You know what is funny? Arteta after the game saying they lost because they do not have a 30-40 goal a season striker... guess who signed Jesus and Havertz for a combined almost 130m euros and gave them the two biggest salaries at the club by far?
I’m not an Arsenal fan but what’s crazy to me is how the team still needs players even after all the money Arteta has spent. You still need a striker, winger, fullback, and a midfielder or two. That’s insane considering Arteta’s already done like £600m. The starting 11 should have been completed by now.
To be fair to Kenny he called it before the game talking to Dan Potts....'it's not a mental block they're suffering from, they're just not as good as we think' Bayerns front 5 are just better than ours and that's just an observable fact.
I just did my analysis of Arsenal the last 5 years before Arteta and the 5 years after appointing him. Total games before his appointment =190 games, total points=354, goals scored=360, goals conceded= 218, goal difference= 142. Total games after his appointment =184 games, total points=341, goals scored=336, goals conceded= 210, goal difference= 126. Now lets looks at points per game Before appointment Total points/game=1.863, goals scored/game=1.894, goals conceded/game=1.147, goal difference/ game=0.747 After appointment Total points/game=1.853, goals scored/game=1.826, goals conceded/game=1.141, goal difference/ game=0.684 NET SPEND Before arteta = $ 337 million After appointing Arteta= $ 550 million Trophies Before Arteta = 2 FA cup, 3 community shield, although i wont use community shield in my calculations of netspend/trophy After appointing Arteta = 1 FA cup, 2 community shield, although i wont use community shield in my calculations of netspend/trophy Net spend/ trophy Before arteta = $ 169 million/trophy After appointing Arteta= $ 550 million/ trophy So its fair to say Arsenal were way better off the last 5 years before appointing Arteta than the years under Arteta. Thats what statistics show
Anyone ready to admit that in fact these players have all stagnated as long as Arteta has been here. Saka could actually take players on when Emery brought him through, Eddie and martinelli used to finish 5 years ago. Why can't no1 see this??????????????
Society is so brainwashed and conformist. These days it's too hard to have original and truthful opinions based on reality. That mindset infects every aspect of life, including football.
I had a debate last night with a delusional fan who said “QF of the CL & even if we finish 3rd that’s progress, & I’m not Arteta out as long as I see progress” Wow So 5th, 2nd & then 3rd is progress now?
Not an Arsenal fan but I will say Arsenal have ended up in a weird spot. It's basically back to the Wenger days, Arteta is doing well but everytime I see someone back them to win the league or Champions League I just can't see it happenning. In some ways it's worse to constantly be in the mix but not winning than it is to just be dogshit.
What has Elneny, Nkehtia, Cedric done to get contract extension on what merit can someone tell me. We're not serious at this club. That's not scapegoating Arteta can't handle the pressure and it trickle down to the players
Bayern View if you actually watch your games you should be thankful that Dier is at the club, because he is defensively way more solid than Upamecano who had already a horror show of a performance last year against city, and Kim Min Jae who left his form back in Korea.
As a United fan since '86, watching what has happened at my club, let me tell you... Do not let this slide or keep buying the club PR. Demand widespread change or the rot gets too deep to cut out, and it becomes the culture of the club. You're still suffering from the Wenger "4th place is as good as a trophy" statement which put standards into the dirt at your club, and always gave the players somewhere to hide. Your problem with Arteta is that he booted out all the experienced players because he's insecure about winning nothing as a manager, and so he only wants kids who won't question him. Get a proper coach who can work with top players and demand excellence. Forget style of play, get a manager who can install some steel, grit and a winning mentality even if that's Simeone, Conte, Jose etc to sh*thouse you to a title. At United we had Giggs, Scholes, Keane etc to guide the young kids, set standards and demand elite levels, but you have no one to guide these young kids when the pressure mounts. They look scared and lost. There's a reason why Madrid are always there, because nothing less than 1st place will be tolerated... Time to demand the same from your club.
A concerning pattern in the past two games is Arsenal getting tired in the second half and teams knowing it, waiting it out for the first half and then going for the kill in the 2nd half. Arteta has been figured out and that's a problem for him as he has never offered anything remotely original tactics and football wise. He has been coasting by regurgitating what he learned (copied) from Pep but when that idea gets figured out he has nothing to draw from. After all, you can't imitate originality. The seasons end could get real ugly now as he has been figured out.
Interesting chat guys, especially the bit around an hour in where Northside started talking about the reactionary toxicity towards ‘conspiracy theories’ - there’s a hell of a lot of deception in this world. Have any of you looked into the shape of the earth as you might well be a little surprised?
