BOSS ME-80 - Does it suck?

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  • Опубліковано 17 гру 2024

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  • @PedalScience
    @PedalScience  3 роки тому +25

    0:00 discussion / tuner / preamps (not great)
    2:55 passable leads
    4:50 compressor
    5:30 auto wah
    6:10 OC-2
    7:05 OC-2 + dirt
    7:50 slow gear
    8:20 defretter
    8:30 ring mod
    9:30 acoustic sim
    10:23 DS-1
    11:13 Turbo OD
    11:32 Blues
    11:28 T-Scream
    11:39 Overdrive
    11:54 Boost
    12:17 Turbo DS
    12:25 Metal DS
    12:30 Core
    12:38 Fuzz
    12:44 Oct Fuzz
    13:23 Phaser
    14:14 Flanger
    15:27 Tremolo
    16:00 Chorus
    16:30 Vibrato
    16:59 Pitch Shift
    18:30 Harmonist
    19:18 Rotary
    20:09 Uni-V
    21:00 Delay
    21:14 1-99ms delay
    21:23 500-6000ms delay
    21:40 will the delay self-oscillate? (no)
    22:00 analog (also doesn't quite oscillate, possibly a good thing?)
    22:30 tape
    22:50 modulate
    23:02 reverse delay (yes it goes fully wet)
    23:16 chorus + delay
    23:28 tera echo
    23:46 room reverb
    24:00 hall reverb
    24:16 spring reverb
    24:40 freeze / tera echo outro jam

    • @admbrnk3665
      @admbrnk3665 3 роки тому +1

      My wife is like the reverse echo in that way 😎

    • @manymul
      @manymul Рік тому

      Why were you on AC acoustic simulator most of the time on the pre amp

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  Рік тому

      @@manymul 'AC' on the preamp is actually just a clean / natural sounding amp. From the manual, "This amp is suited to an electric acoustic guitar", its not actually changing the sound too much like the 'AC SIM' mode in Comp/FX1 section.

    • @Jonathangonzale1986
      @Jonathangonzale1986 8 місяців тому

      The ac is not a pre amp...you have to use
      " clean to direct to mixer...not ac ...that is for acoustic pre amp

  • @terryhoffman8049
    @terryhoffman8049 3 роки тому +86

    I have this pedal and, I can't say enough about how Great it is! Ditched the pedal board and all the pedals and, simplified my rig. Absolutely never going back. Been a musician for over 50 yes best thing I've ever found! Highly recommend this unit!

    • @charlesfick729
      @charlesfick729 Рік тому

      Do u run into an amp from the 1/4” guitar out?

    • @misfit1-3
      @misfit1-3 3 місяці тому +1

      this is great to hear. I will be playing live soon and this was recommended by a friend. I hate to spead hounds on pedals so this is exactly what i was looking for

  • @DROP_BEARZ
    @DROP_BEARZ Рік тому +23

    Budget no issues, I keep choosing this over "better" and newer digital products. Love the ME80

    • @MrRFasters
      @MrRFasters Рік тому

      Me2. Mesa amp. Full swing Boss /Unobtanium driver pedal board, easy accees Mooer red truck mobile option: I keep getting back to this "can do it all and pedal like easy" wonderboard.
      But Jeez. Dream about the ME100, Boss recent 100/1000 modelling tech level, with seperate reverd and looper pedal (so more flex reverd and all delay options available) and a way to stack two drive pedal (as many dual drive pedals do). Adding a dumble type pre amp would be massive fun to, and a clean Clon type overdrive pedal. Them some IR options, aux in and phones out maintained and it would be even more the pedal board killer it nowadays already is.
      Pls pls pls mr Boss / Roland. Pls listen to us ...

    • @archkarr18
      @archkarr18 6 місяців тому

      yep..read my post...i would still use that thing straight into daw/frfr.. just have to put that dummy 3.5 headphone jack in headphone jack to engage the cab sim..sounds great🤘🤨

    • @matthewseel5961
      @matthewseel5961 4 місяці тому

      @@archkarr18 You can always get an external IR/Cab loader. I just bought a NUX mini for like 100 dollars.

  • @JJDoole
    @JJDoole Рік тому +10

    Perfect pedal board for me. Intuitive to use and the sounds are spot on. The ability to have a three band EQ along with the various overdrives is a total godsend.
    I tried upgrading to a GT-100, but it was a complete pain in the arse to try and use. Sold it again.

  • @jeremiedsouza6703
    @jeremiedsouza6703 Рік тому +8

    This is actually the perfect demo video for this really good pedal

  • @josephgarcia9905
    @josephgarcia9905 Рік тому +4

    As he said in the 1st 30 seconds, use a dummy plug in the rec/headphone jack and you have a pretty dn good sounding effects board. The ME-80 doesn't suck at all, especially for the price!

  • @ericoswood1856
    @ericoswood1856 Рік тому +6

    Actually the best demo I’ve seen of this pedal. Nice review. As far as the amp models, I prefer the clean sounds so it works.

