What if Luke Turned Darth Vader Back To The Light? (In The Empire Strikes Back)

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  • Hey guys, welcome back to the channel. In todays video we discuss What if Luke Turned Darth Vader To The Light In The Empire Strikes Back? I hope you all enjoy and may the force be with you!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 130

  • @ebdullah3545
    @ebdullah3545 2 роки тому +90

    Good video, allthough I feel like Sidious would have felt that Vader had turned against him considering how insanely powerful he was with the dark side and the force in general.

    • @AndrewAce.
      @AndrewAce. 2 роки тому +6

      Yes, there's simply no way Vader would sneak off, and train with the light side for a full year without ever alerting Sidious...

    • @masterchiefyoumind
      @masterchiefyoumind 2 роки тому +4

      @@AndrewAce. it's fan fiction so

    • @kaijoy4940
      @kaijoy4940 Рік тому +1

      The thing is sidious knows eventually vader would betray him as the way of the sith but he thought he had turned anakin to the dark forever So he can't sense it same as the jedi couldn't feel the lord of the sith right in front of them

    • @Screap27
      @Screap27 Рік тому

      Definitely agreed and also the fact that he was "commanding the deaths of millions" would not put him in Yoda and Obi-Wan's good graces
      Other wise great video!

    • @omarbravo8758
      @omarbravo8758 Рік тому +1

      @@Screap27 i mean he was forgiven in Canon

  • @sirpaulen6575
    @sirpaulen6575 Рік тому +19

    Vader's armor was intentionally vulnerable to force lightning and Palps never used it here. I think he would've 100% just zapped Vader out of the fight immediately. He actually hated using lightsabers and only used them when toying with his opponents and mastered all 7 forms just to mock the jedi. He's not going down that easily.

    • @99thJediWarrior
      @99thJediWarrior 6 місяців тому +1

      Vader was still the Chosen One. In many cases, Palpatine believed Vader's major damage was in his mind, not so much in his body. He surmised that if Vader was able to confront his conflicted feelings, the power of the Chosen One would reawaken in him.

  • @scottaznavourian3720
    @scottaznavourian3720 2 роки тому +11

    The first time in the OT it's obviously anakin talking is the hologram in ESB. He fears Palpatine will kill his son so he tries to make luke seem likes he's not a threat. When that fails he resorts to 'I can turn him'

  • @crispybakon5402
    @crispybakon5402 2 роки тому +33

    This is the perfect what if for star wars this guy need to be hired by lucas film now

  • @chrisbradley20
    @chrisbradley20 2 роки тому +42

    What if Anakin and Obi-Wan joined Ahsoka during the Siege of Mandalore?
    What if Anakin returned to the light in A New Hope?
    What if Ahsoka and Anakin had children?
    What if Anakin fell in love with Obi-Wan?
    What if Anakin went away with Padme, and left everything else behind in Revenge of the Sith?

    • @crispybakon5402
      @crispybakon5402 2 роки тому +16

      Second to last is a little cursed ngl

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  2 роки тому +10

      Thanks for the ideas I will definitely cover some!

    • @darth_vedant669
      @darth_vedant669 2 роки тому +4

      The Anakin and ahsoka was kinda got me

    • @EvilXero359
      @EvilXero359 2 роки тому +3

      Or Anakin becomes like John Wick
      Anakin: Just a gizka? That was a gift from my dying wife. An opportunity to grieve unalone. And your son......took that from me.
      Stole that from me!
      KILLED THAT FROM ME!!!
      The galaxy keeps asking me if I'm back, and I don't have an answer to that.
      But yeah! I'M THINKIN IM BACK

    • @ausersshplays7301
      @ausersshplays7301 2 роки тому +1

      Cmon don't be gay anakin

  • @falconwind00
    @falconwind00 7 місяців тому +1

    I like how Vader still has the suit and injuries. So many Vader redemption fics have him discard it and back to old Anakin.
    But I think for Vader not to be imprisoned, he’d have to either make a deal with the Alliance in exchange for his help, or he’d be placed into the custody of the New Jedi Order.