Gotta give credit to Egal. Yes, he's bloody deluded 100%.... but he comes on the show to defend his view with others who obviously disagree. Big respect, Egal and Lee Gunner, for putting this great livestream together!
Great stream. Big up you all. Lee, did you ever imagine, when you were younger, that you’d end up working a job where you can sit and chat football whilst drinking beers? lol All the very best to you 👍
Lee Gunner says something very important that we all should thing untill the end of the season ´´ the players are the reflashtion of the manager´´ Arteta should we will not take arsenal to new level.
Sorry Lee You're wrong mate, Milan is the biggest Italian club in italy, More UCLS than the division combined, more than Triple the UCLS of Juve and 20 odd titles to go with it - correct answer is AC Milan. Juventus would sacrifice 15 titles to have even 3 more UCL to get to 5 lee. Those are Facts.
No, you are incorrect it is juventus , juventus is the most successful Italian club . They are a bigger club than AC Milan , Roma, and Inter Milan are bigger than AC Milan, too.
@@Matt-pn1ce Roma & Inter are not bigger than Milan 😂, it’s arguable Juve are bigger but 7 champions league is a lot. I’d still say Milan are the biggest Italian club.
why get rid of a formula, that had served you well up until now? Aston Villa and now Bayern Munich. CL was never doable, but the PL? Arteta got his priorities wrong and now? Another trophyless season, thrown to the wayside, just like Wenger did in his late years at the club. Going around in circles. Honestly am tired of participation trophies, another great chance for silverware, wasted. Some might say, its not over. Judging by the players tonight, if they dont pull out of this mindset they are in now? It is over, because there is no way City are going to relinquish where they are so easily. Arsenal may have just handed over the title in a pretty pink bow. Its quite frankly tiresome, especially when the Kroenkes dont give a crap about the most loyal of fans, just to turn a profit, which these new age Gunners do not get! Being used like puppets on a string, accepting the slop that is put infront of them "just consoome product and be excited for the next product"
Because teams figure you out. Besides, Arteta's "brand" of football was never original. He has been coasting by from copying Pep but when it comes to original ideas and his own style of football there's nothing for him to draw from. Because you can't imitate originality.
Arteta has just proved that he can’t manage the crunch time of a season again ! Saka once again ghosting in important games. We need a new manager ! Why not try Tuchel ? Jonny Minerals would be fuming though 😂
At best and I mean at best next season we will match what we've done this season. More likely than that is we start to decline and go a bit stale and be in top 4 battles again. Arteta needs to walk. It's best for him as his stock is still high and it's best for us
What a show! Lee waved at the end 😂😂😂. Egal man, I dont know what to say. You and others alike are definitely the issue with the Arsenal fan base. You man should have a conversation with Dayo. Although it seems like a long to roar to nowhere talking to the Arteta lovers. Standards are low, failure is repetitive, always imoroving or declining but ultimately always failing snd winning nothing when the conclusion is drawn. Weak! Im a Chelsea fan by the way, and we are shyte, but can always laught at you man for the reasons mentioned
Lacking decent penetration and unable to come from behind Arteta experienced what every man suffers at one point or other in a high stress situation Elite style disfunction Flopping before even getting a semi Losing it completely and unable to use his head. Fans expecting a better performance were visibly dissatisfied and left wondering if this manager could ever reach a final, winning climax
Jez u said in this stream it doesn't matter where you come from you can support any team u like.yet a few hours earlier you were saying their not real arsenal fans their from bloody Hertfordshire.which one is it?
Jez looks like he is one of those Amazon call centre agents worst nightmare 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂. I fully understand what your talking about
😂😂😂😂😂😂. I fully understand what your talking about
You know what is funny? Arteta after the game saying they lost because they do not have a 30-40 goal a season striker... guess who signed Jesus and Havertz for a combined almost 130m euros and gave them the two biggest salaries at the club by far?
I’m not an Arsenal fan but what’s crazy to me is how the team still needs players even after all the money Arteta has spent.
You still need a striker, winger, fullback, and a midfielder or two. That’s insane considering Arteta’s already done like £600m. The starting 11 should have been completed by now.
Financial mismanagement I believe
It's Ten Haag bad & he's been there longer & recieves less criticism which is truly baffling to me
Lee's soft mutant imitation voice kills me everytime 😆
He sounds like Larry the Lamb!
More emergency meetings than Champions League trophies. Sad times. 😢
To be fair to Kenny he called it before the game talking to Dan Potts....'it's not a mental block they're suffering from, they're just not as good as we think'
Bayerns front 5 are just better than ours and that's just an observable fact.
