Sir Alan (Tommy) Lascelles deals with Peter Townsend

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  • @barfanus2863
    @barfanus2863 4 роки тому +1690

    Could you imagine how quickly he would have resolved the Camilla situation

    • @P3891
      @P3891 4 роки тому +128

      that would've been awesome

    • @ri8255
      @ri8255 4 роки тому +290

      He would have never allowed that grotesque misalliance of Charles and Diana.

    • @pinkiealexander7832
      @pinkiealexander7832 4 роки тому +41

      Damn I wish he were alive, for Charles and Camilla

    • @RozitaVideo
      @RozitaVideo 3 роки тому +158

      I am imagining how Lascelles would handle Megxit.

    • @scribeasriel2857
      @scribeasriel2857 3 роки тому +43

      Imagine if he were King!

  • @kasimirdenhertog3516
    @kasimirdenhertog3516 4 роки тому +1177

    I learned Lascelles was a heavyweight of almost mythical proportions by the time this played out. A decorated WW1 soldier, he personally served George V, Edward VIII, George VI and then Elizabeth II. He had been in the thick of it for decades, so dealing with Townsend was a piece of cake.

    • @ollie-pn1ql
      @ollie-pn1ql 3 роки тому +98

      Imagine how easy Camilla would have been then😳

    • @mscott3918
      @mscott3918 3 роки тому +12

      He was also a very closeted homosexual.

    • @cg8397
      @cg8397 3 роки тому +63

      @@mscott3918 Tommy was married to Joan Frances Vere Thesiger from 1920 until her death in 1971. They had 3 children together. But the series doesn't show it.

    • @SouL1Jacker
      @SouL1Jacker 3 роки тому +27

      Townsend was a war hero, a fighter ace. In reality compared man to man, Tommy was nothing in comparison.

    • @aikonoklas
      @aikonoklas 3 роки тому +9

      @@mscott3918 as were many great men.

  • @santino1196
    @santino1196 3 роки тому +738

    “Car, Townsend...tick, tick, tick”
    You could feel the influence, control, and authority - all in one line.

    • @sallywhite7678
      @sallywhite7678 3 роки тому +4

      What does this sentence mean? I haven’t been able to watch the series, only these short clips on YT. Thanks!

    • @santino1196
      @santino1196 3 роки тому +31

      @@sallywhite7678, it means the car is ready for Townsend.

    • @MrAhme63
      @MrAhme63 3 роки тому +12

      @@santino1196 i honestly thought it was a threat of putting a pipe bomb in his glovebox

    • @corlyssd
      @corlyssd 3 роки тому +7

      I know. It's one of my favorite scenes from the entire series. The flinty Lascelles with the pretty boy Townsend, one of the greatest juxtapositions of all time.

    • @Roheryn100
      @Roheryn100 2 роки тому +7

      @@corlyssd Townsend was no mere pretty boy. How was YOUR war service ?

  • @mgg5418
    @mgg5418 4 роки тому +779

    He is so dry he could sponge clean the Atlantic 😂 What a great performance!!!

    • @CiceroLounge
      @CiceroLounge  4 роки тому +16

      Sir Alan does appear that way. Love the expression btw. :)

    • @DaisyLee1963
      @DaisyLee1963 4 роки тому +7

      Yes. I love his short sentences that speak volumes.

    • @CrayCray9
      @CrayCray9 4 роки тому

      😂😂😂

    • @mgg5418
      @mgg5418 3 роки тому +2

      @Halli Day Well of course it is, what I love about it is not that it's nice, it's that it's so well played. A deliciously acted villain is much more enjoyable than a mildly interesting nice person. Doesn't mean I agree with it ;-)

    • @padraigflanagan4406
      @padraigflanagan4406 3 роки тому +2

      Tommy you're the man

  • @austin_hockey
    @austin_hockey 3 роки тому +289

    Every scene that Tommy was in, he is in complete control. Pip Torrens is a great actor!

  • @keepallyweird
    @keepallyweird 4 роки тому +437

    Why am I so in love with this Tommy lad? I am utterly attracted to every inch of stiffness and refinement.

    • @saa82vik
      @saa82vik 4 роки тому +52

      Ally Santos I love him too. The ultimate courtier masterfully displayed here by pip torrens. I love how he steadfastly defends the Crown, to many a faults of course. I also love the subtle banter between him and the Queen Mother, which demonstrated many a times to know how to win battles at court. Superb.

    • @timesfire
      @timesfire 4 роки тому +6

      *cough* so to speak...

    • @Jeffery-Vanity-Blofield
      @Jeffery-Vanity-Blofield 4 роки тому +17

      Because although he is reserved and a bit of arse at times. He breathes out confidence, assurance of himself and controll. As a women whether you admit it or not, you are attracted to that part of him. This leaves you confused but it's not your fault. It's how you are wired.

