He said the cops can’t move on that because it has no evidence. There’s two different topics being discussed. Why the law isn’t moving on Puff and people picking and choosing what you believe. He’s said in other interviews parts he doesn’t necessarily understand but he always says that’s Keefe’s story and he can’t discredit. And he’s right the only people that can discredit what Keefe is saying are all dead.
@@timmy841212 yea, that's understandable but if you stand for truth how can anyone trust u. Eiht know the truth but then why come in for an interview about 2pac
@@Silkysmooth-qk5ncEiht is correct, you have to separate the wheat from the chaff and only Keithy D is saying this and because people who are Pac fans love Pac so much, they let what Keithy say cloud their vision.
But the part about Orlando is true tho? How u gon prove that? Just cuz kefee said it? But kefee also said puffy was involved so why that part is unbelievable?
Keefe D could be dragging Puffy name into this to sell Books. "He Say She Say" means Nothing in Court. You Need a Concrete Proof in Court. Take Dat Take Dat Bad Boy
No. I think any reasonable, logical person wouldn't entertain the BS. And definitely not anyone who has ever lived/survived the element. It would be more logical for Sean to have paid for a hit, not a chain. Even though that is farfetched.
What would be the evidence, Keefe D's testimony? Talking in a UA-cam video is one thing but testiying on the withness stand is another thing. If Keefe D testified to that under oath he would be hemming himself up, saying that he accepted a million dollar contract for a hit and carried it out. If he's not in trouble alread then he surely would be then. And even if he did that where would he have evidence that Puff paid him a million dollars for it.
None of this happens without Puffy, ain’t Pac damn near get killed in New York??? I think I think Pac volatility was gonna have his life at risk 24/7, just how he lived
@@rovingwarrior3710everything you saying is somewhat true but from Keefe's last art interview it's pretty safe to say if he does get arrested for the 2pac situation he's definitely going to implicate puffy. He's giving off a vibe of "if I go down I'm not going down by myself".
TRUE THAT! THE GANGS WERE ALREADY KILLING EACH OTHER, BUT PUFFY INFLUENCE WITH THE BOUNTY ON THAT CHAIN TOOK THAT SHIT TO A WHOLE ANOTHER LEVEL. YES, PUFFY HEAVILY INFLUENCED THAT INCEDENT!!
This is what we’ve heard (about Puffy having placed a bounty on Death Row chain), but has it ever been proven? A lot of these stories have come from Keefe D, but as Art says, everyone seems to pick and choose which aspects’s of Keefe’s stories to believe. But many of Keefe’s stories have been credibly debunked.
Eiht is right. Orlando snatched the chain for clout, not a bounty. This was street politics within the gangs that played out, 2 Pac became the fall guy. If you snatch an item with a bounty, you conceal the item until you collect the bounty, you certainly don’t wear it out in the open because now, you’re the target of the bounty. Someone is coming to collect that bounty from your neck. The guy doing the interview wants it to be true soooo bad. It’s not. Whatever Puffy’s dealing we’re with the crips, they died in the backseat of an SUV in 1997.
@@ramonmorris560 Exactly crips and bloods been fighting for 40+ years not because of puffy just let the emotional Tupac stans believe in their conspiracies
I agree with what he is saying 100%. Cats just don't want to blame Tupac for his own death, by his own actions. So they make conspiracy theories about any and everyone else
2pac is partially to blame nobody is saying he wasn't but, Keefe himself has admitted to puffys involvement. Keefe was actually there we (including eiht) weren't.
@@jackjill8129 If Keefe D was actually telling the truth. It still would not have involved Tupac. Until Tupac put himself in the situation. If he would have sat back and let the gang bangers do gangbanging stuff. He would have never died that night. Same way if he never hung with Haitian Jack or dealt with Henchman he wouldn't have gotten robbed at Quad Studios. This isn't a isolated situation where Tupac got himself in a bad situation.
@@Mighty_The_Don Tupac has history of doing way too much way before DR. Quad Studios, shooting the cops in Atlanta etc. It was always going to catch up sooner or later. He was a little man trying his hardest to be big
Yeah, but the way everything ended up, Eiht still has a valid point...the interviewer is missing the whole point - Death Row and Southside crips were beefing a while before Vegas. Pac should not have walked up to Orlando in Vegas plain and simple. Puffy ain't got nothing to do with Pac's death
@@josephtaylor-kennedy1420 Puffy literally hired those guys to go at Death Row. In turn, they jumped his friend for his chain. Anyone in that age group would have reacted as such. Well, a true friend would. You can’t fault him for defending a friend, some ppl are just that loyal.
@@BourneKnightso puffy told Orlando to be in the lobby of mgm knowing pac was going to run up and he would retaliate? Lol you making Puffy sound like the ultimate puppet master
@@QuietStorm93 Not necessarily, but the events which lead up to the Vegas incident were in fact Puffy’s doing. It was his hired muscle that went around looking for Death Row associates at his behest.
Exactly. There was already a beef between Crips and DeathRow bloods. Truthfully, Tupac initiated that fight. He'd probably still be alive but he insisted on involving himself.
"So pac just happened to get into a fight with the same ppl puffy was using as protection u dont see no connection" 😅 art had me rolling on this one but i agree with art on this mc eight trippin actin like puff was somehow just completely innocent foh
EXACTLY HE KILLING ME TOO BECAUSE HE REALLY NOT BEING HONEST ABOUT IT.... NO WAY IS THAT JUST AN COINCIDENCE TO GET INTO IT WITH THE SAME PEOPLE THAT'S PROTECTING PUFFY BY ACCIDENT.... I TOTALLY AGREE WITH ART MYSELF.... MC EIHT IS FULL OF SHIT STRAIGHT UP!!
@@theodoresmith1445exactlyyyy and with eveything that has come out from puffy being a weirdo with men and females idk how mc could act like he innocent, like it’s a connectionnn
Nah he ain’t defending it, he pretty much saying people that think with that conspiracy theory that puff put a bounty on death row chain got Tupac killed is straight dumb and really need to grow a mind of there own
At the end of the day a Crip is going to back a Crip over a Blood, even if both Crip sets are opps, much like GDs backing a Crip over a Blood. Hell, usually a Crip will back a GD against a Blood like how a VL would usually back a Blood over a GD.
Naw, he’s pointing out the fact that people who don’t really know about how gang banging operates,this was a Crip-Blood feud,it’s just Pac got caught up in it
every year art has chris carroll come on so he can go viral over 2pacs last words...every month art asks everyon who killed 2pac and big and he just beats dead horses ovee and over
When so many things that go in the same stream happen in the same way at the same time you start to have what is called a "perfect storm" or an orchestrated event
When so many things that go in the same stream happen in the same way at the same time you start to have what is called a "perfect storm" or an or So, eitherI get his points, and I concur, yet the probability (P) of PiruBlds and Crops engaging in a drive-by can be reduced if they leave their territory to common ground without previous agreement to engage in common ground. That is to say, to engage by chance reduces the P of what EimMC is telling. The P also reduces if there is police, and even more if there are FBI, LVPD and other agencies surveilling, unless they are involved or not caring. The P of happening increases if someone paid or said they were going to be paid. However, P of the previous events/streams happening at the same time, with the person who told/put the reward being actually involved decreases dramatically. And that's why you have a "conspiracy theory" bc sometimes is hard to believe that all those thinga can happen at thw same time. Yet the P is not 0. What EiMC says has therefore sense, bc with all the other elements out, or limited to PiruBlds vs crops the P of happening is high and the same theoretically remains if it is limited to 2 elements of 0.9 P of engaging. Theoretically and limited, though.
