Inhibiting Primitive Reflexes in Less Than 15 Minutes
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- In this video, I, Dr. Josh Madsen, will be demonstrating and explaining primitive reflexes in adults. Our focus will be on a patient who has faced multiple traumatic brain injuries. However, it's important to note that these reflexes can resurface due to a variety of stressors.
To begin, we'll test the Moro Reflex, observing the patient's blinking response and startle reflex. We'll then move on to the Tonic Labyrinthine Reflex, where the patient may experience balance issues and hyperextension during specific movements.
Next, we'll explore the standing asymmetrical tonic neck reflex and the symmetrical tonic neck reflex. This will involve observing the patient's arm and head movements in response to head rotations.
Additionally, we'll identify the presence of a spinal galant reflex, which can be observed when stroking the patient's back, causing her to curve towards the stimulated side.
Finally, I will conclude the video by examining the patient's ocular response during side-to-side head movements, allowing us to further understand the impact of these reflexes.
Overall, this video provides a visual demonstration of primitive reflexes in an adult who has a history of traumatic brain injuries. By showcasing these reflexes, I aim to increase awareness and understanding of their presence in adults and the potential factors that can contribute to their reemergence.
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I bet she walked out of that session so hopeful! And what a good sport she was. I hope she's doing well now.
She'll walk out of that completely traumatized by being brought into nerve-wracking positions that nobody with any kind of trauma would be able to manage. He's all doing it for the camera, no checking into her current state or any empathy. I feel deeply unsettled
Absolutely fascinating, I could literally see her transition right before my eyes. She appeared very heavy, sleepless, and dark. Afterwards she was glowing, hopeful, and smiling. She knew.😅❤
It’s also very obviously not any form of acting. I felt deep
Empathy here.
Wow this is facinating. First time ive come across this and it makes so much sense for me
So glad The Algo Gods sent this to me! Fascinating! So many questions 🤔 And such peaceful music.
This is absolutely magical to watch. Thank you both for sharing this process with the world.
I used to be an OT until I had a rare Hypoxic-iscemic brain injury as well as several concussions since. I'm in poverty on ssdi with Parkinsonism, dystonia and a long list of problems. I can't find a therapist that does anything close to this or anything else covered by medicare/medicaid. I feel hopeless. Money buys health. I have nothing to live for. If I could only afford help, i could help others instead of wasting away😢
You sound really sad. Sending you positive thoughts. Try to stay positive xxx
Praying to God for you
I stumbled on information about primitive reflexes only today. Commenters on the Harkla channel recommend yoga to integrate reflexes in children (5+) and adults. Perhaps with free online resources you'll be able to do your own therapy. I'm sorry you're struggling, but there is always hope.
@@dystoniaify just be aware that yoga is a spiritual practice, and to think that it is only stretching is incorrect.
@kathrynmcgarry309: Can’t tell if you’re coming at this from an anti-appropriation angle or suspicious practitioner of Abrahamic faith angle but in either case, the aspects of yoga practice which are helpful for improving prefrontal cortex and motor nerve function and working with neuroplasticity after an injury are not the spiritual practices associated with it. If somebody said prostrations, bowing, kneeling, or practicing the “crossing-yourself” motion might help rehabilitate a body part after an injury, nobody would have a problem. :)
Just to clarify for anyone confused he has a Doctorate in Chiropractic studies, not a MD
What is this even? Like seriously what is he trying to diagnose or treat?
Thank goodness for crusaders like yourself.
Crab, meet bucket, bucket, this is crab.
@@ag8912these are neurological symptoms following what sounds like multiple traumatic brain injuries.
@@ag8912you might want to go look at his other videos then, he does amazing work and is helping change lives
Oh😒….Thank you!
I find this SO interesting! I wonder how often you would have to do the stimulation so there is no regression.
6 months
Look into functional neurology. You can learn all about it if you train to do it. MD’s, chiropractors, etc are learning this to have better options to treat their patients.
Thanks for sharing this video. Are there any scientific papers that you can point me towards that explains / explores the mechanisms of action of the vibration / light stimuli?
I was actually listening with an open mind but as soon as he pulled out the red flashlight and was like "there all better" after 29 seconds of pointing it at her head, I knew it was bullshit lol.
@@firechyldwtf is this voodoo stuff anyways?
@@firechyldyou ever use heat on a sore muscle? that’s the general idea behind laser therapies. The heating up of targeted tissues using a beam of light (like burning a leaf with a magnifying glass kinda thing) is a very real phenomena, mate. Vibration is a whole thing in its own right, but another time..
@@ag8912haha peep what I replied above 😅
I am in vision therapy and told I have this! I have never liked loud noises or shouting but I don’t see the other ways it effects me
She could be completely sober and fail a impaired driving field sobriety test
No point in taking those.
