Man even watching that frame by frame i could barely tell where ramattra went. In the literal 10 frames it took to turn around he disappeared into the stratosphere
Lifeline was high ground on the little platform right around the corner, he got there with his flower petal platform. Lifeline proceeds to grab him up!
14:30 ok so 225 base pin damage - 20% (bastion ironclad passive) -> 180 pin damage 100 of the damage goes to the overhealth from the lifeweaver tree -> 80 damage going to the actual health bar - 30% (armor damage reduction) -> 56 actual health damage and then when he got lifegripped out, it healed back 50 of that damage so the pin effectively did 6 damage, which was almost instantly recovered by the tree 👍
@@commentbot9510Yeah it's not like Bastion has a stupid amount of health, armor, and a passive that reduces damage. Weaver is complete nonsense right now but this one specific interaction is actually not his doing, and one character being overtuned because it has a crap kit doesn't tell anything about the overall support balance. Supports are fine, they are just as strong as other heroes after spending years being free targets.
Agreed, it looked like Flats was forcing cooldowns to make space and trying not to die, tbh tank doesn't really feel like playing the game in these kinds of matchups
@@cpenner7086 It is one reason, among many. A reason they have been vocal about specifically. At this point citing all 485 reasons is hardly worth yours nor my time..
@@Real_MisterSirMy favorite one is from the player base "6v6 wasn't good, remember double shield" 🤓. Like Blizzard waiting until OW2 to finally rework Orisa was a inherent fundamental problem and not balance wise.
I'm glad we're not alone down in the depths and even GM players occasionally have these chaotic games where nothing makes sense. Just tends to happen more often the lower you go xD
Earlier today I emptied an entire clip into a turret form Bastion as Tracer, then stuck him with a pulse bomb, recalled, peaked the corner again, full HP Bastion just standing there. Lifeweaver/Illari was the enemy support duo. But you already knew that....
Well, not all support players know what they are doing, im low diamond and had a mercy in one game that didnt know they can rez and damage boost, they were just healbotting...so yeah, supports are busted if you know what you are doing lol@@funkycrawler619
bro this is honestly such a good topic a big thing that my exs or even friends would say when i would be like hey i love this game check it out they would just be so confused and they just couldn’t keep up with everything this was 3-4 years ago so it’s just wild
You know what you should do? Find some pictures of the most visually cluttering fights possible (Like so much shit on the screen, you have to wonder how the replay function hasn't crashed levels of visually cluttering) and you try to figure out which ultimates, abilities, and character projectiles are being used.
came back after taking a break for a few years and during MH match it felt like I was playing maple story boss battle. lifeweaver, hanzo, ramattra and zen between both teams all hit Q at about the same time. I had no idea what the hell was going on.
This has been what hes been asking for. Always crying about matches being a 50/50 coin toss rofl stomp, but when he finally gets 2 good teams together he complains that the supports are healing and boosting too much, the dps are taking high ground too effectively and the tank is playing his life and creating space. Flats generally thinks hes the main character in his story and flip flops in all of his dialogue, its crazy.
@@scotttimbrell8632I think he's kinda frustrated bc he pretty much couldn't kill anyone and was just a damage sponge the entire match so he might felt he wasn't doing anything for the team idk
Learning where you can rocket jump with soldier or grenade jump with bastion is a good idea, cuse damn that repositioning to high ground is terrifying.
I relate so much to how many times Flats was like "WHAT IS HAPPENING?!" Because I've felt that in so many matches lately xD Especially when Illari uses her ultimate. The visual effect around your screen is so in your face it's disorienting at least in my experience. I think it should be toned back a little bit
its a 50% on the lw and the other 50% at the teammates; a lw can get you into high ground but if the player is dumb and doesnt get why that is a better position than just being on the ground then there's no value, a lw cant fix stupid
Man, I remember when I first started playing Overwatch, back in 2016 in the open beta and early on after release. I didn't know the maps and was very lost, and there were many things happening on screen at the same time during fights and stuff, took a bit to get used to it and be able to know what everything was. I can't imagine starting playing Overwatch 2 nowadays, with so many visuals in your face, especially during chaotic team fights.
Visual clutter is a big part of why I slowly stopped playing Overwatch 1, glad to see it's improved in Overwatch 2 /s Side note: that other team's Wifeleaver was pretty good with those Ram pulls. Let's hope they don't buff that character any further.
i was playing ana and there was a genii screaming for nano, i couldn’t even see him because there were two life weavers trees and a hanzo dragon flying through them.