I agree with Eiht, if Puffy put the bounty on the death row chain, and Pac attacked Orlando because of that. It would make sense,but Pac didn't know who Orlando was until Trayvon pointed him out So how would Pac know Orlando was affiliated with Puffy if he couldn't recognize him without Trayvon pointing to him?
@janadrianbettard8822 well enough to know he scared to say something about Puff. He thinking Puff will stop him from getting money. Maybe u can't comprehend
Keefe D could be dragging Puffy name into this to sell Books. "He Say She Say" means Nothing in Court. You Need a Concrete Proof in Court. Take Dat Take Dat Bad Boy
I think that is the key detail that is often lost. 2Pac didn't only react out of loyalty. He probably felt directly connected because it was Puffy who put the bounty out on the chain.
That is how he felt. He felt Puffy did that because he was with Death Row now. It was a Death Row vs Bad Boy thing for Tupac in that MGM NOT Piru vs Crips
Basically what he saying is that puffy got to much power and mc doesn't want those problems..he basically said that the art of dialogue dont give a fuck..
EXACTLY FACTS!! HE KNOWS WHERE HIS BREAD 🍞 IS BUTTERED!! HE MOVED SMOOTHLY OUT OF THIS ONE, INDIRECTLY PROTECTING PUFFY. PUFFY HAS POWER IN THE MUSIC WORLD. I DON'T BLAME 8. IF YOU LISTEN TO 8 SPEAK, HE'S TELLING YOU THAT HE CAN'T SAY IT, BECAUSE HE'S NOT THAT FREE. ART IS 100 PERCENT CORRECT! TOO MANY PEOPLE HAS SAID THAT THERE WAS A BOUNTY ON THAT CHAIN, SO WHY CAN'T 8 SEE THAT. HE KNOWS IT'S TRUE, BUT IF HE SAY IT ON PUBLIC, SOME SOUTHSIDERS MAY COME KNOCKING ON HIS DOOR. I'M NOT MAD AT 8, HE HAS TO PROTECT HIMSELF, AND THAT'S WHY HE SWITCHED UP.
Translation: the gate keeper is watching and I don't want those problems. Rip Pac but we ain't going to fall on the sword to get the gate keeper locked up.
Eiht obviously doesn’t know the depth and details of the case. Not his fault but it’s not all conspiracy theories as he tries to make it. Art definitely making his point and Eiht taking it a different direction. It’s not all on Puffy but he does share some responsibility 💯
Not really,gang banging beefs goes on every day,it sounds more like the South side Crips were jealous of Death Row success,back in those days before 2Pac came to the Row,Dre and Snoop were already having too much problems with actual gang bangers,Suge himself said that the reason he got the first gun charge
Eiht knows gang politics better then this dumb art of dialogue nigga Keefe D ass lying Puff ain’t put a bounty on no death row chains or a hit on Pac, Puff is too smart for that why u think he’s worth millions and Suge ass in prison because Puff ran Bad Boy like a business just while Suge ran Death Row like a gang doing gang shit which is the only reason they number one artist killed and their CEO in prison!
He’s not making a valid point. If we going off cause and effect, that shit started before the mall incident. Why Puffy supposedly put a bounty out in the first place?
@@pcangeldust yeah the weapon to avenge Orlando's beat down. He said they would never have acted if Pac didn't hit Orlando. So how can Keefe then expect a million out of Puff? He acted out of anger that is not a contract killing.
I see what he's coming from. As a gang banger, it's the same story over and over. He knows the people involved and knows their mentality. The sets were already beefing. They didn't need Puff to do what they were ALREADY doing. Even if Puff gave a little push, he's like so what. He's right
He believes his he got wendy williams fired from hot 97 back in the day and prevented angie martinez from releasing the 2pac interview. Have u notice everyone can speak on 2pac but biggie is protected property
Baby lane was placed there, by himself for the jump off, the REASON to ride down on them. It's like he was stalking them by himself and knew they were going to react. Lane was the bait on the hook and Pac bit. I believe if Pac didn't touch Lane, and the others stomped him out, they were still going to ride on Pac. It's 1M on the table, they wanted a reason to ride down on Pac and Suge. That was a SET UP! Members roll together, especially knowing these dudes in the house! I know the game! Lane, go over there and if they do anything, we gonna get they ass! Eiht know what it was. Sometimes even gang bangers need a reason to ride on some people, so they created a reason.
Thank u Art for pressing Eiht. I sware i stood next to him years ago and he was talking shit about 2Pac. It shows in his interviews how he feels about Pac.
We were in Daytona when a friend of mine told Eiht that Pac was a better rapper than him. Eiht went slap the f*ck off on Pac. He said "F*ck Tupac, that nigga claim Oakland, he from f*uckin Oakland," etc. etc.😮
They explained how that connected to the MGM fight & you choosing not to include all details PAC wasnt no blood he stood up for homeboys now ya ignoring facts & having selective hearing once the man dead. Either let him RIP OR STFU IF U NOT GON TELL THE REAL STORY
Eiht a clown and a snitch and he always saying Tupac died “gang banging” when that wasn’t even the case. It was a Death Row vs Bad Boy thing for Tupac because of the Bounty’s not a Piru vs Crip thing like Eiht always trying to make it seem like
🤣 I Appreciate your comment, b/c I was about to click off this. 🤣 MC8 keeps deflecting w/ "those are rumors, gossip, conspiracy..." Art, "Buy Keefe D said it." MC8 "those are rumors." 🤣🤣🤣 I think MC8's brain is in a different interview.
@@MrUnpredictable187 Duh...,they're both trying to support their own versions. What Art isn't recognizing and acting like he doesn't know or that he doesn;t understand is that everybody is responsible for their own actions while Art wants to blame rhe whole thing on what Puffy did. Tupac didn't have to attack Orlando because he heard Trayon say that he tried to take his DR chain, that was Tupac's choice and the consequeces were unfortunate. Art is biased himself or maybe he doesn't know that Puffy had no way of knowing that his putting a bounty on DR chains if that is what he did, would trigger (no pun intended) what would lead to Tupac's death. Tupacs's decision to lead the attack on Orlando based upon what he heard is what directly led to his death.
Just run an audit on Puffy's bank accounts between 1996-97. Every $1M withdrawal should be explained. Conspiracy/RICO has a way of involving someone based on hearsay alone. Then too, a litigation trial does need much either. Thanks Art for, posing the hit hard questions and not going for the around the ban yard answers.
Let's say Puffy DID pay someone to steal the chain. Does that mean that he also wanted 2Pac killed? Absolutely not. That night, a crip got attacked by bloods in a casino lobby. No one had to offer them money to go get revenge.
The Art Of Dialogue won this debate. MC Eiht finally admitted at the end of the video that no one wants to call out Puffy because they scared they will get black balled.