  • @bankjibbernow
    @bankjibbernow 2 роки тому +13

    Its a fucking great underrated board. Doesnt suck at all, esse

  • @diarmaidok
    @diarmaidok 3 роки тому +6

    Sounds excellent, I may get one to supplement my pedal collection

  • @JeffManseau
    @JeffManseau Рік тому +2

    I've been using about a dozen pedals on my pedalboard for years and it's always been a huge source of anxiety for me because that setup has so many failure points (pedals themselves, patch cables, power wiring) and it's happened many times throughout the years that something out of all of these components has failed on me (sometimes during gigs) and it's always such a mess to diagnose and troubleshoot... especially under pressure. I've had a patch cable fail on me again last night during practice took me like 5 minutes to figure out what was wrong and it's been the straw that broke the camel's back and I decided to simplify by using the ME-80 to replace like 10 of those pedals. Thanks for you video it's been super helpful. Hopefully the unit turns out to be reliable 🤞

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  Рік тому

      100% agree man, I haven't gigged in years and never had any major issues running 8-10 pedals live, I always used a Cioks and the DiMarzio braided patch cables though (they are almost indestructible) but if I had a gig now I wouldn't almost certainly use an all-in-one like this or mooer etc

    • @MrRFasters
      @MrRFasters Рік тому +1

      Hi. Im gigging the device since years and you indeed have a) the simplicity and directness of the Pedal type setup and b) the robustness of a metal/alu constructed multi-effect pedal, no wires included. After an ME70 the ME80 now is my trusted companion. Stuff it in en 17"laptop bag, add you cables stuff, a decent 9V power thing and a seperate looper pedal (if you need one). And you're a goodf way to go. Use the pre-amp to beef up shitty venue clean amps and the pedals to model your sound.
      I could do with a ME100, offering a) two driver pedal sections (a driver into a distortion would be ice - now to use the pre-amp for that), b) a seperate looper from the delay pedal, c) a more flexible reverb (multiple tone - delay - level - mod - shimmer knowbs like the BOSS REVERB pedals), d) a better (deeper) chorus and e) of course the newest modelling sound quality. It will be a unit that can run along for another 15 years or so!!!

  • @timbaker1320
    @timbaker1320 2 роки тому +3

    You play very well. I liked listening to this video .

  • @redcomn
    @redcomn 2 роки тому +16

    I was hoping boss would release an update for this with all the tech in gt1000.
    This unit were a godsend for live performer

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  2 роки тому +3

      Much agree!

    • @MrRFasters
      @MrRFasters Рік тому +1

      Agree totally.
      Pls renew.
      It ll sell like hell.

    • @redcomn
      @redcomn Рік тому

      ​@@MrRFastersit came out now, hey, i was right all along lol

    • @MrRFasters
      @MrRFasters Рік тому +1

      @@redcomn Yep. They did. But: they messed up from my perspective. No aux-in port any more for endless play-along fun (must be blue tooth add-on connect @ 50/60€), no sperate reverb block, no seperate looper block (together one more pedal, little bit bigger), same 38 sec loopt time (in 2023? COme on Boss!!). Good stuff: AIRD quality, upgrade in pre amps and driven sounds, Clon option added, De-tune pedal added, improved pedal, and a send/return option.
      Maybe that's where the Boss ME-100 then needs to go. But not only in 10 yrs or so please ... (skip the ME-90 asap, implement it in the ME-100)

  • @chuckywinters6842
    @chuckywinters6842 2 місяці тому

    Great demonstration!!

  • @godisbollocks
    @godisbollocks Рік тому +2

    I'm a keyboard player who needed a multi-effects pedal for a bit of wah, tremolo, and maybe vibrato or ring mod. And master EQ is nice, too. ME-80 does all that and more, and the tones are to my liking. I don't need to bother with drive as my sounds are coming from software on my laptop, so the drive is all contained therein.
    Great pedal and extremely user-friendly.

    • @CesarLopez-bx8sc
      @CesarLopez-bx8sc 8 місяців тому

      Great!! How do you use both the pedalboard and your laptop? Maybe a video out there to learn how to do it? Thanks a lot!!

    • @godisbollocks
      @godisbollocks 8 місяців тому +1

      @CesarLopez-bx8sc I come out of the laptop via a Radial USB DI box, into the ME-80. Works nicely when I need a few different effects.

  • @beerwolf8518
    @beerwolf8518 Рік тому +1

    Just bought one of these for about $180 at my local record store. I have other pedals, but wanted to try a multi effect and the price was right. The ME90 just came out some weeks back and I wanted to see this pedal thats pretty similar. I run it into a Fender Princeton ToneMaster in manual mode and mostly just use some of the effects and boost/EQ stuff. I think its pretty good in that context and works just fine for my needs! Cool pedal.

  • @TheMountainDemon
    @TheMountainDemon 8 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful sounds man. I'm sold. When you land on a tone and really groove it, you can really hear how good you are. And, short answer, no.

  • @BoredRn69
    @BoredRn69 Рік тому

    9:30 Best setting to play aruarian dance on. I mean it just sounds magical

  • @oldskool1977
    @oldskool1977 Рік тому +1

    In 1999 I used my Boss ME 50 for gigs for years and loved how portable and easy to use it was!
    I just bought the ME 80 yesterday and love it, but should have I bought the ME 90 instead?

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  Рік тому +2

      I guess it depends if it’s worth the extra cost. The 90 is better but it’s not night and day

  • @michelvondenhoff9673
    @michelvondenhoff9673 2 роки тому

    The sound is very nice, ergonomics are great. Runs on batteries & headphones! For the price of 2 or 3 quality pedals.

  • @johnbussink6928
    @johnbussink6928 2 роки тому +1

    aalways played on a Digitech RP series. forget about it. The Me 80 is awesome. i've found a setting to start with and with 3 different guitars its realy 3 differents sounds on the same stettings.

  • @VladimirSukunda
    @VladimirSukunda Місяць тому

    Can you use the pitch shift to detune 1/2 step?

  • @Eged282
    @Eged282 Рік тому +1

    I’m a sucker to a budget multi effects, and I had a bunch..bought and sold: Zoom G3, G1Four, AX1000G, AX3000G(what a beauty,)by Korg, all bean L6s, Digitech(255,355, 500 and the older RP100,200 80 and …RP90..what a pain),And they mostly sounded nice! But.. I got to say that for live application, nothing comes close to this. I also love my RP500..yup, it is a close second in terms of ease of use vs sound(the menu/knobs are EASY to navigate)And it has a stereo XLR OUT that I wish the ME80 would have.. but yea, I’m not selling the ME80!