I like how a game like this truly how smart and skilled flats is at overwatch. We dont get to see flats like this very often, being very invested in a match.
I love how flats has gone from *gets grabbed at 5 hp away from two dps* “I hate that character” To *gets grabbed at half hp from between two dps* “thanks man” Also I want flat to review this replay.
You're not wrong. Also when both LW's tree at the same time everyone should just stop playing and let them pass. No one is gonna die, and we're just gonna go crazy for 10 seconds with no actual progress. So let's just take a break, and pick it up after they drop. It's basically just 2 ultra instinct Goku's fighting each other.
I LOVE the visual clutter honestly, The fast pace chaos is my favorite thing about this game. I don't understand complaints about the chaos. I'd play a more tac shooter if I wanted less
It's so funny being an OWL player and having people watch you play when it comes to this situation My father watches me sometimes when I use the TV and always points how the fuck do I even manage with how crazy and bright it is LMAO
Lifeweaver, Illari, Ramattra, Bastion, Sombra, Mei, Reinhardt, Baptiste, the only way you could have more things going on at once is having Symmetra or junkrat in this mix of mayhem XD
Blizzard: to reduce clutter we have removed a tank player from each team! Also Blizzard: yes every character has a spawnable object/effect that can stack with others and block up to 70% of your screen...
The difference between gold and GM is that the gms expected bastion to flank and then killed him. The golds would die to him 50 times and no one would turn around
When i was in gold and playing tracer/soldier everyone was expecting people to come from the flanking angles, so i think you all may be thinking of bronze, theres people in gold that should be high plat at best lol@@commentbot9510
@@Kat-xp8zn if it is needed, there is a place for it Low-rank players usually ult out of good timings, not like high-rank players, in most cases of course
Flats I need some help I want to rank up, but I don't have the confidence. I want to know if I'm pretty good or shit I don't know how to send clips. I think I'm low gold high sliver, but idk
This game is too overwhelming for sure when youre in upper ranks. Its frustrating and draining. I’ll play like 2 games every 3 days and its peak stress.
I was just talking about this the other day lol. Was trying to shoot the other team as Ashe and I literally couldn't see anything because so much was going on.
Bastion with tree overhealth, with ironclad, with armor, has effectively about 550 health, larger than some tanks. I am become bastion, destroyer of pubs.
Can confirm when I first played this game that sometimes you can’t see who tf you’re shooting at. At times I end up shooting my teammates for a second. Game it dog shit when you have a fucking casino slots machine showing so much shit
I complained about the visual clutter to the accessibility department A long time ago, but they, like the rest of Blizz, completely ignore the legally blind person, excluding me from being able to play this game seriously, its not fun.
The entire team was a circus, with Ramattra being the Head Magician.
Flying robots, appearing forests, and disappearing magicians.
🗿
XD
The Ramattra: “And for my next trick, I will make your entire healthbar *DISAPPEAR!”*
😂😂😂💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣
LeBlanc from LoL reference!
Tank diff
Dang, you beat me by 2 hours of your posting. Lols
@@RexRagerunner I’ve never played league of legends in my life.
Man even watching that frame by frame i could barely tell where ramattra went. In the literal 10 frames it took to turn around he disappeared into the stratosphere
Lifeline was high ground on the little platform right around the corner, he got there with his flower petal platform. Lifeline proceeds to grab him up!
“Lifeline” lol
@@ame7leebeen playing too much apex eh, I do the same thing playing both I mix them up, I sometimes call the hero’s, legends
he got yoinketh 😂
at this point you just gotta have the eyes of a GM/T500 genji main.
14:30 ok so
225 base pin damage
- 20% (bastion ironclad passive) -> 180 pin damage
100 of the damage goes to the overhealth from the lifeweaver tree -> 80 damage going to the actual health bar
- 30% (armor damage reduction) -> 56 actual health damage
and then when he got lifegripped out, it healed back 50 of that damage
so the pin effectively did 6 damage, which was almost instantly recovered by the tree 👍
Fun game design
Supports are definitely balanced.
@@commentbot9510 bastion alone reduced 50% of it lol
@@commentbot9510Yeah it's not like Bastion has a stupid amount of health, armor, and a passive that reduces damage. Weaver is complete nonsense right now but this one specific interaction is actually not his doing, and one character being overtuned because it has a crap kit doesn't tell anything about the overall support balance. Supports are fine, they are just as strong as other heroes after spending years being free targets.
