@@ab5olut3zero95 I considered it possibly was a joke but wasn't entirely sure because it's completely and totally plainly worded exactly as a normal compliment. And quite frankly, my expectation of people on the internet actually paying enough attention to/knowing what first of one entails is rather low.
@@bobbydylsn2633: too thin to be Karl, (to be fair, Karl is somewhat 'smaller' than, say five years ago) but I'd say the shadow is of someone with more slender build.
They work great: you throw the kettle bell up in an arc, it lands on a mine with just enough force to make a sound on the mine but not detonate it, then you send in a random conscript to "disarm" the mine. It gets rid of the mines and keeps the number of mouths to feed at a minimum.
"I never lose. I win, or I learn." You epitomized that. You didn't lose, you learned a lot! First, you were handicapped by shooting guns (and gear) designed specifically for right handed shooters. The one time that shooting weak side would have given you a slight advantage, you were handicapped again with the kettlebell. You have probably already concluded this, but since you aren't using the sling as a shooting aid, or walking/marching with it slung on your shoulder, run it out so you can easily sling it on your back and possibly, move it to the side position. Overall, you did well. A very enjoyable video and as always, I look forward to your next!
@@Seelenschmiede I think that sort of attitude toward people who actually went there and shot the match is a bit incompatibile with the spirit of the 2-gun matches (and all sport-ish events).
@@Seelenschmiede Now you are trying to attribute to them certain characteristic, which you made up in your mind based on, well, things you made up in your mind.
I'm korean but I was adopted and get mother and grandfather were Finnish and I have a very odd relationship with cultures im close too and I share a name with the crown prince of Norway!
Bloke On The Range: "God, doing a mad minute with a Mosin Nagant was some bullshit. I can't imagine a worse shooting drill to run with one of those." Ian: "Check this shit out ayy LMAO"
It would be neat to see more Two Gun and Back Up Gun matches. Imo, they are the most thrilling to watch. I mean, there truly is nothing better then watching lord Gun Jesus shooting at steel targets in a competition match.
Agreed! I liked his back up gun match videos so much I contacted the guy in AZ who invented and runs the match...and got his OK to try to replicate it Down Under. (That IS a bit of a challenge because of our barrel length laws.... we cannot legally own any real "Back up" type guns...it is becoming a match for guns folks don't get to otherwise shoot in structured matches.... so we are seeing folks bring out dusty revolvers and rimfires...and I shoot my 1912 Steyr.... lol. Lots of fun)
Ian -- thanks for doing these matches with Forgotten Weapons. It is good to see their performance vs. the latest tech. Using a bolt action and beating anyone with a modern semi-auto is bad ass. Keep up the practice, the fans are rooting for you.
@@glandhound Reminds me of scene in movie Pohjanmaa: ”Where did you get that Nagant revolver? From russian. He didnt want to give it so had to take it.”
Thinking about it with a lathi or luger he would most probably be a officer who "borrows" a rifle from one of his soldier to get in on the action. With a tokarev he could be a private/nco with a captured russian pistol. Cant see the finns giving anyone both a pistol and a rifle given how short on weapons they were.
These shoots you do with matching period firearms are cool. I noticed at the beginning your cameraman was having a little fun too! Always enjoy your videos, keep up the good work.
After watching the video, a few notes. 1. Move the carrying sling to the side of the gun and extend the strap slightly. 2. The m/39 rifle has an trouble free magazine. So it doesn't matter how you put the stripper clip in the gun. When feeding cartridges manually one by one, remember to put each cartridge in the magazine so that it locks in place. Then the magazine feeds without error's. Only the first cartridge may be difficult to feed. 3. Learn to shoot two sided. If I learn it, you will learn it. the hardest part is teaching the dominant eye not to be dominant.
Videos like this are nice. I like the commentary. The way you decided to do the match was also way more interesting. Btw Ian, if you ever have a chance visiting Finland, check out Vapriikki museum at Tampere downtown. They've had an extensive civil war of 1917 exhibition for the past couple of years. Perhaps it's still around the next time you visit. A lot of rifles from civil war, the german and russian rifles that were used as well as the general equipment. There was a huge pile of rifles set on stands and fully geared up soldier mannequins. Old skis and whatnot. I'm sure it would be interesting to you.