    • @SuperRobertoClemente
      @SuperRobertoClemente 4 роки тому +2

      @@Jeffery-Vanity-Blofield Hey Shaba, 1950 wants its bullshit back.

    • @SuperRobertoClemente
      @SuperRobertoClemente 4 роки тому

      He's a personification of control and lack of freedom, so in that way he's a Dom avatar. The's show's main drama, over and over again, is what the royals FEEL versus what they're (not) allowed to DO. They have everything we could ever want, except what they actually want. Tommy is the pivot-- the God-like voice who says no. Personally I find him loathsome.

  • @sidbid1590
    @sidbid1590 4 роки тому +144

    Tommy looked angry after Peter refered to Margaret as the woman he loves. He must have reminded him of the Duke of Windsor.

    • @rickheady2298
      @rickheady2298 3 роки тому +2

      Tommy is just a secretary a looser thought he could boss prince Phillip around when Phillip was above him

    • @kenoliver8913
      @kenoliver8913 2 роки тому +2

      You're right about the reminder of Duke of Windsor. It's one of the many subtleties in the screenplay.

  • @christianzafiroglu6705
    @christianzafiroglu6705 2 роки тому +103

    I know we all love watching Tommy and all, but on an unrelated note, the casting in this show is exquisite. The looks, the mannerisms of the actual people are captured perfectly.
    I know I’m not alone in looking these people up online and seeing photos and reading up on them to find out if they get it right.

    • @marywenzel3199
      @marywenzel3199 Рік тому +4

      Actually I think Ben Miles was miscast as Peter Townsend. He first came to my attention in “Zen” and I thought he was a very attractive silver fox in that series. But he was nearly 20 years older than PT, who was in his late 30s. I don’t think dying his hair a heavy black succeeded in making Miles look younger; quite the opposite. He looks as old as Jared Harris playing Margaret’s father and I don’t think the dynamic gels with the 20-something Vanessa Kirby. The real Peter Townsend was matinee handsome, and the attraction was understandable. However, the gap with Margaret was nearly 20 years. The princess was barely out of her teens. The fact that she’d known Peter as a member of her father’s staff since she was 13 or 14 years old makes the romance more than a little predatory on Townsend’s part. Of course Margaret was Infatuated with this dashing homme du monde who was close to her father and in her orbit every day. The princesses were sheltered to the extreme and had no opportunity to meet age-appropriate boys who were suitable. Elizabeth got fixated on her dashing blond cousin when she was only 13, but at least Philip was only five years older, not 18 years older and a divorced father of two. What was Peter playing at, making time with the teenage daughter of his employer- An emotionally fragile girl who had just lost her father and who had daddy issues? Margaret was beautiful and lively, but she was almost a child. Of course she loved Peter, or thought she did, because he was practically the only man she knew and became the repository for all her schoolgirl fantasies. For his part, she was attractive because she was forbidden fruit, Who just happened to be second in line for the British throne. His motives seem to have been less than pure. After Margaret had waited for him for several years and was past 25, the couple had to break up. Swiftly Townsend replaced Margaret with a 19-year-old Belgian girl, so he liked them young. I know princess Margaret remained fixated on Townsend for the rest of her life, and she chose dreadfully on the rebound. But I don’t honestly think that a marriage between her and Townsend would’ve worked in the end. But because it never took place, both parties could blame their failed futures on being thwarted in love. It was highly romanticized in the press at the time, but if we look at their relationship dispassionately, it’s more than a little gross.

  • @sebastiangrumman8507
    @sebastiangrumman8507 4 роки тому +393

    In reality, Townsend dodged a bullet not marrying her.

    • @Eddy_Kusanagi
      @Eddy_Kusanagi 4 роки тому +6

      Dude please explain, I love UK history

    • @estherqin3080
      @estherqin3080 4 роки тому +50

      @@Eddy_Kusanagi theyre from the royal family and if elizabeth allowed them peter and margaret to marry then it wouldve breached rules such as marrying a divorcee. during elizabeth's coronation, she made oaths and stuff so if she allowed them to marry then it wouldve been a scandal and very risky. if they did end up marrying, then margaret would be stripped of royalty and lose her income

    • @londoncalling151
      @londoncalling151 4 роки тому +55

      @@Eddy_Kusanagi She turned out to be very difficult as a wife and friend.

    • @sks17873
      @sks17873 4 роки тому +99

      London Calling I feel like most of her reputation was formed after she split with Peter. After she became depressed and was often trying to do anything that would patch up the hole she felt.