  • @drishalballaney6590
    @drishalballaney6590 2 роки тому +14

    one critical point: either Obi wan or Yoda should have told Luke/Vader that Leia is his sister

    • @edgaracajabon9522
      @edgaracajabon9522 Рік тому +3

      Lucas hadn't decided to make them brother and sister until the last minute

    • @pd28cat
      @pd28cat Рік тому +2

      @@edgaracajabon9522 SWEET HOME ALABAMA

  • @ldungey6972
    @ldungey6972 2 роки тому +6

    And then Grand Admiral Thrawn arose from the ashes.... With Mara Jade by his side.....😱

  • @SenseiWu..
    @SenseiWu.. 2 роки тому +13

    vader would get a new suit bcs the old one caused him pain to remind him of his loss on mustafar what would keep him to the dark side also the suit was old and clunky also to fuel his rage so yeah he woul get a new wayy better suit

    • @kharilane1340
      @kharilane1340 Рік тому +2

      Everyone forgets that it wasn't just Vader's suit that was keeping him alive. Vader was using the power of The Dark side to sustain his life force because the suit couldn't do it on its own. Even if Sidious had not short-circuited Vader's suit. Anakin wouldn't have survived long without the Dark side to sustain him. That's the main reason Anakin dies in ROTJ. Luke could have easily gotten Anakin to an Alliance Med Ship and gotten him on life support while a newer, better suit was made and Anakin knew this, yet he still tells Luke that nothing would stop that from happening now. In fact, it was the Dark side that made Vader able to survive long enough for Sidious to find him and get him to medical assistance. Without the Dark-side, Vader dies on the shore of that lave lake on Mustafar, just as Anakin died on the Death Star 2.0.

  • @heywoodfloyd9
    @heywoodfloyd9 6 місяців тому

    What I admire the most about your videos is that youre calm, literate and eloquent. Mosy of the people that makes these types of videos sound like they've main lined ritalin with a mouth full of peanut butter and are barely literate in the bargain.

  • @krismikewill
    @krismikewill Рік тому +1

    This is a joy to watch. Thanks for sharing.

  • @darthnihilus1310
    @darthnihilus1310 2 роки тому +8

    Vader was actually a better lightsaber duelist than Palpatine

    • @hunterskidmore1672
      @hunterskidmore1672 Рік тому +2

      Skill wise definitely
      Palpatine sadly is just so much faster then what vader can keep up with.

  • @johntharp6822
    @johntharp6822 2 роки тому +3

    Great story and I know you don't know me but it's my birthday and I can't think of a better way of spending it by watching this what if

  • @Screap27
    @Screap27 Рік тому +2

    I think you should include in a future video some of the jedi that survived order 66 like Quinlan Vos

  • @blazethebluefire6352
    @blazethebluefire6352 2 роки тому +12

    I think palpatine would be weaker in part 6 than he was in part 3

    • @jackmeds12
      @jackmeds12 2 роки тому +5

      palpatine was at his strongest in episode 6

  • @nandiplays3875
    @nandiplays3875 2 роки тому +3

    This is going to be EPIC 🙂!

  • @colethelin9203
    @colethelin9203 Рік тому

    What a great Video Fantasy Folklre.

  • @Onio_362
    @Onio_362 Рік тому +3

    What if luke put on the Darth Vader mask and said that he was Darth Vader?

  • @fightthegoodfightoffaithmi8676

    Excellent video friend loved it very much.

  • @olorin2514
    @olorin2514 Рік тому +6

    Palpatine was a genius. There's no way he would have been fooled like he was in this scenario. Also the rebels wouldn't have had nearly enough manpower to mount an attack on Coruscant at that stage, and it wouldn't make sense that they'd be willing to give it a shot either, because the plan would hinge on trusting that Vader was a good guy now. Granted, the Imperial fleet would still be spread across the galaxy in a vain effort to engage them, but they had both a hefty fleet, and the orbit defense system always protecting their capital. If a covert rebel attack force managed to sneak in, and Vader could probably help with the codes needed, they'd still be outnumbered 100 to 1 with easily accessible reinforcements all around. If Vader and Luke were quick enough in their assassination, they might have had a shot, but again, Palpatine was a tactical genius, with back up plans upon back up plans always ready to go. He was also always aware the his apprentice hated him, and as always with the rule of 2, would eventually try to overthrow him. If Vader turned to the light at around the same time in this scenario, I could see him maybe faking his death, hiding somewhere off grid temporarily, somewhere like Yoda did, another force nexus of light or dark, and giving information to Luke to pass onto the Rebels about what he knows of Imperial bases, and Palpatine's secret strongholds, to help drive the empire back, until, Palpatine is either somewhere more accessible, or the Alliance has an actual shot at an incursion on the capital, and Luke, Vader, and probably Leia too, can take a shot at the Emperor. I did very much like this video. Anything that gets the mind going on "what if" scenarios in the Star Wars universe is ok in my book, and this is just my thoughts on this idea

  • @darth_vedant669
    @darth_vedant669 2 роки тому

    Your content is really good, I feel like it's been one day since you had 1K

  • @dianesinger9729
    @dianesinger9729 2 роки тому

    Enjoyedit very much especially Luke turning Anakin back

  • @RiotRioter
    @RiotRioter 2 роки тому +1

    I love those Fan fiction, and can you do a what if Maul trained Anakin? It is like a continuation of Star Wars theory because he never did it again, and I would love to know what happened. And Vader is 20% weaker than Palpatine because Vader has 80% of the emperor's full potential.