@@j1nxxj9 does he have a 50% damage reduction passive or something
Ramattra: "And for my next trick, I will make you SUFFER AS I HAVE"
I think we might have gone from supports playing dead by daylight in the backline to tanks playing dead by daylight in the frontline
Agreed, it looked like Flats was forcing cooldowns to make space and trying not to die, tbh tank doesn't really feel like playing the game in these kinds of matchups
@@akai_shuichi_xit really just feels like mostly trying not to die at this point. You get punished so fast rn
Dbd? What’s that?
asymmetric hiding game with monsters and survivors @@DeWighty
its like cbt
@@DeWighty
This was one of the best games of OW that i have watched in a while. Holy shit it was a whole damn field trip lol
"PLEASE let this be a normal field trip..."
"With the busted-up Overwatch Patch? No Way!"
it isnt even busted what? @@ravelnavarro9625
This is exactly what I was thinking. I haven't smiled this much while watching Overwatch in a long time.
agreed big time, this match was wild.
proof that King's Row is the best map, period
Lifeweaver is one buff away from making a one fight last an hour
The real mystery was how Bastion got to high ground so many times
they boosted the nade knock back i think
Lifeweaver and grenade jumps exist
Anon: "Imma ignore that"
i think they double naded
Nade jumping and the flower
it’s a mystery because a bastion smart enough to take high ground doesn’t exist
Virtual reality is really making strides, they've accurately simulated the experience of having a panic attack
Playing Overwatch is like staring dead straight at a neon sign.
At least the sign gives out a soothing buzz instead of whatever the fuck this was, hahaha
Blizzard: 6v6 was too confusing gameplay so we removed a tank
5v5 gameplay: 4:58
We might have to switch to a 4v4 after this one.
@@chummysomething9828 4v4 would be hell the
but that isnt why they removed 6v6...
@@cpenner7086 It is one reason, among many. A reason they have been vocal about specifically. At this point citing all 485 reasons is hardly worth yours nor my time..
@@Real_MisterSirMy favorite one is from the player base "6v6 wasn't good, remember double shield" 🤓. Like Blizzard waiting until OW2 to finally rework Orisa was a inherent fundamental problem and not balance wise.
4:44 The enemy LW was doing a pretty good job moving Bastion around to contest point
Thanks :) 😂
I'm glad we're not alone down in the depths and even GM players occasionally have these chaotic games where nothing makes sense. Just tends to happen more often the lower you go xD
I'm glad it's not just a me thing, because it happens to me sometimes in Titanfall 2.
Sorry to burst the bubble but not rlly true. Our lobbies r nowhere near this level of chaotic lol
Earlier today I emptied an entire clip into a turret form Bastion as Tracer, then stuck him with a pulse bomb, recalled, peaked the corner again, full HP Bastion just standing there. Lifeweaver/Illari was the enemy support duo. But you already knew that....
Supports: Do their job keeping team alive
DPS mains: Their busted
DPS mains: *dies*
DPS mains: Supports suck
you when lw does his job: 😔😢😭😭
Well, not all support players know what they are doing, im low diamond and had a mercy in one game that didnt know they can rez and damage boost, they were just healbotting...so yeah, supports are busted if you know what you are doing lol@@funkycrawler619
if you had put the pulse bomb on the weaver, he would have died
Oh god that bastion pin at the end. Straight up nothing done
Woah the tank experience looks fun in this game haha
I mean that actually looked very fun. I like when the fights get chaotic
still better than double shield. Ill take it
@@FlightX101 I too love having a broken finger over a broken femur
bro this is honestly such a good topic a big thing that my exs or even friends would say when i would be like hey i love this game check it out they would just be so confused and they just couldn’t keep up with everything this was 3-4 years ago so it’s just wild
You know what you should do? Find some pictures of the most visually cluttering fights possible (Like so much shit on the screen, you have to wonder how the replay function hasn't crashed levels of visually cluttering) and you try to figure out which ultimates, abilities, and character projectiles are being used.
good example of how having a talented lifeweaver can be a saving grace in a game
came back after taking a break for a few years and during MH match it felt like I was playing maple story boss battle. lifeweaver, hanzo, ramattra and zen between both teams all hit Q at about the same time. I had no idea what the hell was going on.
That was for sure one of the craziest matches you uploaded and it's rlly up to debate whether or not it was enjoyable or straight up stressful
This has been what hes been asking for. Always crying about matches being a 50/50 coin toss rofl stomp, but when he finally gets 2 good teams together he complains that the supports are healing and boosting too much, the dps are taking high ground too effectively and the tank is playing his life and creating space. Flats generally thinks hes the main character in his story and flip flops in all of his dialogue, its crazy.