    • @londoncalling151
      @londoncalling151 4 роки тому +15

      @@sks17873 At the end not even her high-society acolytes could put up with her shenanigans, which in large part were the results of the substance-abuse addled mind typical of anyone in life who stays too long at the party. Oddly enough, given her previous outbursts, her one mainstay at the end was an Irish horsetrainer, Ned Ryan, who was nicknamed "The Sherpa" because of his social-climbing abilities. Horsey people provided a commonsensical social world for her sister, and at the end Margaret seems to have benefited a bit from that.

  • @peterdavy6110
    @peterdavy6110 3 роки тому +105

    Pip Torrens is probably the most under-rated actor in the UK. Never seen that man put it a dud performance ever.

    • @mothygryphon9111
      @mothygryphon9111 2 роки тому +1

      He's great as George's uncle in Poldark. Same kind of asshole but money, not the crown, is his idol.

    • @raymeester7883
      @raymeester7883 2 роки тому +1

      You're probably right.

    • @bayareaartist999
      @bayareaartist999 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/smmAuiJ-lxY/v-deo.html

  • @meeranaam
    @meeranaam 3 роки тому +87

    Tommy was cold blooded! I love the scenes with Pip Torrens….his voice, demeanor, and no bullshit attitude are brilliant

    • @madeleinegrayson8372
      @madeleinegrayson8372 8 місяців тому +1

      He was loyal to the 4 monarchs he served. He just did his job exceptionally well.

  • @fredererpower
    @fredererpower 3 роки тому +37

    0:06 Peter: I understand you’re only trying to do your job.
    Tommy: -_-

  • @jamilor
    @jamilor 4 роки тому +127

    Tommy is by far my favourite character in the show.

  • @lordalessan
    @lordalessan 4 роки тому +148

    My god, if only he was around to send Camilla far far away.

    • @lizh4933
      @lizh4933 3 роки тому +4

      Or Smegma.

    • @Roheryn100
      @Roheryn100 2 роки тому +3

      Or Diana after Squidgygate.

    • @calistafalcontail
      @calistafalcontail 4 місяці тому

      Camilla and Charles were destined to be...they would have married one day either way. Megnuts and Harry are the real issue today. Camilla and Charles have respect and Camilla never bi*ched against the RF and works her elderly butt of now. That they werent allowed to get married in the first place was the start of the drama and then everyone involved made it worse. None of them did everything right.

  • @cathyschaffter5843
    @cathyschaffter5843 2 роки тому +28

    Pip Torrens who plays Lascelles is so intimidating and hard in this role that I wondered what he was like as a person. Video interviews show him to be generous in praise for others, such as the writers of "The Crown", which helps explain his illustrious career. I love every minute that he's on screen in that series!

  • @youraccountingprofessor5013
    @youraccountingprofessor5013 Рік тому +7

    Notice the lighting of the scene. Townsend cast in light, the light of innocence and truth. Lascelles, whom I admire and respect immensely, cast in shadowy darkness, malevolent and sinister. What a wonderful touch of directorial brilliance.

  • @dgrmn12345
    @dgrmn12345 3 роки тому +90

    Tommy Lascelles to the Windsors is like Tywin Lannisters to the Targaryens. Cold, calculating, frank, laconic, effective, and of course lets not forget, unflatteringly scary to the point that both men's stern gaze sucks the entire air out of a room.
    They are the best advisors and the best of kings despite never wearing or ever wanting to wear a crown.

    • @Legollas-1
      @Legollas-1 3 роки тому +2

      more like peter baelish

    • @dgrmn12345
      @dgrmn12345 3 роки тому +10

      @@Legollas-1 Baelish is a small man who casts a big shadow. No one would notice him when he enters the room. Not at all like Lascelles.

    • @timesfire
      @timesfire 2 роки тому +1

      Tommy Lascelles was Elizabeth the 2nd’s Sir Francis Walsingham. 😂

    • @Gunleaver
      @Gunleaver 2 роки тому

      You know he had zero political function or power? He's a PR man with an exaggerated sense of his importance due to the exaggerated importance of the family he works for. His job is to manage the servants for a superfluous person with whom the ACTUAL political leaders had to set aside times for meetings and otherwise interfere with their actual running of the country. Tywin and Petyr might be scumbags and bad political actors who brought disaster to Westeros, but at least they served real functions.

    • @kenoliver8913
      @kenoliver8913 2 роки тому +2

      In fact, a Thomas Cromwell. A good summary of the character as portrayed.

  • @judasmoses5915
    @judasmoses5915 4 роки тому +152

    Car Townsend 😂

    • @PostWarKids
      @PostWarKids 4 роки тому +1

      what does this mean?