@@SaudiGod I believe AOD is just trying to get to the truth about 2pac death. Can it sometimes be a little to much yes. As far as rape 2pac was acquitted of rape. He was found guilty of touching unlawful touching of someone's butt. Which im pretty sure has happen to 1/2 0f the American population. My butt was squeezed in a club, should I go and file charges. No its not that serious to me.
8 right. Even if Puff paid for that, there's no connection as to why Pac, of all people, would get involved much less initiate the brawl. I love Pac what Pac stood for but the evil side of his Gemini traits got the best of him. He was a hot head in one moment and cool as hell the very next.
Yea Art got a point, if Puff never put the hit out to get the chain then Lane wouldn’t have snatched the chain which when Tupac seen Lane in Vegas it was on sight, then Lane had to get back at Tupac because his reputation was on the line.
What happened before that to to cause it? The beef didn't start at Lakewood Mall. It was already on way before then, and I'd bet my bottom.dollar that Puff wasn't the aggressor in the beef.
Everybody are grown men and that made grown man decisions that had grown man consequences… we all have choices… one five second decision can affect your life
Keefe D NEVER said Puff put a bounty on Deathrow chains. In fact he said the opposite. He said those Deathrow chains were garbage and not worth anything. He said, Puff wasn’t a hater like that and just wanted to get his money. Where is Art getting his story from?
The problem is people try to draw too much into it. It’s always a conspiracy when a celebrity dies or gets killed. If Puffy laid down a plan this good then he had to have had a crystal ball or some helping him. We can sit here all day and contemplate the ifs but like that old saying goes, “If if was a fifth, we would all be drunk”
TRUE THAT! THE GANGS WERE ALREADY KILLING EACH OTHER, BUT PUFFY INFLUENCE WITH THE BOUNTY ON THAT CHAIN TOOK THAT SHIT TO A WHOLE ANOTHER LEVEL. YES, PUFFY HEAVILY INFLUENCED THAT INCEDENT!!
Keefe is a rat with conflicting stories. He also said Puff was going to give him an M to hit Pac. You believe that bs? The president don’t get hit for an M. And you think gangbangers would catch a body then accept never getting paid for it if there really was an agreement. Can we not be so gullible
There isn't anything wrong with giving your perspective. EIht just wish u used a different choice of words ( conspiracy). I feel Art conducted himself like a true pro. Art your level of integrity & character speak volumes of the type of person you are. Keep it up, I stayed glued to AOD. Keep the interviews coming.
Yeah, you have missed the point and what you said still is untrue. A murder for hire (bounty) was put out by Puff so Orlando being attacked was connected to the bounty. There were two bounties put out, I think it was 10k for a Death Row chain then a mil for Pac and Suge. And that mil bounty dates back to the party at JD's house where Suge's best friend Big Jake was killed by someone affiliated by Puff and the Quad studio (Bad Boy's studio) hit on Pac.
It became gang affiliated bc Puff needed protection coming out west. Zip was in bed with Southside and other Crips, so it made sense for Puff to align with them. Suge was wildin and trying to put hands on any Bad Boy associate that he came across. He even went as far as trying to find out Puff's mom's address.
how is that hating. It was gang oriented suge bro was blood that died in atl. puff never paid nobody to snatch a chain that’s non sense.. and what does orlando snatching a chain months later have to do with orlando standing there in the casino by himself waiting for pac
People saying MC Eiht is a hater, then you really don’t understand Los Angeles or Compton when it comes to Crimson bloods that situation could happen without puffy, no matter how you look at it and they were both number one rival gangs against each other. That’s some fax for you.
I know this was three weeks ago..but I wanna ask, what facts did he hit him with? He got his "facts" from Keefe D, & we all know Keefe lies sometimes. The only truth he can really say was, about the shooting..mainly cause he was in the car Now about the chain snatching? You still can't give Puff any credit for this, cause let's say Puff didn't put a bounty out for the chain & the chain got snatched anyway..Pac still would have died, just by his loyalty & being involved in gang politics he had no business in
Not facts he said puffy had a bounty for a death row chain but the guy puff allegedly told told dat is dead! KeffeD said it was told by zip! All Keffe d said was puff should look out cause we killed the man that want you and Biggie dead hard
@@TheEsquireofSports.2.0 I’m not one of them. I am a reasonable responsible adult who always knew he was killed in retaliation of jumping a well known crip. Tupac could have done so much more with his talents but he chose to be a menace 🤷🏽♀️
FIRST OFF… Keenfe D ain’t say puff put a bounty out, MOB JAMES SAID there was a bounty out.. Keefe d said ain’t nobody want them 500 dollar chains.. FACT CHECK
Puffy doesn't seem criminally responsible for the death. But the cause and effect of the bounty is undeniable.... Theres a chain of event that led up to that as well. So it's unclear if he should be held responsible in any way
Exactly. 2pac followers want and even need the dial to stop then begin from Puff/Biggie/Bad Boy. Smh I think most people understand that you can't bully or mess with people forever...eventually the scared one is going to fight back and the reaction likely will be worse than the initial bullying.
Puffy is a dirt ball but he’s not criminally responsible for what happened to Pac. Keefe D is a pathological liar idk how people pick and choose which of his lies to believe and not believe.
Keefe D and company were all Bad Boy affiliates in those days, don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. In fact, the initial scuffle down at the mall in which a death row artist was beat up was far from random, let’s just leave it at that.
@BourneKnight Keefe D and the Southside crips were hired security that Puffy never paid, and that's where that ends. Orlando got stomped out because they (Southside crips) took deathrow chain. Pac was killed because he and others attacked Orlando in the casino...NOT because of no damn hit that puffy sent.
So Puffy’s responsible for Pac stupidly sucker punching a gang member he didn’t know and getting shot to death as a result? The logic there is amazingly childish and Stan-ish.
This is a Great interview by MC EIHT he kicking straight Facts and it’s Hard for people to accept the Truth. Art is so busy dismissing all the facts that have come out over the years. It wasn’t an East coast West cost beef. It was Bad boy vs Death row. Crips have always had beef with bloods. That’s nothing new. In other interviews the real beef was not just about Trevon lane yes it was a fight in the mall but they said it was one of the young homies who was going to college and they saw the kid getting pressed and they stood up for the kid because he wasn’t a gang member he was a civilian. Gang members have always killed each other.
Yeah definitely bro. If he watches this back he must surely tipple this himself. He says only 1 of them in the car is dead. No Orlando dead, think Zip definitely and Terrence whatever his last name is/was, dead too unless am getting confused.
Mc Hard.... After the interview MC calls the feds to snitch. This stuff cracks me up. These dude are so hard and "loyal" but as soon as their facing something, they start singing.
If we wanna do that, let’s take it back further. If Pac had not blamed Biggie for him getting shot and started a whole coast beef, then none of this would’ve happened. Also much more directly, if Pac hadn’t attacked a known murderer, then cruised around like it was all good then none. of this would’ve happened. Let’s be real.
Everything Because of Puffy??Frankly, you shouldn't have put this comment in this section, you look like people who blame the whole world when an unfortunate thing happens to them when every time you wake up life offers you the chance and the choice to do what good seems to you
@@KingStone-so1ylthat whole bounty on a chain is probably some bullshit from the start , but Puff honestly wasn’t tryn to apply any pressure to a 6”5 320 CEO and “BISHOP”… This sorta the same reason Big Jake died from Suge tryn to extort/apply pressure to off in ATL ..