@@dwwolf4636 well no one takes that test for fun. It’s required if you get pulled over for a traffic violation and police suspect you’re impaired. If she got pulled over and the police did that, she would fail, as they do the same eye test, the walking test, etc
@@cmargo10Fun fact: Field sobriety tests are not mandatory and can be declined… At least PA under its implied consent laws.
Yep
Fascinating. The session would feel more real though, less like a hypnosis demonstration, without the trancelike drone music.
I kinda like it lol gives me spa vibes lol
Can you explain why is it a red laser to stimulate the cerebellum?
The color likely does play a role, but I believe the general mechanism at play here is the promotion of heat in the tissues targeted.
You know that gut feeling when this looks and sounds too good to be true?
Yes, please listen to that inner voice.
Red light does not penetrate through your skull.
Good for saunas though but that's different.
I just web-searched it, and all the articles said, "... the red and near infrared photons penetrate through the skull and into the brain cells and ...".
Just do some research before commenting.
one google search disproves your claim. which means it isn’t too good to be true. rejoice!
@@camrynndemars2270 since you are so good at detective work. Is he a medical doctor? Did he finish medical school? Did he pass the medical board exams? Now sit down.
@@dodgek5270there are medical doctors training in functional medicine so they can get better results for their patients. I know a few myself.
A suggestion if I may,the background music seems too loud.
Hi Dr, i am glad to know I can get help for my 7 yrs old daughter who is having auditory processing and visual processing.
I have neurologist appointment by oct, hope to get a way.
Keep that appointment and do research on this guys credentials
Im trying to focus but the camera shaking sometimes is making me a lil nauseous
Same
Is this "fast track approach" suitable for retained primitive reflexes in general, or only if they resurface due to trauma, having previuously been fully integrated?
Is the vibrator frequency 60-90 Hz? Is the light you use a red-light frequency I thought you said it was a laser. Can you give any more information regarding the laser??
That can’t be an actual laser🤦🏻♀️ if you’ve worked with lasers you’d know
Great to see someone specialize in this. If you test someone and they are positive with most reflexes from fear paralysis to Babinski do you start with the reflex that should integrate first and then go in that order? Do you integration with later reflexes even if prior reflexes haven't quite fully integrated?
You start with the primary ones. You need those fixed to create a good foundation for the next issues to improve.
So you literally relax her there, give her a massage, and then test her reflexes when her nervous system is very relaxed after all of it. This really "makes" sense. Now try this same red light with a people who have movement problems, or their eyes are shaking, etc...
So happy I found this channel
That was amazing to watch!
Fascinating! How do we find therapists who work with this?
Find an advanced P-DTR practitioner
Lots of Occupational therapists are trained in integration
the experts as you have seen in this video are chiropractic neurologists...they are specialists, not general chiropractors.
they are not well trained in diagnosis....just some therapy. The example in this video is a chiropractic neurologist Dr Josh Madsen a doctor trained to examine, diagnose and treat neurological problems such as concussion injury in this video. Therapists do not have this kind of training or scope of practice.
Chiropractic? So fake doctor? Or not a medical doctor? Pseudoscience almost got me again. Sigh. I knew something was off when red light was somehow going to Improve mental problems.
You’re amazing love your videos.. want to learn more about reflex and it’s treatment pls let me know the procedure
Go to his web site or research functional neurology.
@@sexywarriorwomen thank you dear
My guy is rockin' St. Demetrios in the background. Makes me even more interested in what you have to say!
What is the vibration tool that you are using in this video?
rezzimax
It's this why some people seem so clumsy?
What kind of laser and vibration tool is used? Thanx
What’s the device? It’s that really all you need to fix it? Seems to simple ?
I have all of those things but have now developed intense tremors and muscles spasms in my neck, back and tummy. I know it’s to do with my reflex’s, neuropathy, base of my brain and adrenalin. Something isn’t right but God only knows what. I think it’s an easy fix but it’s finding the right consultant.
I swear it’s driving me insane now.ps. Brain scans were unremarkable.
Look at his web site.
Amazing results!
Just found your channel and new sub here!! Thank you!!
How is it possible that the reflexes get integrated so quickly?
because the doc explained what he's looking for in a positive response, so the patient now knows what to do. so the more they do it, its obvious shes going to try to do what to doc is wanting.
@@Zach-p4e6p fake doctor. He is a chiropractor. He is not medically licensed nor did he go to medical school nor did he pass any board exams.
@@Zach-p4e6p…except for the sound reflex. Her expression was evident that she noticed herself not responding.