I think there were a couple others shooting manual, but yeah. Ian beat several people with autoloaders, while fumbling his Moisin reloads. Bad day at the range for them for sure!
As someone who doesn't get his ass to the range nearly enough: people who actually get their ass to the range, and particularly those who shoot competitively, will pretty much always trump those who don't - regardless of equipment. Always remember: you can never miss fast enough to catch up.
@@andrewromig9753 and you're better off buying a bottom end AR and spending the difference on ammo than you are buying that top end JP competition spec AR. Even today $2000 is a lot of ammo to practice with!
My goal in 3-gun matches was " NOT to place last". My rifle is a MkIII Enfield, so speed only comes from hitting with every shot. The 10 round box helps. So very good. Lessons learned.
The fact that you not only didn't come last, but actually beat 8 other people, while running a bolt-action and a 90 year old pistol is actually quite impressive.
"Lahti pistol would've been more appropriate" I don't think it would've actually. Makes much more sense that a Finnish rifleman would have a captured sidearm than an issued one.
Sidearms are assinged for special forces and military police in Finland, possibly for officers too. Was able to shoot FN 9mm (and Maxim heavy machine gun, KvKK-62 shitty light machine gun, and of course RK-62) back in the 90's, when serving 11 months in Finnish army, being a radio man at the coastline. :D
I do have a bit of an issue with the "Tokarev has no safety if any kind" statement. Maybe it doesn't count for this particular type of competition, but it does have one.
I've never handled one, but it's my understanding unless you're counting the half cock notch they don't, putting the hammer all the way down is not safe as the firing pin is direct acting. It's also my understanding official training on these was to carry empty chamber anyway.
It can fire if you drop it. It's happens rarely but it is still possible. As comment above said the official training is to carry it with chamber empty.
With a full power rifle you can really see when the projectile hits. Smaller caliber rounds sometimes make it really hard to tell where you shots have hit.
The Tokarev does come with a safety, as half-cock will lock the mech, preventing the hammer from striking the firing pin. I EDC'd a Tok for about two years, and carried with loaded chamber, half-cock.
@@ForgottenWeapons that might be because of the organizer and rules they have for now days matches here in the US. To say that the TT has no safety is just not correct!
Absolutely love shooting my tokarev. Surprisingly accurate pistol, and it’s a really hot round. Even the added safeties I wouldn’t trust though, not much to them.
Good job Ian! Bolt actions can be good fun shooting ipsc matches when the stripper clips reloads are going in. I've shot the kv 59 mauser in .308 in one match, and that rifle never liked my 30-06 clips, kept getting jams. The last kettlebell looked really heavy! 😅
Wow, both the TT and Mosin-Nagant show some proper umph at this stage. Those old russian girls still throw plenty lead pill smack down range. Great shooting, Ian!
EDM: Yeah, we already got that by ourselves. But, we have a trick for _you_ how to prevent soldiers from wasting ammunition on an assault: Throw the cattle-belt...
Somebody has to carry the ammo! I like the 45lb bell concept. Reminds me of the memoir "blood red snow". Ammo carriers were critical in winter war/ww2. Is that the point of the bell?
No, not really. But the physical stress makes it harder to hold breath and tired muscles tend to shake. Like most obstacles in these matches it adds challenge. A cattle-belt is pretty easy to handle in this environment, too. Doesn't need much space and preparation like wooden obstacles or running a long distance.
@@glandhound You don't seem to know the half cock position on the TT it locks the trigger and slide it is not different then to have a safety on the side!
While I don't understand the point or logic behind the kettlebells and think they're dumb, I thoroughly enjoyed watching you shoot both of these weapons under stress. Nice job!
The point is to make you tired. Most competitive shooting is done on the spot, rested and supported. Medicines that calm you down like diatsepam are considered performance enhancing drugs in the sport. If you have to either carry/trow a extra weight with you (like all soldiers did) it represents the conditions where most of the actual shooting happened.