Check out the Vlad video were TK Kirkland said that he knows first hand that puffy gave dude 500,000 to give to Keefe D’ for the hit, but Von Zip which was his roommate at the time kept the money and opened up a club instead.
First he said gangs snatch chains and puffy had nothing to do with it, then he said he cant discredit keffe d’s story.
Exactly
He said the cops can’t move on that because it has no evidence. There’s two different topics being discussed. Why the law isn’t moving on Puff and people picking and choosing what you believe. He’s said in other interviews parts he doesn’t necessarily understand but he always says that’s Keefe’s story and he can’t discredit. And he’s right the only people that can discredit what Keefe is saying are all dead.
He been making a fool of himself this whole interview
Exactly he scared of puff
I'm from New York Harlem and the streets know. Also, Diddy roots are connected nto some real black mobsters. This is a Blockbuster story or movie.
Who Else laughed when Art said "Keefe D said it"
Anyone else peep MC Eiht Body language he knows he dont believe his own words
Lol but KD confessed to it on a wire tap with the feds.
Eiht is just scared
@@timmy841212 yea, that's understandable but if you stand for truth how can anyone trust u. Eiht know the truth but then why come in for an interview about 2pac
Exactly, never seen Eiht so fidgety, dude's normally interviews smooth and chill about any subject.
@@FAMc81 exactly 💯
I’ve watched plenty MC Eiht interviews and noticed his energy towards PAC is pretty consistent . He never liked PAC since the table readings .
Agreed. And it's pretty clear that he doesn't like PAC even if he hasn't clearly said it.
What table 😳 😐 readings 📚 🤔
@@maverickworld8192 for Menace II Society
@@maverickworld8192 The table readings for Menace To Society . You know the movie .
I agree ☝🏾
"These niggas is jealous
'Cause deep in they heart they wanna be me"
Damn!!! U hit it on the money
Ambitions..,
I respect Art for questioning Eight’s logic
Eith has no logic
Art shouldnt invite this clown again.
Plz don't interview this Pac hater again bro
Nah, but Art is following the conspiracy theory to.
@@Silkysmooth-qk5ncEiht is correct, you have to separate the wheat from the chaff and only Keithy D is saying this and because people who are Pac fans love Pac so much, they let what Keithy say cloud their vision.
It's not what you know, it's what you can prove
Exactly
Training day Jake lol good movie 🍿 lol.😂😂
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But the part about Orlando is true tho? How u gon prove that? Just cuz kefee said it? But kefee also said puffy was involved so why that part is unbelievable?
That is only court talk. That doesn't matter with street talk.
MC Eiht - "People like to assume and people like to make assumptions..."
Art - "Keefe D said it!"
LOL
Keefe D could be dragging Puffy name into this to sell Books. "He Say She Say" means Nothing in Court. You Need a Concrete Proof in Court. Take Dat Take Dat Bad Boy
Eiht is the type of person that accepts everything on face value and doesn’t do any digging to actually get the story and facts straight.
His perspective is as gangbanger, that has seen the same thing happen 1000 times over. To him it's all the same thing.
No he is just thinking like a lawyer. Which is logical.
No. I think any reasonable, logical person wouldn't entertain the BS. And definitely not anyone who has ever lived/survived the element. It would be more logical for Sean to have paid for a hit, not a chain. Even though that is farfetched.
The folks digging don't got facts ether so what you saying
Eiht is basically saying there is no solid evidence on puffy.
What would be the evidence, Keefe D's testimony? Talking in a UA-cam video is one thing but testiying on the withness stand is another thing. If Keefe D testified to that under oath he would be hemming himself up, saying that he accepted a million dollar contract for a hit and carried it out. If he's not in trouble alread then he surely would be then. And even if he did that where would he have evidence that Puff paid him a million dollars for it.
How do he know?
None of this happens without Puffy, ain’t Pac damn near get killed in New York??? I think I think Pac volatility was gonna have his life at risk 24/7, just how he lived
Seem like he puffy lawyer at this point 😭
@@rovingwarrior3710everything you saying is somewhat true but from Keefe's last art interview it's pretty safe to say if he does get arrested for the 2pac situation he's definitely going to implicate puffy. He's giving off a vibe of "if I go down I'm not going down by myself".
TRUE THAT! THE GANGS WERE ALREADY KILLING EACH OTHER, BUT PUFFY INFLUENCE WITH THE BOUNTY ON THAT CHAIN TOOK THAT SHIT TO A WHOLE ANOTHER LEVEL. YES, PUFFY HEAVILY INFLUENCED THAT INCEDENT!!
This is what we’ve heard (about Puffy having placed a bounty on Death Row chain), but has it ever been proven? A lot of these stories have come from Keefe D, but as Art says, everyone seems to pick and choose which aspects’s of Keefe’s stories to believe. But many of Keefe’s stories have been credibly debunked.
Dumb azz gangbangers don't pull off drive-by's on the Vegas strip.
And don't forget that Keefe claims that puff offered him a million$ to take out suge & 2pac.
Bullshit
claims built upon claims built upon claims. bounties, chains, 1mil. Case Closed.
I love it Mc Eiht. A non biased interview. salute
Stop it that was biased as hell, he’s speaking like a nigga from brooklyn.
Eiht is right.
Orlando snatched the chain for clout, not a bounty. This was street politics within the gangs that played out, 2 Pac became the fall guy.
If you snatch an item with a bounty, you conceal the item until you collect the bounty, you certainly don’t wear it out in the open because now, you’re the target of the bounty. Someone is coming to collect that bounty from your neck.
The guy doing the interview wants it to be true soooo bad. It’s not. Whatever Puffy’s dealing we’re with the crips, they died in the backseat of an SUV in 1997.
@@ramonmorris560 Exactly crips and bloods been fighting for 40+ years not because of puffy just let the emotional Tupac stans believe in their conspiracies
Stop, it wasn’t some random crips.. it was the same crips that we’re hanging with and protecting puffy..
Tupac died because he tried to be hood
I agree with what he is saying 100%. Cats just don't want to blame Tupac for his own death, by his own actions. So they make conspiracy theories about any and everyone else
This about Puffy Eiht you a clown and you talking in circles
2pac is partially to blame nobody is saying he wasn't but, Keefe himself has admitted to puffys involvement. Keefe was actually there we (including eiht) weren't.
@@jackjill8129 If Keefe D was actually telling the truth. It still would not have involved Tupac. Until Tupac put himself in the situation. If he would have sat back and let the gang bangers do gangbanging stuff. He would have never died that night.
Same way if he never hung with Haitian Jack or dealt with Henchman he wouldn't have gotten robbed at Quad Studios.
This isn't a isolated situation where Tupac got himself in a bad situation.
I think is chain of events. Pac felt the snatch of DR chain was attack on him due to the diss songs. It wasn't about Bloods and Crips.
@@Mighty_The_Don Tupac has history of doing way too much way before DR. Quad Studios, shooting the cops in Atlanta etc. It was always going to catch up sooner or later. He was a little man trying his hardest to be big
He's just proving that everyone has their own version of what happened
Yeah, but the way everything ended up, Eiht still has a valid point...the interviewer is missing the whole point - Death Row and Southside crips were beefing a while before Vegas. Pac should not have walked up to Orlando in Vegas plain and simple. Puffy ain't got nothing to do with Pac's death
@@josephtaylor-kennedy1420 Puffy literally hired those guys to go at Death Row. In turn, they jumped his friend for his chain. Anyone in that age group would have reacted as such. Well, a true friend would. You can’t fault him for defending a friend, some ppl are just that loyal.
