even eventually go to the 883's in the front.
Do more! More!
I'm working on them for sure! I should have another video posted tomorrow, time is difficult to come by right now, and thank you for your support.
@@mattuccibuilt3970 - Like your videos because they are real. Alot of people just puts in the stuff they figured out after 10 tries. So I don't get to learn from their mistakes.
Where do you get OEM LBJ
I got mine from a guy on Facebook, lol. I would recommend the closest Toyota dealership though.
Not to happy with your video for not showing when installing the parts sock's
I'd be upset if my parts had feet that required socks too! All joking aside, what do you mean?