@@scotttimbrell8632 Yeah, Flats has massive ego.
@@scotttimbrell8632I think he's kinda frustrated bc he pretty much couldn't kill anyone and was just a damage sponge the entire match so he might felt he wasn't doing anything for the team idk
@@Drezito_27well he's the one that's always said that Overwatch isn't won by raw damage or healing outputs 🤷
Yes a flats video to watch in a boring meeting. Heck yes!!
how's the meeting going?
@@owenhopkins3622 >.> so bored, thank god for this video
I read that as boring meta but I think either fits 😂
@@sonderbain lol fair, I agree!!
I see you everywhere dude, im concerned with this many boring meetings 😂
"Theres trees its like a forest out here" sent me 😂
Learning where you can rocket jump with soldier or grenade jump with bastion is a good idea, cuse damn that repositioning to high ground is terrifying.
"I wish I could do mo- Bastions dead? I'm going in."
15:35 this might be the funniest shit i've ever seen. Ram looks like an anime villain
Its funnier that his name was "justvibin" and Ram does look like he's just vibing up there.
ilari on both teams devolves to who can break or cycle pylon first lol.
I relate so much to how many times Flats was like "WHAT IS HAPPENING?!" Because I've felt that in so many matches lately xD
Especially when Illari uses her ultimate. The visual effect around your screen is so in your face it's disorienting at least in my experience. I think it should be toned back a little bit
Y'all are so used to seeing bad Lifeweavers that you're mystified when you see one actually properly saving and repositioning their teammates.
its a 50% on the lw and the other 50% at the teammates; a lw can get you into high ground but if the player is dumb and doesnt get why that is a better position than just being on the ground then there's no value, a lw cant fix stupid
Man, I remember when I first started playing Overwatch, back in 2016 in the open beta and early on after release. I didn't know the maps and was very lost, and there were many things happening on screen at the same time during fights and stuff, took a bit to get used to it and be able to know what everything was. I can't imagine starting playing Overwatch 2 nowadays, with so many visuals in your face, especially during chaotic team fights.
I want fan art of a delirious Rein just having war flashbacks to all this healing and life weaver pulls and trees🤣
The supports in this game. Wow. Awesome gaming from them
Dude your supports are god tier. I've never been supported this well in my 600 hours of playing lmao
What a game!
Teleporting Ramattras and all!
Visual clutter is a big part of why I slowly stopped playing Overwatch 1, glad to see it's improved in Overwatch 2 /s
Side note: that other team's Wifeleaver was pretty good with those Ram pulls. Let's hope they don't buff that character any further.
i was playing ana and there was a genii screaming for nano, i couldn’t even see him because there were two life weavers trees and a hanzo dragon flying through them.
12:54 that was rad
When did they give Ramattra the ability to teleport?
The heal creep is too real bro, if someone gets pocketed by a fucking LW he just wont die bro
lifeweaver must have been putting in overtime in the background with this levitating bastion lmfao
Something similar happened to me using Reaper. Dove on Ram and the mfr disappeared and had me spinning in circles.
I like how a game like this truly how smart and skilled flats is at overwatch. We dont get to see flats like this very often, being very invested in a match.
Ram had the perfect view of your shatter when he got pulled
I swear the clip is funnier in first person because ramattra basically pulled a batman, as soon as the camera wasn't on him he was gone
15:45
Your wheeze laugh gives me life like nothing else lmao
Ramratta after he makes the entire enemy team's health bars disappear, TA DAAAA
I love how flats has gone from
*gets grabbed at 5 hp away from two dps* “I hate that character”
To
*gets grabbed at half hp from between two dps* “thanks man”
Also I want flat to review this replay.
When Overwatch 2 finally feels like a sequel.
Crazy game - I love it.
Yay thank you flats. I needed more videos to watch😋
My brain turns off when I see 2 lifeweaver trees happen at once.
You're not wrong. Also when both LW's tree at the same time everyone should just stop playing and let them pass. No one is gonna die, and we're just gonna go crazy for 10 seconds with no actual progress. So let's just take a break, and pick it up after they drop. It's basically just 2 ultra instinct Goku's fighting each other.