    • @wolfgangtiefbrunner8412
      @wolfgangtiefbrunner8412 4 роки тому +13

      Tic, tic, tic.

    • @TomBatemanRT85
      @TomBatemanRT85 4 роки тому +18

      @@PostWarKids he's simply letting him know that the car is waiting for him. "Car, Townsend... waiting... tick, tick, tick"

    • @gygispavo
      @gygispavo 4 роки тому

      @@PostWarKids Possibly a Car Bomb with a clock, Tic,Tic,Tic

  • @hutch1197
    @hutch1197 Рік тому +12

    The staging of this scene is so remarkable. The army of shadowed men looming over the table, with Tommy in the center. The lighting of Peter as if he's a criminal in a police interrogation room. Just perfection.

  • @janmichaelnunez429
    @janmichaelnunez429 2 роки тому +21

    If i were a modern royalty, i would have loved tommy lascelle to be part of the royal house as well. He is essentially the integrity of the crown, unbending and abides by the rules even if era an times changes. He's one of those that deserves eternal life just to preserve the integrity of the crown

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 9 місяців тому

      its a doubled edge sword a stick that is unwilling to bend might find it self breaking apart time changes and rules and morals also change if everyone in the royal family is like tommy lascelle its almost a garunteed that the royal family will find its way out lets not forget the only difference the tsar and british royalty is that one is an absolute monarchy that refuse to share and use direct and hard lever of power to shape national policy somtime against the people will while another does not get involve directly or have any real significant power and more like a gurdian of the nation against rogue polititian.

  • @coldclearblue6350
    @coldclearblue6350 3 роки тому +41

    He was one of my fave characters, he was always on the righteous side of life and didnt show any biases. He’s loyalty wasnt on people but on what was right. When he replaced charteris after elizabeth was crowned i wan’t a fan yet but when he gave the right advises to the queen, i was like wooow, it’s like he basically ran the country for a while there.

  • @philipkinga7123
    @philipkinga7123 3 роки тому +17

    Everytime Tommy showed up you knew stuff was about to happen.

  • @timesfire
    @timesfire 2 роки тому +54

    That slight delay before the last “tick” enunciated with such smug venom… just absolute gold. 😂

  • @DaisyLee1963
    @DaisyLee1963 4 роки тому +93

    Tommy's a badass. I respect him.

  • @TreeFrogWillow
    @TreeFrogWillow 11 місяців тому +2

    The casting was absolutely spot on . Every character has a rich quality in this series and very believable

  • @elnuisance
    @elnuisance 3 роки тому +17

    Tommy Lascelles is most favourite character from the show

  • @maureenmoran5465
    @maureenmoran5465 10 місяців тому +2

    Could you imagine Tommy dealing with the monticito duo 😂😂😂

  • @serendipity2018
    @serendipity2018 2 роки тому +17

    Torrens is such an incredible actor!

  • @yskwong
    @yskwong 2 роки тому +4

    Car, Townsend ... Waiting ... tick, tick, tick.
    Instant classic. I'm trying to find a proper situation where I could use this to someone I know.
    Perhaps ...
    Car, Mom/Dad ... Waiting ... Tick, tick, tick.
    LMFAO!

  • @victoriaaguilar266
    @victoriaaguilar266 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent performance.

  • @giovannibonetto
    @giovannibonetto 3 роки тому +8

    Tommy is a thermonuclear fist in a velvet glove

  • @jonathanaugustin647
    @jonathanaugustin647 3 роки тому +16

    Pip Torrens knocked this performance out of the park!!!

  • @cherylannemason
    @cherylannemason 2 роки тому +12

    Lascelles comes across as a bit of Myrcroft Holmes--that guy behind the scenes who holds all the strings, knows all the secrets, and takes no bs from anyone.

  • @hotdamndan9892
    @hotdamndan9892 3 роки тому +33

    The Crown was powerful, but Sir Tommy Lascelles possess a different kind of power that he can literally pull strings.

    • @madeleinegrayson8372
      @madeleinegrayson8372 8 місяців тому

      He serves the sovereign and whatever he said or did, it was at their request or with their blessing.

  • @anarchsnark
    @anarchsnark 3 роки тому +160

    Let's be real, Peter has no business dating someone 16 years his junior. Then he trades her in for someone even younger.

    • @cg8397
      @cg8397 3 роки тому +21

      Margaret was living with her mother after her father died, the Queen Mother should've put her foot down and stopped the affair from taking place.

    • @emilykozak7249
      @emilykozak7249 3 роки тому +7

      Tell that Prince Charles....

    • @m.e.d.7997
      @m.e.d.7997 3 роки тому +13

      Margaret loved him.Why does age matter??

