Quantic Dream's David Cage on the Do's and Don'ts of Narrative Gaming - Comic Con 2019

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  • @ryleybenson1009
    @ryleybenson1009 5 років тому +186

    Is David "Indigo Prophecy" Cage really the most qualified to give advice on the subject?

    • @diegomedina9637
      @diegomedina9637 5 років тому +20

      Never forget that 52% completion.

    • @xensonar9652
      @xensonar9652 5 років тому +16

      I loved that game.

    • @ErgoDog
      @ErgoDog 5 років тому +2

      Yess!

    • @ryleybenson1009
      @ryleybenson1009 5 років тому +17

      @@diegomedina9637 The thing that angered me most by far is how he had the audacity to spend the end of the game ripping off DBZ

    • @ErgosProxy
      @ErgosProxy 5 років тому +12

      I literally came here to say how much I loved that game and this is the first comment I see. 😂

  • @MrCodeman93
    @MrCodeman93 3 роки тому +40

    Having David Cage provide insight to creating compelling narratives is like asking Tyler Perry how to write black women as three-dimensional characters.

    • @WooBino.
      @WooBino. 10 місяців тому +1

      Three people you've never met.

  • @L1nkn1vy
    @L1nkn1vy 5 років тому +130

    Interviewer: So how do you create such successful games?
    Cage: eMoTiONs

  • @JamesGhodbane
    @JamesGhodbane 5 років тому +109

    Detroit was an amazing game can't wait their next project

    • @Anal_Flute
      @Anal_Flute 3 роки тому +2

      Me too it's definitely in the top 5 for me

  • @Dovah_Dogma
    @Dovah_Dogma 5 років тому +68

    Ah Mr. SBFP content himself

  • @spidercat2841
    @spidercat2841 5 років тому +54

    I honestly loved Detroit especially Kara.
    It's just that the walking is too slow

    • @jeeroylenkins3081
      @jeeroylenkins3081 5 років тому +8

      Yeah in urgent parts where you should have really been running for some reason you walk at the speed of a snail while there is a timer counting down lol

    • @thechrisman1345
      @thechrisman1345 3 роки тому

      Oh my lord the WALKING😩 should at least give us a run or walk faster button

    • @wildman7220
      @wildman7220 3 роки тому

      @@jeeroylenkins3081 not at all

    • @jeeroylenkins3081
      @jeeroylenkins3081 3 роки тому

      @@wildman7220 thanks for your useless input on a year old comment

  • @rushjl92
    @rushjl92 5 років тому +53

    should he really be doling out advice.

    • @diegomedina9637
      @diegomedina9637 5 років тому +27

      I made ze bad game.

    • @ErgoDog
      @ErgoDog 5 років тому +11

      If you look at the writing and story of most games, then yes.

    • @lukea.3729
      @lukea.3729 5 років тому +2

      Diego Medina Wtf is your problem?

  • @jeeroylenkins3081
    @jeeroylenkins3081 5 років тому +38

    For your next game PLEASE make the romance aspects better. North and Markus's relationship was way too rushed.
    (
    That being said, thanks for even adding romance to the game)

    • @wildman7220
      @wildman7220 3 роки тому +2

      It was actually well written considering the pacing and purpose.

    • @jeeroylenkins3081
      @jeeroylenkins3081 3 роки тому +1

      @@wildman7220 No, it wasn't. It had the foundation to be well written but...it wasn't.

    • @wildman7220
      @wildman7220 3 роки тому +1

      @@jeeroylenkins3081 Considering the pacing and Focus, yes, it was.

    • @aliagha8401
      @aliagha8401 3 роки тому

      wait they had romance?!

    • @topdog5252
      @topdog5252 2 роки тому

      Agreed

  • @IonMario94
    @IonMario94 5 років тому +42

    What’s next? Benioff and Weiss on how to end a Tv show properly?

    • @diegomedina9637
      @diegomedina9637 5 років тому +16

      That's after DCs "how to successfully make a cinematic universe" panel.

    • @michaelmaguire4147
      @michaelmaguire4147 5 років тому +10

      @@diegomedina9637 Co-chaired by Universal Monsters

    • @MotherBra1n
      @MotherBra1n 3 роки тому

      hahahahahaha brilliant

    • @muskatDR
      @muskatDR 3 роки тому +2

      Uwe Boll on how to make movies

  • @KyleS.1987
    @KyleS.1987 5 років тому +33

    The best parts of Detroit were improvised by Clancy Brown (Hank) and Bryan Dechart (Connor). Quantic Dream games would be a hundred times better if David Cage wasn't writing them. His writing is all ham-handed metaphors and unsatisfying resolutions.