@@BourneKnightso puffy told Orlando to be in the lobby of mgm knowing pac was going to run up and he would retaliate? Lol you making Puffy sound like the ultimate puppet master
@@QuietStorm93 Not necessarily, but the events which lead up to the Vegas incident were in fact Puffy’s doing. It was his hired muscle that went around looking for Death Row associates at his behest.
Exactly. There was already a beef between Crips and DeathRow bloods. Truthfully, Tupac initiated that fight. He'd probably still be alive but he insisted on involving himself.
"So pac just happened to get into a fight with the same ppl puffy was using as protection u dont see no connection" 😅 art had me rolling on this one but i agree with art on this mc eight trippin actin like puff was somehow just completely innocent foh
Mc Eiht I love the music but you tripping you must be scared of puffy closing doors on your career or endeavors
: Eight ain't been the same since Quik beat his a** back in the day
EXACTLY HE KILLING ME TOO BECAUSE HE REALLY NOT BEING HONEST ABOUT IT.... NO WAY IS THAT JUST AN COINCIDENCE TO GET INTO IT WITH THE SAME PEOPLE THAT'S PROTECTING PUFFY BY ACCIDENT.... I TOTALLY AGREE WITH ART MYSELF.... MC EIHT IS FULL OF SHIT STRAIGHT UP!!
@@theodoresmith1445the opposite gangs you mean?
@@theodoresmith1445exactlyyyy and with eveything that has come out from puffy being a weirdo with men and females idk how mc could act like he innocent, like it’s a connectionnn
Keffe was under no obligation to mention Puff unless he had to tell the full truth. This isnt no twist lol
You are RIGHT on this Art, and for those of us who have done their homework WE KNOW the truth
Mc Eiht defending it like HE was in the back seat 😭🤣
Nah he ain’t defending it, he pretty much saying people that think with that conspiracy theory that puff put a bounty on death row chain got Tupac killed is straight dumb and really need to grow a mind of there own
At the end of the day a Crip is going to back a Crip over a Blood, even if both Crip sets are opps, much like GDs backing a Crip over a Blood.
Hell, usually a Crip will back a GD against a Blood like how a VL would usually back a Blood over a GD.
Naw, he’s pointing out the fact that people who don’t really know about how gang banging operates,this was a Crip-Blood feud,it’s just Pac got caught up in it
@@Mr.Majestic77not necessarily that depends on what state you in and who is trippin on who at the time we not automatic opposition ⭐🤝🏾✡️
He defending it like puff lawyer paid him too
Tune in 3 months from now when Mc Eiht returns and Art asks the same questions about tupac
every year art has chris carroll come on so he can go viral over 2pacs last words...every month art asks everyon who killed 2pac and big and he just beats dead horses ovee and over
And you'll be here viewing and commentating... Again
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@rafa7622 oh you one of them new age sensitive dudes
When so many things that go in the same stream happen in the same way at the same time you start to have what is called a "perfect storm" or an orchestrated event
So, either a very coincident stream of so many things involved, a perfect storm (natural event) or an orchestrated event (a socio-logical event)
When so many things that go in the same stream happen in the same way at the same time you start to have what is called a "perfect storm" or an or
So, eitherI get his points, and I concur, yet the probability (P) of PiruBlds and Crops engaging in a drive-by can be reduced if they leave their territory to common ground without previous agreement to engage in common ground. That is to say, to engage by chance reduces the P of what EimMC is telling.
The P also reduces if there is police, and even more if there are FBI, LVPD and other agencies surveilling, unless they are involved or not caring.
The P of happening increases if someone paid or said they were going to be paid. However, P of the previous events/streams happening at the same time, with the person who told/put the reward being actually involved decreases dramatically. And that's why you have a "conspiracy theory" bc sometimes is hard to believe that all those thinga can happen at thw same time. Yet the P is not 0. What EiMC says has therefore sense, bc with all the other elements out, or limited to PiruBlds vs crops the P of happening is high and the same theoretically remains if it is limited to 2 elements of 0.9 P of engaging. Theoretically and limited, though.
I agree with Eiht, if Puffy put the bounty on the death row chain, and Pac attacked Orlando because of that. It would make sense,but Pac didn't know who Orlando was until Trayvon pointed him out So how would Pac know Orlando was affiliated with Puffy if he couldn't recognize him without Trayvon pointing to him?
Right
He didn't have to know him. Knowledge of a "bounty on a deathrow chain" would inform him of what it was about.
He said all that just to say he don't want no problems with Puff is what i heard 🤷🏾♂️
U ain't listen well
@janadrianbettard8822 well enough to know he scared to say something about Puff. He thinking Puff will stop him from getting money. Maybe u can't comprehend
fact
Facts big bruh 😭😎👍🏿💯
Finally MC eight sayin it right,,,n stil people don't want to see it
"I want the truth!"
" You can't handle the truth!"
LMFAO
Keefe D could be dragging Puffy name into this to sell Books. "He Say She Say" means Nothing in Court. You Need a Concrete Proof in Court. Take Dat Take Dat Bad Boy
About time someone is being real about this….🤘🏼
10:21 when he said Puffy or Piffy I fell out 😂
Dudes just be trying to act confused because they don't wanna say what they really thinking
I think that is the key detail that is often lost. 2Pac didn't only react out of loyalty. He probably felt directly connected because it was Puffy who put the bounty out on the chain.
Yup that’s what I been saying for years and that’s what napoleon always says
💯
Exactly 💯. He wasn't tryna be a piru he just felt that his personal issues with bad boy were partially to blame for what happened.
Exactly 🎯
That is how he felt. He felt Puffy did that because he was with Death Row now. It was a Death Row vs Bad Boy thing for Tupac in that MGM NOT Piru vs Crips
Art like: “This the last time i’m interviewing him”
One of the best takes on it. Eight was very objective
Interviewer was trying to push a narrative
Basically what he saying is that puffy got to much power and mc doesn't want those problems..he basically said that the art of dialogue dont give a fuck..
Exactly
U don't listen very well
Nah hes jus being a know it all street guy
Dude just admitted he's scared that he won't be able to do a podcast in the future because of puffy.😂
People respect power 🤷🏿♂️
EXACTLY FACTS!! HE KNOWS WHERE HIS BREAD 🍞 IS BUTTERED!! HE MOVED SMOOTHLY OUT OF THIS ONE, INDIRECTLY PROTECTING PUFFY. PUFFY HAS POWER IN THE MUSIC WORLD. I DON'T BLAME 8. IF YOU LISTEN TO 8 SPEAK, HE'S TELLING YOU THAT HE CAN'T SAY IT, BECAUSE HE'S NOT THAT FREE. ART IS 100 PERCENT CORRECT! TOO MANY PEOPLE HAS SAID THAT THERE WAS A BOUNTY ON THAT CHAIN, SO WHY CAN'T 8 SEE THAT. HE KNOWS IT'S TRUE, BUT IF HE SAY IT ON PUBLIC, SOME SOUTHSIDERS MAY COME KNOCKING ON HIS DOOR. I'M NOT MAD AT 8, HE HAS TO PROTECT HIMSELF, AND THAT'S WHY HE SWITCHED UP.