  • @fanart2482
    @fanart2482 Рік тому

    0:20 luke: father why did you left for milk?

  • @johnhorton4436
    @johnhorton4436 7 місяців тому +1

    Leia Still Wouldn't Trust Vader Regardless Especially when He Just Stood By and Left Alderaan Be Blown out Of Existence

  • @GarryGamer16offical
    @GarryGamer16offical 2 роки тому +1

    Can't wait let's goooo

  • @karlmiller7188
    @karlmiller7188 2 роки тому

    Very, very nice job!

  • @RexOlafusVidulusMagnus
    @RexOlafusVidulusMagnus 2 роки тому +10

    "Vader looked for any way to get involved" dude, he's faster than Sidious. Read Lords of the Sith for example.
    "Vader was not as strong as Palpatine. Not even close". You'd be right in Legends, canonically this is utter bollocks. Vader has feats and statements both, to back up that he's at least a match for Sidious. As a duelist he's even superior to Sidious on a technical level.

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  2 роки тому +3

      Palpatine was more powerful, master of 7 forms of dueling and even bested Yoda. Yes Vader is a powerful duellist and far superior to what Anakin ever was but there’s a reason that Vader never overthrew Palpatine. Because he couldn’t. And he tried on multiple occasions and lost. Even in the comics we have seen them duel with lightsabers and Vader has lost. It is also stated in the Revenge of the Sith novel that Palpatine was one of the quickest duellists in the galaxy and his moves looked like a blur.

    • @RexOlafusVidulusMagnus
      @RexOlafusVidulusMagnus 2 роки тому +1

      @@FantasyFolklore
      1. They dueled when Vader was weak. New to his suit.
      2. Vader knew all 7 forms of lightsaber combat as well (in Legends certainly) and had them hybridised beyond recognition in his suit.
      3. In RotS Nick Gillard estimates both Anakin and Sidious are tier 9 duelists, and Vader only got better after getting into the suit in both continuities.
      Edit. I already told you, Vader was shown canonically to be faster than Sidious. ^^^ Lords of the Sith is a really good read bro, recommend it

    • @Vuk3
      @Vuk3 2 роки тому +2

      @@FantasyFolklore just because someone mastered all 7 forms does not mean he is invinsible lol
      Every form has pros and cons, best form was probably form 6 ( mix of 5 previous forms ) but since it did not hold any disadvantage against any other lightsaber form, it also did not hold any advantage making it like a balanced form
      Vader later developed his own form which was mix of form 1,2,3,5 and 7 which was probably deadliest form ever possibly, and yes he was also master of all 7 forms
      Difference between vader and sidious is that vader was far more skilled and expirienced than sidious and both of them were equal in speed
      Sidious said that vader's power was unparallel, vader was only one that could overthrow him that is why sidious made his suit to have some drawbacks like on/off switch button that sidious could click whith use of a force but vader was powerful enough that he could just switch it back on, that is why suit was weak against electricity so sidious could just fry vader like a chicken if he needs to
      If vader was weaker than sidious then he would not have to worry about vader overthrowing him, but he certainly did
      George lucas stated that vader was 80% of sidious after mustafar but you know that OT happened 2 decades after mustafar? In those 2 decades he became far more powerful than sidious could ever imagine
      At the end it came down to manipulation, you see vader was not stronger than sidious simply because he could force push someone furthure back or destroy sidious in lightsaber duel, he was weaker than sidious because he could not fight him back, to be exact he did not want to fight him back, and that is because sidious manipulated vader
      Even if vader killed sidious he had nothing to live for after that because sidious was everything he had left until luke showed up, it is likely that vader would give up on his life because he would lose meaning to live
      Vader was maybe stronger physically but mentally...he was bottom of the bottom

    • @RexOlafusVidulusMagnus
      @RexOlafusVidulusMagnus 2 роки тому +1

      @@Vuk3 wow, another logic-favouring man, and a Serb (I think? 😅) 🇵🇱🇷🇸

    • @Vuk3
      @Vuk3 2 роки тому +1

      @@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus serb but I live in croatia 😀 🇷🇸🇭🇷🇵🇱

  • @itzinferno1387
    @itzinferno1387 2 роки тому +2

    What if Ben Solo never turned to the darkside

  • @edwinrivera2887
    @edwinrivera2887 Рік тому

    What if Padme and Ahsoka fell in love?
    What if Anakin went to Utapau to destroy General Grievous instead of Obi Wan?
    What if Ashoka was never on trail?
    What if Yoda trained Ashoka?
    What if Yaddle survived her battle with Count Dooku?
    What if Mace Windu trained Ashoka?