    • @josejalipano
      @josejalipano 4 роки тому +8

      The androids go to the back of the bus!
      DON'T YOU GET IT? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE SUBTLETY?

  • @dihyaneverforget5163
    @dihyaneverforget5163 5 років тому +69

    the last thing i want is advice from gaming biggest hack

    • @BackyardPix
      @BackyardPix 5 років тому +4

      He's close to being gaming's Tommy Wiseau, in a way. I think it's kinda cute. Hahaha.

    • @admiralpepper6933
      @admiralpepper6933 5 років тому

      @@BackyardPix
      That is totally an insult to my rubber baby face boy Tommy, you take that back!

    • @YellowSabre
      @YellowSabre 3 роки тому

      @@admiralpepper6933 He did not insult him it’s not true it’s bull💩 he did not insult him, he did naaht. Oh hi Admiral

  • @vegashawk4066
    @vegashawk4066 5 років тому +16

    Going slightly against public opinion I love Quantic Dream games. I grew up reading choose your own adventure books and these games for me represent an evolution of those experiences.

    • @YellowSabre
      @YellowSabre 3 роки тому

      Public Opinion *V*
      [HATED]

    • @bignasty389
      @bignasty389 2 роки тому

      I’d rather just read a choose your own adventure book.

  • @Molimo95
    @Molimo95 5 років тому +30

    how would he know?

  • @rushjl92
    @rushjl92 5 років тому +36

    More like Do's and Don't of Pretentious Games

  • @noone6223
    @noone6223 4 роки тому +17

    It's terrible how a lot of people hate on the guy... I personally love his games

    • @princeequalizer3715
      @princeequalizer3715 4 роки тому +1

      Who hates on the guy? I didn't see any. Stop bullshitting

    • @noone6223
      @noone6223 4 роки тому +3

      @@princeequalizer3715 and everyone is shitting on him in the comments btw. You're blind buddy

    • @bitwawesome1
      @bitwawesome1 3 роки тому

      Romance girl

  • @musaadmohammed1169
    @musaadmohammed1169 5 років тому +15

    Why are People so angry about this man?

    • @KyleS.1987
      @KyleS.1987 5 років тому +13

      Because he made ze bad game

    • @IonMario94
      @IonMario94 5 років тому +16

      His games are not well written enough for him to give advice, and he has been calles out for mistreating employees

    • @Alastor343
      @Alastor343 5 років тому +16

      no one is angry about david cage. he's just a no talent creepy person who thinks he's the savior of video games. everyone pays attention to him because he's unintentionally hilarious

    • @Unknown-zn8cg
      @Unknown-zn8cg 5 років тому +1

      MarioThrasherTroops I think they are. Look at heavy rain,it’s an amazing story

    • @sonofwrex
      @sonofwrex 5 років тому +7

      iiGalaxyyy I would say Heavy Rain is amazing if you want to experience a badly written video game story, while still being entertained by its badness and to hopefully learn from it. To me, it’s The Room of video games.

  • @TastyGamingQc
    @TastyGamingQc 5 років тому +12

    I can't wait for their next game!
    "Hold on just a little while longer. Everything will be alright!"

  • @W_O_W2023
    @W_O_W2023 3 роки тому +6

    I love quantic dream's games ♥

  • @MegaNightmare4
    @MegaNightmare4 5 років тому +19

    Honestly this is pretty informative. Just do the literal opposite of everything he says and you're halfway to becoming a decent writer.

  • @DirtyDayMix
    @DirtyDayMix 3 роки тому +4

    This man is a legend 😮

  • @darkrequiem9133
    @darkrequiem9133 5 років тому +24

    *cough* Beyond: Two Souls *cough*

    • @ErgoDog
      @ErgoDog 5 років тому +3

      Looved that game. Booonkers from A to Z! XD

    • @admiralpepper6933
      @admiralpepper6933 5 років тому +20

      @@ErgoDog
      You mean Z to A, right? Such a janky mess of a story, uninteresting to the most mind-bogglingly mediocre characters, choices and failure states that don't matter til the penultimate chapter, with side arcs come and go with no satisfying conclusion. I loved it.

    • @proffesionalidiot5994
      @proffesionalidiot5994 5 років тому +1

      Admiral Pepper No. it was bonkers from F to L then it went back to z.