1:45
Look at the shadows! The Emus are back!!!
I told you!!!
good god someone grab a lewis gun! or several!
Oh god oh no
Crikey!
Wow, thanks for pointing that out, I completely missed that. Had a good laugh now though!
Congrats coming first in the manual division.
Beat me to it. WP.
He was the only one in the manual divison. :p
That’s the joke Einstein...
@@ab5olut3zero95 I considered it possibly was a joke but wasn't entirely sure because it's completely and totally plainly worded exactly as a normal compliment.
And quite frankly, my expectation of people on the internet actually paying enough attention to/knowing what first of one entails is rather low.
He also came in last technically
1:45 Your cameraman seems to be busy doing non camera stuff :D
Probably Carl and his shenanigans again.
@@bobbydylsn2633: too thin to be Karl, (to be fair, Karl is somewhat 'smaller' than, say five years ago) but I'd say the shadow is of someone with more slender build.
Excellent form.
@@charlesadams1721 good catch
Good eye, I had to go back and watch again. LOL
@1:44 the camera guy making shadows with his hand😅😂
Omg
Lolz
Just like in the Ace Ventura movie
@@gaveintothedarkness exactly!😂
The round hitting the plate with all the dust around is soo cool looking (very clear in ian's last stage)
7.62x54r smacks the plate with authority!
So does the 7.62×25
I am watch the same thing :D
I really like it when you narrate over the action, it gives us a feel for what was happening and what you were thinking,
Is Karl a stock holder in a kettle bell company or something? It's starting to get suspicious.
Ian and and Karl are planning to sell them to Elbonia. As mine detectors.
They work great: you throw the kettle bell up in an arc, it lands on a mine with just enough force to make a sound on the mine but not detonate it, then you send in a random conscript to "disarm" the mine. It gets rid of the mines and keeps the number of mouths to feed at a minimum.
@@danielthompson6207 Sounds like a pretty efficient process, the world really can learn a thing or two from Elbonia.
"I never lose. I win, or I learn." You epitomized that. You didn't lose, you learned a lot! First, you were handicapped by shooting guns (and gear) designed specifically for right handed shooters. The one time that shooting weak side would have given you a slight advantage, you were handicapped again with the kettlebell. You have probably already concluded this, but since you aren't using the sling as a shooting aid, or walking/marching with it slung on your shoulder, run it out so you can easily sling it on your back and possibly, move it to the side position. Overall, you did well. A very enjoyable video and as always, I look forward to your next!
Of course he didn't lose. He came in first in his division.
I like this style of narration over the footage, it's nice to have clean vocals giving details etc.
5:53 "Perkele" :D
8:22 Wait. You beat 8 other people who weren’t using a bolt action!? Nice.
Imagine being beaten by a bolt action guy fumbling up his reloads... what did they do? Throwing the cattle bell backwards?
@@Seelenschmiede I think that sort of attitude toward people who actually went there and shot the match is a bit incompatibile with the spirit of the 2-gun matches (and all sport-ish events).
@@randomnobodovsky3692 I feel sorry for them when they can't stand a bit light hearted fun...
@@Seelenschmiede Now you are trying to attribute to them certain characteristic, which you made up in your mind based on, well, things you made up in your mind.
He even pulled it off with a garbage rod lmao
Suomi perkele!!! 🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮
Love Finland from Vietnamese 🇻🇳
SUOMI KP! PYSTYKORVA! KOSKENKORVA! MOLOTOVIN KOKTAIL! PERKELE! KARJALA TAKAISIN!
Torille!
@@BrorAppelsin Niitähä ois joulutoreja😄
I'm korean but I was adopted and get mother and grandfather were Finnish and I have a very odd relationship with cultures im close too and I share a name with the crown prince of Norway!
Bloke On The Range: "God, doing a mad minute with a Mosin Nagant was some bullshit. I can't imagine a worse shooting drill to run with one of those."
Ian: "Check this shit out ayy LMAO"
This wasn't a mad minute. For the love of god, please educate yourself.