That match looked insanely fun
I LOVE the visual clutter honestly, The fast pace chaos is my favorite thing about this game. I don't understand complaints about the chaos. I'd play a more tac shooter if I wanted less
sounds like adhd
15:30, "I must go now, my planet needs me"
That EMP bug should stay😂😂
Suprised you survived all that
“I don’t know if I’m having fun or trauma” could be Overwatch’s marketing slogan
He's right, all tanks work... Not because they're all impactful, but because none of them do anything
That bastion was doing some parkour
Lifeweaver with the long range rope-a-dope
It's so funny being an OWL player and having people watch you play when it comes to this situation
My father watches me sometimes when I use the TV and always points how the fuck do I even manage with how crazy and bright it is LMAO
I appreciate the use of bramble blast as background music
this was the most chaotic game i’ve seen i think ever in ow2 …
Lifeweaver, Illari, Ramattra, Bastion, Sombra, Mei, Reinhardt, Baptiste, the only way you could have more things going on at once is having Symmetra or junkrat in this mix of mayhem XD
4:46 OMFGGGGG what’s going onnn 😂😂😂
Blizzard: to reduce clutter we have removed a tank player from each team!
Also Blizzard: yes every character has a spawnable object/effect that can stack with others and block up to 70% of your screen...
Okay this happens to me ALL THE TIME and I thought it was just me and I was the problem.
the whole video was so entertaining omg. The lifeweavers here really made it interesting! Really upped the gameplay
Rare footage of OW UA-camrs having fun
Two take aways from this video: I can not tell the difference between a gold 5 lobby and a GM 1 lobby, and there is too much healing in this game.
The difference between gold and GM is that the gms expected bastion to flank and then killed him. The golds would die to him 50 times and no one would turn around
When i was in gold and playing tracer/soldier everyone was expecting people to come from the flanking angles, so i think you all may be thinking of bronze, theres people in gold that should be high plat at best lol@@commentbot9510
I never noticed how many things there are in this game that just counter Reinhardt and make playing him feel like a fever dream...
Overwatch: the only game where you have to question whether you're having fun or going into cardiac arrest
1:48 I like when someone said "It's ultin' time!" and everybody just ulted
Ikr, funny because gm players always say using all your ults at the same time is a low rank thing...turns out it isnt huh
@@Kat-xp8zn if it is needed, there is a place for it
Low-rank players usually ult out of good timings, not like high-rank players, in most cases of course
Bro really “Umm actually’d” me on a silly remark, I know why the ult thing exists, dont need to explain something when someone jokes around something.
Okay, sorry then
I want to see how Bastion made that jump holy hell i didn't even know that was possible
new buff i think
could've bomb launched
Think lw might have pullle him up
The grenade jump is now insane
@@fignite8641idk how people aren't realizing this 😭 it was def lifeweaver
broooo Flats laughs in this videos got me dying LMAO
Flats I need some help I want to rank up, but I don't have the confidence. I want to know if I'm pretty good or shit I don't know how to send clips. I think I'm low gold high sliver, but idk
This game is too overwhelming for sure when youre in upper ranks. Its frustrating and draining. I’ll play like 2 games every 3 days and its peak stress.
I was just talking about this the other day lol. Was trying to shoot the other team as Ashe and I literally couldn't see anything because so much was going on.
I haven’t been this entertained since the “Tower of Terror” game during the double shield meta.
They need to nerf healing. OW is basically total mayhem arcade mode now without the reduced cooldowns.
This was just fun to watch!
LW ult kept the bastion more than alive. It's useful now
oh i caught the title change for once, the magician ram title will forever live in my heart
Bastion with tree overhealth, with ironclad, with armor, has effectively about 550 health, larger than some tanks. I am become bastion, destroyer of pubs.
One of your best videos. Period.
You gotta love Hectic Games Like these..
The Comms were hilarious 😂
Top 500 call-outs: "gaming, gaming, gaming!!" 😂
Overwatch 1 Players: WE'RE TIRED OF SEEING NOTHING BUT DOUBLE SHIELD EVERY GAME!
Blizzard: We understand your concerns and fixed the issue.
the amount of times I’ve gotten overwhelmed if two rams ult at the same time. That shit is painful.
there’s one payload map with piñatas and a foutain that when we get past the bridge i can’t see shit cuz it’s all red
This was truly a game of overwatch
So much oxygen from those trees man lmao
Can confirm when I first played this game that sometimes you can’t see who tf you’re shooting at. At times I end up shooting my teammates for a second. Game it dog shit when you have a fucking casino slots machine showing so much shit
The classic overwatch experience i miss
This was MADNESS
Fr tho everything is slowly and slowly getting more hard to see what going on from all the ability colors and effects
Lifeweaver ultimate is too strong rn
this entire match REEKS of absolute brain rot
I complained about the visual clutter to the accessibility department A long time ago, but they, like the rest of Blizz, completely ignore the legally blind person, excluding me from being able to play this game seriously, its not fun.