    • @randomobserver8168
      @randomobserver8168 3 роки тому +7

      23/39 wasn't that unusual- maybe pushing it just a bit for the era. But it was the divorced part that provided the official, and probably to a degree substantive, problem, in keeping with the formal mores of the day. Probably they also considered Townsend a bit of a cad and Margaret a bit of a flake, the latter to be protected from the former. In retrospect, she was a vamp in final training, so maybe it was good to keep them apart but not quite for the reason of protecting her.

    • @m.e.d.7997
      @m.e.d.7997 3 роки тому +13

      ​@@randomobserver8168 And Tony was better??? Strongly disagree with your assessment. Peter worked for Margaret's father and did have a history with the family. Your statement is idiotic. Peter and Margaret loved each other and waited years for each other. He was a decent man.

  • @michaelwong6050
    @michaelwong6050 3 роки тому +27

    Pip Torrens would be perfect as Alfred Pennyworth in any future DC movies.

    • @XKT035
      @XKT035 Рік тому

      Alfred Pennyworth did work at Buckingham Palace

  • @manugamer9984
    @manugamer9984 Рік тому +1

    Oh my god, if I were there I would’ve buried myself... eye contact alone with such a gigantic personality would’ve burned anyone alive

  • @richardmahoney3916
    @richardmahoney3916 3 роки тому +13

    Lascelles love this guy he had no time for bullshit! He told it how it was one of my favourite characters on the crown 😂

  • @StevenTorrey
    @StevenTorrey 4 роки тому +27

    I don't know if this break-up with Townsend caused Margaret's downfall. She fell into excessive drinking, smoking, and pill-abuse--none of which helped her. She died at age 71 from this kind of physical abuse to her body.

    • @iangraham6887
      @iangraham6887 4 роки тому +13

      it most definitely contributed as she was already fragile and jealous of not being the queen. for as much alcohol and drugs plus the smoking she did its surprising she made it to 71. her father George VI was a heavy smoker like her and he only lived to his early 50s.

    • @leobuscaglia5576
      @leobuscaglia5576 3 роки тому +1

      @@iangraham6887 Women generally live longer than men so it makes sense that she outlived her father inspite of her hedonistic lifestyle.

    • @iangraham6887
      @iangraham6887 3 роки тому +4

      @@leobuscaglia5576 I was only doing the comparison to her father to show how her lifestyle, much like her father’s lead to a shortened lifespan. look at her sister the queen, she’s 95 and still going strong, makes you wonder how long she might’ve lived without the smoking, alcohol and drugs.

    • @abshaar13
      @abshaar13 2 роки тому +1

      She was a chain smoker from the age of 15. And if she loved Peter so much she would have give up her royal privileges.
      Sorry if I made mistakes, I'm not an English person.

  • @ReaverLordTonus
    @ReaverLordTonus 3 роки тому +21

    Considering how much more of a mess Margaret's next relationship ended up, you think Lascelles and the Queen regretted this? At least he was a reputable and well respected officer.

    • @athenastewart9167
      @athenastewart9167 2 роки тому +4

      Not so respected after he stepped out on his wife and children, though.
      Margaret was a bit of a loose cannon, tbh. She didn't have anything to do, which was the real mistake they made. There just wasn't the machinery in place to give her a meaningful role. Plus, the Church of England had some pretty stiff rules in place about the remarriage of divorced people. With royals, they also had to contend with laws governing who they could marry. It put Elizabeth in an impossible position as titular head of the church. All this Townsend would have known, too, which makes his actions in this even more reprehensible. His unforgivable sin in Tommy's eyes was making trouble for the Crown.

    • @lynne709
      @lynne709 2 роки тому +3

      The issue wasn’t with Peter personally. The issue was the Queen was fairly new to the role and a marriage between Peter and Princess Margaret would required her to do battle with Parliament and the Church. This wasn’t even twenty years after the abdication. The public needed to be assured that they weren’t getting another monarch that played by her own rules.

    • @madeleinegrayson8372
      @madeleinegrayson8372 8 місяців тому

      Margaret was free to marry Peter as a private citizen.
      She chose her title and tiaras over him.
      Lascelles served 4 monarchs as private secretary. The policy he is enforcing here was not of his making. He's doing his job, exceptionally well.

  • @katelewis536
    @katelewis536 2 роки тому +10

    Tommy is always just so funny. “Car. Waiting. ‘

  • @jeffreypautu4276
    @jeffreypautu4276 2 роки тому +3

    Tommy is a BEAST

  • @prernasharma1307
    @prernasharma1307 3 роки тому +6

    I just love his authoritative nature

  • @timesfire
    @timesfire 3 роки тому +3

    “Car, Townshend. Waiting. Tick… tick… … tick.” 😂😂😂 the man was a legend.