    • @TheNamesSpencer
      @TheNamesSpencer 11 місяців тому

      If padme fell in love with ahsoka padme would be a pedophile. There's your answer.

  • @normanbonds9495
    @normanbonds9495 2 роки тому

    This is very interesting,I like it

  • @chrisrenshaw6291
    @chrisrenshaw6291 2 роки тому

    This would have been a cool to see

  • @seanmalloy0528
    @seanmalloy0528 Рік тому +1

    What if Ahsoka was in the OT?

  • @salemshogairi120
    @salemshogairi120 2 роки тому

    This was so good

  • @mayaharrison3138
    @mayaharrison3138 9 місяців тому

    cooooool

  • @collectorsarcade8156
    @collectorsarcade8156 2 роки тому

    I propose an idea what if Anakin was born during the time of the Old Republic let's say around the time Revan was turned to the dark side

    • @Spyro757
      @Spyro757 Рік тому

      Lol now I just need to see the video

  • @dannyisbroken9953
    @dannyisbroken9953 2 роки тому

    I just imagine like having anakins form 5 which mixes 5 and 4

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому

    Nice "What if" video

  • @randomdumbstuff305
    @randomdumbstuff305 2 роки тому

    Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @brother-sergeantvictorious77

    One thing no one ever covers in these what ifs - If Vader turns to the lightside and goes with Luk ANYWHERE... How tf does he eat? How does he use the bathroom? He needs to soak in the bacta tanks too. As funny as it is, Vader does require literal special needs - his suit doesn't have infinite food source or energy and even using the catheter and poop pouches means eventually he needs to replace them! So...if Vader was out with Luke on Dagobah - how tf did he survive through day to day needs?

  • @crispybakon5402
    @crispybakon5402 2 роки тому +2

    What if yoda trained anakin?

  • @AverageAussie_Avgeek
    @AverageAussie_Avgeek 4 місяці тому

    did vadar get a suit upgrade in this story?

  • @sunflow57
    @sunflow57 2 роки тому

    I love this 😍

  • @IVader
    @IVader 2 роки тому

    Oooh Impressive, most Impressive.

  • @ch62013
    @ch62013 2 роки тому +5

    What if Luke asks Vader about his mother in Return of Jedi?

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  2 роки тому +1

      Good one, I wonder what would happen

    • @James-Nobles
      @James-Nobles Рік тому

      @@FantasyFolklore you would know, you make the scripts for the what ifs

  • @crispybakon5402
    @crispybakon5402 2 роки тому

    Live chat in comments!

  • @josiahpurtee1156
    @josiahpurtee1156 2 роки тому

    What if Bo-Katan Kryze was a stronger and better fighter than Maul and Pre Visla combined, thus defeating Maul and/or Sabine Wren in combat for leadership of Mandalore and/or the Darksaber?

  • @Darthzilla99
    @Darthzilla99 Рік тому

    What if Ashoka trained Luke in between ANH and ESB?

  • @Site_Director_Dr_Bright
    @Site_Director_Dr_Bright 2 роки тому

    So good

  • @erichcarpenter7106
    @erichcarpenter7106 2 роки тому

    Love it.

  • @AntiSerpent
    @AntiSerpent Рік тому

    😊❤

  • @icyisles6075
    @icyisles6075 2 роки тому

    If that was the case there would be no sequels yay

  • @user-bo3dz7ji7y
    @user-bo3dz7ji7y 9 місяців тому

    He did

  • @benseawel6900
    @benseawel6900 2 роки тому

    What if Kylo Ren never turned back to the light side in the rise of skywalker?
    What if Luke Skywalker never became a Jedi and Leia did instead?
    What if there was no Jedi code?
    What if Anakin's mom was also free from slavery in the phantom menace?
    What if Finn became a Jedi?
    What if the Jedi Council was informed that Palpatine was a sith lord in attack of the clones?
    What if Anakin and Padme never had babies?

  • @thedoctor7241
    @thedoctor7241 Рік тому

    Why did you continue to mention anakin as vader. It kinda confused me

  • @wolfpanix7222
    @wolfpanix7222 Рік тому

    I dont think the difference between vader and sideous is that big its stated that vader came out to be about 80% as powerful as sideous and IMO is above sideous in terms of dueling

  • @Rad5973
    @Rad5973 2 роки тому

    Tbh I like this

  • @vaderkeytheory5992
    @vaderkeytheory5992 2 роки тому

    If this happened your telling me Vader would essentially become a snape?

