Incredible! now I don't have to call this set-up just a mere "budget meal" supermoto setup. Thanks for this amazing video sir! I definitely learned a lot especially the tire options and what to get for my KLX BF.
Sportsman Works!! I was about ready to take a belt sander to those crap dual sport (Unstable at any lean) tires! These bikes are indestructible, the best to learn on (IF YOU PUT STREET TIRES ON THEM). There!
This video and your remark has given me the confidence and reassurance to put some street tires on my dual sport. I bought this dual sport thinking I would ride more off road, but I only do that occasionally and the stock tires really do not feel stable in turns at speeds. Instead of just selling my bike and getting a factory supermoto, I should try this setup with some Shinko e705 tires and see if that is better. Thanks!
Man this is my favorite video I have seen from you so far - really practical setup and explanation. Love your bike and watching your guys ride, the Philippines has such a great bike culture it seems. If I ever get to Cebu, I'm coming to your shop!
Lifan KPX250, Did the 21/18" tire swap! Stock tires are Unstable at any lean. I could NOT drive it on the street.. was wrecking my skills! Dropped it several times in the Parking lot doing figure 8's. Those DS tires are GARBAGE on the road. Unstable, constant correction.. bad news. WOW.. I can closed loop control my lean w/o short cutting the turn. Might get a front wheel 18' front wheel, but the 21/18 setup is probably 85% there. Went with Shinko.. 712/777 which looked to have the LEAST Knobby tread. Smoothness at speed.. Stability.. Cornering. The KPX is darned good for chinese.. giving the KLX300 a run at less than half the price.
Great video bro! Supermoto is definitely subjective.. but a dirt bike with street tires is the basic concept.. I've also been eyeing those Michelin Siracs for my Honda Beat.. and the Shinko E705-II's are awesome on my CRF150L..
@@thebeachoflife Awesome bro! He's a good dude and knows what he's doing. He built me my first set of supermoto wheels within three days and shipped them from Cebu to Dumaguete on a Ceres Bus.. absolutely awesome..
Nice video but still. How worse are them vs 17 inch. I would love to see compere in turns. Can you knee down on that set. Is it possible to make a lot of lean ?
The difference between the 18/21 & 17/17 wheels are night and day. You can still drop and knee with the stock wheel setup but the 17s are just better overall
This is the content I’ve been looking for! Thank you for the great information! I noticed that the Shinko 705 90/90 - 18 F is tubeless, but I use tubed spoke rims. Is it okay to put a tube in this tire?
Now LQQK at you on that dinosaur cafe style bike....lmao, I'd ride her w/ PRIDE... but I couldn't resist poking you a little. Of course I'd thought about doing these things but I didn't know it was a "Thang"? With like it's own classification in the cycling world? Ain't that cool, kool, and even kewler yet. I do like your older bike, Royal Enfield has several bikes that remind me of 70's / 80's stuff. I like vehicles that look like they might not make it around the block but then surprise everyone who sees it..... I like that a lot!! Thanks for teaching us, inquiring minds want to know. be safe
Yeah, I think nowadays you can source replacement suspension parts for older bikes but that are made w/ newer technologies = looks the same but are new replacement parts. The suspension/brakes are arguably the 2 most important factors in riding an older bike or the "Cafe" style of bike. And Manoy66 has great taste in this process. peace
@@diggy-d8w I agree with you completely. I'm in the USA and really like how these Filipino bike guys do things. Cool people, great bike culture. Peace.
Yep, this channel has some interesting spins on bikes & a lot of it is done w/ spare bikes/parts. Where they don't have the money they'll use another bike. One example is the Honda 150L which is now in the US market but this bike is the cheapest offering from Honda. That's why I may buy one but I digress. This channel said that you can swap the front end suspension w/ the 150F, I do believe? But you get the idea. So, on the bikes in the US that're soft, if ya look you might find another moto-cross that can swap out for a soft suspension. IDKnow much more but it does open up possibilities & do you know other good channels like this? peace
@@diggy-d8w Yea, I actually bought one of those Honda XR150L after watching a LOT of vids from the Philippines and other places. It was a great bike. I listed it for sale on Fb marketplace not thinking it would sell fast because I wasn't sure I wanted to let go of it, but someone replied right away and gave full price so I did let it go. But I REGRETTED selling it immediately. It's an old school, basic bike and slow but it's fun, simple, easy to ride, and does the job. The problem with bikes is no matter what we have, we are always looking at others. Human nature I guess. The Filipino's really know how to get the most out of every bike. I learn a lot from watching.