    • @markzuelch7452
      @markzuelch7452 7 місяців тому +1

      After the ME 90 came out the prices on the ME 80 dropped significantly enough to buy another one which I did! Almost 2 for.the price of one!

  • @JohnnyNation
    @JohnnyNation 2 роки тому +3

    It by no means "sucks" but I still prefer the ME-50 for live use. One "glaring" problem with both the 70 and 80 models is that the LED'S are blinding on dimly lit stages against their dark backgrounds/so unless you have every knob memorized- good luck !!!###

    • @ChrisP3000x
      @ChrisP3000x Рік тому

      Might could put a piece of clear tape over them?

    • @brazilianredneck
      @brazilianredneck Рік тому

      Can you tell me why you prefer the ME-50 over the ME-80?
      I'm looking for a unit to replace my dying AX3000G and there's a friend selling a ME-50 that looks like was kept in it's box since yesterday...
      I would be able to get it for very little money.

    • @JohnnyNation
      @JohnnyNation Рік тому +1

      @brazilianredneck Later models gave up way too many of the distortions that were on the ME-50 and the 50 is just more simple to use and see on dark stages/ it was introduced as a multi-effects unit that was like a layout of stomp boxes/ with the later ME units adding more and more "features" and getting away from simplicity/ one may just as well go with a Boss GT unit which is way more advanced as far as options.

    • @brazilianredneck
      @brazilianredneck Рік тому

      @@JohnnyNation
      Thanks for your answer!
      Simple is my middle name and the first one is Hopefully.
      One feature I really like from my old pedal, is the capability of making a preset and saving it with whatever name I find suitable for it.
      Then I place them in some order that makes sense for my repertoire.
      Are those things possible with Boss pedals?

    • @JohnnyNation
      @JohnnyNation Рік тому

      @brazilianredneck Yes/ but you can't give it a name on the ME 50/ just a numbered location/ naming patches is for the GT units and to scroll thru edited presets on the ME 50 requires a separate yet inexpensive up-down switch/ never an issue to me as I never stored presets just used the unit as is

  • @bilalnachabeh
    @bilalnachabeh 3 роки тому +4

    I have boss stompboxes: BD2 SD1 OC3 DD3 and RV6. How is the sound quality of this unit compared to the actual stompboxes?

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  3 роки тому +4

      The individual stomps sound a fair bit better in my opinion!

    • @hardcorekiwi
      @hardcorekiwi Рік тому

      Been playing me80 for 4 years (practicing, live, recordings) and always found pleasure sounds, usability and consistency. Have the boss flanger and chorus stompboxes they sounds much Better though

  • @archkarr18
    @archkarr18 6 місяців тому

    I used to use the ME80..until i got a Kemper .... but i would still use that thing..learned to put a dummy headphone type jack in it and it engaged the cab sim in it and it sounded really good..used the metal setting with delay and harmonizer directly into daw/frfr..and it sounded great for shredding ( sounds like crap without the head phone plugged into it) .. made a not that great youtube vid just improvising on it several years ago..( ARCH KARR)..i think in was intended to plug into front end of amp/cab..( and have cab sim in headphones.) but plugging in chopped off head phone jack into it,let the cab sim come through to daw/ frfr..sounds killer. Dont try that without the plug..you'll hate it like i first did.. i was like..wuuuttt..sounds like crap..lol

  • @حسامصالح-ت9س
    @حسامصالح-ت9س 2 місяці тому

    What is your thoughts on me 25 and 70?

  • @nicolauferreira3448
    @nicolauferreira3448 Рік тому +1

    So this is basically like a Boss Katana inside a pedal, right? Must sound good while using one of the those old school marshall valve amps with 6 to 8 knobs.

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  Рік тому +1

      I'd say the Katana might sound slightly better for the built-in distortion and overdrive but I don't have too much experience with the Katana to be honest. I recently got an even older Boss unit (GX-700) and even that has pretty solid effect sounds, so they've always done a pretty good job with the digital stuff IMO.

    • @nicolauferreira3448
      @nicolauferreira3448 Рік тому

      @@PedalScience I think I understand what you are saying. I have this amp and one thing i notice is that the Katana has more booster options like the Guv-DS, Metal Zone and Metalcore, but the T-Scream and Guv-DS are my favourites, especially if you like 80's metal and hard rock

  • @scrimpmster
    @scrimpmster 2 роки тому

    I'm tempted to get one of these since I found out it has a looper option. I was considering the GT-1000 or Line 6 Helix but the amount of options seem to make them overly complicated for basic usage. Even my Line 6 spider V seems like it has too many options sometimes.

    • @gsalinas1229
      @gsalinas1229 2 роки тому

      Then you should look for an me25 sound perfect for what you want. No deep diving as the me80 and 70 it’s all knobs

  • @markzuelch7452
    @markzuelch7452 7 місяців тому +1

    What does COSM mean?

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  7 місяців тому

      Composite Object Sound Modelling

  • @marcofalancia9553
    @marcofalancia9553 Рік тому

    Great unit. Wish it had a better screen.

  • @samuelmulumbwa7389
    @samuelmulumbwa7389 8 місяців тому

    My boss main output volume knob is not responding. Any idea how I can resolve this?

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  8 місяців тому

      That is odd! The pot may have failed but it's unlikely - maybe try a factory reset of the unit

  • @myaxom2541
    @myaxom2541 8 місяців тому

    how to solve its automatically volum up down problem?