@@larsdejong7396 read Lorenzo's comment again. He said this is WORSE than shooting a mad minute. (Educate YOURSELF)
Ian: "bolt guns are obsolete"
Also Ian: *beats 6 people running semi-autos with a bolt action mosin*
@@ExtractoDeTomates It turns out that there is a point at which the skill gap overcomes the weapon gap...
@@ExtractoDeTomates or DQ'd
I don't really think you understand the definition of obsolete...
@@larsdejong7396 the way its going in America you will be all back to bolt guns and even black powder😃😃
That M39 looks beautiful.
0:09 According to the autocaption, your sidearm is a pokemon...
I choose you Tokarev !
Tokarev used mag dump! It’s super effective!
The PKM's nickname in the FDF is Pokemon.
It would be neat to see more Two Gun and Back Up Gun matches. Imo, they are the most thrilling to watch. I mean, there truly is nothing better then watching lord Gun Jesus shooting at steel targets in a competition match.
InRange.tv. If you aren't already, check Karl out. Also most of Ian's competition shooting is over there.
Agreed! I liked his back up gun match videos so much I contacted the guy in AZ who invented and runs the match...and got his OK to try to replicate it Down Under. (That IS a bit of a challenge because of our barrel length laws.... we cannot legally own any real "Back up" type guns...it is becoming a match for guns folks don't get to otherwise shoot in structured matches.... so we are seeing folks bring out dusty revolvers and rimfires...and I shoot my 1912 Steyr.... lol. Lots of fun)
Ian -- thanks for doing these matches with Forgotten Weapons. It is good to see their performance vs. the latest tech. Using a bolt action and beating anyone with a modern semi-auto is bad ass. Keep up the practice, the fans are rooting for you.
1:41
Look at the shadows😳😂
Lmao
That's the quality content I came here to see! :D
😂😂😂 That's funny
It's a serious match they say.
Ha! Those goofballs
Imagine the faces of the 8 guys that ended lower when they learned they lost to a guy with a Mosin and a tokarev
Counting that the Finnish army used quite a bit of them in the Winter and Continuation wars i think the TT fits well for this challenge.
@@glandhound
Reminds me of scene in movie Pohjanmaa: ”Where did you get that Nagant revolver? From russian. He didnt want to give it so had to take it.”
Thinking about it with a lathi or luger he would most probably be a officer who "borrows" a rifle from one of his soldier to get in on the action. With a tokarev he could be a private/nco with a captured russian pistol. Cant see the finns giving anyone both a pistol and a rifle given how short on weapons they were.
@@borjesvensson8661 You're right, a heavy birch stick was likely the usual standoff weapon of (little) choice, if you didn't have a puuko handy.
That's a beautiful M39, and nice shooting, hit the pistol so well!
Shoutout to the excellent camera work in this one
wow... you got 1st place of the manual competitors. Gratz Ian! XD
Nice shooting, Ian. Nice seeing the old iron working today.
Good stuff man! I’ve got 2 M-39s and love them both. The Finns really knew what they were doing.
Ian's not just a top gun collector/historian but also a pretty good shooter. Well done my man.
I like the very audible 'grunts' with each kettlebell toss. Fumble fingers runs a close second.
These shoots you do with matching period firearms are cool. I noticed at the beginning your cameraman was having a little fun too! Always enjoy your videos, keep up the good work.
Just what I needed to start my Saturday. Thanks Ian for the quality content
that is a very challenging course of fire ! Love that arizona sunshine Ian !
Thanks for sharing and Merry Christmas!
I like this format of video, keep going. (Also love from Finland, torilla tavataan!)
Duuuuude, that shit looks ALOT harder than i think people might think. But definitely looks fun! You did way better than i would do!
I love that you do these with some esoteric firearms.
I think there should be a few matches requiring firearms like this.
This is pretty cool
You did a great job Ian
Kicking ass with the bolt action
This showcased how thing's don't go as smooth as video game. Reloads take longer than a second or 2. Excellent video 🇬🇧.
After watching the video, a few notes.
1. Move the carrying sling to the side of the gun and extend the strap slightly.
2. The m/39 rifle has an trouble free magazine. So it doesn't matter how you put the stripper clip in the gun.
When feeding cartridges manually one by one, remember to put each cartridge in the magazine so that it locks in place.