Don't worry Lee my sources at the fish market tell me that we have a larger fish that is ready to be fried.
😂😂😂😂
I just did my analysis of Arsenal the last 5 years before Arteta and the 5 years after appointing him.
Total games before his appointment =190 games, total points=354, goals scored=360, goals conceded= 218, goal difference= 142.
Total games after his appointment =184 games, total points=341, goals scored=336, goals conceded= 210, goal difference= 126.
Now lets looks at points per game
Before appointment
Total points/game=1.863, goals scored/game=1.894, goals conceded/game=1.147, goal difference/ game=0.747
After appointment
Total points/game=1.853, goals scored/game=1.826, goals conceded/game=1.141, goal difference/ game=0.684
NET SPEND
Before arteta = $ 337 million
After appointing Arteta= $ 550 million
Trophies
Before Arteta = 2 FA cup, 3 community shield, although i wont use community shield in my calculations of netspend/trophy
After appointing Arteta = 1 FA cup, 2 community shield, although i wont use community shield in my calculations of netspend/trophy
Net spend/ trophy
Before arteta = $ 169 million/trophy
After appointing Arteta= $ 550 million/ trophy
So its fair to say Arsenal were way better off the last 5 years before appointing Arteta than the years under Arteta. Thats what statistics show
Anyone ready to admit that in fact these players have all stagnated as long as Arteta has been here. Saka could actually take players on when Emery brought him through, Eddie and martinelli used to finish 5 years ago. Why can't no1 see this??????????????
Martinelli has dropped off but nketiah has always been a scrub
Havertz is going to get Arteta sacked. A truly awful signing.
Arteta ain't good enough as well.
Oh really? I thought Arteta resurrected him, every Chelsea fan told you guys Havertz is not good enough.
Is Terry football terrace still twerking for Arsenal?
"Arsenal are scary"
Yes scray to support 🍼😄
That guy should work at an Arsenal themed Hooters given how much he shakes it for them
Unai emery is that man.....the club blew it...
I’m loving this debate! Lee Gunner & the panel know their shit to be far! Excellent work 🙏🏼
Towards the end Lee was steaming on the tins love it man. Top man Lee bro
Lee randomly hitting mosquitos 😂😂😂😂 🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟🦟.
To be Fair - if AC Milan didn't have 19 Titles and 7 UCLS and 8 Ballon D'Or awards in Museum then maybe Arsenal could be bigger 😂😂😂😂😂😂 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡.
Hats off to egal entering the lions den! Opinions differ but nice to see all on one stream.more emergency meetings please
Society is so brainwashed and conformist. These days it's too hard to have original and truthful opinions based on reality. That mindset infects every aspect of life, including football.
Arsenal is losing due to fragile football imo. The narrative comes after not before
Drunk lee is undefeated 😂😂😂😂😂
We look like we are back to the Arsenal of 2021/2022.
I had a debate last night with a delusional fan who said “QF of the CL & even if we finish 3rd that’s progress, & I’m not Arteta out as long as I see progress”
Wow
So 5th, 2nd & then 3rd is progress now?
wow emergency meeting for 3 hours. That's dope guyz. RESPECT!!!
Give super mik a 15 yr extension
Lee think you should get Yardman Afc in some of your videos, he has very good opinions
"Arsenal fans need to stick by Arteta" Talksport
haha emergency meetn for 3 hours. That's dope. Love you guys
They still have thier "best defence in the world" and "8 points from city and liverpool" trophies.
Not an Arsenal fan but I will say Arsenal have ended up in a weird spot. It's basically back to the Wenger days, Arteta is doing well but everytime I see someone back them to win the league or Champions League I just can't see it happenning. In some ways it's worse to constantly be in the mix but not winning than it is to just be dogshit.
What has Elneny, Nkehtia, Cedric done to get contract extension on what merit can someone tell me. We're not serious at this club. That's not scapegoating Arteta can't handle the pressure and it trickle down to the players
Bayern View if you actually watch your games you should be thankful that Dier is at the club, because he is defensively way more solid than Upamecano who had already a horror show of a performance last year against city, and Kim Min Jae who left his form back in Korea.
Emery with this Arsenal team would be infront in the title race. And through to the Semis of the UCL. Imo.
Fans are going to be rattled when Villa wins the UEFA Conference league😂
eddie should refund some percentage of his wages to the club.
he’s not at fault tho? He was brought in in garbage time
As a United fan since '86, watching what has happened at my club, let me tell you... Do not let this slide or keep buying the club PR. Demand widespread change or the rot gets too deep to cut out, and it becomes the culture of the club.
You're still suffering from the Wenger "4th place is as good as a trophy" statement which put standards into the dirt at your club, and always gave the players somewhere to hide.