  • @luckymancilha03
    @luckymancilha03 3 роки тому +7

    Dude's a legend

  • @gnarleypunkroker5
    @gnarleypunkroker5 4 роки тому +25

    for me, innovation in story telling would be cage actually making a story that wasn't complete hog wash.

    • @jaxjams7921
      @jaxjams7921 4 роки тому +3

      Detroit’s really there only well written game

    • @poett8875
      @poett8875 3 роки тому +1

      @@jaxjams7921 Beyond two souls and Heavy rain were really well written as well.

    • @wildman7220
      @wildman7220 3 роки тому +2

      @@poett8875 not like Detroit

    • @bignasty389
      @bignasty389 2 роки тому +1

      @@poett8875 Heavy Rain was in no way well written. If it was well written, nothing is poorly written

    • @Contrajoe
      @Contrajoe Рік тому

      @@poett8875 No, Beyond: Two Souls (don't forget David's pretentious colon) is not well written. THe game wanders all over various points of the character's life with a jarring lack of continuity. What Aiden can and can't do (and when) has no logic about it. Finally, he ends the game with an "in memory of" sentiment toward a couple real people that he says are "watching me from the infraworld" - David Cage's own pretentious nonsense is apparently a real afterlife in his view.

  • @richcromwell686
    @richcromwell686 5 років тому +3

    Loved all his games

  • @bjoey96
    @bjoey96 5 років тому +8

    Why him? I'm not saying that I make bad games, but their games are like movies, which is almost the opposite of the interaction that videogames want to achieve. Asking him for advice is like asking a movie director for advice to do videogames.

    • @ErgoDog
      @ErgoDog 5 років тому +4

      Eeh. Sure?

    • @bjoey96
      @bjoey96 5 років тому

      @@ErgoDog a lot. He make interactive movies, not games. He isn't an expert in narrative gaming because he doesn't have strong GAMEplay mechanics.

    • @Tamacat388
      @Tamacat388 5 років тому

      @@ErgoDog In Indigo Prophecy the main menu literally says "New Movie" instead of "New Game" because that's the way he thinks about his games I guess.

  • @tricksterhuaun
    @tricksterhuaun 5 років тому +19

    DON'T do Beyond Two Souls.
    DO anything else.

    • @Unknown-zn8cg
      @Unknown-zn8cg 5 років тому

      tricksterhuaun what

    • @BADCHARACTER
      @BADCHARACTER 4 роки тому

      HAVE YOU PLAYED OMNIKRON?

    • @YellowSabre
      @YellowSabre 3 роки тому

      @@BADCHARACTER NOBODY CARES ABOUT OMNIKRON YOU BAD CHARACTER

  • @michaelmaguire4147
    @michaelmaguire4147 5 років тому +10

    Who let this man talk?

  • @JKBlackClover
    @JKBlackClover 5 років тому +11

    Games are nothing without non linearity. It’s what separates them from all other forms of entertainment.

    • @Contrajoe
      @Contrajoe Рік тому

      interactivity matters more. The HL games were quite linear but they earned their acclaim

  • @hitmanlowe3562
    @hitmanlowe3562 3 роки тому +5

    I’ve played all three of his games. The progress in his work is nice to see, looking forward to see what he comes with next.

    • @Filmgod94
      @Filmgod94 3 роки тому +4

      He made 5 games...

    • @petwisk2012
      @petwisk2012 2 роки тому +1

      You're missing Omnikron and Índigo prophecy

    • @bignasty389
      @bignasty389 2 роки тому +2

      I’m sorry for your loss.

  • @hossamdabies8839
    @hossamdabies8839 4 роки тому +4

    Did you guys forget how big heavy rain was !

  • @Merk_Fury14
    @Merk_Fury14 5 років тому +8

    Literally just finished Beyond: Two Souls😶

    • @maxlgl8721
      @maxlgl8721 5 років тому +6

      Oh love this game , love heavy rain and detroit too

    • @tricksterhuaun
      @tricksterhuaun 5 років тому +11

      I'm so sorry!

    • @Merk_Fury14
      @Merk_Fury14 5 років тому +2

      Maxence Langlois 👍 they’re all great! You played Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit?

    • @Xunkun
      @Xunkun 5 років тому +7

      How many hours of your life that were badly spent, and will never get back?

    • @Merk_Fury14
      @Merk_Fury14 5 років тому +1

      Xuncu it wasn’t my favourite Quantic Dream game but I still enjoyed it.