Good question. I have been eyeing that bike ever since it came out and i'm on the lookout for a cheap used unit. As far as i know its a Chinese copy of Honda's CB400SS which is powered by the same engine found in the best dirtbike ever, the XR400.
I'm planning on doing this on a china bike with 19 Front /16 rear wheels using Shinko 777's. Any thoughts or opinions on that tire for this type of set up? Also do I retain the bead lock, or is that not necessary with street tires? Thanks for any insight you could help with!
Shinko SR 568 120/80/16 rear - Shinko 712 100/90/19 man this thing is amazing to ride around town now lol!! I raised the forks 18mm to bring the nose down a bit with this much tall front tire. If anyone has a Chinese 150cc bike this is such a fun and very inexpensive experience!
Incredible! now I don't have to call this set-up just a mere "budget meal" supermoto setup. Thanks for this amazing video sir! I definitely learned a lot especially the tire options and what to get for my KLX BF.
Doc Manoy, we'll visit your clinic soon for a Rally checkup, when time will allow.
Sportsman Works!! I was about ready to take a belt sander to those crap dual sport (Unstable at any lean) tires! These bikes are indestructible, the best to learn on (IF YOU PUT STREET TIRES ON THEM). There!
This video and your remark has given me the confidence and reassurance to put some street tires on my dual sport. I bought this dual sport thinking I would ride more off road, but I only do that occasionally and the stock tires really do not feel stable in turns at speeds. Instead of just selling my bike and getting a factory supermoto, I should try this setup with some Shinko e705 tires and see if that is better. Thanks!
That '83 model is unheard of. Cause I wasn't born when that model came out. Nice info on the topic. Thanks.
never know until i found the video lamats sa info mao ni plano pero new rims og tires and rear sprocket pang plug in play
thanks for sharing your knowledge on modifying/personalizing these motorbikes.. love the wheelies,, but may you always stay upright brother..
Man this is my favorite video I have seen from you so far - really practical setup and explanation. Love your bike and watching your guys ride, the Philippines has such a great bike culture it seems. If I ever get to Cebu, I'm coming to your shop!
Lifan KPX250, Did the 21/18" tire swap! Stock tires are Unstable at any lean. I could NOT drive it on the street.. was wrecking my skills! Dropped it several times in the Parking lot doing figure 8's. Those DS tires are GARBAGE on the road. Unstable, constant correction.. bad news. WOW.. I can closed loop control my lean w/o short cutting the turn.
Might get a front wheel 18' front wheel, but the 21/18 setup is probably 85% there. Went with Shinko.. 712/777 which looked to have the LEAST Knobby tread. Smoothness at speed.. Stability.. Cornering. The KPX is darned good for chinese.. giving the KLX300 a run at less than half the price.
Great video bro! Supermoto is definitely subjective.. but a dirt bike with street tires is the basic concept.. I've also been eyeing those Michelin Siracs for my Honda Beat.. and the Shinko E705-II's are awesome on my CRF150L..
Hey buddy! m going with 150L with supermoto 😄
@@thebeachoflife Nice man! Good choice! Do I know you from Sunshine Shoulders channel???
Be sure to get the right wheels/tires and gearing.. it's an awesome bike.. @Manoy 66 can hook you up for sure..
@@SurRonAlot yeah thats me. UA-cam is a small world haha. i will be visiting Manoy's shop in Cebu when im ready.
@@thebeachoflife Awesome bro! He's a good dude and knows what he's doing. He built me my first set of supermoto wheels within three days and shipped them from Cebu to Dumaguete on a Ceres Bus.. absolutely awesome..