  • @blockchain3241
    @blockchain3241 8 місяців тому

    good vid. nice demo

  • @joshualessore7652
    @joshualessore7652 3 роки тому +13

    - The cab sim sucks
    - the drive sounds suck (except for blues driver and the two fuzzes)
    Literally every other aspect of the board is so much bang for the buck - to this day I still use the octave features in the expression pedal, the delays and mods, the wah etc.
    It sounds amazing but only through a good amp using the drive section to break the tube amp up or stack gain. Never use the onboard COSM amp sims because they do suck balls. The rest is an AMAZING piece of gear

    • @ronpipes1988
      @ronpipes1988 3 роки тому

      This must depend upon the cabinets or monitors that the person is using. I can DI straigth to my scarlett interface to my monitors as well as to my computer and out the monitors, and with the cab and amp sims it sounds great. You do have to ensure that you have a dummy plug in the headphone jack though to activate the cab simulator. I just put a dummy plug in, set the amp sims and I'm off and running. Iron Maiden, Sabbath, Boston, Rush, SRV.....it's all there.
      As for dirt, I find the TS setting to be kick ass. I also use this through my amps and stack a Keeley Tone Workstation in front of it...phenomenal sound.
      The one complaint that I do have is with the modulation. For a dual amp rig running one output to one amp and the other output to your second amp, the chorus and other modulations do not seem to run in stereo. The one exception to this is the Cho+Del setting in the delay section (great for certain Rush songs and great for Boston). That option does run in stereo but you can only adjust the delay portion and not the chorus. I get around this by running one output to a Boss Waza chorus to one amp, and the other output to an EHX Electric Mistress with Flanger and Chorus options to the other and you can adjust the chorus to either amp as needed. You could just split the signal from either of those (or similar stereo effect units) and run to both amps, but there seems to be a noise issue when doing so. You'd think that running the modulations from the ME-80 out both outputs to two amps would do something similar as two similar stand alone pedals, but it just doesn't. It doesn't make sense that it wouldn't, but it doesn't seem to work that way.

    • @crimadellaphone9374
      @crimadellaphone9374 2 роки тому +1

      I personally like the AC sim in COMP. It does make it sound like an Acustic if adjusted good with either EQ

  • @easyguitarlicks2131
    @easyguitarlicks2131 Рік тому

    Get a for example a flamma fs o6 for the overdrive in front it! Then its great..the built ins are very week!

  • @danaowens30
    @danaowens30 Рік тому

    As i too love this pedal too. Over my GT models. Simplify my matters in my ME-80 . Easy to dial in just about any sound on the planet just about. I have tweaked every patch on my me-80 and use it more over my ME-90 yes i have the whole ME series collection including the ME20,25,30,50,70,80 and 90 as well as My GT3,GT5,GT6,GT8,and my GT10 yes i got these all too. Bad ass pedals my Boss. For real! The collection to have.

    • @danaowens30
      @danaowens30 7 місяців тому

      I have a question? Is your guitar a Les Paul? Sounds of the Humbuckers. I love the Les Paul the most of all my guitars i have 9 of them 4 Jacksons , 6 ibanez s,LTD EC50 les paul,2 Fenders 1 of the HSS and my other is SSS,I devinci strat 4Gibsons 5 epiphones.

  • @DG-bb1jz
    @DG-bb1jz 8 місяців тому

    Wait so if I wanted to just play in my room I don’t need an amp for practice? I just plug my guitar into this with my headphones?

  • @junwelvillaruel2531
    @junwelvillaruel2531 8 місяців тому

    Sir may i ask what type of connection you use on its output of boss me-80?is it a Y-TYPE cable?

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  8 місяців тому

      Just 2x regular 1/4" instrument cables, no Y cable required as it has left and right outputs built in

  • @TheTeekayes
    @TheTeekayes Рік тому

    Is it possible to set delays for "momentary" mode where they can be clicked to engage delay and turn off without having to click again to turn off?

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  Рік тому

      I don't think so, could be worth checking the manual though

  • @Faireza78
    @Faireza78 Рік тому

    can we edit the pedal voice, for example we want to change it to o u o u

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  11 місяців тому

      I cannot remember but I think so, it's probably in the manual if so.

  • @D.R.S.666
    @D.R.S.666 2 місяці тому

    Is this connected to fx loop?

  • @kushagranigam4114
    @kushagranigam4114 Рік тому

    which is better me - 80 or zoom g5n? currently i"m using me 25

  • @Herman138
    @Herman138 2 роки тому +1

    Hi,how this sound with studio monitors?

  • @Beingzuuu
    @Beingzuuu 2 роки тому +2

    Is the pre amp affecting the drive sounds?

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  2 роки тому +2

      yes

    • @Beingzuuu
      @Beingzuuu 2 роки тому +3

      I think the sound is a little bit off because you put the pre amp on ac and it was on for like the whole vid

    • @MrFatPallasCat
      @MrFatPallasCat 3 місяці тому

      ​@@BeingzuuuLololololol exactly

  • @lomoholga
    @lomoholga Рік тому

    Very stupid question- I want to use it with headphones. Is it possible to do that and deactivate the preamp function? Never mind you can!

  • @prometherion3089
    @prometherion3089 2 роки тому +1

    Is there a way to bypass the pre amp so I can plug into my amp and just use the effects?

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  2 роки тому

      The 'clean' setting is very neutral, but I think it still alters the tone slightly.

    • @scrimpmster
      @scrimpmster 2 роки тому

      A guy I know has one and he said you can just turn the Pre Amp off. If you looks at the beginning of this video 0:46 - the creator goes to turn on the pre amp section. So I think you should just be able to leave that turned off. However, that is speculation as I don't own one of these boards and have no experience with them myself.