  • @josephc.3192
    @josephc.3192 4 роки тому +10

    There were so many cool moments in Detroit. If only he would hire real writers instead of trying to write his own stuff.

  • @paradoxacres1063
    @paradoxacres1063 5 років тому +10

    Please make a *Fantasy Game* , Mr Cage!
    .
    A "Choose Your Own Adventure game but with Magic" would be so cool

    • @thepickles8833
      @thepickles8833 4 роки тому +1

      This man is the last person to ask for anything “cool”

  • @ronanepic2457
    @ronanepic2457 5 років тому +11

    *Trying to justify removing player control as "innovation"*

  • @LincolnClay98
    @LincolnClay98 5 років тому +14

    I love David Cage, he tells amazing strories! I hope that he keeps making games until he's 100 years old.

    • @imamsetiadi9162
      @imamsetiadi9162 5 років тому +3

      When he 100 years old
      I doubt you still interested in gaming 😂

    • @estelasayeed5608
      @estelasayeed5608 5 років тому +3

      Imam Setiadi I know I would be..

  • @zafirmorsalin2682
    @zafirmorsalin2682 3 роки тому +1

    We also have to use the right stick for almost everything.

  • @OoXLR8oO
    @OoXLR8oO 5 років тому +8

    With how many haters try to turn his games into comedies, I’d love to see David actually make a comedic game and see what happens. He already gave us a taste with The Dark Sorcerer Tech Demo.

    • @elrowlight4639
      @elrowlight4639 5 років тому +11

      haters haters haters haters haters haters haters haters haters
      get a new line from the dictionary, no wonder you like David Cage games, you're about as dumb as a bag of bricks.

    • @1polyron1
      @1polyron1 5 років тому +2

      @@elrowlight4639 You are clearly a stable person.

    • @admiralpepper6933
      @admiralpepper6933 5 років тому

      @@1polyron1
      Better stability than whatever OP was talking about.

    • @1polyron1
      @1polyron1 5 років тому

      @@admiralpepper6933 So because YOU don't understand what he is talking about he is unstable. There are videos with millions of views where purposely fail or do comedic things within the game. The joke being that it's suppose to be a serious game. I take it you didn't know that.

    • @admiralpepper6933
      @admiralpepper6933 5 років тому

      @@1polyron1
      Oh, I'm very interested to see the inversion of it being more serious than the other "serious" games Cage did. But please don't get yer panties in a bunch, it's bad for ya health.

  • @nerto5425
    @nerto5425 4 роки тому +3

    Detroit become human just a great game
    I Need more games David Cage!

  • @1polyron1
    @1polyron1 5 років тому +6

    David Cage makes a game
    Some people buy the game then bash David Cage
    David Cage makes another game
    Same people buy game and bash David Cage
    Me:
    If you don't like the game why are you here!? Obviously you love David Cage.
    Me:
    If you don't like the game why are you here!? Obviously you love David Cage

    • @sonofwrex
      @sonofwrex 5 років тому +5

      Even though I don’t like his work, doesn’t mean I don’t want to hear what he has to say.

    • @1polyron1
      @1polyron1 5 років тому +1

      @@sonofwrex Fair enough.

    • @Officialchristophermorris
      @Officialchristophermorris 5 років тому

      @@1polyron1 and it's Fun to bash him and his games for some reason xD

  • @chrisbridston3438
    @chrisbridston3438 5 років тому +7

    Love Quantic Dream games ! Heavy handed stories to say the least.. but just loved Detroit .. would love to see a horror game .. Love the look and story of DETROIT though.. took me awhile to get the hang of a quick time story based game.. Until Dawn is the one that got me into them .. heavy rain was fun as hell.. and the BAD acting is what made that game so fun to me..

  • @crazimax
    @crazimax 5 років тому +6

    Stop giving this guy money and credit he doesn’t deserve. His writing is elementary. All his games are free. Don’t be fool next time this guy release a new game.

    • @callmegary2622
      @callmegary2622 4 роки тому +1

      why do u hate him so much? the 3 games I've played (Heavy rain, beyond two souls, DBH) were all amazing.