Your problem with Arteta is that he booted out all the experienced players because he's insecure about winning nothing as a manager, and so he only wants kids who won't question him. Get a proper coach who can work with top players and demand excellence.
Forget style of play, get a manager who can install some steel, grit and a winning mentality even if that's Simeone, Conte, Jose etc to sh*thouse you to a title.
At United we had Giggs, Scholes, Keane etc to guide the young kids, set standards and demand elite levels, but you have no one to guide these young kids when the pressure mounts. They look scared and lost.
There's a reason why Madrid are always there, because nothing less than 1st place will be tolerated... Time to demand the same from your club.
I could listen to this all day long 😂 COYS
Based on your headline, I have to reluctantly agree with you. Arsenal are scary. They've just scared themselves out the champions league. Degrassi!
lit panel. We need to go for the kroenkes if this manager doesn't get sacked end of the season.
Jose's Chelsea 2005 was the youngest team ever to win PL, only 15 goals conceded. PS. I've seen video of that guy prayforbayern, that was so cringe.
A concerning pattern in the past two games is Arsenal getting tired in the second half and teams knowing it, waiting it out for the first half and then going for the kill in the 2nd half. Arteta has been figured out and that's a problem for him as he has never offered anything remotely original tactics and football wise. He has been coasting by regurgitating what he learned (copied) from Pep but when that idea gets figured out he has nothing to draw from. After all, you can't imitate originality. The seasons end could get real ugly now as he has been figured out.
1:51:10 - Italian journalists are also harsh
Lee gassing up Unai Emery now but watch his reaction 4 years ago when Emery get sacked from Arsenal!!
respect to Egal. I dont agree with him but he's a real one for coming on this platform where everyone dont agree with him.
Interesting chat guys, especially the bit around an hour in where Northside started talking about the reactionary toxicity towards ‘conspiracy theories’ - there’s a hell of a lot of deception in this world.
Have any of you looked into the shape of the earth as you might well be a little surprised?
2pts off the top and reached the 1/4 finals - panel 'I told you so'. LOLOLOLOLOL
*all variants of Lee Gunner assemble!!*
Doesn’t rate inter 🤦♂️ that goof is the worst.
This is my thing as well. It's the same thing every April for the gunners .
Keep holding them accountable fellas !
Gotta give credit to Egal. Yes, he's bloody deluded 100%.... but he comes on the show to defend his view with others who obviously disagree. Big respect, Egal and Lee Gunner, for putting this great livestream together!
i need some of the packet lee's on man, looks bangin
Like Arsenal tweeted yesterday, you should be very proud of losing to the worst Bayern manager ever...
Big up Lee. I loved this show. Although im a rival but this was a great show. Big up
1:59:31 Northside gave such a perfect example 😅👌
Let's Ave it Right...Lee is a real football supporter.
Wanting tuchel out of a club is completely delouison world class manager
Man this bit is facts 58:00 💯
Did you guys saw Arteta's post match interview?
We don’t have the mentality
Egal seems like a sound lad. No point making it personal
Arsenal lack leaders and difference making players that can rescue a game when you need it the most it’s that simple
It’s getting harder by the day to defend saka and im his biggest fan.
Credits to you for supporting the club and not the players over the club 👍
this is literally me with Szobo and Núñez 😢😢
We're not showing intent and it shows with our recruitment
Thx Guns!! 🍺🤟🏼
Great stream. Big up you all. Lee, did you ever imagine, when you were younger, that you’d end up working a job where you can sit and chat football whilst drinking beers? lol All the very best to you 👍
Lee Gunner says something very important that we all should thing untill the end of the season ´´ the players are the reflashtion of the manager´´ Arteta should we will not take arsenal to new level.
Arsenal value nkeitah at 40mill which brainiac at your club values him at that and who gave a 100k a week contract
This is just PR. They should've done this last year now that things are getting hot they're trying to make panic moves to please the fans.
Arteta was a Wenger player from the banter era. He has no winning mentality and when the pressure's on... he crumbles!
Did my man in the top right corner suggest Lautaro Martinez as a striker for arsenal 🤣 and I’m not even an arsenal fan
There is no genuine thought behind Egal’s words. Stream became borderline unwatchable when he joined. He’s just regurgitating the same dribble.
Sorry Lee You're wrong mate, Milan is the biggest Italian club in italy, More UCLS than the division combined, more than Triple the UCLS of Juve and 20 odd titles to go with it - correct answer is AC Milan. Juventus would sacrifice 15 titles to have even 3 more UCL to get to 5 lee. Those are Facts.