  • @nachonaitor5535
    @nachonaitor5535 Рік тому

    What if griveous survived and turned good?

  • @williamnewton93
    @williamnewton93 Рік тому

    He did turn Vader back to light side

  • @elsaakerlund469
    @elsaakerlund469 2 роки тому

    this is not a really important question but why does anakin still have a red lightsaber i would have liked more if he had a blue

  • @Britishboy42
    @Britishboy42 2 роки тому +1

    Sadness 7 hours?

  • @CosmicDominator
    @CosmicDominator 2 роки тому

    What if thrawn joined the rebellion

  • @mrwarrior2163
    @mrwarrior2163 Рік тому

    I still dont understand how on earth Luke defeated Vader in episode 5, like sure Luke was powerful, but so was Vader, and Luke only had like a couple years of training

  • @rjpx947
    @rjpx947 Рік тому

    If only...

  • @williamnewton93
    @williamnewton93 Рік тому

    Sorry I missed the title

  • @robertocaetano4945
    @robertocaetano4945 Рік тому

    And Han Solo who is taked by Bobba Fett?
    Luke would never leave him.

  • @DrJoker-mj2vk
    @DrJoker-mj2vk 2 роки тому

    I made one just like this and wanted to happen

  • @kennethcampbell7263
    @kennethcampbell7263 Рік тому

    There is a point of failure in this theory less than a minute. Two adults, one with four cybernetic limbs will not fit in a one person fighter aircraft, whether that aircraft can jump and use hyperspace corridors the Xwing are a single pilot fighter

  • @levimulder2334
    @levimulder2334 2 роки тому

    But didnt luke do this just a movie later...

  • @adamhouse6205
    @adamhouse6205 2 роки тому

    What if padme didn't die in revenge of the sith

  • @patrickradcliffe3837
    @patrickradcliffe3837 Рік тому

    How was Han rescued, since Luke was busy training.

  • @jewellgiles9166
    @jewellgiles9166 10 місяців тому

    Luke and vader

  • @Xvfu81rizzler
    @Xvfu81rizzler 2 роки тому

    Palatine would be slow because he is old

  • @harmannbhasin9170
    @harmannbhasin9170 Рік тому

    No healing for vader here?

  • @tombraendle7156
    @tombraendle7156 Рік тому

    i dont thik sidious would be able to beat vader

  • @iainballas
    @iainballas Рік тому

    Not as huge of a fan of this one. Still good work, but... a few holes in it, I think?
    1) How do the rebels get a large enough force on Coruscant to attack the imperial palace? Even sneaking in over a year, they WOULD have been caught by inquisitors or ISB.
    2) Vader killing Palpating replaces once tyrant with another, at best, and a vaccum of power at worst. I think Luke would have wanted him captured. Even if execution is the smart move.
    3) No way Palpatine wouldn't have sensed the betrayal way sooner, or that some of the bounty hunters might not have tracked vader back to Dagobah.

  • @Certifiedbeginner
    @Certifiedbeginner 2 роки тому

    Hi

  • @crynosinso8324
    @crynosinso8324 2 роки тому

    At my time of commenting, there was 69 comments. Now I ruined it. Have fun!

  • @r.m.s5917
    @r.m.s5917 Рік тому

    "What if luke turned darth vader back to the lightside" excuse me but isnt that canon to episode 6? 💀

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  Рік тому

      Do you not see the brackets?

    • @r.m.s5917
      @r.m.s5917 Рік тому

      @@FantasyFolklore lol no I was just messing with you man. But hey, I love you fabrications. They're really entertaining

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  Рік тому

      @@r.m.s5917 hahahah cool cool thanks

  • @ldungey6972
    @ldungey6972 2 роки тому

    Ummm, when this theory starts, Han Solo is is in Carbonite, so at one point was Han saved....? Luke and Lando were essential in getting him back from Jaba. Guess it doesn't really matter i suppose

  • @Mamma1999
    @Mamma1999 2 роки тому

    what do you mean. Darth vader is already whiter than the former slave owners

  • @Yaco_the_Warrior
    @Yaco_the_Warrior Рік тому

    nice fan fic but far too many plot holes.

  • @edgaracajabon9522
    @edgaracajabon9522 Рік тому

    How could Luke have turned Vader to this light if he didn't even know who Vader truly was yet. He didn't know that Vader and and Anakin were the same person.

    • @Unknown457jk
      @Unknown457jk Рік тому

      Search his feelings he knew it to be true