You caught that 🤔.....
If you scared, don't ask the answer the question. But don't say things that may intrude the truth.
@@c.s3369what power lol
He's on point about puffy not having nothing to do with that
Exactly 💯 💯 💯 💯
If Dry Snitching was a UA-cam channel ... _Art of Dialogue_
😂😂😂
Translation: the gate keeper is watching and I don't want those problems. Rip Pac but we ain't going to fall on the sword to get the gate keeper locked up.
Pretty much. It's sad, but it's painfully obvious at this point.
fact. it needs to stop
Eiht obviously doesn’t know the depth and details of the case. Not his fault but it’s not all conspiracy theories as he tries to make it. Art definitely making his point and Eiht taking it a different direction. It’s not all on Puffy but he does share some responsibility 💯
Y’all weirdo really be acting like y’all was there., Tupac Stans are dumb
Conspiracy is what he did
Not really,gang banging beefs goes on every day,it sounds more like the South side Crips were jealous of Death Row success,back in those days before 2Pac came to the Row,Dre and Snoop were already having too much problems with actual gang bangers,Suge himself said that the reason he got the first gun charge
Eiht knows gang politics better then this dumb art of dialogue nigga Keefe D ass lying Puff ain’t put a bounty on no death row chains or a hit on Pac, Puff is too smart for that why u think he’s worth millions and Suge ass in prison because Puff ran Bad Boy like a business just while Suge ran Death Row like a gang doing gang shit which is the only reason they number one artist killed and their CEO in prison!
He’s not making a valid point. If we going off cause and effect, that shit started before the mall incident. Why Puffy supposedly put a bounty out in the first place?
Eiht just got done like Kane in the back room,”You know you done Fucked up,you done fucked up!”
😂😂😂
We all have our opinions... But y'all can't tell me that Mc Eiht ain't trolling 😂
PUFF may have done what Keffe D said but the Feds would have to prove it happened 😮
But the feds won't do it because Puff did them a favor why do you think after Pac's death Puffy became a billionaire.....
@@alexandro-britodacosta6325He obviously didnt become a billionaire till 26 yrs later, goofy.
Puffy might have made a throwaway comment about wishing Pac died. But Keefe admits himself they wanted revenge for jumping Orlando so that's that.
@@CakeFace86 Eric von zip provided the murder weapon and had keefe to do the hit for puffy that night if you believe keefe D.
@@pcangeldust yeah the weapon to avenge Orlando's beat down. He said they would never have acted if Pac didn't hit Orlando. So how can Keefe then expect a million out of Puff? He acted out of anger that is not a contract killing.
Mighty ironic puffy goes an gets the enemy neighborhood as protection. Come on Eiht you should be smarter than this.
U delusional
Why did he need protection? Oh.. a lunatic (Suge Knight)
Nothing ironic about it. It’s smart.
Because Zip was connected with Southside. Why wouldn't he? He wouldn't have aligned with them if Suge wasn't acting a damn fool.
This dude just said he’s scared of getting black balled by puffy
Yup , he is afraid of puff gone stop that bag.
@@Ms.A.Matthews415what bag lmaoo this nigga been done with music yall sound stupid. the cops know that chain story is pure BULLSHIT
I see what he's coming from. As a gang banger, it's the same story over and over. He knows the people involved and knows their mentality. The sets were already beefing. They didn't need Puff to do what they were ALREADY doing. Even if Puff gave a little push, he's like so what. He's right
Finally. Someone with common sense
The only thing Eiht said correct is that Puff is now a Gate keeper.
He believes his he got wendy williams fired from hot 97 back in the day and prevented angie martinez from releasing the 2pac interview. Have u notice everyone can speak on 2pac but biggie is protected property
Eiht is not saying to much because Puff still has power in the industry he agreed with Art to a certain extent but was still disagreeing
Yep, he’s scared of puff’s power, let’s be honest
Buffy gay as hell tho nothing to b scared of lol
No it’s baseless rumor
@@PR-WAY😂😂
MC is being reasonable and doesn't have anything to do with him hating on Pack. No one knows where you come up with that kind of logic or wisdom.
Baby lane was placed there, by himself for the jump off, the REASON to ride down on them. It's like he was stalking them by himself and knew they were going to react. Lane was the bait on the hook and Pac bit. I believe if Pac didn't touch Lane, and the others stomped him out, they were still going to ride on Pac. It's 1M on the table, they wanted a reason to ride down on Pac and Suge. That was a SET UP! Members roll together, especially knowing these dudes in the house! I know the game! Lane, go over there and if they do anything, we gonna get they ass! Eiht know what it was. Sometimes even gang bangers need a reason to ride on some people, so they created a reason.
Thank u Art for pressing Eiht. I sware i stood next to him years ago and he was talking shit about 2Pac. It shows in his interviews how he feels about Pac.
I don’t think Eiht a Pac hater he’s just not tryna say anything bad about puff cause he still got power in the industry
Fscts
@@youngcity4241It’s easy to hear if you listen dude don’t like Pac
We were in Daytona when a friend of mine told Eiht that Pac was a better rapper than him. Eiht went slap the f*ck off on Pac. He said "F*ck Tupac, that nigga claim Oakland, he from f*uckin Oakland," etc. etc.😮
@@dannybuck4445how?
They explained how that connected to the MGM fight & you choosing not to include all details PAC wasnt no blood he stood up for homeboys now ya ignoring facts & having selective hearing once the man dead. Either let him RIP OR STFU IF U NOT GON TELL THE REAL STORY
Facts
Eiht a clown and a snitch and he always saying Tupac died “gang banging” when that wasn’t even the case. It was a Death Row vs Bad Boy thing for Tupac because of the Bounty’s not a Piru vs Crip thing like Eiht always trying to make it seem like
I like how Art pushing back on these dudes
Yeah but he's not making any sense. MC Eight is right.
People need to learn how to think critically and not believe everything that sounds good to them.
He finally admitted that Art was right at the end 😂
RIGHT..!!! That man is burnt TF OUT!!!
Lol he couldn’t argue with it 😂
🤣 I Appreciate your comment, b/c I was about to click off this. 🤣 MC8 keeps deflecting w/ "those are rumors, gossip, conspiracy..." Art, "Buy Keefe D said it." MC8 "those are rumors." 🤣🤣🤣 I think MC8's brain is in a different interview.
MC Eiht can’t be this slow to understand what Art of Dialogue is saying…😂😂😂😂
If you're listening, Art has been saying that he wants Puffy locked up.
Lmao
Unfortunately he is!!!
Sheesh
@@rovingwarrior3710 Ik that duh… I’m saying Mc Eiht was acting like he can’t understand what art was trying to say to him.
@@MrUnpredictable187 Duh...,they're both trying to support their own versions. What Art isn't recognizing and acting like he doesn't know or that he doesn;t understand is that everybody is responsible for their own actions while Art wants to blame rhe whole thing on what Puffy did. Tupac didn't have to attack Orlando because he heard Trayon say that he tried to take his DR chain, that was Tupac's choice and the consequeces were unfortunate.