Learned something that sportsman is different from supermoto… is it ok to use 14inc wheel front and rear for a Pitbike supermoto rather than 17/14?
Oh yeah definitely! Should be a fun wheel setup to rip around a gokart track. 💪
Nice video but still. How worse are them vs 17 inch. I would love to see compere in turns. Can you knee down on that set.
Is it possible to make a lot of lean ?
The difference between the 18/21 & 17/17 wheels are night and day. You can still drop and knee with the stock wheel setup but the 17s are just better overall
@@TheManoy66 that's what I need to hear
This is the content I’ve been looking for! Thank you for the great information! I noticed that the Shinko 705 90/90 - 18 F is tubeless, but I use tubed spoke rims. Is it okay to put a tube in this tire?
Yes you can use tubes in a tubeless tire.
Now LQQK at you on that dinosaur cafe style bike....lmao, I'd ride her w/ PRIDE... but I couldn't resist poking you a little. Of course
I'd thought about doing these things but I didn't know it was a "Thang"? With like it's own classification in the cycling world? Ain't
that cool, kool, and even kewler yet. I do like your older bike, Royal Enfield has several bikes that remind me of 70's / 80's stuff.
I like vehicles that look like they might not make it around the block but then surprise everyone who sees it..... I like that a lot!!
Thanks for teaching us, inquiring minds want to know. be safe
That old school bike set up he has is awesome!
Yeah, I think nowadays you can source replacement suspension parts for older bikes but that are made w/ newer
technologies = looks the same but are new replacement parts. The suspension/brakes are arguably the 2 most
important factors in riding an older bike or the "Cafe" style of bike. And Manoy66 has great taste in this process.
peace
@@diggy-d8w I agree with you completely. I'm in the USA and really like how these Filipino bike guys do things. Cool people, great bike culture. Peace.
Yep, this channel has some interesting spins on bikes & a lot of it is done w/ spare bikes/parts. Where they don't
have the money they'll use another bike. One example is the Honda 150L which is now in the US market but this
bike is the cheapest offering from Honda. That's why I may buy one but I digress. This channel said that you can
swap the front end suspension w/ the 150F, I do believe? But you get the idea. So, on the bikes in the US that're
soft, if ya look you might find another moto-cross that can swap out for a soft suspension. IDKnow much more
but it does open up possibilities & do you know other good channels like this? peace
@@diggy-d8w Yea, I actually bought one of those Honda XR150L after watching a LOT of vids from the Philippines and other places. It was a great bike. I listed it for sale on Fb marketplace not thinking it would sell fast because I wasn't sure I wanted to let go of it, but someone replied right away and gave full price so I did let it go. But I REGRETTED selling it immediately. It's an old school, basic bike and slow but it's fun, simple, easy to ride, and does the job. The problem with bikes is no matter what we have, we are always looking at others. Human nature I guess. The Filipino's really know how to get the most out of every bike. I learn a lot from watching.
Nice vid‼️ Just wondering, what are ur opinions about the motorstar cafe 400?
Good question. I have been eyeing that bike ever since it came out and i'm on the lookout for a cheap used unit. As far as i know its a Chinese copy of Honda's CB400SS which is powered by the same engine found in the best dirtbike ever, the XR400.
I'm planning on doing this on a china bike with 19 Front /16 rear wheels using Shinko 777's. Any thoughts or opinions on that tire for this type of set up? Also do I retain the bead lock, or is that not necessary with street tires? Thanks for any insight you could help with!
I use that tire on my VTX1800. Awesome grip and lasts pretty long.
Edit reply: i thought shinko e705 lol
@@TheManoy66Great to hear! Thanks for a very quick reply 👍👍
Shinko SR 568 120/80/16 rear - Shinko 712 100/90/19 man this thing is amazing to ride around town now lol!! I raised the forks 18mm to bring the nose down a bit with this much tall front tire. If anyone has a Chinese 150cc bike this is such a fun and very inexpensive experience!
Magkanu set ng 17s for CRF 150L?
Send me a message in FB or IG and i'll give you a quote. 😉