  • @worrywart1311
    @worrywart1311 Рік тому +1

    At the time the key issue was the divorce aspect. The monarch is the" Defender of the Faith and Supreme Governor of the Church of England". In those circumstances it was simply not possible for the monarch's sister to marry Townsend or otherwise liaise with him. And yes, Royal standards have dropped since then and the public has largely accepted that.

    • @dalek3086
      @dalek3086 10 місяців тому

      bs - Henry 8th his divorced wives, executed his wives - first head of the Church of England - royal standards -- give me a break - oh ! and stole lands , murdered monks....

    • @madeleinegrayson8372
      @madeleinegrayson8372 8 місяців тому

      ​@@dalek3086and if you do not see why that is precisely the reason they were being cautious and going by the book, you're obtuse.

  • @aelaeus
    @aelaeus 2 роки тому +3

    He referred to him as Peter when correcting him, but as TownsEND when showing him the door.

  • @walterceyssens8371
    @walterceyssens8371 3 роки тому +9

    "Car, Townsend... Waiting... Tick, tick, tíck'. Words of a killer :O

    • @Hugomad2
      @Hugomad2 2 роки тому

      Ahahah he is the best

  • @laraschauble
    @laraschauble 2 роки тому +3

    I just looked up the REAL Alan "Tommy" Lascelles....holy shit the casting for him in The Crown was spot on....just like Charles Dance was cast as Lord Mountbatten on the show 🙂

  • @lordrobert12
    @lordrobert12 3 роки тому +17

    Tommy is so bloody great!! He comes across as so stern and not very nice but I think this is because he was so devoted to his job to protect the queen which is in and of itself admirable!!🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧❤️❤️❤️

    • @kenoliver8913
      @kenoliver8913 2 роки тому

      Not to protect the queen but the monarchy - a big difference. He'd not have hesitated to destroy Elizabeth if that is what it took to save the institution. Tommy never loved or admired any person - he's actually portrayed as a classic psychopath.

  • @sofiabutera
    @sofiabutera 3 роки тому +13

    Peter Townsend is a beatiful actor🤤

  • @Noutchka
    @Noutchka 2 роки тому +4

    Tommy Lascelles is such a legend. His diary is amazing.

  • @mohammedshabbirahmed4391
    @mohammedshabbirahmed4391 2 роки тому +2

    We need more tommy

  • @michaelwhittaker5432
    @michaelwhittaker5432 2 роки тому +5

    History has been so unkind on this man he cared above all for the Royal Family and Great Britain

  • @terrystephens1102
    @terrystephens1102 3 роки тому +24

    Tommy had ice water running through his veins 😵

    • @cg8397
      @cg8397 3 роки тому +5

      His paternal grandfather was an Earl and his maternal grandfather was a Baron. His first cousin was married to Princess Mary (sister of Edward VIII and George VI). He was also a veteran of World War I.

  • @isobelbauch9842
    @isobelbauch9842 11 місяців тому +1

    The establishment was scared of another Edward and Wallis problem. History repeating.

  • @thatguyfromscranton9791
    @thatguyfromscranton9791 4 роки тому +6

    Tommy is dad. Marge, Petsey, "David Duke" Windsor are the children

  • @egb50000
    @egb50000 3 роки тому +11

    The four badass Tommy’s of all-time: the Rugrat, GTA, the Green Power Ranger, and last but not least, The Crown.

  • @CrayCray9
    @CrayCray9 4 роки тому +6

    Pip Torrens, fn Pip Torrens!!! BRILLIANT

  • @hothotheat3000
    @hothotheat3000 4 роки тому +8

    Oh Peter, you tried it🤣

  • @afrozeahmed6515
    @afrozeahmed6515 3 роки тому +3

    I feel so sorry for Townsend here-he was soooo sure he would be her husband,how much trust he had.All of them were ridiculously let down.Gosh imagine the suffering and for what?Now divorce is so commonplace,the Queen consort is a divorcee.The King himself is one as well!Margerets sacrifice is for naught.She was born in the wrong time😭and She and Townsend paid the ultimate price

    • @zuzanka1981
      @zuzanka1981 3 роки тому +3

      The last time I looked the Queen was still alive. So please don't bury her pre-maturely. It's incredibly rude.

  • @altair227
    @altair227 3 роки тому +11

    I liked peter he was the star of the show even when he gets a short camera time haha

  • @BatHunterofDevon
    @BatHunterofDevon 2 роки тому +2

    Can someone explain this to me:
    Elizabeth made a promise to her sister Margaret that she would at least allow her and Townsend about 48 hours to see each other before he would be posted to Brussels. So what made her change her mind? What made her decide to break her promise to her sister?