Art is biased himself or maybe he doesn't know that Puffy had no way of knowing that his putting a bounty on DR chains if that is what he did, would trigger (no pun intended) what would lead to Tupac's death. Tupacs's decision to lead the attack on Orlando based upon what he heard is what directly led to his death.
Just run an audit on Puffy's bank accounts between 1996-97. Every $1M withdrawal should be explained. Conspiracy/RICO has a way of involving someone based on hearsay alone. Then too, a litigation trial does need much either. Thanks Art for, posing the hit hard questions and not going for the around the ban yard answers.
Let's say Puffy DID pay someone to steal the chain. Does that mean that he also wanted 2Pac killed? Absolutely not. That night, a crip got attacked by bloods in a casino lobby. No one had to offer them money to go get revenge.
Eiht sound like he owe Puffy some money. Man dancing around everything 🕺🏿🕺🏿🕺🏿🕺🏿
MC8 been slow hating on Tupac since the show in Milwaukee .
How he a hater
Yep
The Art Of Dialogue won this debate. MC Eiht finally admitted at the end of the video that no one wants to call out Puffy because they scared they will get black balled.
Right, including himself
I agree Eiht don't wanna fumble the bag. KD confessed if Daddy felt people were lying why not sue someone.
art has an unhealthy obsession over a dead convicted rapist its creepy
@@SaudiGod I believe AOD is just trying to get to the truth about 2pac death. Can it sometimes be a little to much yes. As far as rape 2pac was acquitted of rape. He was found guilty of touching unlawful touching of someone's butt. Which im pretty sure has happen to 1/2 0f the American population. My butt was squeezed in a club, should I go and file charges. No its not that serious to me.
Sad that he’d suck off Puffy than be a man… so his word means 💩
8 right. Even if Puff paid for that, there's no connection as to why Pac, of all people, would get involved much less initiate the brawl. I love Pac what Pac stood for but the evil side of his Gemini traits got the best of him. He was a hot head in one moment and cool as hell the very next.
This is the first time art asked more than 4 questions in one interview great job 😊 I love it
He just told on his self he’s intimidated because he still want to do shows and be irrelevant and eight is my dude but he on some bullshit
How by speaking facts?
He being diplomatic and economical to the truth.
You gotta leave the G out his name because the G ain’t in him 😆
I don't know if it's a crip Thang or what but come on Eight . Puff and the Chain bounty started a lot of friction.
Like he said it's a crip and blood thing
Crazy, it’s still quiet but it’s like we’re sitting around waiting for all of this to drop lol
Yea Art got a point, if Puff never put the hit out to get the chain then Lane wouldn’t have snatched the chain which when Tupac seen Lane in Vegas it was on sight, then Lane had to get back at Tupac because his reputation was on the line.
How do you know Puff put a bounty on the chain? Oh yeah Keefe D said it so it's gotta be true.
U or art can prove that Bozo.. y’all Tupac Stans are dumb.. the only person that say puffy put a bounty on a death row chain is keefe d
What happened before that to to cause it? The beef didn't start at Lakewood Mall. It was already on way before then, and I'd bet my bottom.dollar that Puff wasn't the aggressor in the beef.
So it’s Puffy’s fault that 2Pac made the choice to willingly go and assault Orlando?
Everybody are grown men and that made grown man decisions that had grown man consequences… we all have choices… one five second decision can affect your life
They trying to protect puffy 😂😂😂😂😂
Keefe D NEVER said Puff put a bounty on Deathrow chains. In fact he said the opposite. He said those Deathrow chains were garbage and not worth anything. He said, Puff wasn’t a hater like that and just wanted to get his money. Where is Art getting his story from?
Its about money not gangs !!!
he argued, then agreed, hmmm
He didn’t agree Bozo.. y’all Tupac Stans are dumb
Like Quik said “E-I-H-T, now should I continue?
Yeah, you left out the G 'cause the G ain't in you”
The problem is people try to draw too much into it. It’s always a conspiracy when a celebrity dies or gets killed. If Puffy laid down a plan this good then he had to have had a crystal ball or some helping him. We can sit here all day and contemplate the ifs but like that old saying goes, “If if was a fifth, we would all be drunk”
If my aunt had a dick she would be my uncle💯
Interview speaks on he say she say an mc ehit shines the light of the real shit ✅💯
Eiht part of the game. He knows damn well everything ain't what it looks. It's bigger than gang shit
Nope it's gang shit lol
🤦🏿♂️
MC Eight don’t want to give credit to an outside entity sparking this gang conflict. 😂😩😂 just admit it.
They was already killing each other before they came along 😂😂😂
Because it didn’t happen you mfs believe anything!
TRUE THAT! THE GANGS WERE ALREADY KILLING EACH OTHER, BUT PUFFY INFLUENCE WITH THE BOUNTY ON THAT CHAIN TOOK THAT SHIT TO A WHOLE ANOTHER LEVEL. YES, PUFFY HEAVILY INFLUENCED THAT INCEDENT!!
@@Stealth-im7ldThat's a buncha cap
Cause he speaking facts. Yall delusional.
Ever since Eiht said he left the ‘95 source awards tells me he don’t like confrontation. So he ain’t gonna answer what he truly feels.
Clickbait. Nothing “Heated” about this. He just spoke about FACTS, a lot of people rather be entertained… that’s the death of reality…
The c stands for contradiction instead of crip for MC Eiht
Art had him stuck when he said Keefe D said it 😂
💯
Art knows how to get folks squirming 😂
Yall cant see 8 just saying that shit aint gonna hold up in court
Keefe is a rat with conflicting stories. He also said Puff was going to give him an M to hit Pac. You believe that bs? The president don’t get hit for an M. And you think gangbangers would catch a body then accept never getting paid for it if there really was an agreement. Can we not be so gullible
Let's be honest pac didn't fuck with mc eiht
Didn't puffy write a million dollar check for that hit?
And zip took it
Eiht gotta go to the party.. he can’t front on Puff.. “I’m cool with east coast niggaz” - Eiht 🤷🏾♂️🤣😂
Right
He really talking in circles... He knows THE WHOLE STORY fa shooo 🗣️📢
This is equal to a suspect walking in a police station saying...YOU GOT NOTHING ON ME ...Instead of saying..hey I'm innocent 😅😂
How he talkin in circles when he speaking facts
@@janadrianbettard8822He is not speaking facts
@@ndudipeterelumelupeterelum7183 he's not calling Keefe a liar
All them old crip niggas kno
There isn't anything wrong with giving your perspective. EIht just wish u used a different choice of words ( conspiracy). I feel Art conducted himself like a true pro. Art your level of integrity & character speak volumes of the type of person you are. Keep it up, I stayed glued to AOD. Keep the interviews coming.
They call it “The Butterfly Effect “
I guess some individuals really fear Puffy.
Respectfully it's true. I'm from Harlem New York and puff is a black mobster type individual. I learned to never judge people.
Don't know why he's fluffy as hell
They don’t want to “take that, take that” 😂
Puffy the most Gangsta one out all of them. He still alive rich beautiful family he beat the game lol
@@rokarion6979”I’ma win cuz I’m too smart for these cats “
Tupac attacking Orlando takes Puffy out of responsibility. Come on Art.
Exactly!!
You've missed the point.