  • @MasterXploder88
    @MasterXploder88 5 років тому +24

    He makes ze bad game

  • @rashidori
    @rashidori 5 років тому +7

    Ahh,,,The Tommy Wuzou and Neil Breen of video games

  • @bogikorpai
    @bogikorpai 5 років тому +6

    Why don't David makes gameplay I-

    • @BADCHARACTER
      @BADCHARACTER 4 роки тому +2

      HAVE YOU PLAYED OMNIKRON? PLENTY OF G A M E P L A Y THERE

    • @YellowSabre
      @YellowSabre 3 роки тому

      @@BADCHARACTER NOBODY CARES ABOUT OMNIKRON YOU’RE SUCH A BAD CHARACTER

  • @thatsuperboy2299
    @thatsuperboy2299 4 роки тому

    Netflix:*seeing DBH*
    Netflix:Hmm interesting
    Netflix:*Making Original series*

  • @DJGamingSmash
    @DJGamingSmash 5 років тому +7

    Why do people hate Beyond: Two Souls? Is it just a lack of variety in choices? I enjoyed the story more than Detroit: Become Human.

    • @Unknown-zn8cg
      @Unknown-zn8cg 5 років тому +1

      DJGamingSmash me too

    • @DJGamingSmash
      @DJGamingSmash 5 років тому +1

      @Rio Ammon Made sense to me. I don't find non-linear narratives flawed by nature, but thanks for the feedback.

    • @Unknown-zn8cg
      @Unknown-zn8cg 5 років тому +1

      Rio Ammon there’s a chronological mode

  • @VladimirIsmaenkAnzorkovich
    @VladimirIsmaenkAnzorkovich 4 роки тому

    "...watch cutscenes..."
    Kojima wanna know your place David

  • @wolverineiscool7161
    @wolverineiscool7161 4 роки тому

    beyond two souls had a more gripping story than detroit but i did enjoy both

  • @wenweru1
    @wenweru1 5 років тому +3

    Why would I listen to *him* of all people about this?

  • @Mrs_starr
    @Mrs_starr 4 роки тому +1

    Can you make Detroit become human 2

    • @Goyarxrd
      @Goyarxrd 3 роки тому +1

      David’s not a big fan of sequels plus there is no reason for a sequel you either convince the government to give androids the same rights as humans peacefully or violently or you fail and androids remain the same this game leave no cliffhangers or anything that indicates a sequel

  • @hkhan9641
    @hkhan9641 3 роки тому +1

    If you never got that platinum trophy 🏆 in the original heavy rain, you aint ready for quantic dream's next one!

  • @Petite669
    @Petite669 2 роки тому +1

    His narratives are so bad it's funny lmao

  • @maxlgl8721
    @maxlgl8721 5 років тому +9

    Heavy rain , detroit and beyond two souls are masterpiece , so happy but I want more gaming in comic con ! ( even if we al Ready have e3 , gamescome , Paris games week , tokyo games show ... )

    • @thepickles8833
      @thepickles8833 4 роки тому

      I’m glad you like games with actual challenges

    • @doonilcoolata514
      @doonilcoolata514 4 роки тому

      finally a comment where no one is bashing! At least you appreciate his works :)

  • @razvanruse68
    @razvanruse68 4 роки тому

    Excuse me?
    I need a horror game from YOU

  • @hasifzakwanbinmohdhamidi6767
    @hasifzakwanbinmohdhamidi6767 4 роки тому +2

    Please sequel for detroit....."im bagging u im scared..i just wanted to be alive"

    • @YellowSabre
      @YellowSabre 3 роки тому +1

      How would they even make a sequel to a game with fifty thousand different endings ya know?

  • @HackersSun
    @HackersSun Рік тому

    See mass effect 3, this is how you make actual choices matter 🙃

  • @Contrajoe
    @Contrajoe Рік тому +1

    David cage is a failure of the game design

  • @bitwawesome1
    @bitwawesome1 3 роки тому

    Wow

  • @newt__noot
    @newt__noot 5 років тому +1

    oh no he made ze bad games

  • @turdnugget69ify
    @turdnugget69ify 5 років тому +1

    Cuz I want more games where I gotta mash the whole controller to pick up a plate

  • @Alastor343
    @Alastor343 5 років тому

    next ign interview: talking with john romero on how not to overhype something

  • @HibHab69
    @HibHab69 5 років тому +4

    YOUR GAMES ARE ENTIRELY CUTSCENES!

    • @Unknown-zn8cg
      @Unknown-zn8cg 5 років тому +6

      HibHab69 that’s why it’s called interactive drama you fool

    • @1polyron1
      @1polyron1 5 років тому +8

      His point was his games give the choices to the players. That's the gameplay. That along with qte's. How is that hard to understand!?

  • @bitwawesome1
    @bitwawesome1 3 роки тому

    Romance girl