    • @madeleinegrayson8372
      @madeleinegrayson8372 8 місяців тому

      She never had the authority. Her advisors told her that nonsense hoping that young Margert would move on to someone else during the 2 years, especially with Peter in Belgium.
      Keep in mind that Margaret was always free to marry Peter, as a commoner. She chose her tiaras and title over him.

  • @tlpricescope7772
    @tlpricescope7772 2 роки тому +2

    I would love to see how he dealt with Harry.

  • @JimGlasgow-e5o
    @JimGlasgow-e5o 7 місяців тому +1

    Gosh we need his ilk. Now.

  • @roberts6035
    @roberts6035 4 роки тому +9

    This clip doesn't show a "well meaning" Bon Voyage bij Tommy to Peter. It made me laugh.

  • @stevemccann4166
    @stevemccann4166 2 роки тому +2

    Lascalles was a sort of modern day Sir Francis Walsingham who served the first Elizabeth.

    • @CiceroLounge
      @CiceroLounge  2 роки тому

      Good comparison 👏

    • @madeleinegrayson8372
      @madeleinegrayson8372 8 місяців тому +1

      Yes, but Lascelles served 4 monarchs. He was remarkable. Not that Walsingham wasn't too, just different men.

  • @mcc271
    @mcc271 4 роки тому +6

    Tommy complete nail it

  • @uygaryavuz2112
    @uygaryavuz2112 3 роки тому +2

    “Car, Townsend...
    Waiting...”

    • @LordZontar
      @LordZontar 3 роки тому +1

      "Tick... tick... Tick."

  • @larryrobinson6914
    @larryrobinson6914 2 роки тому

    Great scene by both guys

  • @TheMrgoodmanners
    @TheMrgoodmanners 3 роки тому +1

    "There is a momentum for us". Wow just wow. Well I got my next pick up line 😜😜😜

  • @valeriesmith5780
    @valeriesmith5780 4 роки тому +6

    I believe that should read 'immediately'.

  • @roblancs
    @roblancs 3 роки тому +2

    I’ve only just realised how skeletal his face is (Townsend)

  • @tapdralliag123
    @tapdralliag123 3 роки тому +1

    Mrs Bennet, Miss Bennet, Miss Bennet and Missss Bennet ... P&P 2005

  • @tommytimp
    @tommytimp 3 роки тому +4

    But could he have handled Keith Moon?

  • @Cybermat47
    @Cybermat47 3 роки тому +8

    Townsend: [is a war hero who loves a woman]
    Lascelles: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  • @novemberalpha6023
    @novemberalpha6023 Рік тому +1

    Lascelles sends Townsend out of the town.

  • @YeoYeo32
    @YeoYeo32 2 роки тому

    Imagine how Lascelles would have felt watching the Charles and Diana thing play out in the 90s. He died a couple of weeks after they got married so he missed all of that

  • @지구인-h3c
    @지구인-h3c 4 роки тому +9

    He was better than the guy later married her. I wonder why they didn't oppose then.

    • @iangraham6887
      @iangraham6887 4 роки тому +2

      Townsend was already divorced by the time that margaret wanted to marry him and divorce in the english church was frowned upon to the point where it was seen as almost an illegal act. townsend being divorced and wanting to marry a member of the queen's family was seen as even worse as the queen is seen as the head of the church. laws that forbade royal marriage to a divorcee was what kept them apart and in fact was a major factor in the abdication of Edward VIII the uncle of elizabeth and king before her father. Tony was single and not divorced and at that point they seemed truly in love. as marriage was seen as a permanent construct, they wouldve been expected to stay married and learn to live and love each other. so the marriage was permitted within the law and the social norm of royalty at that point.

  • @devilpupbear09
    @devilpupbear09 3 роки тому +1

    I have altered the deal, pray I do not alter it any further.

  • @petekd.celebi6681
    @petekd.celebi6681 3 роки тому +1

    Sir Alan is super cool

    • @madeleinegrayson8372
      @madeleinegrayson8372 8 місяців тому

      He really was. Reading his diary and wow, what an interesting man.

  • @caltom1427
    @caltom1427 3 роки тому +2

    Tommy is the man.

  • @glenbolderson9279
    @glenbolderson9279 3 роки тому +2

    You know Peter Townsend was a Battle of Britain fighter ace...I wonder what mr royal bureaucrat was doing then? SOBs should have called him sir.

    • @LordZontar
      @LordZontar 3 роки тому +4

      Lascelles was a veteran of World War I and awarded the Military Cross for his combat service in France.