    • @gsalinas1229
      @gsalinas1229 2 роки тому

      When in manual mode or memory edit mode pressing the amp bank turns on and off your preamp

    • @crimadellaphone9374
      @crimadellaphone9374 Рік тому +1

      From what I understand, if you use the 'to amp 1/4 mono out' you can bypass the preamp with it off. I heard in another demo that when you use the record/headphone out jack the preamp is automatically ran through regardless of being on or off. I watched several demos on this before buying it, the absolute best way to buy such things and basically know what you're getting before paying for it and having it shipped to your house. But, someone in this comment section also mentioned volume as a very important factor, stating that the preamp section is actually pretty good but your "master volume" needs to be 75% or above to experience that. This I imagine is true, they had a more detailed comment saying why that is, it's something like because that master volume is not a boost in anyway, thus having it turned down causes a loss in higher frequencies similar to running through too long of a cable, those highs that while you can't really tell there is a reduction in highs you can tell that tone is choked off. I imagine this is correct too, because my experience has been, sometimes I can get it to sound great, even the distortion options, like all of them not just the blues. While other times the distortions sound real choppy, like shit. I run through a second multi effects unit(call me crazy for options, the BOSS EBand JS-8, THOUGH it only sounds right going from the ME-80 to the JS-8, likely because of that amp out option on the ME-80. Then mine also runs to a audio interface, a pretty good one, with it's own preamp though I've found it needs to be set at about 3/8(75% to half volume) volume or hum is introduced.
      I would advise caution running to an amp with a setup like mine, I blew the fuse by my amp getting so hot it shut off, likely an impedance issue(which is something I did even know existed at the time). Maybe it was because the amp was made in 1980? I've read that impedance matching mattered way more in the past, while newer models of equipment basically copy the signal rather than using the signal sent to the amp to avoid the customer headaches of the past with everything requiring people to know what impedance was and how to appropriately match things with the correct input and output impedance else devices burn out/get fried from things ahead of it, like even a speaker, trying to draw a power level that the device before it can't supply which causes the device to fry itself trying to give power to the device with a low input impedance. (Read up on impedance, I can't ever remember the correct way it's supposed to go, nor where you would find the output or input impedance on an device. From memory, it's something like say on your passive guitar electronics, it has a significantly high impedance thus a guitar amp needs an impedance that's even higher, 10 fold(x10 higher). And that you never want a device with a high impedance output feeding into a device with a low impedance input. They also have devices to correct these issues called buffers.
      I'm diving into the beautiful world of creating my own effects circuits, the way to achieve your own unique tone(s). You gotta do this the right way though, so I have a free downloaded book I'm reading to be able to work out the math for the circuits and components.

    • @crimadellaphone9374
      @crimadellaphone9374 Рік тому

      @@PedalScience I'm now disappointed in my buy. I wonder what year this model was produced because I have the pretty damn old Boss Eband JS-8 (and I heard a lot of people giving major props to the JS-10. You just hearted my comment giving me a link back here so if you're looking for something that offers better quality sounds that super cheap by now, you should get this. I haven't looked the price up and I'll go ahead and inform you that it's built in audio interface is very outdated, requiring you to need (to the best of my recollection) windows 7 or it might work for windows 8, definitely no later versions, Boss decided to completely screw over all of the people that purchased this by not providing simple updates for any further windows compatibility BUT that's not the reason I'm recommending it. If you can get you a used unit, it was only $400 like, IDK how long ago, definitely over 10 years, that's why it's so incredibly mind blowing that the ME-80 I image came out way after the Eband yet they put effects in it that don't even compare to my ancient 1 in all. Now, there are some draw backs also, I'm glad I just thought about them so definitely don't just go try to buy one, see if it's something you can use because it does not have foot switches, on the unit anyway, you can buy a foot switch that was made specifically for this unit, I would imagine the JS-10 came with the same options, but this unit is designed more for playing in your home, definitely not something you would use in a live performance unless you can alter it, which is doable, any electronics can be altered. It's just the processor is significantly superior to the ME-80. It's all digital display but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work this thing, it was super easy in that department. It does have one button on the unit for switching to one different preset(whether custom or not) and an EQ(DIGITAL) that allows an insane level of control over it, lots of great Amp emulators, it's distortion is freaking mind blowing compared to the ME-80, EITHER that or I just suck at tuning in good sounds, the distortion control s on the ME-80 sound weird as sh!t too me unless I use the Amp emulators, but, IMO it still has nothing on my Eband. I only play music for me, not a social person at all, never been 8n a band, such bad ADHD that I've never even learned a song. I'm not a shit player though, I've been making a lot of progress these last 3 years due to having to get on disability thus not having to deal with the tremendous amount of stress from being around peopl(High Functioning Aut!sm) that killed all of my hobbies for 10 years. So, I just play for myself and will be making my own songs via daw, Midi keyboard and my guitar. I have a Focusrite Audio interface, I knew so little about them(didn't even learn that my JS-8 HAD an audio interface but the ancient PC I had had a better integrated sound card than anything than any modern ones, which is also pretty crazy considering when my PC was manufactured windows 8 was brand new and I didn't require an audio interface and had zero noticeable audio delay, I simply ran audio out from the unit straight into the mic input and was able to play and record in my DAW without any issues at all other than I had Cakewalk prior to it becoming free, and now 8 have the free one with all of the features, about $1800 worth of virtual instruments that I bought recently (within last 3 years) from Eastwest, got them all at 50% off thus only paid 900. Not incredibly thrilled with them after using the free Ampletube Guitar, there are a lot of great instruments in my collection that sound really good it's mostly the features that are lacking, like all of the chords and rhythm options. But in all honesty, I got bulk instruments so I have good quality instruments for anything I could ever need including things I would never use but to have such options I would be paying out the a$$ in single instruments, plus the ones I have have plenty of good options for tweaking the sounds and great options for distortion guitars through my favorite music period(or instruments in general) from the late 60's early 70's, it the Beetles instrument package, Phantom 4 or something like that. Anyway, the Epand has really good options and sounds, who knows how cheap you could get one used, possibly as low as $50. But still, circuitry is a great option, the math is just beyond my abilities but I grabbed some really good circuit simulators so it will work the math out for me to make sure I don't burn my components up. Haven't created anything yet but I'm getting there, I got a mini-strat, that isn't made with plywood(the newest Squire Mini guitars are nice, meaning the body and fretboard. You have to have skinny figures though, I'm luck in that department, you sure can make some stretches super easy. I replaced all hardware, if you aren't prepared to do that then it isn't anything special. I got the perfect bridge for it, that's a must also. I am going to make custom pickups with a bar pole rather than tiny poles, that's a drawback to the Mini, the F'ing poles on the PUPs, standard strat PUP size, but the poles are so far off it's ridiculous. That allowed me to settle the debate on whether lining strings up with the poles matter, of course it does but it does matter less as the string gauge increases. Strings 1 through 3 are the most important but the bridge I got has rollers for the , saddles, which are fixed straight rather than because able to move around and get string spacing all out of whack, constantly. The bridge I got allowed you to set your string spacing pretty customized, which allowed me to spread the string out further which is even needed for me, got to have some real finger precision on those upper frets, one mm off is your finger touching another string accidentally. I still love it though and I'm getting there, just takes work. I've learned a ton of music theory also, all in the last 2 years, discovered a lot of things that aren't so clear until you know a lot of theory. I can say now that the most important things to learn in theory are of course Theo obvious things like scales keys with an understanding of borrowed chords, never get trapped in trying to literally stick to a key scale, you have far more abilities for interesting sounds by borrowing chords from the parallel modes of what ever your home root note will be, if you stick to one. And one of the most important things is slash chords, not playing chords with the root always as the bass note, you have so many more musical options by creating melodies with the bass note as well as having multiple overlapping melodies by focusing more on that versus trying to plan your chords for the root being the base note, plus it of course gives you the option for being able to play that chord progression with tons of different voicing all over the fret board just on a single chord basis.