Then the magazine feeds without error's. Only the first cartridge may be difficult to feed.
3. Learn to shoot two sided. If I learn it, you will learn it. the hardest part is teaching the dominant eye not to be dominant.
Borat “Pistol shooting...good. Rifle shooting...not so good”
hey you, why do you have a picture of me
@@bigmouthprick5852 I’m the ORIGINAL Niko!
Hey! You WON the Manual Division! Great Work!
Well done, looks like you had a great time and congrats on your performance against significantly more modern competition!
I'm amazed you didn't finish last, great job Ian!
Fantastic content as usual. I'd love to see more of this style video.
Videos like this are nice. I like the commentary. The way you decided to do the match was also way more interesting.
Btw Ian, if you ever have a chance visiting Finland, check out Vapriikki museum at Tampere downtown. They've had an extensive civil war of 1917 exhibition for the past couple of years. Perhaps it's still around the next time you visit. A lot of rifles from civil war, the german and russian rifles that were used as well as the general equipment. There was a huge pile of rifles set on stands and fully geared up soldier mannequins. Old skis and whatnot. I'm sure it would be interesting to you.
That looks like a smooth action for a Mosin. Paskasta kultaa PERKELE!
Tough looking challenge , great job !
Ian you’re too much fun! Great stuff man :)
Love hearing that big ole bullet hit steel
Good run gun jesus!
Really liked that with the commentary
That is a very nice stock for that mosin
So wait ... [counts on fingers] ... 8 dudes with modern guns got beat by Ian and his mosin?
I think there were a couple others shooting manual, but yeah. Ian beat several people with autoloaders, while fumbling his Moisin reloads.
Bad day at the range for them for sure!
As someone who doesn't get his ass to the range nearly enough: people who actually get their ass to the range, and particularly those who shoot competitively, will pretty much always trump those who don't - regardless of equipment.
Always remember: you can never miss fast enough to catch up.
@@andrewromig9753 and you're better off buying a bottom end AR and spending the difference on ammo than you are buying that top end JP competition spec AR. Even today $2000 is a lot of ammo to practice with!
What a cool competition! Good job
huh, apparently I find hitting targets with bolt action rifle extremely arous...satisfying.
Very cool performance. Well done!
Love these videos, Ian!
My goal in 3-gun matches was " NOT to place last". My rifle is a MkIII Enfield, so speed only comes from hitting with every shot. The 10 round box helps.
So very good. Lessons learned.
Love these videos man, good stuff
The fact that you not only didn't come last, but actually beat 8 other people, while running a bolt-action and a 90 year old pistol is actually quite impressive.
Seeing Ian shoot a rifle right handed is so cursed but I love it.
Nice shooting, Ian. Great jacket you're wearing too ! :o
Looks like someone needs a left handed holster. Great video. Keep it up boss
Congratulations on your 1st place finish!!
grats on winning the manual division!
I like the shadow puppets at the start of the second stage by the cameraman. Nice touch ;)
Good video and well done, I am definitely to long in the tooth for this one.
"Lahti pistol would've been more appropriate" I don't think it would've actually. Makes much more sense that a Finnish rifleman would have a captured sidearm than an issued one.
Sidearms are assinged for special forces and military police in Finland, possibly for officers too. Was able to shoot FN 9mm (and Maxim heavy machine gun, KvKK-62 shitty light machine gun, and of course RK-62) back in the 90's, when serving 11 months in Finnish army, being a radio man at the coastline. :D
I do have a bit of an issue with the "Tokarev has no safety if any kind" statement. Maybe it doesn't count for this particular type of competition, but it does have one.
I've never handled one, but it's my understanding unless you're counting the half cock notch they don't, putting the hammer all the way down is not safe as the firing pin is direct acting. It's also my understanding official training on these was to carry empty chamber anyway.
It can fire if you drop it. It's happens rarely but it is still possible. As comment above said the official training is to carry it with chamber empty.
Fantastic job Ian!