    • @glenbolderson9279
      @glenbolderson9279 3 роки тому +1

      Yes point taken...its the way the talked to him that put me off...oh well.

    • @madeleinegrayson8372
      @madeleinegrayson8372 8 місяців тому

      Tommy fought in both wars, and served 4 monarchs.
      Does that clear things up for you??

    • @glenbolderson9279
      @glenbolderson9279 8 місяців тому

      See my earlier reply.

  • @TXPAScot
    @TXPAScot 2 роки тому +1

    Oh... THAT Pete Townsend...

  • @df446
    @df446 4 роки тому +3

    480p?

  • @XKT035
    @XKT035 Рік тому

    rather like Mike Ehrmantraut telling Walter White "...you are a time bomb, tick, tick, ticking. And I have no intention of being around for the boom."

  • @cherrylove34
    @cherrylove34 2 роки тому +2

    I’m sure some people hate him, man there were scenes I hated him too but there is no question that Tommy was fiercely loyal to the crown, he wasn’t loyal to people but to the institution they represented. And he did a damn good job.

    • @madeleinegrayson8372
      @madeleinegrayson8372 8 місяців тому +1

      He was very loyal to people. He and Elizabeth's father were extremely close, and he was a loving husband and father. His close friends also remained so all his life.

  • @acm1137
    @acm1137 2 роки тому

    Outraged he called him "Tommy."

  • @Driimweever
    @Driimweever Рік тому +2

    I bet this Peter Townsend can’t even play guitar.

  • @raymyhill2277
    @raymyhill2277 3 роки тому +1

    He never went to Brussels he joined The Who.

  • @tangerinefizz11
    @tangerinefizz11 3 роки тому +1

    I wonder how things would have turned out had Margaret and Townsend married.

    • @madeleinegrayson8372
      @madeleinegrayson8372 8 місяців тому

      She had the option to marry him as a private citizen.
      She chose her title and tiaras.

  • @tomwotton9
    @tomwotton9 3 роки тому

    I didn’t understand the end bit.

  • @vaanipapadakis2226
    @vaanipapadakis2226 3 роки тому +1

    Townsend was a creep. He had Margaret wrapped around his finger.

  • @adrianmanship2546
    @adrianmanship2546 Рік тому

    I never knew that he was in the RAF before joining The Who

  • @QDomar
    @QDomar 4 роки тому +26

    So sad and unfair.

    • @CiceroLounge
      @CiceroLounge  4 роки тому +1

      It's a sad thing about how the romance never did fruition.

    • @jimmy2k4o
      @jimmy2k4o 4 роки тому +33

      Though he did call the Queen “lilybet”
      He was becoming more arrogant every second.

    • @missyadams
      @missyadams 4 роки тому +7

      @@jimmy2k4o it was probably for drama purposes, all I've read about Townsend was that he was cautious and respectful. And he hated the way the media went on about them and following him and Princess Margaret around.

  • @hailgerald2060
    @hailgerald2060 3 роки тому

    Tommy is strong af

  • @Starscreamf15
    @Starscreamf15 5 місяців тому

    I so wish Lascelles would have been around for Charles and Diana and the 3rd member of the marriage, Camilla. And just imagine what he'd have done the first 2 seconds he laid eyes on magen 🤣🤣🤣 Harry would never have known what hit him and his relationship.

  • @daviniarobbins9298
    @daviniarobbins9298 3 роки тому

    I thought at first Pete Townsend as in the music artist/manager. Funny how minds think isn't it?

  • @Hugomad2
    @Hugomad2 2 роки тому +1

    Tommy was the one running that palace l

    • @madeleinegrayson8372
      @madeleinegrayson8372 8 місяців тому

      He entered into that role so reluctantly too. He'd served under Edward for 9 long years, hated him with a passion, left, was asked to come back by the King whom Tommy liked so he did...2 months later the King died and he was back working for Edward again! Miserable, and watched him assemble an entourage of Nazis and creeps, so much so that Tommy was relieved when he abdicated. He and Bertie were very close from then on. He cared so much about the institution of the monarchy, but aside from Edward, he cared for the family as well.

  • @JT-zh1oz
    @JT-zh1oz 2 роки тому

    I don’t understand - what was mean by the tic tic tic ?

    • @CiceroLounge
      @CiceroLounge  2 роки тому +1

      I subtle hint for him to get going, a polite 'bugger off' i expect! 😉

    • @madeleinegrayson8372
      @madeleinegrayson8372 8 місяців тому

      Clock is ticking, time's a wasting, so get moving. They were rushing him out of the country at top speed.

  • @cathybradley9067
    @cathybradley9067 3 роки тому

    Peetah. The best scene in series 😜