Yeah, you have missed the point and what you said still is untrue. A murder for hire (bounty) was put out by Puff so Orlando being attacked was connected to the bounty. There were two bounties put out, I think it was 10k for a Death Row chain then a mil for Pac and Suge. And that mil bounty dates back to the party at JD's house where Suge's best friend Big Jake was killed by someone affiliated by Puff and the Quad studio (Bad Boy's studio) hit on Pac.
@@slip-n-rollboxing1826 no crime is investigated like that.
Art The Clown.
Suge and Puff had real beef. It became deadly at a party in ATL. It wasn’t even gang affaire. Why is MC Eight hating on Pac like this
It became gang affiliated bc Puff needed protection coming out west. Zip was in bed with Southside and other Crips, so it made sense for Puff to align with them. Suge was wildin and trying to put hands on any Bad Boy associate that he came across. He even went as far as trying to find out Puff's mom's address.
how is that hating. It was gang oriented suge bro was blood that died in atl. puff never paid nobody to snatch a chain that’s non sense.. and what does orlando snatching a chain months later have to do with orlando standing there in the casino by himself waiting for pac
People saying MC Eiht is a hater, then you really don’t understand Los Angeles or Compton when it comes to Crimson bloods that situation could happen without puffy, no matter how you look at it and they were both number one rival gangs against each other. That’s some fax for you.
I see what 8 is saying but Art hitting you with some facts 💯
I know this was three weeks ago..but I wanna ask, what facts did he hit him with? He got his "facts" from Keefe D, & we all know Keefe lies sometimes. The only truth he can really say was, about the shooting..mainly cause he was in the car
Now about the chain snatching? You still can't give Puff any credit for this, cause let's say Puff didn't put a bounty out for the chain & the chain got snatched anyway..Pac still would have died, just by his loyalty & being involved in gang politics he had no business in
Homie I know u sharper than that what other death row chain was snatched outside of the shyt at the mall @@OGTone20
Not facts he said puffy had a bounty for a death row chain but the guy puff allegedly told told dat is dead! KeffeD said it was told by zip! All Keffe d said was puff should look out cause we killed the man that want you and Biggie dead hard
@@TheEsquireofSports.2.0 I’m not one of them. I am a reasonable responsible adult who always knew he was killed in retaliation of jumping a well known crip. Tupac could have done so much more with his talents but he chose to be a menace 🤷🏽♀️
“Keefe D said it”
Stutter stutter stuter….stutter 😭😭😭
Anybody know where i can get that shirt mc eiht wearing ?
FIRST OFF… Keenfe D ain’t say puff put a bounty out, MOB JAMES SAID there was a bounty out.. Keefe d said ain’t nobody want them 500 dollar chains.. FACT CHECK
Puffy doesn't seem criminally responsible for the death. But the cause and effect of the bounty is undeniable.... Theres a chain of event that led up to that as well. So it's unclear if he should be held responsible in any way
Where the proof at Bozo.. keefe d is a known criminal.. why would the police listen to him?
Exactly. 2pac followers want and even need the dial to stop then begin from Puff/Biggie/Bad Boy. Smh
I think most people understand that you can't bully or mess with people forever...eventually the scared one is going to fight back and the reaction likely will be worse than the initial bullying.
@@Ms.A.Matthews415 you're right. IF he did have a bounty then that is most definitely a conspiracy. But proving that is the problem.
@@Ms.A.Matthews415 Based off of what? Hearsay?
Puffy is a dirt ball but he’s not criminally responsible for what happened to Pac. Keefe D is a pathological liar idk how people pick and choose which of his lies to believe and not believe.
KEEFE D IS STILL SAYING THAT HE HOPES PUFFY WAS STILL GOING TO HELP HIM OUT OR THROW HIM A SCRAP!!!
Keefe D and company were all Bad Boy affiliates in those days, don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. In fact, the initial scuffle down at the mall in which a death row artist was beat up was far from random, let’s just leave it at that.
Facts
@BourneKnight Keefe D and the Southside crips were hired security that Puffy never paid, and that's where that ends. Orlando got stomped out because they (Southside crips) took deathrow chain. Pac was killed because he and others attacked Orlando in the casino...NOT because of no damn hit that puffy sent.
Still waiting on payment for the hit
So Puffy’s responsible for Pac stupidly sucker punching a gang member he didn’t know and getting shot to death as a result? The logic there is amazingly childish and Stan-ish.
This is a Great interview by MC EIHT he kicking straight Facts and it’s Hard for people to accept the Truth. Art is so busy dismissing all the facts that have come out over the years. It wasn’t an East coast West cost beef. It was Bad boy vs Death row. Crips have always had beef with bloods. That’s nothing new. In other interviews the real beef was not just about Trevon lane yes it was a fight in the mall but they said it was one of the young homies who was going to college and they saw the kid getting pressed and they stood up for the kid because he wasn’t a gang member he was a civilian. Gang members have always killed each other.
Eiht just contradicted the hell out of himself.
He low-key a pac hater
@@riccolewis7399man I've been thinking the same thing but didn't want to believe it
Yea he sound crazy on here
Yeah definitely bro. If he watches this back he must surely tipple this himself. He says only 1 of them in the car is dead. No Orlando dead, think Zip definitely and Terrence whatever his last name is/was, dead too unless am getting confused.
Bro! If the guy who's responsible for Pacs death said puffy did it then I believe it!
Well are you from Compton or do you know any of these guys that are talking
The guy who said that is a convicted criminal and has been caught on videos in multiple lies. He would never make it to the stand.
So you believe whatever he says then 😂
It ain’t what you believe it’s what can be proven.
Eth don’t make no sense, he doesn’t get the point
People believe what they want to believe. Mc Eiht spitting facts 💯
Mc Hard.... After the interview MC calls the feds to snitch. This stuff cracks me up. These dude are so hard and "loyal" but as soon as their facing something, they start singing.
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He a 🤡 like Quik said he’s a movie motion picture Gangsta
Wtf is you talking about😂
It had everything to do with Puffy…if Puffy didn’t put a bounty on a Deathrow Chain none of this would’ve happened
LA is loud grimey NYC we know how to be quiet low key grimey and act innocent like nothing happened and he still doing that till this day
If we wanna do that, let’s take it back further. If Pac had not blamed Biggie for him getting shot and started a whole coast beef, then none of this would’ve happened. Also much more directly, if Pac hadn’t attacked a known murderer, then cruised around like it was all good then none. of this would’ve happened. Let’s be real.
Everything Because of Puffy??Frankly, you shouldn't have put this comment in this section, you look like people who blame the whole world when an unfortunate thing happens to them when every time you wake up life offers you the chance and the choice to do what good seems to you
People love conspiracies
@@KingStone-so1ylthat whole bounty on a chain is probably some bullshit from the start , but Puff honestly wasn’t tryn to apply any pressure to a 6”5 320 CEO and “BISHOP”… This sorta the same reason Big Jake died from Suge tryn to extort/apply pressure to off in ATL ..
Right. Get him. Art of dialog.
Thanks 4 standing ur ground against eight!
We listened and understand
Check out the Vlad video were TK Kirkland said that he knows first hand that puffy gave dude 500,000 to give to Keefe D’ for the hit, but Von Zip which was his roommate at the time kept the money and opened up a club instead.