With a full power rifle you can really see when the projectile hits. Smaller caliber rounds sometimes make it really hard to tell where you shots have hit.
7.62×54 soviet is no slouch.
@@armorer94 thumps with lots of authority, that's for sure!
You did a great job! I'd probably would have puked from exertion on the 1st stage!
Excellent job. Thats no way task. Great training. Enjoyed the video. Thank you.
very beautiful shot at 6:33, cinematically.
These look like so much fun, I would really like to try something like this one day.
Man, those jacket & cap made me jealous.
Not being last with a bolt action and an original Tokarev is mighty impressive!
The Tokarev does come with a safety, as half-cock will lock the mech, preventing the hammer from striking the firing pin.
I EDC'd a Tok for about two years, and carried with loaded chamber, half-cock.
That does not pass muster for modern match standards.
@@ForgottenWeapons that might be because of the organizer and rules they have for now days matches here in the US. To say that the TT has no safety is just not correct!
Congratulations on the first place!
Check out the camera guy's shadow at about 2:00 lol
Kneeling clean I believe Ian do you have come up with a new exercise
That "perkele" at 5:54 cracked me up
I had a similar feed issue with my Mosin M44 and it turned out to be the interrupter. Gave it a good clean and a new bend and it works perfectly now
7:51 “Pretty sure I only need two.”
Simo Häyhä, probably.
Absolutely love shooting my tokarev. Surprisingly accurate pistol, and it’s a really hot round. Even the added safeties I wouldn’t trust though, not much to them.
Well you learn something new every day! I didn't know M57 mags worked in a standard Tokarev.
Love any mosin videos
Congrats on 1st place in Manual division!
Good job Ian! Bolt actions can be good fun shooting ipsc matches when the stripper clips reloads are going in. I've shot the kv 59 mauser in .308 in one match, and that rifle never liked my 30-06 clips, kept getting jams. The last kettlebell looked really heavy! 😅
Wow, both the TT and Mosin-Nagant show some proper umph at this stage. Those old russian girls still throw plenty lead pill smack down range. Great shooting, Ian!
Fun to be a participant, Fun to watch
Hey is that the Elbonian Defence Ministry? I have a great idea to damp down your rifle recoil!
EDM: Yeah, we already got that by ourselves.
But, we have a trick for _you_ how to prevent soldiers from wasting ammunition on an assault: Throw the cattle-belt...
@@DrKlausTrophobie Curses! The Elbonians are coming up with thier own ideas! :-)
@@DrKlausTrophobie New plan! Wanna buy a mine detector?
@@51WCDodge Need something to open your tinned rations?
Congratulations Ian on your 1st place award!
Somebody has to carry the ammo! I like the 45lb bell concept. Reminds me of the memoir "blood red snow". Ammo carriers were critical in winter war/ww2. Is that the point of the bell?
No, not really.
But the physical stress makes it harder to hold breath and tired muscles tend to shake. Like most obstacles in these matches it adds challenge.
A cattle-belt is pretty easy to handle in this environment, too. Doesn't need much space and preparation like wooden obstacles or running a long distance.
Tecnicly the TT-33 has a Halfcock Position on the Hammer, that's safe enough for Sovjet officers
Ammo should have been 7.63 Mauser not mannlicher too
@@glandhound You don't seem to know the half cock position on the TT it locks the trigger and slide it is not different then to have a safety on the side!
@@1.forestrunner range insurance doesn't care.
Love the sound of that m39!
Good match. Good luck in the frozen northland. My grandson and I enjoyed the shadow puppet show on the second stage.
What a workout, great job!
Congratulations great job
That was a very impressive placing.
That was awesome, as long as you had fun who cares about keeping score love your videos and content, keep up the good work 🤘
While I don't understand the point or logic behind the kettlebells and think they're dumb, I thoroughly enjoyed watching you shoot both of these weapons under stress. Nice job!
The point is to make you tired. Most competitive shooting is done on the spot, rested and supported. Medicines that calm you down like diatsepam are considered performance enhancing drugs in the sport. If you have to either carry/trow a extra weight with you (like all soldiers did) it represents the conditions where most of the actual shooting happened.