  • @teacher5376
    @teacher5376 3 роки тому +3

    Overdrive 's ! Distortion 's ! And wah '...and delays...and ???? One by one ....done.

  • @Oyashiro89
    @Oyashiro89 Рік тому

    If i buy this, is there anymore need for Boss RV-6 Reverb pedal?

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  Рік тому +1

      The RV-6 sounds a bit better in my opinion so it's up to you if it's worth keeping! The ME-80 reverbs are sufficient of course

  • @jackmerry632
    @jackmerry632 2 роки тому

    Can I record onto my laptop through this? My RP500 gave up the ghost after 12 years and need something to replace

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  2 роки тому

      Yes you can indeed - see page 17 of the manual static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/ME-80_egfispd03_W.pdf

  • @dearhunter666
    @dearhunter666 3 роки тому +1

    Would you please tell me your setup? What guitar? What amplifier you’re playing through?

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for your comment. I am using my Harley Benton SC-550 II and recording directly into my audio interface (RME Fireface UCX)

    • @dearhunter666
      @dearhunter666 3 роки тому

      @@PedalScience Thank you 🙏🏻 !
      But is there any way to make this multi effect sounds better through an amp (I’m using boss Katana 50), it sounds so digital .. any suggestions ?

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  3 роки тому +1

      I would make sure you're not using the ME-80 amp / cab simulation and just use it in the Katana FX loop for mod / pitch / reverb / delay effects. (Note in 0:30 of this video that cab sim is engaged on the main outs if anything is plugged into the phones out, so check you have nothing plugged in there as well)

    • @dearhunter666
      @dearhunter666 3 роки тому

      @@PedalScience Thank you very much !

    • @ceelothatmane9421
      @ceelothatmane9421 2 роки тому

      @@PedalScience so are you suggesting I don’t use a multi pedal like this since I have the katana? The katana fx are better? I have the katana 212

  • @starboy3741
    @starboy3741 Рік тому

    Can you get good distortions out of this cause I’m looking to get a certain distortion sound with compression and chorus but idk if the distortion will sound good

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  Рік тому

      Pretty good in my opinion, although you can always pair it with an analog distortion pedal if you weren't happy with the built in distortion sounds of the ME-80

    • @MrRFasters
      @MrRFasters Рік тому

      It won't replace your top amp setup, but it will save the day. And you won't sound shit. If you invest the time in setting up the Overdrive (SD-1) / T-Scream / Blues (BD-2) / Distortion (DS-1) pedals you will be able to get very very decent sounds out of the, I'm a Gary Moore / SAnatana / Jpoe Bonamassa sound type guy and I'm getting there with a few knob rotations and I don't need to rund through a kazillion of menu-options or patches.Simply htting some pedals and tweaking some knowbs.
      Im not a heavy distortin or fuzz guy, but since there are 3 DS and 3 fuzz options there there should be one in there to your liking.

    • @starboy3741
      @starboy3741 Рік тому

      @@MrRFasters oh so basically I just will need to eq and mess around with things and I’ll be good

    • @MrRFasters
      @MrRFasters Рік тому +2

      @@starboy3741 Hi.
      I didn t even get around to that. The EQ section on the pre amp acts as your pre amp eq, just as on your amp.
      Then there is the EQ section on the FX2 pedal, which sits after the pre amp but vefore the power amp outs. Doing so it acts as a very flexible Mesa type 3-intstead-of-5 EQ, so you can dial in any V shape or mid boost profile you would want.
      This pedal: it takes some understanding. But any pedalboard with the same series of pedals would also require testing, tweaking, testing, tweaking and a lot of patience.
      Invest the time, work ina structured way and you ll be awarded.
      . First dial in a decent clean amp tone on your amp.
      . Setup base reverb.
      . Add boost or compressor to taste and need.
      . Test you clean base.
      . Add Delay or Echo to taste.
      . Maybe add a little vibe from Chorus, UniVibe, Rotary, Phaser, Flanger, Vibrator or Tremolo.
      . From PRE-AMP add you Crunch grit from the Tweed, Brit, Crunch or Drive.
      . From OS/DS add drive to you clean OR
      . From OS/DS add distortion to your crunch.
      . When neede correct with EQ from FX1.
      You will get there and O do not believe your sound won t be in there. Can t go wrong if you re patient.
      Jeez. I guess they should pay me ...
      Which - sadly - they don t ... 🤣🤣🤣