Maybe some of this is volitional improvement, but I’d guess maybe 5-10%, low anyway. I wish he’d explain more about the tools so we could look them up.
as far as i understand it, this is just session 1 of multiple to train/stimulate the brain into using the correct reflex (or suppressing the reflex). so it's a temporary state in this video and would likely regress if the patient stopped treatment before it was fully resolved.
there's nothing wrong with the body, it's the brain getting confused and using the wrong set of reflexes. he's just reminding the brain to use the other 1. you just have to keep reminding it until the underlying problem goes away (like inflammation) or it rebuilds the pathway to the correct reflexes with all the stimulation
@@Zach-p4e6pit's involuntary so you can't just choose to not follow the reflex. it bypasses the part of your brain that controls your conscious actions, so the signal is sent out before you even know it's been triggered, much less stop it. the best you can do is desensitize a reflex so it's more difficult to trigger, which is how people learn to not flinch at things.
the only way this could be faked is if the patient didn't actually have the reflexes to begin with and is just pretending to have them. and would have to be a really good actor at that, because everything else points to this being a new patient (reserved body language, but not off put) that's at the center of attention. you can see the patient getting less reserved as time goes on: talking, making a joke, getting more comfortable around him/less "robotic" or stiff movements.
^ that stuff alone is difficult to fake, much less micro expressions and such
i mean, I'm not sure what the lazer is about since you don't have photoreceptors in the back of your head (temperature or something similar?) but sensory feedback would be reasonable to expect if you're trying to stimulate parts of the brain through the nerves. it's just a sign saying "hey, pay attention to me!" and waiting for the brain to catch the hint as to what you want it to do.
and he said, himself, that it's not an instant cure all. you have to work on it until your brain does it on it's own
What kind of doctor does this? Where do I find one ?
Chiropractor
Look up functional neurologist. This is training beyond chiropractic. MD’s and many in the medical field are learning this.
if you are offering online courses or training plz let us know the procedure to join them
Go to his website. He mentions in another video that is his training people.
How many days do you have to repeeat the treatment to have the permanent results?
I'm impressed!
Amazing!
Is this for real? With just light and heat how can you fix someone?
Seems like its a chiropractic neuro. Meaning fake doctor and not a real medically licensed doctor.
@@dodgek5270Wrong
It is functional neurology. Even some MD’s are learning functional medicine.
It is real. What it is is techniques to heal and teach the brain in real time with stimulus and feedback.
I’ve seen amazing, real results with it.
@@sexywarriorwomen you know it's a scam when they use "functional", "alternative" "complementary", "antecedent", "triggers", "mediators" as a descriptor. These words mean nothing but to be vague and confuse you. If these medicine actually worked they would just call them medicine and register it. They would just publish their studies and reports plainly and patent it. To get more profit like pharmaceutical companies does. They are alternative pharmaceutical medicine.
What medical school did Dr Josh graduate from?
McDonald's lmao
This is amazing… where can you find this??
Search for a functional neurologist.
I can’t believe this works in this day and age…
Wjere can I find this light he's using? If anyone knows please help!
Hello! Where do you buy this laser? Is this dr. Melillo method?
@@vadbenaklinika2825 www.iowainfinitylasers.com/
Did anyone figure out the brand of laser and vibration tool?
What kind of laser and vibrating tool is used in this video ??
Rezzimax and lz30 cold laser
@@mp9565 thank you
Does anyone do this in England?
Do you know anyone in the UK who does this?
How did I get here?
s/o the orthodox saint watching over this practice
Interesting
Anyone in India who is doing this? Please reply.
She’s beautiful & very patient
(ADHD me would be bouncing off the walls)
What is the Laser brand?
I would like to know as well…
I lf a person sees this test before having it done. It would subconsciously affect the results.
Yes which is why they don’t explain it to you. She has been before and agreed to be filmed. It does take multiple sessions to see permanent results.
In most cases except that in this one the patients have neurological issues that would prevent them from faking it. It is possible though in the format of this video that they faked it entirely which would require the young woman to not actually have brain trauma.
No it would not
That’s like saying the patellar knee reflex would be affected by knowing it was being elicited
Quackery and no need for the background swirling music
Maybe the laser pointer thing, and EXPLAINING what he’s doing might increase placebo effect, but everything else here looks like some of the stims I as an Autistic person have been doing since childhood to manually self-regulate my nervous system and until now I had NO IDEA what I was doing or why it might work!
I have seen remarkable results with it.
She kinda looks like Zero from Holes
Just making stuff up 😂
Am sorry hun, actually he is not. Doctors often test for the presence of these as babies move throughout their milestones. However, they don't always test to make sure they are not there after you pass these milestones.
@@keresco2717 he’s a chiropractor LMAO he is not a medical doctor
@@tyaoliver767Every human gets tested for primitive reflexes beginning at birth. Many people educated about humans and their anatomy and behavior know that. Time for some edumucation?
Chiropractors are doctors Einstein @@tyaoliver767
@@JillofAllTrades2 I’m a 4th year medical student. Adults don’t have primitive reflexes. I hope that was some good free edumacation for you.