No, you are incorrect it is juventus , juventus is the most successful Italian club . They are a bigger club than AC Milan , Roma, and Inter Milan are bigger than AC Milan, too.
@@Matt-pn1ce
Roma & Inter are not bigger than Milan 😂, it’s arguable Juve are bigger but 7 champions league is a lot. I’d still say Milan are the biggest Italian club.
THOUGHTS ON LEE JUDGES BEING CHALLENGED ON HIS PLAYER RATINGS ON AFTV BY XXXL WARRIOR JUDGES SAID 6 ROBBIE SAID NO HES A 7 “SORRY HES THE BOSS”
why get rid of a formula, that had served you well up until now? Aston Villa and now Bayern Munich. CL was never doable, but the PL? Arteta got his priorities wrong and now? Another trophyless season, thrown to the wayside, just like Wenger did in his late years at the club. Going around in circles. Honestly am tired of participation trophies, another great chance for silverware, wasted. Some might say, its not over. Judging by the players tonight, if they dont pull out of this mindset they are in now? It is over, because there is no way City are going to relinquish where they are so easily. Arsenal may have just handed over the title in a pretty pink bow.
Its quite frankly tiresome, especially when the Kroenkes dont give a crap about the most loyal of fans, just to turn a profit, which these new age Gunners do not get! Being used like puppets on a string, accepting the slop that is put infront of them "just consoome product and be excited for the next product"
Because teams figure you out. Besides, Arteta's "brand" of football was never original. He has been coasting by from copying Pep but when it comes to original ideas and his own style of football there's nothing for him to draw from. Because you can't imitate originality.
Ask yourself one question do you have faith that Arteta will prove to be an elite manager?
Arteta has just proved that he can’t manage the crunch time of a season again ! Saka once again ghosting in important games. We need a new manager ! Why not try Tuchel ? Jonny Minerals would be fuming though 😂
At best and I mean at best next season we will match what we've done this season. More likely than that is we start to decline and go a bit stale and be in top 4 battles again. Arteta needs to walk. It's best for him as his stock is still high and it's best for us
Players will start leaving next season too.
what a great day in football when Spurs put the nail in the coffin for Arsenal😂
Arsenal has always counted the chics before they hatch...Oh,the best back line in premier league,Superstar Saka and it doesn't work
What a show! Lee waved at the end 😂😂😂.
Egal man, I dont know what to say. You and others alike are definitely the issue with the Arsenal fan base. You man should have a conversation with Dayo. Although it seems like a long to roar to nowhere talking to the Arteta lovers.
Standards are low, failure is repetitive, always imoroving or declining but ultimately always failing snd winning nothing when the conclusion is drawn. Weak!
Im a Chelsea fan by the way, and we are shyte, but can always laught at you man for the reasons mentioned
Can Arteta sign Miguel at CB, This brothers willing to lay down and die for the club 🔥🔥🔥
As terry said arteta coached a win so give him time
Lacking decent penetration and unable to come from behind Arteta experienced what every man suffers at one point or other in a high stress situation Elite style disfunction Flopping before even getting a semi Losing it completely and unable to use his head. Fans expecting a better performance were visibly dissatisfied and left wondering if this manager could ever reach a final, winning climax
Watch Arsenal offer Arteta a new contract. That was a pathetic 2nd half. Arteta is a fraud.
we made bayern look good, they are not beating madrid!
No backup for Saka is poor
"we will be there or there abouts next season"?!
The delusion is actually disgusting. Aren't you embarrassed? Bring back shame!
Egal talks out of his arse
GOAT podcast by legends and av to Big up Miguel absolute solider I totally disagree with him but he’s got heart 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
BOTTLE JOB KINGS
Who benefits for us being in the champions league
Chelsea first London club twice
Arsenal will always fail under this manager and ownership
Jez u said in this stream it doesn't matter where you come from you can support any team u like.yet a few hours earlier you were saying their not real arsenal fans their from bloody Hertfordshire.which one is it?
order restored lol
Wow !
Remember your fans saying bring on Real Madrid 😂😂😂
Have we fried the bigger fish?
Bro Lee did you see what Edu posted on Instagram 😂 This club is finished if changes don't happen soon.
In champions league best Arsenal team will lose to worst Bayern and Real.
Lee should remember the manager he gobbles up "Don Simeone" lost to Dortmund
Spending 500 million less than Arsenal
To be fair he said Simeone should’ve been sacked
...who has won many trophies in his career. Lee's other manager, Ancelotti, seems to be doing pretty well.
I'm a Liverpool fan !! Egal is a chav !!!
These lot are so hurt
But i understand