    • @starboy3741
      @starboy3741 Рік тому

      @@MrRFasters oh okay thank you I appreciate it most reviews I see say it’s crap but then they never try to understand it or tweak it so this was very helpful

  • @jeanphilippelandry9381
    @jeanphilippelandry9381 3 роки тому +4

    i play guitar since 95. i took drum lesson 5 years ago. i played drum in a band with friend from 95-98. the guitarist, my old friend jcm800 and mesa head. 2x jcm800 cabs and 2x 2x12 mesa and marshall. charvel no6. other charvel. gibson explorer. gibson les paul. lot of real pedals. me as a guitarist have me80. me playing with my band vs him playing with our band, i cant hear difference from real stuff to me80. me80 is awesome. in my band we play songs like cold cold cold, cage the elwphant. my singer said that is exactly the sound from prerecorded sound on me80. on my channel i covered fake plastic trees with my me80.

  • @heY-iTs-nAtHan-0.0
    @heY-iTs-nAtHan-0.0 3 роки тому

    It gets the job down for now so so I don't mind as of now

  • @robertbowles780
    @robertbowles780 Рік тому

    How well doe it work direct to PA?

    • @MrRFasters
      @MrRFasters Рік тому +1

      Hi. It can be used effectively directly in any band / jam / rehearsal setting. Use the pre-amp to be your basic amp sound and colourize with the COMP and the OD/DS pedals. Do NOT forget to plug in a (cut-off) cable or pin into the headphones out - so the machine will engage the amp speaker emulation: it realy, relyl improves your sound a lot. Ive used this setup as my back-up, whenever the jam / venue amp left me hanging out there. Using the stereo output, you'll have the extra fun of the stereo effects, like the modulations. It'll work. It won't replace your top amp setup, but it will save the day. And you won't sound shit. If you invest the time in setting up the Overdrive (SD-1) / T-Scream / Blues (BD-2) / Distortion (DS-1) pedals you will be able to get very very decent sounds out of the, I'm a Gary Moore / SAnatana / Jpoe Bonamassa sound type guy and I'm getting there with a few knob rotations and I don't need to rund through a kazillion of menu-options or patches.Simply htting some pedals and tweaking some knowbs. Great aspest is for this pedal is the noon setting on all pedals for all knowbs give you a fair starting poit 90% of the time. Only the Chorus needs an extra push and the Reverb takes some tweaking. HAll being the best, Spring being less and Room doesn't help me. I ususally use bot the pedals and the amps reverb: the amp for the basis reverb the venue needs, the pedals knob for the extra effect each song needs. Throw it into an old 17" laptop bag and you have a cheap and safe travel option, allowing for the 9V power adapter, you guitar and amp cable and the small guitar stuff. Guitar case/bag and pedal bag and you're mobile & good to go. Can be done on public transportation and - I guess - could even be done on a plane.

  • @elhatarolodohod2040
    @elhatarolodohod2040 8 місяців тому

    Whatever overdrive or distortion I do, they sound plastic. 😒

  • @CrockettsCabin
    @CrockettsCabin 4 дні тому

    I am old, slow, and crabby. So bear with me.
    I have ZERO interested in the whole cab sim thing. If nothing is in the headphone jack, no pre-amp nonsense, yes?
    Well done overview of the unit, sir.

  • @persiaguitar
    @persiaguitar Рік тому

    I want to add a distortion pedal to it but no way :(

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  Рік тому

      You can put distortion in front of it no problem

    • @persiaguitar
      @persiaguitar Рік тому

      @@PedalScience thanks I am a beginner can you recommend a distortion pedal? sorry for such a basic question :)

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  Рік тому +1

      @@persiaguitar I am a big fan of the AMT S2, or a big muff can be lots of fun if you want something a bit meaner / fuzzier.

  • @accentontheoff
    @accentontheoff 3 роки тому +2

    So it doesn’t suck right.

  • @joeking433
    @joeking433 2 роки тому

    Does this do alternate tunings and 12 string guitars?

  • @timbaker1320
    @timbaker1320 2 роки тому +1

    It sucks. That is why I bought it. It's sounds better than me.

  • @ARK_Channel_26
    @ARK_Channel_26 Рік тому

    You are choosing the right amp section, always use the AC preamps to bring up your natural guitar character and don't forget to use a real amp for live gig's you be able to have the best sounds on stage 👍🏻 keep playing and stop arguing you on the right path 😜

  • @StratsRUs
    @StratsRUs Рік тому

    I have a Helix.
    But gave the ME80 to a friend.
    The ME80 is still fantastic, it's all in placing the right effects.The preamp is fine.Tweak.
    I kept my ME70 !

  • @msaradio7455
    @msaradio7455 9 місяців тому +1

    This guy has something against all in one's or boss in general. Everything sucks to him. This is horrible, that's not good enough, this doesn't work right. Lol. It's a great pedal and if you play something other than distorted trash it really does work great.

  • @teacher5376
    @teacher5376 3 роки тому

    And compress pedals...done ....so many more , to buys ! But,....not me 50 .not me 80....

  • @jeffoberg772
    @jeffoberg772 7 місяців тому

    I want to tell you how much I appreciate being proven wrong. I used to think Boss products were idiot proof. Thanks to you I can let go of that false assumption.
    Have you ever heard of EQ?

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  7 місяців тому

      No, please tell me more about this 'EQ' phenomenon

  • @MrFatPallasCat
    @MrFatPallasCat 3 місяці тому

    The dummy plug trick gives beginners and boomers the impression that it sounds better with it in, opens up the sound . However, doesn't make sense does it?. Using this into an amp with a speaker. But also using cab emulation. Boss engineers missed that huh?. In reality it sucks out any real tone when done so.
    Don't use dummy plug trick, instead learn how to dial in eq.

  • @matiasgarcia2378
    @matiasgarcia2378 Рік тому

    Trying to make this thing sound bad....nop😂

  • @motoheads1268
    @motoheads1268 2 роки тому

    Distortion is not good. Worse infact. Everything else is great

  • @milankotevski1663
    @milankotevski1663 3 місяці тому

    Yikes, is all I can say about this box.

  • @as-zm8pt
    @as-zm8pt 5 місяців тому

    Boss, Bosch, Bose, Hugo Boss

  • @jamiecarter5083
    @jamiecarter5083 Рік тому

    I had one. Good effects, but, there's no volume. I prefer the ME 50.

  • @MrDabrowski
    @MrDabrowski 11 місяців тому

    yes, it sucks! And Primus too!

  • @tyronebunne2220
    @tyronebunne2220 7 місяців тому

    I hate this pedal as much as the rest but please turn up the treble on your banjo - it seems as though you are deliberately making this unit sound dull.
    And is dad rock?
    This unit suffers from brightness that can be eq'd at your end (the guitar you fail to show us) and the units end also

  • @onewiththings
    @onewiththings 3 роки тому

    These things just don't hold up well over time.

    • @ronpipes1988
      @ronpipes1988 3 роки тому +7

      I don't know.....i've had mine for 2 1/2 years, played the heck out of it and it's still working just as it did when I first took it out of the box.

    • @onewiththings
      @onewiththings 3 роки тому +1

      @@ronpipes1988 Sorry, a lot of the effects sounded pretty cool, I just might use other drive pedals. I have the MS-3, similar to the GT-1 engine, and the drives in it sound great to me, but I still use my analog pedals for the feel and the digital sounds have a bit more treble that I can't seem to tame enough. Maybe I should use the master eq. Anyway, if you are enjoying it, that's all that matters. I could definitely gig with the ME-80 and my amp.

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  3 роки тому +5

      @@onewiththings I think Ron thought you were talking about physical reliability (which I'm sure we all agree is very good with these), when in fact you were particularly referring to the dirt tones that do indeed sound like every MFX unit since the 90s! It's mainly the fault of the built in cab sim though, that I used for the whole video just so the demonstration would be realistic (I don't like to sugarcoat pedals).
      They do sound better through a good cab sim or real amp, but still way off from things like Line 6 Helix / Axe FX etc. I can't stand the continuous encoders and menu diving associated with even the simply multi-FX units (such as HX Effects), so for me the ME-80 is a godsend - real pots (with a start and end point) and zero menus, and the thing costs about as much as any standalone delay / reverb pedal!

    • @ericskinner7355
      @ericskinner7355 Рік тому

      Had a issue with the power supply, but the unit itself no problems whatsoever for about 9 years now. It's solid!🙂✌️

    • @onewiththings
      @onewiththings Рік тому

      I meant that the sounds don't hold up over time.

  • @jerryfurr8116
    @jerryfurr8116 Рік тому

    Sounds like all this unit is good for is hard Rock not much Country music in this effects unit !!!! LoL

  • @markvigil8667
    @markvigil8667 8 місяців тому

    irritating!

  • @NiceterCoolster
    @NiceterCoolster 2 місяці тому

    What kind of stupid attention seeking clickbait title.::does it suck 😅

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  Місяць тому

      Fair question IMO - some older digital stuff does suck a bit, this unit certainly doesn't!

  • @Deathcorp666
    @Deathcorp666 3 роки тому +1

    The guy never tried to get one heavy metal sound whatsoever. If you like Metallica Death Metal and heavy metal.. this guy didn’t show you any of those sounds find a better video

    • @crimadellaphone9374
      @crimadellaphone9374 2 роки тому +1

      Well, thank God because I don't really care for metal, I like more alive sounds than just deep distortion and mostly clean cleans.

    • @necrofeiti9442
      @necrofeiti9442 Рік тому

      Just bought one two days ago, can't wait to return it so it does

    • @crimadellaphone9374
      @crimadellaphone9374 Рік тому +2

      @@necrofeiti9442 that may be a problem with you not knowing how to use it correctly. But also, these things tie in with personal taste, if I were you I would start researching things and watching demos on them before actually buying them unless you just like playing tag with distributors by constantly buying and returning products via mail. Otherwise you may as well just tell a distributor how much you can spend, what general type of product you want and tell them to just send anything that will fall into those specifications and Bill you for it, and to go ahead and send a return package incase you don't like it.

  • @oldandeerie
    @oldandeerie Рік тому

    i kinda hate to say this, in my opinion i owned one, and it SUCKS lol compared to just buying couple effect pedals that you need or want,, the difference is night or day, this thing sounds dark and dank and dead.

    • @oldandeerie
      @oldandeerie Рік тому +1

      i actually moved out of my old house and just left it on the floor in there, now it's someone else's burden lol

    • @PedalScience
      @PedalScience  Рік тому

      Fair enough 😂😂

  • @idealgarage6895
    @idealgarage6895 3 місяці тому

    This is a terrible review..using the unit the way he did is like using it in reverse polarity

  • @davidweatherly4919
    @davidweatherly4919 Рік тому

    Useless knob turning with no point.